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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by blackjack21(m): 11:31am On Jun 21, 2016
Unfathomable:



Hey, Mr 21...don't talk smack with me, im no mate of yours. Make your point and move on, stop running round the thread like a headless chicken forcing your ideas on people.. what's that 'horse poo' rubbish talk about? Trust me, I've been on this thread long before you crawled out from wherever. Be civil

SORRY! was just trying to sound like a GOT character didn't meant to annoy.

but with your assertion that Jon escaped castle black, to go and avenge Ned Stark's death.
Everybody here will agree with me that you don't know what you're watching.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by djlaqua91(m): 11:36am On Jun 21, 2016
ilynem:

PGA calm down. No one in the entire show has suffered like Sansa. She can't trust anyone anymore, not even her brother. Hence keeping her plans from him.

She almost killed him. Her advice was as obvious and stupid as Melisandre saying,"don't lose". She complained that she didn't have a voice, when she was included in every battle room session, everytime they visited Northern Houses she followed. Yet she kept her input about LF to herself. Reminds me of Rob Stark and his mother. Rob lost the war because of Love but Catelyn Stark seriously undermined his authority by backstabbing him, which eventually led Rob to behead Lord Karstark. Sansa has killed Jon Snow. Its just a matter of time.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by djlaqua91(m): 12:01pm On Jun 21, 2016
Lengz:
..... From point of view,, Sansa was d brain and Jon was just d Brut with no force.. She indirectly told him " dont do anything he expects,, cos evrytin would be a trap".. which she was right. He outwitted Jon in evry step

Her advice was daft and obvious. Same thing Ser Davos or Tormund would have said. Sansa wasn't a brain. She was careless. I know its just a show but imagine a scenario where your family home is over-run by boko haram. You gather men to fight them but are very few in no. And time is of the essence. Then your sister who had suffered in the Boko haram knew of a dubious family friend who had a large army capable of getting your ancestral home back and she kept shut throughout! Haba mana! Whether you ask the man for help its a different case, at least present an option on the table. That's where she messed up. As for Jon we all knew he wasn't as hard as the Blackfish. He had to at least try to save Rickon (one of the main reasons Sansa persuaded him into the war initially)
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by kenturkish(m): 12:04pm On Jun 21, 2016
Robb stark beheaded Lord karstack not umber, If Jon Snow had the knights of the vale it would have been an even fight or perhaps an easier fight for Jons army because Ramsay had like 6thousand soldiers some on foot and some horse back. Knights of the vale have 5 thousand on horse back. Plus the wildlings and a few hundred north men. If ramsay dose not retreat to winterfell which wouldn't really help cos wun wun would smash the door, his entire soldiers will be cut to pieces. 5 thousand men on horse back will smash through an army of 50 thousand on foot.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 12:15pm On Jun 21, 2016
BraniacX:


The dragons are still young, they can be killed and in westeros, men knew how to wage wars against dragons, I hope they haven't forgotten! Though it seems they have forgotten outside westeros so the seven kingdoms rolling over for danny undecided not gonna happen

Na you wan kill the dragons abi?
Which men? Even if there are any, they are long dead and buried. Why didn't they kill Aegon's dragons when he first attacked.
3 dragons, the full dothraki herd, the second sons, and the unsullied. Tell me who could stop that force. From every corner you are attacked and you still want to kill dragons? Every kingdom she attacks will quickly bend the knee when they see the dragons, just like Brandon did. There is presently nobody that can stop Dany.

P.S the dragons have still not attained full maturity
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by viruz007(m): 12:17pm On Jun 21, 2016
Y'all hating on Sansa, please chill...

Truth be told, there was nothing Jon or Sansa could have done to save Rickon and she did well to not mention the Knights of the Vale. Truth is Jon should have been a little patient.

My best moments where the first 10 minutes of the episode. Danerys and her dragons? Squad goals!!! Dracarys cool

Then Greyworm 2 for 1 move grin grin grin

Lady Mormont's stare kiss kiss kiss

Great episode... Deserves the 10/10 it got on IMDB

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 12:21pm On Jun 21, 2016
Gbola5:
Daenerys doesn't have enemies in Westeros. No one in Westeros could be less bothered about a Dragon Queen half a world away.

They are not bothered because they haven't seen a dragon...talk more 3. When they all hear the story of Mereen, they'll know the Dragon queen means business. Then they'll be bothered

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 12:30pm On Jun 21, 2016
sagenrdy:
trust me myself n lady mormont. Will do a better job conquering d. 7 kingdoms dan dis two. Sansa is still weak minded despite d strong face she is showing now @ snow war room she could not offer any solution dan to condemn d plans of experienced fighters. N little finger he strive on information about enemy dat does not know about his ambitions let him him show his real intent like euron,dany nko n let see how good he his

Really? Lady mormont would conquer the seven kingdoms? Really? Please let's be real.
Sansa not telling Jon about Little finger and the knights of the Vale won the battle for them. If she had told him about the her plan, he would have waited, Ramsey would have known about them having a larger army, and he would have prepared differently. His plan was actually perfect even though he killed his own men to make the 'dead' wall (that's what you expect from a psychopath). Even though she should have trusted Jon, her plan actually worked

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 12:38pm On Jun 21, 2016
waywardpikin:
Concerning Euron Greyjoy, in the books he is said to have what we call a Dragon Horn. A Dragon Horn is an instrument that can be used to control dragons, unfortunately no mention of it has been made in the show. I hope they are saving it for a shocking surprise cos I really want Daenerys Stomborn to get her comeuppance. I see her becoming another big bad in this show. Another Mad King. Like dear daddy.

A lot of us are gonna miss Ramsay Bolton though, this dude was there for us when vile King Joffrey was killed off, poisoned like the rodent that he was. He cushioned the effect of the loss and filled the vacuum such that we barely had the time to miss the product of incest and spawn of the devil that was Joffrey. In short sef....................... angry angryangry

ODE TO RAMSAY BOLTON

You showed us that there was a worse way to be bad, a badder way to be evil, and a veteran where Joffrey was a learner in the field of sadism. You were the human personification of everything Game Of Thrones stands for: cold, vile, vicious, heartless, brutal, calculating, medieval, and evil. You were the devil made flesh.

Goodbye Ramsay Bolton, we will miss you. May you rot in hell. cry cry cry

Signed,
Wayward Pikin.

Why do you think she's becoming more of her father when that's the exact thing she doesn't want to be. She has advisers that turn her off that path, and the most important thing is she listens to them. She has made mistakes, no ruler hasn't, but she's always the first to admit it when her decisions go south.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by obstead200(m): 12:40pm On Jun 21, 2016
Endy10:


Na you wan kill the dragons abi?
Which men? Even if there are any, they are long dead and buried. Why didn't they kill Aegon's dragons when he first attacked.
3 dragons, the full dothraki herd, the second sons, and the unsullied. Tell me who could stop that force. From every corner you are attacked and you still want to kill dragons? Every kingdom she attacks will quickly bend the knee when they see the dragons, just like Brandon did. There is presently nobody that can stop Dany.

P.S the dragons have still not attained full maturity
the Mother of dragons is now UNBEATABLE. Anybody disputing this fact is better off watching Tom and jerry. She has:-

- the finest soldiers ever made (The unsullied)

- the men loyal to her and ready to do the dirty job (The second sons)

- A very cunning political Strategist (Tyrion Lannister and The eunuch varys)

The vast numbers of swift and agile horsemen (the ENTIRE dothraki horde) Remember that Khal Drogo alone has 100,000 men in his khalasar. and all dothraki are on horse back.

- a vast Navy (The iron fleet of yara and Theon greyjoy and the seized ships from the defeated masters of astapor and Yunkai)

It will require the whitewalkers, the Red God, The Seven and all other supernatural forces working together to bring down such a sheer military might

Oh...........and I forgot to add

3 powerful dragons!!

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by obstead200(m): 12:47pm On Jun 21, 2016
viruz007:
Y'all hating on Sansa, please chill...

Truth be told, there was nothing Jon or Sansa could have done to save Rickon and she did well to not mention the Knights of the Vale. Truth is Jon should have been a little patient.

My best moments where the first 10 minutes of the episode. Danerys and her dragons? Squad goals!!! Dracarys cool

Then Greyworm 2 for 1 move grin grin grin

Lady Mormont's stare kiss kiss kiss

Great episode... Deserves the 10/10 it got on IMDB
Chai U don kill me.
Just reading ur post reminds me again of that first 10 minutes. The type of feeling I got watching this episode, even s.ex cannot give me that satisfaction grin cheesy

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by waywardpikin: 12:55pm On Jun 21, 2016
obstead200:

the Mother of dragons is now UNBEATABLE. Anybody disputing this fact is better off watching Tom and jerry. She has:-

- the finest soldiers ever made (The unsullied)

- the men loyal to her and ready to do the dirty job (The second sons)

- A very cunning political Strategist (Tyrion Lannister and The eunuch varys)

The vast numbers of swift and agile horsemen (the ENTIRE dothraki horde) Remember that Khal Drogo alone has 100,000 men in his khalasar. and all dothraki are on horse back.

- a vast Navy (The iron fleet of yara and Theon greyjoy and the seized ships from the defeated masters of astapor and Yunkai)

It will require the whitewalkers, the Red God, The Seven and all other supernatural forces working together to bring down such a sheer military might

Oh...........and I forgot to add

3 powerful dragons!!


And you want to tell me that she is not a potential Big Bad?

I laugh!
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by waywardpikin: 12:56pm On Jun 21, 2016
Endy10:


Why do you think she's becoming more of her father when that's the exact thing she doesn't want to be. She has advisers that turn her off that path, and the most important thing is she listens to them. She has made mistakes, no ruler hasn't, but she's always the first to admit it when her decisions go south.

You're right but power (not necessarily absolute power even) corrupts. More importantly, power corrodes. Just the way an iron begins to rust, the greater she becomes she will begin to listen less and less to her advisors. Like father like daughter.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by lebete3000: 1:00pm On Jun 21, 2016
Gbola5:



Ramsey is not a fighter nor is he skilled. He wields his sword like a butchers cleaver.

Did you see him fight when Yarra wanted to deliver Theon from Ramsey's dungeon cage? He fought wonderfully well there...he's a good but not a great fighter.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by lebete3000: 1:18pm On Jun 21, 2016
waywardpikin:
Concerning Euron Greyjoy, in the books he is said to have what we call a Dragon Horn. A Dragon Horn is an instrument that can be used to control dragons, unfortunately no mention of it has been made in the show. I hope they are saving it for a shocking surprise cos I really want Daenerys Stomborn to get her comeuppance. I see her becoming another big bad in this show. Another Mad King. Like dear daddy.

A lot of us are gonna miss Ramsay Bolton though, this dude was there for us when vile King Joffrey was killed off, poisoned like the rodent that he was. He cushioned the effect of the loss and filled the vacuum such that we barely had the time to miss the product of incest and spawn of the devil that was Joffrey. In short sef....................... angry angryangry

ODE TO RAMSAY BOLTON

You showed us that there was a worse way to be bad, a badder way to be evil, and a veteran where Joffrey was a learner in the field of sadism. You were the human personification of everything Game Of Thrones stands for: cold, vile, vicious, heartless, brutal, calculating, medieval, and evil. You were the devil made flesh.

Goodbye Ramsay Bolton, we will miss you. May you rot in hell. cry cry cry

Signed,
Wayward Pikin.

The way people be cursing Ramsay Bolton...they might just gouge his eyes out if they see the Actor in real life...Nigerian mentality.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by lebete3000: 1:23pm On Jun 21, 2016
Endy10:


Na you wan kill the dragons abi?
Which men? Even if there are any, they are long dead and buried. Why didn't they kill Aegon's dragons when he first attacked.
3 dragons, the full dothraki herd, the second sons, and the unsullied. Tell me who could stop that force. From every corner you are attacked and you still want to kill dragons? Every kingdom she attacks will quickly bend the knee when they see the dragons, just like Brandon did. There is presently nobody that can stop Dany.

P.S the dragons have still not attained full maturity

You mean sey dem still never big finish? Na wa oh!
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by sagenrdy(m): 1:24pm On Jun 21, 2016
Endy10:


Really? Lady mormont would conquer the seven kingdoms? Really? Please let's be real.
Sansa not telling Jon about Little finger and the knights of the Vale won the battle for them. If she had told him about the her plan, he would have waited, Ramsey would have known about them having a larger army, and he would have prepared differently. His plan was actually perfect even though he killed his own men to make the 'dead' wall (that's what you expect from a psychopath). Even though she should have trusted Jon, her plan actually worked
dat me been sarcastic of cause she cannot I made refrence to myself n lady mormont as we can deduce i have no fighter nlady lady mormont have 62 angry
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by waywardpikin: 1:25pm On Jun 21, 2016
lebete3000:


The way people be cursing Ramsay Bolton...they might just gouge his eyes out if they see the Actor in real life...Nigerian mentality.

Oga better relax.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by oyetpel(m): 1:26pm On Jun 21, 2016
djlaqua91:


She almost killed him. Her advice was as obvious and stupid as Melisandre saying,"don't lose". She complained that she didn't have a voice, when she was included in every battle room session, everytime they visited Northern Houses she followed. Yet she kept her input about LF to herself. Reminds me of Rob Stark and his mother. Rob lost the war because of Love but Catelyn Stark seriously undermined his authority by backstabbing him, which eventually led Rob to behead Lord Umber. Sansa has killed Jon Snow. Its just a matter of time.
Not Lord Umber, it was Lord Karstark he beheaded. Lord Umber was the one that Rob's direwolf chop off his fingers
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by sagenrdy(m): 1:35pm On Jun 21, 2016
Lengz:
..... From point of view,, Sansa was d brain and Jon was just d Brut with no force.. She indirectly told him " dont do anything he expects,, cos evrytin would be a trap".. which she was right. He outwitted Jon in evry step
sansa d brain will u want someone like dat to b ur adviser. All she did was say no to everything dey were planning. If she had told jon about. The little finger forces coming they could have planned their. Battle strategy around that force but I guessed she wants to b d hero dat saves the day dat is d only logical reason I have to justify r behaviour during d battle. Jon cannot trust R

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 1:37pm On Jun 21, 2016
Endy10:


Na you wan kill the dragons abi?
Which men? Even if there are any, they are long dead and buried. Why didn't they kill Aegon's dragons when he first attacked.
3 dragons, the full dothraki herd, the second sons, and the unsullied. Tell me who could stop that force. From every corner you are attacked and you still want to kill dragons? Every kingdom she attacks will quickly bend the knee when they see the dragons, just like Brandon did. There is presently nobody that can stop Dany.

P.S the dragons have still not attained full maturity


It was the Maesters of the Citadel that killed the remaining dragons in the Dragon's Pit, during the Dance of the Dragons. Yes the Maesters were responsible for dragons going extinct, not warriors. Also, dragons never stop growing until they die. No such thing as full maturity.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by lebete3000: 1:38pm On Jun 21, 2016
obstead200:

the Mother of dragons is now UNBEATABLE. Anybody disputing this fact is better off watching Tom and jerry. She has:-

- the finest soldiers ever made (The unsullied)

- the men loyal to her and ready to do the dirty job (The second sons)

- A very cunning political Strategist (Tyrion Lannister and The eunuch varys)

The vast numbers of swift and agile horsemen (the ENTIRE dothraki horde) Remember that Khal Drogo alone has 100,000 men in his khalasar. and all dothraki are on horse back.

- a vast Navy (The iron fleet of yara and Theon greyjoy and the seized ships from the defeated masters of astapor and Yunkai)

It will require the whitewalkers, the Red God, The Seven and all other supernatural forces working together to bring down such a sheer military might

Oh...........and I forgot to add

3 powerful dragons!!


And ds was the same girl Ned Stark called a little girl when Robert Baratheon and small council counselled Ned to cut her throat.

She's now possibly the most powerful person in Westeros.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by djlaqua91(m): 1:41pm On Jun 21, 2016
oyetpel:

Not Lord Umber, it was Lord Karstark he beheaded. Lord Umber was the one that Rob's direwolf chop off his fingers

Yeah thanks for the correction
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by sagenrdy(m): 1:51pm On Jun 21, 2016
djlaqua91:


Her advice was daft and obvious. Same thing Ser Davos or Tormund would have said. Sansa wasn't a brain. She was careless. I know its just a show but imagine a scenario where your family home is over-run by boko haram. You gather men to fight them but are very few in no. And time is of the essence. Then your sister who had suffered in the Boko haram knew of a dubious family friend who had a large army capable of getting your ancestral home back and she kept shut throughout! Haba mana! Whether you ask the man for help its a different case, at least present an option on the table. That's where she messed up. As for Jon we all knew he wasn't as hard as the Blackfish. He had to at least try to save Rickon (one of the main reasons Sansa persuaded him into the war initially)
thumps up. Bro. I don't know y peeps r r seeing differently I do pity sansa b4 sorry never liked r n still don't arya is way more intelligent dan R. She doesn't like jon @ all

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Kolade354(m): 1:56pm On Jun 21, 2016
Nihilist,what's your view on episode9 generally?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by sagenrdy(m): 2:01pm On Jun 21, 2016
Endy10:


Really? Lady mormont would conquer the seven kingdoms? Really? Please let's be real.
Sansa not telling Jon about Little finger and the knights of the Vale won the battle for them. If she had told him about the her plan, he would have waited, Ramsey would have known about them having a larger army, and he would have prepared differently. His plan was actually perfect even though he killed his own men to make the 'dead' wall (that's what you expect from a psychopath). Even though she should have trusted Jon, her plan actually worked
Ramsey wouldn't have hadhad a easy run if the soldiers r evenly divided d tactic he used was shallow he had d advantage y waste dat many just to corner a few. FYI if he had used a different tactic he could have been able to prolong d battle when little finger forces arrived. He already exposed his soldiers also both ramsey n jon r shitty commander dir battle plans have too much loop holes I guess dey need to go n read art of war sun tzu cheesy
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by sagenrdy(m): 2:05pm On Jun 21, 2016
obstead200:

the Mother of dragons is now UNBEATABLE. Anybody disputing this fact is better off watching Tom and jerry. She has:-

- the finest soldiers ever made (The unsullied)

- the men loyal to her and ready to do the dirty job (The second sons)

- A very cunning political Strategist (Tyrion Lannister and The eunuch varys) gr8 battles have been won with lesser men--jon snow episode9 season6

The vast numbers of swift and agile horsemen (the ENTIRE dothraki horde) Remember that Khal Drogo alone has 100,000 men in his khalasar. and all dothraki are on horse back.

- a vast Navy (The iron fleet of yara and Theon greyjoy and the seized ships from the defeated masters of astapor and Yunkai)

It will require the whitewalkers, the Red God, The Seven and all other supernatural forces working together to bring down such a sheer military might

Oh...........and I forgot to add

3 powerful dragons!!

gr8 battles have been won with lesser soldiers...jon snow. Episode 9 season6
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by djlaqua91(m): 2:10pm On Jun 21, 2016
sagenrdy:
thumps up. Bro. I don't know y peeps r r seeing differently I do pity sansa b4 sorry never liked r n still don't arya is way more intelligent dan R. She doesn't like jon @ all

My brother I tire. This same Sansa that betrayed Arya in season 1 that made her lose her Dire-wolf Nymeria. I believe of all the women in Game of thrones. Brienne of Tarth & Lady Olenna may be the only ones that thinks with her Head first before her heart.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by antispexish(m): 2:41pm On Jun 21, 2016
Who can guess where varys has gone to?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nihilist: 2:55pm On Jun 21, 2016
Kolade354:
Nihilist,what's your view on episode9 generally?

Now that the initial thrill of the episode has worn off, I can't help thinking that there is something fundamentally wrong with that Danarys storyline.

This is a woman that is widely known to as the mother of dragons.

Why would the masters of Astapor:

1. Attack Mereen without making contingency plans for dealing with those dragons?
2. Demand Surrender without making sure the dragons were dead?
3. Attend a negotiation with only a handful of men?

The masters had combined all their considerable forces to attack Mereen. Let's not forget that the Unsullied had been depleted by their running battles with the insurgent mask wearing guys...and grey worm himself said in the previous episode, that they only had enough men to defend the pyramid.

Then there's the new khalassar. A lot has been made of this force's numbers, but if im not mistaken, the khalassar includes not just fighting men, but women, children slaves, etc. If I remember correctly sef, Khal Drogo's squad was full of mostly chicks and slaves with relatively few riders.

Thus I don't belive this Khalassar should be this all conquering battalion that it's made out to be....


I find it so annoying that the masters of astapor would be routed so easily...


But then again, I really just want daenarys dead. I can't stand her sanctimonious guts. angry

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Kolade354(m): 3:07pm On Jun 21, 2016
Nihilist:


Now that the initial thrill of the episode has worn off, I can't help thinking that there is something fundamentally wrong with that Danarys storyline.

This is a woman that is widely known to as the mother of dragons.

Why would the masters of Astapor:

1. Attack Mereen without making contingency plans for dealing with those dragons?
2. Demand Surrender without making sure the dragons were dead?
3. Attend a negotiation with only a handful of men?

The masters had combined all their considerable forces to attack Mereen. Let's not forget that the Unsullied had been depleted by their running battles with the insurgent mask wearing guys...and grey worm himself said in the previous episode, that they only had enough men to defend the pyramid.

Then there's the new khalassar. A lot has been made of this force's numbers, but if im not mistaken, the khalassar includes not just fighting men, but women, children slaves, etc. If I remember correctly sef, Khal Drogo's squad was full of mostly chicks and slaves with relatively few riders.

Thus I don't belive this Khalassar should be this all conquering battalion that it's made out to be....


I find it so annoying that the masters of astapor would be routed so easily...


But then again, I really just want daenarys dead. I can't stand her sanctimonious guts. angry
lol,it's obvious from your post that you're no fan of daenarys.
I understand you sha,but it just a movie and I think the loopholes are normal if you compare it to other series.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by donbenedict(m): 3:20pm On Jun 21, 2016
luxanne:
And I need to see cersei get into some action, she'd paid enough for her sins.

This cersei is frigging boring, I prefer the former.

Can't also wait for the war in the North...they better not disappoint.
hey sup, pls wen is this year's couples competition going to commence?



Cc: tashaamania

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