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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:49pm On Aug 10, 2016
dopeJemi:
Okay but answer my question, pep has no excuse not to win the league this season because he is the biggest spender this transfer window

Right?

Someone already broke a world record, and that throws every bet away. Unless Pep can break the world record before the window closes then Mourinho has to win this league this season
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:50pm On Aug 10, 2016
AdisaOwala:


Meaning that it wouldnt be outta place if Mourihno is given more than one season to win the league abi?

He can be fired or left but it would be on file that he broke the world record and failed to win the league or CL

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by halmeyd(m): 6:51pm On Aug 10, 2016
Diademk07:



Better shake your damn head well. Tell me how the French league is as good as the Premier league? Apart from Psg, which other competitive teams are in the league?

Is it because it produce talents? Is it the only league that produces talent?

The funny thing is most of the talents aint even yet developed before leaving the league. Tell me how they could have made the league better when they always get poached early before they event get to reach their peak years?

Abegi!

i was reffferin to hw u were trying to analyse dimaria's performances wen u dnt even watch d french ligue...i bet u didnt even see more dan 3 psg's matches last seasn
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:52pm On Aug 10, 2016
Skimpledawg:
I just like this Raumdeuter guy, freaking smart! grin

Thank you sir for the comments, I suspect you are very smart too since they say Game recognize game

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:54pm On Aug 10, 2016
raumdeuter:


Were those the only 2 seasons Madrid broke the world records

In 2000 when they broke the record signing Figo which club spent more than them?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:54pm On Aug 10, 2016
Chelseafan1:
Lol, he never concedes defeat, he'll still look for one nonsense to say to bail out. cheesy cheesy

What you call nonsense is what others call Logic. Did you take any of Jingo's classes PHL 104 or you were busy chasing those Aluta market and buttery salesgirls all around
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 6:57pm On Aug 10, 2016
raumdeuter:


Someone already broke a world record, and that throws every bet away. Unless Pep can break the world record before the window closes then Mourinho has to win this league this season

We broke a world record but yet couldn't out spend pep who is the highest spender in this TW

We broke a world record on one player not total amount of money spent in one TW, and when it comes to this, Pep is number 1

So my friend, the bald headed man has no excuse
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:57pm On Aug 10, 2016
afrodoc2:


In 2001 when they broke the record signing Figo which club spent more than them?

Bros my answers are clear. To dispute it list all the years Madrid broke a world record and check if there was a yr another club broke it

Thats easier to do that to be asking for one yr after the other
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:58pm On Aug 10, 2016
Chelseafan1:


cheesy cheesy Whenever his replies ain't coming in for so long, he wan use style run be dt....Pep has already outspent Mou, yet na Mourinho hin dey face because he broke world record, who are the players Pep bot with his own money, did he buy them just to waste money?

Run from who? I'm waiting to see whose reach is long enough to make me run
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:59pm On Aug 10, 2016
Diademk07:



I stated that Hazard had roughly the same stats or if not better and yes he was better with his 20 goals and 16 assists, he was far better than Di Maria while playing in a lesser team.

The funny thing is, if average to nothing headless players such as Moura and Pastore could get 11/12 assists for Psg in that league, what is the fuss about Di Maria's 18 assists?
Why couldn't he do his magic vs City then? Why look rubbish in both legs against City awful defence?

Abegi!

Only those that don't watch Di Maria wouldn't know that he's an inconsistent sod who would stink the place for the entire 90 mins yet deliver an assist at the end of it. The only time he was ever consistent was for a 6months as a makeshift box-box CM alongside pass masters like Modric/Alonso.

I was vehemently against his signing and I was happy when he was rightly binned because he's not a player you build a team around to make it function but a player that's only added to an already well oiled functioning team.

When it comes to Assists, Hazard is nowhere near Di Maria. Hazard has only done it one league. Di Maria has done it in two leagues.

Even when both met in the EPL, Di Maria had more Assists than Hazard despite playing half the time Hazard played.

EPL
Di Maria 10 Assists 1, 600 minutes
Hazard 9 Assists in 3,300 minutes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 7:00pm On Aug 10, 2016
halmeyd:


i was reffferin to hw u were trying to analyse dimaria's performances wen u dnt even watch d french ligue...i bet u didnt even see more dan 3 psg's matches last seasn

Why do I have to watch all of Psg matches to be able to analyse Di Maria games when I watched him throughout his stay at Madrid?

The truth is the french league is average. No doubt it's the closest to the Epl due to its physical style of play however the EPl edges it with its faster pace/tempo and the fact that the talented players are spread across the EPL unlike the French league which is lopsided.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:01pm On Aug 10, 2016
dopeJemi:
We broke a world record but yet couldn't out spend pep who is the highest spender in this TW

We broke a world record on one player not total amount of money spent in one TW, and when it comes to this, Pep is number 1

So my friend, the bald headed man has no excuse

WHen you break a world record fee, Means you have to win either the CL or the League, You break a world record to win titles not to generate excuses

If you dont win the league or CL after breaking the world record then you have failed and most likely should be sacked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:05pm On Aug 10, 2016
Diademk07:


How did they make us win the gme when they couldn't keep clean sheets despite the spider man, De gea behind them? Care to explain that to me?
Should I fetch you a game where we managed to keep a clean sheet without the 'mighty Jones' in it that very season?

Abegi!

We had more games where Jones and Smalling kept clean sheet visavis total appearance together, than any other combination.

You also don't understand football. You think winning matches depends only on the forwards. If that is the case, then Carrick cannot be credited for any of our wins because he is part of the defensive set up.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 7:06pm On Aug 10, 2016
raumdeuter:

WHen you break a world record fee, Means you have to win either the CL or the League, You break a world record to win titles not to generate excuses
If you dont win the league or CL after breaking the world record then you have failed and most likely should be sacked

When you are the highest spender in the TW, yyou have to win the CL, FA cup, EPL and any other Jara cup

You out spend your rivals to win titles not to generate excuses, if you don't win the league or CL after out spending your rivals you have failed woefully and should be sacked at once

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:08pm On Aug 10, 2016
raumdeuter:


Bros my answers are clear. To dispute it list all the years Madrid broke a world record and check if there was a yr another club broke it

Thats easier to do that to be asking for one yr after the other

In 2000, 2009 and 2013 Madrid broke the record and outspent all the other clubs too.

In 2001 they broke the world record for the second consecutive year adding a reigning WPOTY of the year to a defending league champion squad.......and they dropped from 1st to 3rd. Breaking record doesn't mean anything if you don't improve the squad across board with total spending.

Your logic means if Pogba was the only signing Utd made and City made all these signings adding up to nearly 150m pounds you would still place more expectations on Mourinho?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:11pm On Aug 10, 2016
If you out spend all your rivals to add to a world class team you have no excuses.

PEP MUST WIN THE TREBLE THIS SEASON.......NO EXCUSES!
# APARI O NI EXCUSE grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:15pm On Aug 10, 2016
dopeJemi:


When you are the highest spender in the TW, yyou have to win the CL, FA cup, EPL and any other Jara cup

You out spend your rivals to win titles not to generate excuses, if you don't win the league or CL after out spending your rivals you have failed woefully and should be sacked at once

Facts do not support your assertions

In 2014/15 Man Utd outspent everyone in that transfer window they spent 200M yet Van Gaal wasnt sacked

Now prove mine wrong. Ball in your court
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 7:16pm On Aug 10, 2016
afrodoc2:


In 2000, 2009 and 2013 Madrid broke the record and outspent all the other clubs too.

In 2001 they broke the world record for the second consecutive year adding a reigning WPOTY of the year to a defending league champion squad.......and they dropped from 1st to 3rd. Breaking record doesn't mean anything if you don't improve the squad across board with total spending.

Your logic means if Pogba was the only signing Utd made and City made all these signings adding up to nearly 150m pounds you would still place more expectations on Mourinho?
Grade A Pa Ramuzaki logic right there ladies and gentleman.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 7:17pm On Aug 10, 2016
raumdeuter:


Thank you sir for the comments, I suspect you are very smart too since they say Game recognize game
boss mi, please do not take it to heart. the idea was not to make u feel bad. am a young lad where u are baba.



Oga Afrodoc, TREBLE?
grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:18pm On Aug 10, 2016
afrodoc2:


In 2000, 2009 and 2013 Madrid broke the record and outspent all the other clubs too.

In 2001 they broke the world record for the second consecutive year adding a reigning WPOTY of the year to a defending league champion squad.......and they dropped from 1st to 3rd. Breaking record doesn't mean anything if you don't improve the squad across board with total spending.

Your logic means if Pogba was the only signing Utd made and City made all these signings adding up to nearly 150m pounds you would still place more expectations on Mourinho?

Whats all these? Every season Madrid broke the record they won either the league or CL, when they dont they fire the coach

You dont break a world record for nothing, Its a statement of intent and you have to win or you have failed
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 7:21pm On Aug 10, 2016
no need for all this pussyfooting, we are going to win the league. nobody else so far,has done anything to make me think we cant win.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 7:22pm On Aug 10, 2016
elampiro:


When it comes to Assists, Hazard is nowhere near Di Maria. Hazard has only done it one league. Di Maria has done it in two leagues.

Even when both met in the EPL, Di Maria had more Assists than Hazard despite playing half the time Hazard played.

EPL
Di Maria 10 Assists 1, 600 minutes
Hazard 9 Assists in 3,300 minutes.

How about checking the keypass stat if you really must tow this stat lane? And yes, Hazard was a lot better in all department whether keypasses or in his dribbling.

Personally, I prefer Hazard to Di Maria. Why? He's a player who can pull an underperforming team to a title like he did for Lille or Chelsea in the second half of their title run when the likes of Fabregas, Costa and Matic stopped playing. He almost did same for the underperforming Belgium team at the recent Euro but others were just too shite/uninterested.

Last season was probably an anomaly for Hazard or maybe he was suffering from an injury but he's better than Di Maria who can only does his magic in a well oiled team and yet still inconsistent in that world-class team.

You probably love Di Maria because he's very similar to your bae, Rooney. Their bottom level are the worst I've ever seen of any pro player to the extent that they can't even deliver the basic right such as simple passes whenever they are off form yet would get an assist/goal at the end of the day after stinking the whole place.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:23pm On Aug 10, 2016
SIRcumalot:
no need for all this pussyfooting,
we are going to win the league.
nobody else so far,has done anything to make me think we cant win.

Thank you. Especially after breaking a world record
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:25pm On Aug 10, 2016
Skimpledawg:

boss mi, please do not take it to heart. the idea was not to make u feel bad. am a young lad where u are baba.
Oga Afrodoc, TREBLE? grin

Feel bad? Infact I am elated I can even throw a party right now that all my effort day and night isnt in vain. Only if they can give me some reward like they do for Mr Nairaland to pay for my internet
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:25pm On Aug 10, 2016
Raumdeuter is right, if both managers fail, it will be on record that Mou broke transfer window record and failed, how many pple will remember Pep out spent him?
I just pray Mou won't commit suicide with the way English press will feast on him.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 7:25pm On Aug 10, 2016
raumdeuter:


Facts do not support your assertions

In 2014/15 Man Utd outspent everyone in that transfer window they spent 200M yet Van Gaal wasnt sacked

Now prove mine wrong. Ball in your court

Sacking a coach is down to the club not the opinions of the public, he was sacked the season after that because he was considered a failure

Abramovich outspent his rivals and won the league, man city outspent their rivals and won the league, LVG outspent his rivals couldn't win the league and got sacked

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 7:29pm On Aug 10, 2016
Raumdeuter, can we now say outspending your rivals is not the highest factor? Shall we mark today's date?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordjnr: 7:29pm On Aug 10, 2016
cool

In honour of "francesco totti" who retires @ the end of this season from roma!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYtEls3XFGs&app=desktop





A great 1 club man, highly respected and talented! Na to follow roma small this season sure pass this year for serie a....................
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 7:31pm On Aug 10, 2016
raumdeuter:

Thank you. Especially after breaking a world record
that hasn't nothing to do with anything, like they showed you with Madrid above. I just don't see what anybody else have done to make me think otherwise. maybe am drunk with all these positivity surrounding UTD this week.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 7:34pm On Aug 10, 2016
elampiro:


We had more games where Jones and Smalling kept clean sheet visavis total appearance together, than any other combination.

You also don't understand football. You think winning matches depends only on the forwards. If that is the case, then Carrick cannot be credited for any of our wins because he is part of the defensive set up.

It's you that statement should be directed to.

There's lot of thing Carrick brings to the team. His spatial awareness, control and passing helps to bring the ball to our attackers in better spaces where they could easily do the damage.

Take for example, an incisive vertical pass in the middle opens up the opponent faster than all those sideways passes of Herrera. His movement and awareness on the ball breaks the defensive shape of the opposition or block the passing lane of the opposition team. His ability to switch play with his visionary passes to the wing in acres of space makes it easy for our wingers/inverted forwards.

He simply bring a lot of control to our midfield with his build-up play and playmaking even when he's basically an holding CM.

It's blue murder to think donkeys like Jones and Smalling brings a lot to our attack. Pray tell, what do they bring in the attack? Visionary passes? Dribbling?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:48pm On Aug 10, 2016
Diademk07:



I stated that Hazard had roughly the same stats or if not better and yes he was better with his 20 goals and 16 assists, he was far better than Di Maria while playing in a lesser team.

The funny thing is, if [b]average to nothing headless players such as Moura and Pastore could get 11/12 assists for Psg in that league, what is the fuss about Di Maria's 18 assists?
[/b]Why couldn't he do his magic vs City then? Why look rubbish in both legs against City awful defence?

Abegi!

Only those that don't watch Di Maria wouldn't know that he's an inconsistent sod who would stink the place for the entire 90 mins yet deliver an assist at the end of it. The only time he was ever consistent was for a 6months as a makeshift box-box CM alongside pass masters like Modric/Alonso.

I was vehemently against his signing and I was happy when he was rightly binned because he's not a player you build a team around to make it function but a player that's only added to an already well oiled functioning team.
labeling pastore a headless player only shows how much you know about football...As for Moura, I have no words for you, Moura is a very talented player (you're probably still upset he snubbed us for PSG)

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 7:52pm On Aug 10, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
Raumdeuter is right, if both managers fail, it will be on record that Mou broke transfer window record and failed, how many pple will remember Pep out spent him?
I just pray Mou won't commit suicide with the way English press will feast on him.
irrespective of our the coming season goes (na we go still win)
the following one
we make barca an offer they can't refuse for neymar.

seem to me that some of you,are creating wiggle room incase sheet happens.
me don jump in head first into raumdeter's trap wetin go happen go happen (but we go win)

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