Let me spread my mat...waiting patiently to listen to what our guru's in the house has to say as regard this

Without mincing words, it is wrong to pipe into the public drain ("gutter".).

Under normal environmental protection law such as NESREA's or USEPA, both soil waste and domestic wastewater ought to be piped into either a public sewer line or septic tank cum soak-away pit.

However sir, the size of your septic tank, SAP and soil absorption rate is very important. Depending on the population equivalent (PE), the size of your septic tank and SAP would vary.

Another option is to have a cesspool (cesspit) for the wastewater only from bathrooms, laundry and kitchen.


I could assist you with septic tank and SAP sizing.

NB: which ever way though, its a crime to pipe wastewater to public drain. The public drain is meant for rainwater conveyance and other miscelleanous water spills (flooding cases for example). Your wastewater constitutes foaming pollution due to high sodium content, alkalinity issues, pH, and it can be harmful to adjacent receiving water bodies which hosts aquatic life and other biotics.

pedrilo:
From experience, I knw that after digging a very big soak away, u create a partition for feaces that will have the base cemented and another partition for water from the kitchen and bathing room without cementing it's base so that the water can sink into the ground.

This is a very common practice too. Its economical and still hygienic.

Soak away should be dug, or would you like to see snakes crawling out from your kitchen or other areas as happened in Thailand recently?

VisitorsCanteen:
Like someone stated above, it depends on 'class'. For me,

Gutter all the way

Lol.. I keep saying it that our governors are lazy. All they do is to sit in government house waiting for allocations every month end.. If not if only they can think deeply, people like you are supposed to be fined heavily for abusing the gutters and the environment in general. You don't see people channeling their waste to gutters in developed world because it is just wrong. If you can have money to build a house then at least you should have 8-10 thousand naira to service your waste once in every 5 years.

SmithHumble50:
Lol... What did u read in skol and what did ur friend read in skol?

It looks like 2 blind people guiding each other to cross the road!

That was an ignorant reply, how about if he read marketing?

idris4r83:
A friend advised me to run my bathroom pipes to my Soakaway I argued with him that it will full quickly and he argued back that it is the best way.

Where i built last 4 years, thats how i did it. It hasnt filled anything. Its a modern way of dealing with bath, kitchen and wash waste water. No gutters dear.

Everything moves from the chamber to the septic tank, excess water from the septic tank is drained through a connecting pipe to the soakaway.

Frankiss44:


Lol.. I keep saying it that our governors are lazy. All they do is to sit in government house waiting for allocations every month end.. If not if only they can think deeply, people like you are supposed to be fined heavily for abusing the gutters and the environment in general. You don't see people channeling their waste to gutters in developed world because it is just wrong. If you can have money to build a house then at least you should have 8-10 thousand naira to service your waste once in every 5 years.

Like what developed world biko?this so called developed world sometimes get over hiped.

Faeces separate pipe,bathing waste another,if you combine both foul odour will be coming out from the air vacuum of the bathroom

ChappyChase:

Septic tank my left balls!
Ogbeni channel the thing to the nearest gutter!

That's environmental pollution it should be treated before discharging to the gutter or u construct a soakaway pit for this purpose

Frankiss44:


The gutter isn't there for you to channel your waste bathing water. The primary purpose of the gutter is to control flood when it rains. Most people that channel it to the gutter are mainly in rural region. You can't stay in Urban areas and be thinking of channeling your waste to a nearby gutter. It either goes straight to the soakaway or a septic tank. And to think of it, what is hygienic about channeling your waste to the gutter?

I beg to disagree at the bold part sir. This isn't true and correct all the time. Though, I live in rural area, Sabo-Yaba, Little Rd, precisely, but even my in-laws who lives in Lekki Phase One have their bath and kitchen water channeled to the gutter. Where can be more urban than here.

By the way, we're talking of Bath water here nah! No be poo, so what's the "biggy" in putting it there?

idris4r83:
A friend advised me to run my bathroom pipes to my Soakaway I argued with him that it will full quickly and he argued back that it is the best way.

u can Chanel your bathroom waste and kitchen waste water to the gutter

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Kindly take note.

Soakaway pit can also be used for poo.

The striking difference is simply in the fact that a Soakaway pit allows for natural seepage of waste water into the earth while retaining the solid wastes (poo) but a Septic tank allows for the retention of both the poo and the waste water.

Generally it is better to channel waste water from bathrooms and wash places to the nearby drain/gutter.

Engr. Osaz'

If you connect kitchen/bath waste water pipe to the septic tank the stench of decomposing poo will be oozing back to your house 24/7.

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mbhs139:


I beg to disagree at the bold part sir. This isn't true and correct all the time. Though, I live in rural area, Sabo-Yaba, Little Rd, precisely, but even my in-laws who lives in Lekki Phase One have their bath and kitchen water channeled to the gutter. Where can be more urban than here.

By the way, we're talking of Bath water here nah! No be poo, so what's the "biggy" in putting it there?

So you truly feel the primary purpose of the drainage is for bathing waste water? We are talking about bath water and kitchen waste water here oh... Channeling both to a public drainage is wrong and should be condemned Sir... What exactly is your in law in Lekki running from,10k maximum to empty his tank every 5years? If you go to lekki you will find out that it is probably only 2 out of 20 persons that will channel their waste to a gutter because it is wrong, classless, unhygienic and even unlawful. Few people doing it are those that still carried their Rural mentality to Urban vicinities and they escaped with this barbaric act because of the failure of our government

mu2sa2:
If you connect kitchen/bath waste water pipe to the septic tank the stench of decomposing poo will be oozing back to your house 24/7.

That is not true Sir...

ChappyChase:

Septic tank my left balls!
Ogbeni channel the thing to the nearest gutter!

...... And blame God plus government when your road plus house is flooded, abi?
Is that wise?

jeftalene:


Kindly take note.

Soakaway pit can also be used for poo.

The striking difference is simply in the fact that a Soakaway pit allows for natural seepage of waste water into the earth while retaining the solid wastes (poo) but a Septic tank allows for the retention of both the poo and the waste water.

Generally it is better to channel waste water from bathrooms and wash places to the nearby drain/gutter.

Engr. Osaz'

You might be a very bright engineer... but a very poor environmentalist. It is cheaper to connect waste water from bathroom and wash places to nearby gutters... but it is never BETTER.

ChappyChase:

Septic tank my left balls!
Ogbeni channel the thing to the nearest gutter!

Obasanjo's grandchild I guess

idris4r83:
A friend advised me to run my bathroom pipes to my Soakaway I argued with him that it will full quickly and he argued back that it is the best way.

my bro am a plumber,seperate 2 of dem it will full early, use 3 inches pipes to channel bathroom into soakaway and use 4 inches pipes to channel toilet pipes into soakaway .and den create septic tanks.incase 1 of dem full.my nomb is on signature incase u need advice or u dig another soakaway for bathroom and kitchen.

erico2k2:
Like what developed world biko?this so called developed world sometimes get over hiped.

Yeah, overhyped.
That is why most of us pray & fast then gather money to smuggle ourselves to the developed world, no be so?

Naughtysite:


Where i built last 4 years, thats how i did it. It hasnt filled anything. Its a modern way of dealing with bath, kitchen and wash waste water. No gutters dear.

Everything moves from the chamber to the septic tank, excess water from the septic tank is drained through a connecting pipe to the soakaway.

This is also another bright idea too. You cannot suggest gutter because there is no difference BTW you that channeled your kitchen and bath waste to a public gutter and people that dump solid waste on that same gutter. When the drainage gets block the impact of ur bathing water will be on the road. And the funny thing is that you will never see the advocates of the barbaric method coming out to dress the gutter even on environmental days... Yet every little thing we end up blaming the government.

JustCare:
It depends on class and the area you're living, it's also more hygienic when it's channeled into a septic tank.

Should it depend on class and the area?
I thought it would depend on the relevant town planning, environmental, sanitation and hygiene laws monitored and enforced by state and local government officials.
Or are we a lawless people?

seguno2:


Yeah, overhyped.
That is why most of us pray & fast then gather money to smuggle ourselves to the developed world, no be so?

You dey mind them... Nigerians just love wishing for better things forgetting that those enjoying it right now achieved it through discipline and sacrifice.. May God help us.

ChappyChase:
Septic tank my left balls! Ogbeni channel the thing to the nearest gutter!

Typical Yoruba!
them dirty eeh!

Frankiss44:


That is not true Sir...

I'm talking from experience. In my new office anytime i opened the door i perceive this terrible stench . Air freshners weren't helpful. When I called the plumber he said the stench was due to the fact that the wash basin waste water pipe was connected to the toilet bowl pipe which connects to the septic tank.

Frankiss44:
And the funny thing is that you will never see the advocates of the barbaric method coming out to dress the gutter even on environmental days... Yet every little thing we end up blaming the government.

The environmental Saturday lockdown is unnecessary and waste of time.
Local government and state officials should monitor and enforce relevant building and sanitation rules with stiff penalties to deter offenders while cleaning the gutters regularly.
No be so oyinbo dey do am so tey we all dey run there go enjoy their clean, calm cities and towns?

Onyochejohn:
Why ague with ur wise friend? Do you want to chanel it to the street and disturb ur neibourgh? What people fail to Understand is both septic tank and soak away can be evacuated, there are truck specially bult for that purpose. Mine was just only soak away, I chanel everything inside,and this is my 5th years, it never full, And whenever it filled, it'll cost me just 8k to evacuate it for the next 6 or 7years maybe.

Onyochejohn it baffles me how Nigerians go to extreme lengths to save very little amounts of money. Channel all wastes into soakaway pits, soakaways dont get filled up easily, I have said it many times, but they won't listen, they will rather pass it into gutters. I stayed in a house with my parents and siblings for 10 years yet the soak away pit never got full. Passing it into gutters is unhygienic, evacuation of soak away is easier and more cost effective than treating typhoid and cholera.

Frankiss44:
You dey mind them... Nigerians just love wishing for better things forgetting that those enjoying it right now achieved it through discipline and sacrifice.. May God help us.

Thanks sir.
However God won't help us. He does not need to as he gave us brains just like the oyinbos wey sabi use their own well.

Frankiss44:


You might be a very bright engineer... but a very poor environmentalist. It is cheaper to connect waste water from bathroom and wash places to nearby gutters... but it is never BETTER.

Thanks for your observation but why not consider it from the perspective that it is better and even cheaper the government or public waste managers treat waste or foul water from main drains at a collection points before emptying them into existing water bodies. Decentralising the cost of treating waste water to individual units/houses in a country like ours is obviously not a better Idea!

There are systems that help you treat waste water before they are emptied into the drain. They are also cost effective to purchase, install and maintain. If household units can use these systems then the public drain will be safer, especially in flood prone areas.

Now you see what informed the use of the word 'better' in my opinion.

In the end, let the statutory town planning regulations relating to waste water management be strictly adhered to.

jeftalene:
Thanks for your observation but why not consider it from the perspective that it is better and even cheaper the government or public waste managers treat waste or foul water from main drains at a collection points before emptying them into existing water bodies. Decentralising the cost and system of treating waste water to individual units/houses in a country like ours is obviously not a better Idea!
Now you see what informed the use of the word 'better' in my opinion.

Your explanation is better but is that what is applicable in our country today?
Is it feasible in the next few years?
Can our local government and state officials EMPLOY people to make this happen and work instead of just stealing our money while we foolishly applaud, praise and use them as points of contact for our own breakthrough.
Perhaps some estates in Lekki are doing this already with COVERED gutters.