OMAR12:
like I said yo one whose stupidity is celebrated by himself alone. u said other town from the west banks are under Bini empire or as u rightly side are of the Bini extraction, why would the crown want to steal slaves from it own people.

Lol. You sound like an illiterate. And it seems you have a fundamental problem with English language. Especially reading and comprehension.

Everything I posted on this thread has been pretty much clear and straightforward. Igbos aren't indigenous to Delta. They got there as slaves, just as they were slaves everywhere in Rivers, all the way to a place called Bonny and where Jaja of Opobo ruled.

Those tribal settlement weren't that big back then and it was easy for the Igbo slaves to dominate them in terms of population. And everything is well documented. The population of the Itsekiris back then was about 10,000-20,000. The Urhobos weren't even more than 100,000. Now imagine what the huge Igbo population of 4million would do to all the other small settlements where they worked as slaves. It's well documented that Igbo slaves outnumber the number of indigenous folks where the worked in that axis.

Anyway, why do people who got to a location as slaves want to force their identity on those they met there? To know Igbos aren't indigenous to Delta - you just have to check the history of Onitsha. Onitsha folks just started embracing Igbo identity less than 50 years ago loool. Stop reaching loool.

Ubenedictus:
The languge simply means that the ibo migration was largest

The migrating people from Bini to Anioma were Igbo speaking already. Eze Chima migration was a reverse migration. His name is Eze Chima for crying out loud. Not Osaze Osazuwa.

So even though they resided in Bini, they were not Binis. This is the only logical explanation why they were Igbo speaking from the word go!


They had bini friends in their company, yet on getting to Anioma, they met many primitive Igbo speaking groups already stationed there. This too was recorded in their histories.
It was easy to see why Igbo language prevailed in the end there.

Shym3xx:


Lol. You sound like an illiterate. And it seems you have a fundamental problem with English language. Especially reading and comprehension.

Everything I posted on this thread has been pretty much clear and straightforward. Igbos aren't indigenous to Delta. They got there as slaves, just as they were slaves everywhere in Rivers, all the way to a place called Bonny and where Jaja of Opobo ruled.

Those tribal settlement weren't that big back then and it was easy for the Igbo slaves to dominate them in terms of population. And everything is well documented. The population of the Itsekiris back then was about 10,000-20,000. The Urhobos weren't even more than 100,000. Now imagine what the huge Igbo population of 4million would do to all the other small settlements where they worked as slaves. It's well documented that Igbo slaves outnumber the number of indigenous folks where the worked in that axis.

Anyway, why do people who got to a location as slaves want to force their identity on those they met there? To know Igbos aren't indigenous to Delta - you just have to check the history of Onitsha. Onitsha folks just started embracing Igbo identity less than 50 years ago loool. Stop reaching loool.

Lol! This is comedy, only that it's dry.

we only gat one igbo tribe in nigeria and africa at large! Delta ibos are also blood lineage to s.east ibos, dont forget dat late Raph Uwechue waz president of ohanaizee-Ndigbo before he died... He was a great man and have love for all ndigbo's nd nigeria! I am from ogwashi-uku in aniocha south of delta state. Am'ma proud igbo man, i dnt decline my ethnic lineage. Even if some of d ibo dialect speaken by most deeper ones and others speak fluent dialects' we are still one ibo family... Greetings to:-> Anioma's, anambra, imo, enugu, porthacout, abia, ebonyi! Ana'm e kene un'u... Emesia

Igboid:


Lol! This is comedy, only that it's dry.

Nah, it is history lesson. Kicking the knowledge you need to learn lol.

Stop reaching. Ngozi123 for example is Igbo from Delta and she most likely descended from the Igbo slaves (it is nothing to be ashamed of). But there are also folks who are Bini descendants. And even Igala and a few Yoruba in the mix. So, why force Igbo on everyone from there?

Jwise4422:
we only gat one igbo tribe in nigeria and africa at large! Delta ibos are also blood lineage to s.east ibos, dont forget dat late Raph Uwechue waz president of ohanaizee-Ndigbo before he died... He was a great man and have love for all ndigbo's nd nigeria! I am from ogwashi-uku in aniocha south of delta state. Am'ma proud igbo man, i dnt decline my ethnic lineage. Even if some of d ibo dialect speaken by most deeper ones and others speak fluent dialects' we are still one ibo family... Greetings to:-> Anioma's, anambra, imo, enugu, porthacout, abia, ebonyi! Ana'm e kene un'u... Emesia

See the difference,

An Enu- ani is always proud of his Ibo/Igbo identity.

Nwanne dalu.

clefstone:
www.nairaland.com/1362294/abohs-delta-state-not-igbos

the above is my opinion as a 'delta igbo' man

attackgat:


Edo is not part of Biafra except for the Igbo speaking community of Igbanke. As for Urohbo,Itsekiri etc, they can stay back in Nigeria for all we care. What is more important for us Igbos is our kith and kin in Anioma and Igbanke (Igbo Akiri). The rest can stay in Nigeria and rot if it pleases them.

Una when the international community go ignore due to una extremely stingy and cunning ways. Make una leave Delta State and Edo.

clefstone:
www.nairaland.com/1362294/abohs-delta-state-not-igbos

You were well and roundly educated on that thread by SEners and even an Aboh man that was invited to that thread.

So, after these years, you are yet to repent?

supersystems:


Typical Nigerian fast to critic i didnt oppose the topic i made adjustments

1. Aniomas are good people

2. Other tribes dont see them as outcasts


Majority of my aged friends are Anioma Ibusa How have i offended you ?

i gues u commented before refering to the post,
the op is talking about d fallacy of discrepancies that was used against the igbo to disunite them as a post-war vices.
when the government want to obtain from them;they are called IGBOS but when the goin is bad dey are reminded of not being igbo as against their bloodline.
he was calling on oda deltans,and declaring his originality.
just as all of them from fulani are called fulaniz not minding the state,likewise Hausa and yoruba.••
my footnote there are more viewership on topics here on NL dan doz commenting . ihope u undstand

Nahwao....chei.

I agree sha, but why did we pay the price for crimes committed by the head coup plotters from over 50 years ago, namely Nzeogwu from Asaba and Ifeajuna from Onitsha, who were not even Igbos?

May the blood of wrongly killed Igbo pogrom victims plus Biafran people of the SE haunt the SS, Aniomas, the SW, and the North until every dead person is equally avenged in kind from those other regions.

Amin!

Shym3xx:


Lol. You sound like an illiterate. And it seems you have a fundamental problem with English language. Especially reading and comprehension.

Everything I posted on this thread has been pretty much clear and straightforward. Igbos aren't indigenous to Delta. They got there as slaves, just as they were slaves everywhere in Rivers, all the way to a place called Bonny and where Jaja of Opobo ruled.

Those tribal settlement weren't that big back then and it was easy for the Igbo slaves to dominate them in terms of population. And everything is well documented. The population of the Itsekiris back then was about 10,000-20,000. The Urhobos weren't even more than 100,000. Now imagine what the huge Igbo population of 4million would do to all the other small settlements where they worked as slaves. It's well documented that Igbo slaves outnumber the number of indigenous folks where the worked in that axis.

Anyway, why do people who got to a location as slaves want to force their identity on those they met there? To know Igbos aren't indigenous to Delta - you just have to check the history of Onitsha. Onitsha folks just started embracing Igbo identity less than 50 years ago loool. Stop reaching loool.

Shym3xx:


Nah, it is history lesson. Kicking the knowledge you need to learn lol.

Stop reaching. Ngozi123 for example is Igbo from Delta and she most likely descended from the Igbo slaves (it is nothing to be ashamed of). But there are also folks who are Bini descendants. And even Igala and a few Yoruba in the mix. So, why force Igbo on everyone from there?

Where did I say that I'm from Delta State? If you knew anything about my family history then you wouldn't dare call me the descendant of a slave. Stop concerning yourself in topics that do not concern you. Thank you kindly .

You wanted my attention and now you have it.

chimaobinelson:

i gues u commented before refering to the post,
the op is talking about d fallacy of discrepancies that was used against the igbo to disunite them as a post-war vices.
when the government want to obtain from them;they are called IGBOS but when the goin is bad dey are reminded of not being igbo as against their bloodline.
he was calling on oda deltans,and declaring his originality.
just as all of them from fulani are called fulaniz not minding the state,likewise Hausa and yoruba.••
my footnote there are more viewership on topics here on NL dan doz commenting . ihope u undstand

Thanks i can read.

I know what the op implied beyond writing and i know what i meant. Aniomas who read me that have deep understanding of issues understand what i meant aswell.

Thanks again.

LeFreakSoChic:


Shut up you dirty girl. Look at your armpit like a coal pot. Even with this blinding filter, you are still ugly as hell with your African hairline that you keep 'flattening' with cheap gel.
Look at the section you visit the most... Romance!
Expecting you to contribute intelligently is like asking you to stop begging for recharge cards. Cover up your dirty self and go back to being silly!

are you dumb or you are just plain stupid.. you think you can come at me tryna sound all tough right..at least I posted my picture but you didn't even have the balls to show your ugly ape like face and for your info I'm prettier than your entire lineage..you tried so hard to make sense in your comment but you couldn't,do you know why? its cos you're a certified dumb ass you demented idiot. and least I forget I'm proud of my African hairline cos I'm African and a proud one at that and keep your stupid gel comment to yourself cos I don't even do makeup not to talk of gel,I don't need it...ugly bitches like you are the ones that come at a pretty girl out of spite and jealousy,useless frustrated ape.

papparatzzi2013:


Revisionist. Yorubas in Togo are not slaves. Yorubas never lost any war.

We conquered the Ewe and Fons in Benin Republic and Togo, down to the Ashanti Kingdom of Ghana.

They were all paying tributaries to Alaafin, the Emperor of that time and all conquered lands made yoruba language their official language.

Don't twist history. The Oyo kingdom mainly defeated Dahomey, the latter of which became a tributary to the Oyo kingdom, paying yearly dues to them until Dahomey revolted and broke few after a few years and launched reverse attacks on Nago-speaking villages. Oyo leadership over Dahomey did not last too long. Precisely, Nago villages (as Yoruba was not known then, but Anago or Nago), such as Ketu were emptied as Dahomey women warriors attacked the village by night, burned the entire village, killed so many people and the entire rest (about 20,000 Ketus) were sold off as slaves to the portuguese. It is said that this resulted in the loss of the practice of Orisa Ossosi (called Orixa Ochosi in Lacumi in Brazil) as the people who knew the rites and practice were decimated. The entire Ketu village fell into the hands of Dahomey Women warriors or Amazons effortlessly.

The Dahomey people also conquered other villages as well.

[quote author=olureignforever post=49387910][/quote]lol,that's all you gat??..wasn't expecting much from you tho for obvious reasons

Igboid:


You were well and roundly educated on that thread by SEners and even an Aboh man that was invited to that thread.

So, after these years, you are yet to repent?

after these years I'm still who I am; an Aboh man

She must think she's a perfect 5'9 model with ideal body proportions, a perfect flawless beautiful face, on point hair 100% of the time, and a million dollar designer wardrobe.

Don't mind the idiot insulting others while hiding her ugly omo alata face.

You are pretty. How far?

realkingqueen:
are you dumb or you are just plain stupid.. you think you can come at me tryna sound all tough right..at least I posted my picture but you didn't even have the balls to show your ugly ape like face and for your info I'm prettier than your entire lineage..you tried so hard to make sense in your comment but you couldn't,do you know why? its cos you're a certified dumb ass you demented idiot. and least I forget I'm proud of my African hairline cos I'm African and a proud one at that and keep your stupid gel comment to yourself cos I don't even do makeup not to talk of gel,I don't need it...ugly bitches like you are the ones that come at a pretty girl out of spite and jealousy,useless frustrated ape.

Ngozi123.

Nice submissions from you. Dalu.

To add to what you wrote. Not all Bini surnames in Anioma means that the bearers ancestors were Bini. That is usually a mistake many make.

In the pre colonial days, Bini empire was strong and it's influence extended over the Western Igbo area and Eastern Yorubaland.

Bini was seen as royalty and many non Bini people voluntarily took on Bini sounding names to curry favour from Bini.

Example can be seen from the list of the names of Ugbodu Kings:

Adeola,
Aderemi,
Ariyo,
Odofin;
Adetunji,
Oyetunji,
Ogbomon,


Ozoluwa,
Izebuwa,
Ogbelaka,
Izedomen
, Osakpalor,
Esigie,
Igbinadolor,
Osalohua,
Osamewanmen,
Ebor,


Dike,
Ochei,
Ezenwani,
Isinyemeze.


Ugbodu people are Yoruba speaking people that migrated into Anioma from Ondo area.
Notice how the names of their kings were initially Yoruba when they arrived the Anioma area, and gradually turned to Edo coinciding with the period of Edo renaissance and when Bini empire was at it's peak.

These kings were still Olukumi speaking and descendants of the ones with Yoruba names, but took on Edo names to curry favour from Bini empire.

When Bini empire fell, the Igbo renaissance started, the Igbo Union grew in leaps and bounds, so the Olukumi speaking Ugbodu kings started borrowing the Igbo names of their Enu-ani neighbors, and this had continued till today, as Anioma continues to evolve into an Igbo enclave.

But notice in all these evolution, the Ugbodu Olukumi Yoruboid language had remained, indicating that language is a better indicator of true origin than names.

Igbo speaking Anioma clans have no other language other their Igbo dialects, indicating Igbo origin, despite many Bini sounding names acquired voluntarily or by force during Bini empire renaissance or during their stay in Bini.

Nkem4040:
Yorubba I hope you are reading? Stop dividing us; that's his message!

Shut da fucķ up
Nobody wants to associate himself with miscreants. The DELTA IGBOS THEMSELVES SINGKED THEMSELVES OUT.
Remember what you people even call yourselves, I meam the Enugu, delta and others.
THERE WILL NEVER BE UNITY AMONGST YOU PEOPLE

clefstone:
after these years I'm still who I am; an Aboh man

No problem. Perhaps your children can go one step better than you, by not just stopping at being an Aboh man, but by being Ukwuani/Ndokwa too, and then Igbo.

Why are you wasting your time?

Nigerians owe Igbos reparations for being killed in mass numbers over acts perpretrated by Niger Deltans, Yorubas and Aniomas.

Simple. This is a fact that I don't care to hide anymore.

Igboid:
Ngozi123.

Nice submissions from you. Dalu.

To add to what you wrote. Not all Bini surnames in Anioma means that the bearers ancestor was Bini. That is usually a mistake many make.

In the pre colonial days, Bini empire was strong and it's influence extended over the Western Igbo area and Eastern Yorubaland.

Bini was seen as royalty and man non Bini people voluntarily took on Bini sounding names to curry favour from Bini.

Example can be seen from the list of the names of Ugbodu Kings:
Adeola,
Aderemi,
Ariyo,
Odofin;
Adetunji,
Oyetunji,
Ogbomon,


Ozoluwa,
Izebuwa,
Ogbelaka,
Izedomen
, Osakpalor,
Esigie,
Igbinadolor,
Osalohua,
Osamewanmen,
Ebor,


Dike,
Ochei,
Ezenwani,
Isinyemeze.


Ugbodu people are Yoruba speaking people that migrated into Anioma from Ondo area.
Notice how the names of their kinds were initially Yoruba when they arrived the Anioma area, and gradually turned to Edo coinciding with the period of Edo renaissance and when Bini empire was at it's peak.

These kings were still Olukumi speaking and descendants of the ones with Yoruba names, but took on Edo names to curry favour from Bini empire.

When Bini empire fell, the Igbo renaissance started, the Igbo Union grew in leaps and bounds, so the Olukumi speaking Ugbodu kings started borrowing the Igbo names of their Enu-ani neighbors, and this had continued till today, as Anioma continues to evolve into an Igbo enclave.

But notice in all these evolution, the Ugbodu Olukumi Yoruboid language had remained, indicating that language is a better indicator of true origin than names.

Igbo speaking Anioma clans has other language other their Igbo dialects, indicating Igbo origin, despite many Bini sounding names acquired during Bini empire renaissance or during their stay in Bini.

Nahwao:
Why are you wasting your time?

Nigerians owe Igbos reparations for being killed in mass numbers over acts perpretrated by Niger Deltans, Yorubas and Aniomas.

Simple. This is a fact that I don't care to hide anymore.

That's what Arewa-Odua people want us to do.

They want us to keep fighting each other, while they rob us all.
A divided house can't stand against its common enemy.
Don't play into their game.

We still have Anioma people even from Ika and Ukwuani, who would defend Igboland with the last drop of blood in their body.

Rein in your anger. It's easy to be angry , but to be angry at the right persons and at the right time, is hard.

Dalu.

If you are on facebook, join us at Proudly Anioma Proudly Igbo Facebook page, to meet many Anioma people that are still holding forte.

Igwe Bu ike, and our enemies know this well.

The Edo descendants found among Delta Igbos were escorts while the major migrants from Benin kingdom were Igbos. At the peak of Benin kingdom most tribes that inhabited the lower Niger migrated en mass to Benin for so many reasons including recruitment into Benin army as mercenary fighters. Odogwu was one of the most popular Igbo men of old that ventured into Benin as a soldier but later left back to Igboland after many victories. The ancient Benin had Yoruba, Igala, Igbo and Ijaw as parts of the population and at a stage during the reign of a man Igbos know as "Obu aru" that Benin was in turmoil in a war Igbos call "Agha Idu n'Oba" the non-Binis left Benin in droves heading back home and in the process establishing settlements on their way back. Most Delta Igbos are descendants of Igbos that left Benin Kingdom heading back to East while Ijaws equally did same. It is easily verifiable by pattern of settlement, language and basic culture. The migrants adopted Benin styled leadership structure and felt superior to their untraveled brothers that were still naive.

There are also some Felta Igbos that never reached Benin but were already settled before those from Benin came to meet them. They are those in Aniocha and Oshimili whom some Benin returnees settled among establishing Benin like micro kingdoms.

Ngozi123:


Where did I say that I'm from Delta State? If you knew anything about my family history then you wouldn't dare call me the descendant of a slave. Stop concerning yourself in topics that do not concern you. Thank you kindly .

You wanted my attention and now you have it.

Lol. My bad. But posted this on the first page:

Ngozi123:

As someone who actually has ancestral ties to the Aniomas in Delta State, I will politely ask you to refrain from saying things that you have little understanding about. My people have also been accused, by some, of being descendents of the Bini people but that is not true. There is a difference between having a significant amount of Bini blood and being influenced by Bini culture due to living under the now defunct Benin Kingdom. What we witness today in Anioma and Onitsha and its environs is the result of a 'reverse migration'.

There's nothing to be ashamed of if you're a descendant of Igbo slaves. At that point in history, despite the fact that Igbos had a huge population - they all lived separately in different hamlets in the forest, hence it was easy for just anyone with a decent army to raid anywhere in Igboland and capture as many slaves as possible.

Anyway, I only came to post a comment on the thread based on my relations. But ya brothers dragged me into it like they always do, due to emotional impulses and their effeminate temperament. Hence I decided to wear the history tutor jacket I took off time ago, to give them a proper history lesson lool. Apart from my Itsekiri cousins - I don't care for Delta. Hopefully, they ingested the knowledge I kicked on this thread in good faith.

Before the Nigeria-biafra war, all people in the then Eastern region (southeast, south-south) and a great portion of the Midwest region considered themselves unified, however separation arose after the war when the regions where split

I would like to state that to an average Hausa man, Yoruba man or even a middlebeltan, southeast and south south remain the same, during the 2011 election igbos lost their property and lives for Jonathan, if another war were to Break the southeast and south-south would still be in most cases viewed as a single body so let's argue and fight but still keep in mind that we are brothers and in times of war stand together

cremedelacreme:
Nice write up. Igbo is Igbo. From Igbanke to Ihiala, Ahoada to Arochukwu, Oguta to Oba, Ezza to Etche. there is nothing like ''Delta Igbo'' or ''Main Igbo'.


Meanwhile....

bro I dnt tink u should classify igbanke as Igbo also.. i'm from igbanke and we speak differently frm the igbos...I understand very little frm what they speak

cyrilamx:
How we they mind your business when you guys are invading their lands daily like colony of bees? How will the descendants of Uthman dan Fodio mind their business when you so much detest them yet thrive in their lands? These people accommodate you, letting you have the economic power in their communities yet you turn around and hit them below the belt. They will let u alone when you seize to have "Eze ndi' gbo' on their soil. What you can't tolerate don't try to force it on others.

I'm sure you're not new to people residing in different states or countries that are not their states or countries.. so why is it that an Igbo person residing in Lagos is an issue?? and when you say disrespect,how do we disrespect them?? cos the typical Igbo man I know wakes up in the morning,goes to his business place and comes back,that's all they do,so what is the problem??are they the first to accommodate people,what's all the fuse about,matter of fact Yoruba people are also in Igbo lands and no one is asking them to go back to their states every now and then,my dads house in the village is presently occupied by a Yoruba man and his family,he relocated to our place since 2013 when he got a job offer and he wasn't financially prepared and he asked my dad for help and my dad gave him the keys to a part of our house in the village and he has been staying there without paying a dime but all the Igbo's here are paying rent..and we thrive in their land cos we are hardworking people,we thrive anywhere we find ourselves not just here and I think that's the reason why we have so much people hating on us and least I forget we don't detest yorubas,we put our strenght into hard work,we don't have the strength to hate on yorubas cos you know it takes so much strength to hate on someone.

I have come to realize that anything Igbo generates a lot of traffic here on nairaland

Abagworo:
The Edo descendants found among Delta Igbos were escorts while the major migrants from Benin kingdom were Igbos. At the peak of Benin kingdom most tribes that inhabited the lower Niger migrated en mass to Benin for so many reasons including recruitment into Benin army as mercenary fighters. Odogwu was one of the most popular Igbo men of old that ventured into Benin as a soldier but later left back to Igboland after many victories. The ancient Benin had Yoruba, Igala, Igbo and Ijaw as parts of the population and at a stage during the reign of a man Igbos know as "Obu aru" that Benin was in turmoil in a war Igbos call "Agha Idu n'Oba" the non-Binis left Benin in droves heading back home and in the process establishing settlements on their way back. Most Delta Igbos are descendants of Igbos that left Benin Kingdom heading back to East while Ijaws equally did same. It is easily verifiable by pattern of settlement, language and basic culture. The migrants adopted Benin styled leadership structure and felt superior to their untraveled brothers that were still naive.

There are also some Felta Igbos that never reached Benin but were already settled before those from Benin came to meet them. They are those in Aniocha and Oshimili whom some Benin returnees settled among establishing Benin like micro kingdoms.

Now, this is a rational analysis.