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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by highskies(m): 9:43am On Jul 02, 2016
Without mincing words, it is wrong to pipe into the public drain ("gutter".).

Under normal environmental protection law such as NESREA's or USEPA, both soil waste and domestic wastewater ought to be piped into either a public sewer line or septic tank cum soak-away pit.

It is important to note that the septic tank and SAP work together. The septic tank works as an anaerobic digestic (thus the need to vent it to release CH4 gas and some others). The septic tank digests the solid and other putricible wastes from the kitchen. There's a "baffle" inside the septic tank that allows for hydraulic flocculation and settling of sludge (treated sewage) whilst encouraging movement of wastewater into the SAP.

However sir, the size of your septic tank, SAP and soil absorption rate is very important. Depending on the population equivalent (PE), the size of your septic tank and SAP would vary. You could discourage odours by piping kitchen waste to its own manhole and venting each toilet WC soil waste stack.

Another option is to have a cesspool (cesspit) for the wastewater only from bathrooms, laundry and kitchen.

Send me a mail on gbenga.julius@rocketmail.com

I could assist you with septic tank and SAP sizing.

NB: which ever way though, its a crime to pipe wastewater to public drain. The public drain is meant for rainwater conveyance and other miscelleanous water spills (flooding cases for example). Your wastewater constitutes foaming pollution due to high sodium content, alkalinity issues, pH, and it can be harmful to adjacent receiving water bodies which hosts aquatic life and other biotics.

idris4r83:
A friend advised me to run my bathroom pipes to my Soakaway I argued with him that it will full quickly and he argued back that it is the best way.

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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by Thobiy(m): 9:55am On Jul 02, 2016
Nt good
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by Mailthaddeus(m): 10:06am On Jul 02, 2016
U hv two options, it's either u channel to the nearest gutter or to the soak-away pit. Channeling to the gutter is wrong and against environmental laws. Buh channeling to the soakaway is best and it dosent necessarily causes it to full, cos d soakaway is never filled up, d water naturally drains away to the surrounding earth. What gets filled up is d septic tank which is water tight and airtight for anerobic decaying of d solid wastes. The solid waste settles to d bottom while d liquid waste floats on top and as usage continues, d liquid wastes flows into d soakaway and still drains from it. So, in summary, channel to a nicely built soakaway with proper perforations on d walls and u hv notin to worry about.

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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by Reference(m): 10:23am On Jul 02, 2016
Confusing terminology or ignorance or what. First of all. A soakaway pit like the name indicates permits the flow of liquids to the surrounding earth while a septic tank is an impervious container built to hold waste, process it to separate liquids and keeps the solids till they can be evacuated in a sanitary manner, hence it is comlpetely sealed. To prolong its lifespan/reduce its operational size, it is often connected to the soakaway pit. To accomplish the process of seperating liquids from solids and optimizing the process of anaerobic reactions the septic tank should have two or more chambers. The more chambers it has the more efficient the waste processing is and the longer the system will last between evacuation (however if waste is left too long in a septic tank it eventually calcify and become extremely difficult to vacumn out, clean and will damage the tank itself).

A soakaway pit however is built never to be able to fill up as long as the surrounding soils are not oversaturated as in the case of regions at or below sea level or close to the water table. Hence they can take waste water directly from bath tubs and washbasins almost forever. Kitchen waste water however containes far too much organics to discharge directly into the soakaway pit.

Discharging any waste whatsoever from a building into an open drain is illegal under all building codes and violates our environmental laws and is a hazard to both the environment and the health and well being of the populace in general. Donot do it.

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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by Psoul(m): 10:42am On Jul 02, 2016
It is far better you channel both into the same place. These are my reasons

1. Faeces or poo poo gets dry and cake up

2. Waste water can easily sink and dries away

If you have a separate septic tank, it wont take long before it get filled up because the poo poo may dry up and thereby takes a larger space. But when it is been mixed with the waste water, it remains in semi liquid form and there will be a serious breakdown of the poo poo which a higher percentage of it will turn to liquid and drain into the ground. Secondly, in the semi liquid form, evacuation is easier and thorough.

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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by sammily(m): 10:45am On Jul 02, 2016
jjagz:
I hope this doesn't get lost in the myriad of responses and the OP sees this.

What is classically done in our climes is to have one hole partitioned into 2 parts which are;

1) SEPTIC TANK: This is where toilet waste i.e faeces are flushed into. Bacteria (which is why it is called SEPTIC) decompose it into SLUDGE which settles and WATER which floats. This tank is usually made with concrete ate the bottom to prevent the sludge from getting into surrounding soil. At the top of this tank is a connection through a hole, pipe or whatever to the septic tank that allows water to drain into the soakaway pit if the water above the sludge becomes excessive. NEVER DIRECT WATER FROM SINKS OR BATHROOMS OR KITCHENS HERE BECAUSE THEY CONTAIN SOAP AND OTHER CHEMICALS THAT WILL INHIBIT THE BACTERIA AND THE SEPTIC TANK FILLS UP QUICKLY LEAVING YOU LITERALLY WITH BIG UNDECOMPOSED SHIT.

2) SOAKAWAY PIT: Which is what we call the whole set up at times. It is normally larger and the floor is left bare to allow water literally SOAK AWAY into the ground. Water from sinks, bathrooms, kitchen sinks etc should all come here, including the excess run off from the septic tank( remember from above). SIMILARLY TOILET WASTE SHOULD NOT BE DIRECTED HERE FOR THE SAME REASON IN CAPITAL LETTERS ABOVE.

I hope I have clarified and and not confused you more.

You're welcome.

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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by oxyG: 11:11am On Jul 02, 2016
pedrilo:
From experience, I knw that after digging a very big soak away, u create a partition for feaces that will have the base cemented and another partition for water from the kitchen and bathing room without cementing it's base so that the water can sink into the ground.
Your point is good.However,by standard, everything first goes to the septic tank (which is watertight) where the solid settles and the liquid then overflow to the soak-away pit.But,it is to be noted that you don't just dig something and call it a soakaway pit,you must know the percolation rate of the land,else, the soakaway will overflow in no time.To save yourself the stress if you don't have a professional around you,and there is no nearby drainage, dig a 'CESSPOOL' for that application and be ready to dislodge it as frequent as possible.
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by papinx(m): 11:44am On Jul 02, 2016
mufutau55:


You should have Septic Tank and Soakaway... people always call both soakaway which is a wrong term.

1. Septic Tank is for Poooo! (Feces from your toilet)
2. Soakaway is for Water waste from both bathroom, sinks, and Kitchen.

Hajji M.

Great clarification there sir..


#TEAMFYNESTBOI

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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by Hardeyoye: 11:47am On Jul 02, 2016
Don't know if the Op can get to read this. The best way is to dig a separate hole for the bath water. A separate hole for kitchen water too. let me explain now. if u channel bath water into d main soakaway, d odour will come back to d bathroom. if u channel kitchen water too, d odour comes back inside d kitchen too. Follow my advice and u will thank me later.
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by NemzySeries(m): 12:06pm On Jul 02, 2016
see talk abeg, datz y sum f u can't stay in major cities in d country if not a wud sum1 build a hauz & instead of building a suckaway chamber hiz finking of gutter.....abeg are u a mallam?
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by Alexdon200089: 12:20pm On Jul 02, 2016
idris4r83:
A friend advised me to run my bathroom pipes to my Soakaway I argued with him that it will full quickly and he argued back that it is the best way.
...I have handled four houses as an engineer...your question is a simple one...evrything you do in your house depends on the structure of the house...some buildings does not have good solid foundation...while some have.so the best thing to is..if there is a drainage close to your house you channel your bathroom and kitchen waste water to it! But if you don't have a drainage this are the things you consider during the foundation of the building, cause what ever you didn't place in the right order during foundation will fetch you back during completion,if there is no drainage, you should dig the soakpit 12fit deep 10inches wide..reason is because you want to channel your bathroom and kitchen wastewater..the depth and wideness of the soak pit will have along way to go in saving you more money in the future than you expected!!So check your building plan and structure of your house and the environment before you make the decision of channeling your bathroom and kitchen water to the soakpit...your friend idea is a good one but it has to do with the foundation of your house!!soakpit is not what you play with when building a house..thanks
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by erico2k2(m): 12:38pm On Jul 02, 2016
seguno2:


Are the drains in the UK covered, centralised and treated?
Are many people EMPLOYED to work on those drains so that they are permanently clear and clean?
Do you know if that is the case in our own country?
You answered the question I was striving to ask.the responsibilty of what comes out as waste in ones yard should be of the govt and not its citizens. If the government provides drains which they can treat at the end then why would we worry where to channel our waste water to.in London this is the case. There is a central sewer. If you are building your house you just link it to this main line all ur waste poo,wee or waste water.however in more modern times waste water is now recycled for toilet use.

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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by seguno2: 12:40pm On Jul 02, 2016
erico2k2:
You answered the question I was striving to ask.the responsibilty of what comes out as waste in ones yard should be of the govt and not its citizens. If the government provides drains which they can treat at the end then why would we worry where to channel our waste water to.in London this is the case. There is a central sewer. If you are building your house you just link it to this main line all ur waste poo,wee or waste water.however in more modern times waste water is now recycled for toilet use.

I understand you but how do we get there in our country where TAP water is not even available?
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by erico2k2(m): 12:40pm On Jul 02, 2016
Alexdon200089:
...I have handled four houses as an engineer...your question is a simple one...evrything you do in your house depends on the structure of the house...some buildings does not have good solid foundation...while some have.so the best thing to is..if there is a drainage close to your house you channel your bathroom and kitchen waste water to it! But if you don't have a drainage this are the things you consider during the foundation of the building, cause what ever you didn't place in the right order during foundation will fetch you back during completion,if there is no drainage, you should dig the soakpit 12fit deep 10inches wide..reason is because you want to channel your bathroom and kitchen wastewater..the depth and wideness of the soak pit will have along way to go in saving you more money in the future than you expected!!So check your building plan and structure of your house and the environment before you make the decision of channeling your bathroom and kitchen water to the soakpit...your friend idea is a good one but it has to do with the foundation of your house!!soakpit is not what you play with when building a house..thanks
You first few paragraphs sums it up ***channel your waste water to a drain if one is available. **
Now,who is responsible for drain building and cleaning?

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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by MOHE: 12:41pm On Jul 02, 2016
idris4r83:
A friend advised me to run my bathroom pipes to my Soakaway I argued with him that it will full quickly and he argued back that it is the best way.
It's not wise. The chemical residue of your bathing and washing processes will hinder microbes from disintegrating your septic wastes thereby making the tank filled earlier than normal.
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by erico2k2(m): 12:41pm On Jul 02, 2016
seguno2:


I understand you but how do we get there in our country where TAP water is not even available?
No we do not,so this is why the govt don't have any moral ground to fine or jail anyone as such cos in its own right they have failed in thier responsibilty.
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by erico2k2(m): 12:48pm On Jul 02, 2016
highskies:
Without mincing words, it is wrong to pipe into the public drain ("gutter".).

Under normal environmental protection law such as NESREA's or USEPA, both soil waste and domestic wastewater ought to be piped into either a public sewer line or septic tank cum soak-away pit.

It is important to note that the septic tank and SAP work together. The septic tank works as an anaerobic digestic (thus the need to vent it to release CH4 gas and some others). The septic tank digests the solid and other putricible wastes from the kitchen. There's a "baffle" inside the septic tank that allows for hydraulic flocculation and settling of sludge (treated sewage) whilst encouraging movement of wastewater into the SAP.

However sir, the size of your septic tank, SAP and soil absorption rate is very important. Depending on the population equivalent (PE), the size of your septic tank and SAP would vary. You could discourage odours by piping kitchen waste to its own manhole and venting each toilet WC soil waste stack.

Another option is to have a cesspool (cesspit) for the wastewater only from bathrooms, laundry and kitchen.

Send me a mail on gbenga.julius@rocketmail.com

I could assist you with septic tank and SAP sizing.

NB: which ever way though, its a crime to pipe wastewater to public drain. The public drain is meant for rainwater conveyance and other miscelleanous water spills (flooding cases for example). Your wastewater constitutes foaming pollution due to high sodium content, alkalinity issues, pH, and it can be harmful to adjacent receiving water bodies which hosts aquatic life and other biotics.

Point of correction. .its not an offence to pipe wash and waste water to public drains however it's an offence to pipe your toilet to a public drain. I stand to be corrected.
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by erico2k2(m): 12:51pm On Jul 02, 2016
MabraO:
All of u saying he should channel it yo the nearest gutter are the ones killing the country den blame govt. how will u channel ur waste from inside ur house to the gutter govt constructed for flood?
And wen there is over flooding u start hearing people complain govt this govt that
Quick question for the mind.rain water washing fru from ladipo mkt going fru gutters and your waste water comprising of palm oil grease and balance soup.which do you think is more harmful to the environment??

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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by seguno2: 12:53pm On Jul 02, 2016
erico2k2:
No we do not,so this is why the govt don't have any moral ground to fine or jail anyone as such cos in its own right they have failed in thier responsibilty.

Is it correct to say that WE, the citizens, have allowed our politicians take undue advantage of us by stealing our money so easily.

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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by erico2k2(m): 1:13pm On Jul 02, 2016
seguno2:


Is it correct to say that WE, the citizens, have allowed our politicians take undue advantage of us by stealing our money so easily.
Yes oooo. But the citizen's are powerless cos of lack of empowerment
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by Alexdon200089: 1:34pm On Jul 02, 2016
erico2k2:

You first few paragraphs sums it up ***channel your waste water to a drain if one is available. **
Now,who is responsible for drain building and cleaning?
lolz....i didn't quite get you, but I think the answer to your question via if am right about what am about to say..is sewage management
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by lereinter(m): 1:34pm On Jul 02, 2016
mufutau55:


You should have Septic Tank and Soakaway... people always call both soakaway which is a wrong term.

1. Septic Tank is for Poooo! (Feces from your toilet)
2. Soakaway is for Water waste from both bathroom, sinks, and Kitchen.

Hajji M.

Let me google your theory
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by mufutau55(m): 1:37pm On Jul 02, 2016
Barselonia:

And If I told you, you are wrong.......

septic tank And soakaway works together...
septic tank is ffor poo, accept..... there is a passage btw the septic And soakaway...
When thee septic fulll reach a level, the excess water start to move to the soakaaway...Which iis every it can be easily ddry offf

Of course you have the right to your own opinion... if you are a professional in this field...

In a regular good solid soil... Septic Tank and Soakaway are built separately... the Soakaway will be built perforated so that the water waste can sink into the soil naturally... so it never get full. The Septic Tank must be well cement not to leak.. so that when it's full it will be evacuated.
Mostly the above system of Septic Tank and Soakaway is used.

Now if you are building in a waterlogged area where you have to build a "sunken soakaway and septic tank" together... both will be well built with concreted and cemented with a waterproof cement. Then there is a way the soakaway and the septic tank will be channeled together so that excess water from septic can flow into soakaway. With this kind of system, both will need to be evacuated routinely because both will get filled with water quickly and there will be no where for the water to go unless you have a good drainage channel in the area; which we don't have in most of Nigeria neighborhood. I am sure this second process is what you are describing.

Please join us in Properties Forum to learn.

Hajji M.
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by Alexdon200089: 1:38pm On Jul 02, 2016
erico2k2:

Quick question for the mind.rain water washing fru from ladipo mkt going fru gutters and yoyr waste water comprising of palm oil grease and balance soup.which do you think is more harmful to the environment??
lolz....this reply is so funny ooo..@Mabra.....nobody is killing anything o, all is water when rain comes it goes with it..government did not just build those drainage just for flood alone,its also for domestic use...what am against is people that channel their toilet waste to the drainage!!
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by mufutau55(m): 1:41pm On Jul 02, 2016
Lincoln275:

The best thing is to channel it to nearest drainage. Function of soak away is to just accommodate excess sewere or waste water from septic tank for short period of time. Or u have special tank for all ur waste water separately

And how many area do we have this "Central Drainage system" in Nigeria?

Hajji M.
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by Nyceguy92: 1:45pm On Jul 02, 2016
idris4r83:
A friend advised me to run my bathroom pipes to my Soakaway I argued with him that it will full quickly and he argued back that it is the best way.

Sending kitchen and bathroom waste water to the gutter is a public health and environmental nuisance.
Some responses here presume that every house is next to the gutter.

What of that house in the villa, probably surrounded by other houses?
What I have known builders do over the years is channel same to the soakaway partition and let the water seep into the ground.

What I am not sure is if there will be backward movement of gas from the soakaway to the kitchen tap.
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by Nyceguy92: 1:49pm On Jul 02, 2016
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Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by MabraO: 2:07pm On Jul 02, 2016
erico2k2:

Quick question for the mind.rain water washing fru from ladipo mkt going fru gutters and yoyr waste water comprising of palm oil grease and balance soup.which do you think is more harmful to the environment??

Irrelevant question
Cos waste water comprising palm oil don't just find its way into the gutters except u pour then in it..
All u mentioned are as a result of humans putting them there
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by 12inchDickson: 2:17pm On Jul 02, 2016
idris4r83:
A friend advised me to run my bathroom pipes to my Soakaway I argued with him that it will full quickly and he argued back that it is the best way.
u can create another septic tnk for this type of waste water, it will be treated biologically, nd excess will seep into the ground.. Buh don't site a shallow well or borehole near such structures
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by olaridwan(m): 2:24pm On Jul 02, 2016
mufutau55:


You should have Septic Tank and Soakaway... people always call both soakaway which is a wrong term.

1. Septic Tank is for Poooo! (Feces from your toilet)
2. Soakaway is for Water waste from both bathroom, sinks, and Kitchen.

Hajji M.
are u an engineer? y r u giving people wrong information.....soak away is not waste water from bathrooms nko, soak away is always beside septic tank which collect over flow water from septic and den soak it away to the surrounding soil...
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by highskies(m): 2:27pm On Jul 02, 2016
Wastewater can only be discharged into public drain if and only if it treated to conform with NESREA standard.

I can assure you that most residents can't afford this.

erico2k2:

Point of correction. .its not an offence to pipe wash and waste water to public drains however it's an offence to pipe your toilet to a public drain. I stand to be corrected.
Re: Is It Wise To Run Bathing(bathroom) Water Pipes To Your Soakaway? by erico2k2(m): 2:39pm On Jul 02, 2016
MabraO:


Irrelevant question
Cos waste water comprising palm oil don't just find its way into the gutters except u pour then in it..
All u mentioned are as a result of humans putting them there
But still U failed to give me an irrelivant answer.

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