bigfrancis21:


To the best of my knowledge, the passage rite I know in Igbo culture is the one for transition from a child to a young lady, called 'iru mgbede' in Igbo. I would want to assume you know have an idea already, if not I could tell you what I know.

I know bits and bobs from what my mother and maternal grandmother have told me, unfortunately, my paternal grandmother died when I was very young, but I would like to know more about the subject. All I can remember my mum and grandmother telling me is that when a girl sees her period for the first time, she's then acknowledged as a woman and her mother makes a feast for her or something to that extent. I can't remember the rest of what they told me but I don't think that it was much more than that tbh. I would very much appreciate it if you could share your knowledge with me.

Thanks in advance.

Nigeria’s Booming Film Industry Redefines African Life -- New York Times

ASABA, Nigeria — Sitting on a blue plastic stool in the sweltering heat, Ugezu J. Ugezu, one of Nigeria’s top filmmakers, was furiously rewriting his script as the cameras prepared to roll. “Cut!” he shouted after wrapping up a key scene, a confrontation between the two leading characters. Then, under his breath, he added, “Good as it gets.”

This was the seventh — and last — day of shooting in a village near here for “Beyond the Dance,” Mr. Ugezu’s story of an African prince’s choice of a bride, and the production had been conducted at a breakneck pace.

“In Nollywood, you don’t waste time,” he said. “It’s not the technical depth that has made our films so popular. It’s because of the story. We tell African stories.”

The stories told by Nigeria’s booming film industry, known as Nollywood, have emerged as a cultural phenomenon across Africa, the vanguard of the country’s growing influence across the continent in music, comedy, fashion and even religion.

Nigeria, Africa’s most populous nation, overtook its rival, South Africa, as the continent’s largest economy two years ago, thanks in part to the film industry’s explosive growth. Nollywood — a term I helped coin with a 2002 article when Nigeria’s movies were just starting to gain popularity outside the country — is an expression of boundless Nigerian entrepreneurialism and the nation’s self-perception as the natural leader of Africa, the one destined to speak on the continent’s behalf.

“The Nigerian movies are very, very popular in Tanzania, and, culturally, they’ve affected a lot of people,” said Songa wa Songa, a Tanzanian journalist. “A lot of people now speak with a Nigerian accent here very well thanks to Nollywood. Nigerians have succeeded through Nollywood to export who they are, their culture, their lifestyle, everything.”

Nollywood generates about 2,500 movies a year, making it the second-biggest producer after Bollywood in India, and its films have displaced American, Indian and Chinese ones on the televisions that are ubiquitous in bars, hair salons, airport lounges and homes across Africa.


The industry employs a million people — second only to farming — in Nigeria, pumping $600 million annually into the national economy, according to a 2014 report by the United States International Trade Commission. In 2002, it made 400 movies and $45 million.

Nollywood resonates across Africa with its stories of a precolonial past and of a present caught between village life and urban modernity. The movies explore the tensions between the individual and extended families, between the draw of urban life and the pull of the village, between Christianity and traditional beliefs. For countless people, in a place long shaped by outsiders, Nollywood is redefining the African experience.

“I doubt that a white person, a European or American, can appreciate Nollywood movies the way an African can,” said Katsuva Ngoloma, a linguist at the University of Lubumbashi in the Democratic Republic of Congo who has written about Nollywood’s significance. “But Africans — the rich, the poor, everyone — will see themselves in those movies in one way or another.”

In Yeoville, a neighborhood in Johannesburg that is a melting pot for migrants, a seamstress from Ghana took orders one recent morning for the latest fashions seen in Nollywood movies. Hairstylists from the Democratic Republic of Congo, Mozambique and Zimbabwe, working in salons or on the street, offered hair weaves following the styles favored by Nollywood actresses.

“Nigerian movies express how we live as Africans, what we experience in our everyday lives, things like witchcraft, things like fighting between mother-in-laws and daughter-in-laws,” said Patience Moyo, 34, a Zimbabwean hair-braider. “When you watch the movies, you feel it is really happening. One way or another, it will touch your life somewhere.”


The whole village came out to watch filming in Igbuzor, in southeast Nigeria.

In Nollywood, though, movies are still financed by private investors expecting a profit.

“You want to do a movie? You have the script? You look immediately for the money and you shoot,” said Mahmood Ali-Balogun, a leading Nigerian filmmaker. “When you get a grant from France or the E.U., they can dictate to you where to put your camera, the fine-tuning of your script. It’s not a good model for us in Africa.”

Mr. Ali-Balogun was speaking from his office in Surulere, Lagos, the birthplace of Nollywood. Film production has since moved to other cities, especially Asaba, an otherwise sleepy state capital in southeastern Nigeria. On any given day, a dozen crews can be found here — “epic” films with ancient story lines like “Beyond the Dance” are in the works in nearby villages, while “glamour” movies about modern life make the city itself their sets.

One recent entry in the glamour category was “Okada 50,” the story of a woman and son who, after leaving their village, open a coffin business in the city and terrorize their neighbors.

Most films have budgets of about $25,000 and are shot in a week.

Once completed in Asaba, the movies find their way to every corner of Africa, released in the original English, dubbed into French or African languages, and sometimes readapted, repackaged and often pirated for local audiences. Many movies are also propelled by a symbiotic relationship with Nigeria’s Pentecostal Christianity, which pastors have exported throughout Africa.


A film set in Illah, a village in southeastern Nigeria, where electricity generators are a necessity for movie production crews

[b]In the Democratic Republic of Congo, pastors who visited Nigeria years ago returned with videocassettes and showed the films in church to teach Christian lessons and attract new members, said Katrien Pype, a Belgian anthropologist at the University of Leuven who has written about the phenomenon.

Today in Kinshasa, the Congolese capital, Nollywood permeates mainstream culture. Local women copy the fashion, makeup and hairstyles of the actresses; local musicians grumble at the popularity of Nigerian imports, like Don Jazzy and the P-Square twins.

Trésor Baka, a Congolese dubber who translates Nollywood movies into the local language, Lingala, said the films are popular because “Nigeria has succeeded in reconciling modernity and their ancient ways, their culture and traditions.”

Nollywood has also created a model for movie production in other African nations, said Matthias Krings, a German expert on African popular culture at Johannes Gutenberg University.

In Kitwe, Zambia, local filmmakers were recently making their latest movie in true Nollywood style: a family melodrama shot over 10 days, in a private home, on a $7,000 budget. Burned onto DVD, the movie will be sold in Zambia and neighboring countries.
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Acknowledging the influence of Nigerian cinema, the movie’s producer, Morgan Mbulo, 36, said, “We can tell our own stories now.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/world/africa/with-a-boom-before-the-cameras-nigeria-redefines-african-life.html?_r=0

Ngozi123:


I know bits and bobs from what my mother and maternal grandmother have told me, unfortunately, my paternal grandmother died when I was very young, but I would like to know more about the subject. All I can remember my mum and grandmother telling me is that when a girl sees her period for the first time, she's then acknowledged as a woman and her mother makes a feast for her or something to that extent. I can't remember the rest of what they told me but I don't think that it was much more than that tbh. I would very much appreciate it if you could share your knowledge with me.

Thanks in advance.

Ohk, I found and posted an article a few posts back about Iru Mgbede and some other rites of passage in Igboland. Read and let me know what you think of it.

bigfrancis21:


I swear, no Igbo guy wants your dirty putrid goodness. Spare those lies for the gods. At the end of the day, Igbo guys look east for a wife. They marry their beautiful Nkechi, Chinyere, Adaugo, Adaora etc., majority who are consistent winners of ms Nigeria beauty contests and at the same time best graduating students in universities home and abroad? Igbo women effectively combine beauty and brains, both of which you do not even have. Why should any sensible Igbo guy leave their beautiful and intelligent damsels for some du.mb mgbeke hoe like you who cannot even speak English properly? You no reach half of my beautiful Igbo sisters jare. If you dare to prove me wrong, upload a picture of your aging face let the whole world see. Old hag. Stop consoling yourself unnecessarily. Akpa njo.

See this monkey, igbo intelligent beauties like Afrocandy and Cossy Orjiakor right? or those igbo girls with hairy chests and hairy yam legs?

No igbo girl can be more beautiful than the only Nigerian and first black African to win the miss world Agbani Darego (an Ijaw and proud SOUTH-SOUTH woman). WInning local beauty pageants alone are like a competition on which girl can sleep with more directors and producers and we all know that is where igbo girls specialize.

See Mercy Johnson, just one middlebelt girl in Igbo dominated nollywood and see the kind of fame she ate in nollywood and she set an example to all by being a wife, a mother and still a very succesful actress unlike people like Rita Dominic or Genevieve who are on international runs levels with no responsibility, spinsters at 40. I'll pass.

Go and ask your governor in Imo state why his father married a Jos woman.

bigfrancis21:


@bold...look who's calling a guy 'biitch' ...you see how du.mb and stu.pid you are? Even a primary 3 child knows that men do not go on heat, only females do. Rather, let me be the one telling you you are the one ranting all over this thread like a biitch on heat. Maybe after 7 days when your heat is over you'll come back to your senses. Du.mb hoe.

Here, let me educate you like a toddler on what bit.ch means. Numb.skull

What a wasted crude little illiterate savage, i used a comparative tense LIKE, u behave like a biitch hence the name also suits you too. Anything can be likened to anything in the world of languages. And when i mean languages i mean international languages not like the one you speak in Ohafia.
I can see that you are now empty, hence no direction on where to channel your lunacy.

bigfrancis21:
She has run away again as usual. Like a coward, she runs away when the heat is up and when everybody looks away she returns like she got game. Du.mb hoe.

Unlike you social miscreants, derelicts and scoundrels. I have a real everyday life and a very busy schedule. Am not a misguided street teenager like you touts, so i cannot be available here 24/7 for you to masturbate on my threads all the time.

bigfrancis21:


Ohk, I found and posted an article a few posts back about Iru Mgbede and some other rites of passage in Igboland. Read and let me know what you think of it.

Thanks, I've seen it now and will get back to you later today.

Edit:
@bigfrancis21

Thanks for the article. I found it very interesting and informative but it didn't specify which communities this rite of passage was performed in. I wonder, as it's a practice usually associated with the Efik ethnic group, is it only practiced by Igbos neighbouring Efik territories?

genieluv:


See this monkey, igbo intelligent beauties like Afrocandy and Cossy Orjiakor right? or those igbo girls with hairy chests and hairy yam legs?

No igbo girl can be more beautiful than the only Nigerian and first black African to win the miss world Agbani Darego (an Ijaw and proud SOUTH-SOUTH woman). WInning local beauty pageants alone are like a competition on which girl can sleep with more directors and producers and we all know that is where igbo girls specialize.

See Mercy Johnson, just one middlebelt girl in Igbo dominated nollywood and see the kind of fame she ate in nollywood and she set an example to all by being a wife, a mother and still a very succesful actress unlike people like Rita Dominic or Genevieve who are on international runs levels with no responsibility, spinsters at 40. I'll pass.

This woman, you are very stupid. Nollywood that recognizes talents of people and if you are talented they support you in your acting career. Nollywood made Mercy Johnson what she is. We took her in like one of our own, gave her roles to act, popularized her. Or you think she just 'dominated' on her own like that? Is that how st.upid you are? Mercy Johnson that even speaks fluent Igbo now just like a south easterner.

Once more, you see why your sense of reasoning is superficical. You think it is all about the actors you see on screen, as if actors are the major part of the movie industries. You barely know all the parts - directing, producing, sales, marketing etc. that make sure a movie is successful.

Nollywood can be likened to a company set up by one man, and he employs workers who work hard for the company and the company grows. The outside world sees and interacts with the workers who are the face of the company and in return the company recognizes the talents and hard work of its employees and pays them salaries, promotes them and whatnot but at the end of the day the ownership of the company remains with who? You go figure it out, that is if you can use google, du.mb hag.

@bold...and Rochas himself, unlike his father, married an Igbo woman.

Igbo women still remain 10 times as beautiful than you will ever be. Deal with that ugly hag.

genieluv:


Unlike you social miscreants, derelicts and scoundrels. I have a real everyday life and a very busy schedule. Am not a misguided street teenager like you touts, so i cannot be available here 24/7 for you to masturbate on my threads all the time.

Nah you have your aged hausa husband to take care off, now will you go and cook for him old hag.

jayrule:


All I see is rant and irrelevant dictions. Although, from the begining of the post, I saw you as a very reasonable entity. However, how you hurl insult on Ndi Igbo has lowered your standard into a very foul smelling sceptic tank.

First of all, Anioma is Igbo structurally (culturally and politically. In fact, historically!)
Secondly, you have no right to meddle in Igbo issues as your paternity refutes you from doing so!
And thirdly, let me go back to how reasonable you've been from the begining of the post. You talked about Unity between Ndi Igbo of the East and their Family west of the Niger (Ndi Igbo nke Anioma). This unity we are talking about predates us! It is there in historical documents; from Obi Ossai to Equianoh and from him to Obi Efeizomor. Ikechu1 has helped us out here so no need to refer you to any link or whatsoever.

I'm sorry if I have in anyway been insultive to you here. All my point is, dont come here and drag anioma on your head like it your personal property. Even because your claims to being a bonafide Anioma indigene is controversial. Thank you my lady. Have a blessed sunday.

And mind you, I'm no Biafran, I just want the Unity of Ani Ndi Igbo for this predates us. It helped us in the past. We were envied politically and in all aspect of our relevance and contributions to the development of this country in terms of intellectual resources!

Ok, we can always disagree to agree again, no strong feelings. We all have emotions as humans, i never intended to insult anyone on this thread, but when one person feels he has the monopoly of insults and strong words, we mete it to them in their measure.

From the beginning i was even trying to convince one igbanke girl to believe that our own people are very much related to Igbos even though we have some differences and issues, i gave her an example of my ex who is an ika man and a very proud igbo man for her to kno that not all ikas are denying igbo identity, but all i got was insults from some crude individuals of which i think you are not different cos you insulted me in the begining of this post and now later apologizing, so which one do i take? Double standardness is for only unstable individuals.
So, define where you stand, if you want us to engage in a conversation as civilized individuals, am all your honey, and if you want it in an insultive manner, i can be your nightmare.

genieluv:


What a wasted crude little illiterate savage, i used a comparative tense LIKE, u behave like a biitch hence the name also suits you too. Anything can be likened to anything in the world of languages. And when i mean languages i mean international languages not like the one you speak in Ohafia.
I can see that you are now empty, hence no direction on where to channel your lunacy.

You are the biitch here ranting since you went on heat 3 days ago...ma'am when is your heat cycle ending?

genieluv:


Ok, we can always disagree to agree again, no strong feelings. We all have emotions as humans, i never intended to insult anyone on this thread, but when one person feels he has the monopoly of insults and strong words, we mete it to them in their measure.

From the beginning i was even trying to convince one igbanke girl to believe that our own people are very much related to Igbos even though we have some differences and issues, i gave her an example of my ex who is an ika man and a very proud igbo man for her to kno that not all ikas are denying igbo identity, but all i got was insults from some crude individuals of which i think you are not different cos you insulted me in the begining of this post and now later apologizing, so which one do i take? Double standardness is for only unstable individuals.
So, define where you stand, if you want us to engage in a conversation as civilized individuals, am all your honey, and if you want it in an insultive manner, i can be your nightmare.

Very cheap and du.mb hoe...giving it up easily to any Tom, D!ck and Harry for free.

genieluv:


Ok, we can always disagree to agree again, no strong feelings. We all have emotions as humans, i never intended to insult anyone on this thread, but when one person feels he has the monopoly of insults and strong words, we mete it to them in their measure.

From the beginning i was even trying to convince one igbanke girl to believe that our own people are very much related to Igbos even though we have some differences and issues, i gave her an example of my ex who is an ika man and a very proud igbo man for her to kno that not all ikas are denying igbo identity, but all i got was insults from some crude individuals of which i think you are not different cos you insulted me in the begining of this post and now later apologizing, so which one do i take? Double standardness is for only unstable individuals.
So, define where you stand, if you want us to engage in a conversation as civilized individuals, am all your honey, and if you want it in an insultive manner, i can be your nightmare.

@bold...you are the one who started the insults on this thread, calling Igbos unprintable names and whatnot. Do not turn around now and act the 'victim'. You are burning in the same fire which you started and you have been paid back in your own coin.

jayrule:






Secondly, you have no right to meddle in Igbo issues as your paternity refutes you from doing so!
And thirdly, let me go back to how reasonable you've been from the begining of the post. You talked about Unity between Ndi Igbo of the East and their Family west of the Niger (Ndi Igbo nke Anioma). This unity we are talking about predates us! It is there in historical documents; from Obi Ossai to Equianoh and from him to Obi Efeizomor. Ikechu1 has helped us out here so no need to refer you to any link or whatsoever.

I'm sorry if I have in anyway been insultive to you here. All my point is, dont come here and drag anioma on your head like it your personal property. Even because your claims to being a bonafide Anioma indigene is controversial. Thank you my lady. Have a blessed sunday.

And mind you, I'm no Biafran, I just want the Unity of Ani Ndi Igbo for this predates us. It helped us in the past. We were envied politically and in all aspect of our relevance and contributions to the development of this country in terms of intellectual resources!

Just to set the fact straight because afterall you seem somehow reasonable, am a product of 2 heritage. My mother was born and bred in Anioma land, her own mother is anioma too but her father is from Benue, this is why i consider my mother more of an Anioma woman because she speaks the language more and behaves more like one and even considers herself one. My mother gave birth to me for an Anioma man before she relocated with her father back to Benue taking me along and married an Idoma man who became my stepfather and they resided in Jos, as i approached my mid teenage age i went back to Ubulu uku and re-united with my biological father. So you can see that i am very much an Anioma woman, just that i spent more of my life in the middlebelt. I understand Enuani, Idoma and Hausa to a fair extent. You must not believe me since you have a right on what to believe.


Let me tell you something about Anioma, by origin, we are a blend of different groups, according to what i researched and what my elderly uncle and father told me, that Anioma people are a blend of different groups, some came from Bini, others came from Igbo, Esan, Igala and Yoruba and that is why we bear influences and cultures from all these areas. We became linguistically Ibo overtime due to the strength of continous Nri migrations and the population of our igbo neighbours across the Niger and also colonialism too.

For instance, Itsekiris are just like us too, their nation was formed by the merge of yoruba and Benin migrant groups, overtime the yoruba dialect displaced the bini dialects due to the largeness of yoruba speakers around them but their political and kingship structures remained Bini and this is why they maintained their new identity Itsekiri but still maintain relationship with both yorubas and binis.

You can say Aniomas are linguistically Ibo, but structurally and culturally we are a mix while politically and in kingship affairs we are bini, can't you see the way our kings dress and the way they are coronated? Many of our kingship titles are Benin, just like the recent new 'teenage' king of my town Ubulu Uku, who went to Benin to perform many rites before he was crowned king. Our people have some very strong ties to Benin which we cannot throw away just because we want to be Igbo, this is why many of our people just find it hard to completely accept igbo identity. Till today most of our kings must go to Benin and perform rites before they become king.

genieluv:


See this monkey, igbo intelligent beauties like Afrocandy and Cossy Orjiakor right? or those igbo girls with hairy chests and hairy yam legs?

No igbo girl can be more beautiful than the only Nigerian and first black African to win the miss world Agbani Darego (an Ijaw and proud SOUTH-SOUTH woman).

Agbani Darego? A Kalabari? People who are known to serially marry Igbo women from time immemorial?

bigfrancis21:


@bold...you are the one who started the insults on this thrad, calling Igbos unprintable names and whatnot. Do not turn around now and act the 'victim'. You are burning in the same fire which you started and you have been paid back in your own coin.

You are blind. That fellow started using harsh words on me just because i said that there are certain attitudes igbos posses that Anioma people do not. He insulted me to list the attitudes out and all i did was say that many igbos have a pompous, proud, boastful and arrogant disposition, how is that insultive? I only stated my opinion and that of many anioma people and even mkst Nigerians, they will all tell you that is how igbos are. Even the guy himself did not dispute all that i said, he was trying to justify these dispositions of igbos. So pls learn to follow a thread as a civilized and cultured individual paying attention to every detail.

bigfrancis21:


Very cheap and du.mb hoe...giving it up easily to any Tom, D!ck and Harry for free.

Well, am not as cheap as your sisters. Am just a friendly person who can be extremely friendly and open to friendly people (my middlebelt heritage i guess). Ask all Nigerians they can testify that middlebelters are the friendliest group of Nigerians, this is why you see Nigerians from all ethnic groups calling a place like Jos home when Jos was never the capital of the country or very politically significant.
Everyone must not be a child of hate like you Igbos. We were not conceived by hatred! That is why u see no group of Nigerians hate middlebelters or Niger deltans.

genieluv:


Just to set the fact straight because afterall you seem somehow reasonable, am a product of 2 heritage. My mother was born and bred in Anioma land, her own mother is anioma too but her father is from Benue, this is why i consider my mother more of an Anioma woman because she speaks the language more and behaves more like one and even considers herself one. My mother gave birth to me for an Anioma man before she relocated with her father back to Benue taking me along and married an Idoma man who became my stepfather and they resided in Jos, as i approached my mid teenage age i went back to Ubulu uku and re-united with my biological father. So you can see that i am very much an Anioma woman, just that i spent more of my life in the middlebelt. I understand Enuani, Idoma and Hausa to a fair extent. You must not believe me since you have a right on what to believe.


Let me tell you something about Anioma, by origin, we are a blend of different groups, according to what i researched and what my elderly uncle and father told me, that Anioma people are a blend of different groups, some came from Bini, others came from Igbo, Esan, Igala and Yoruba and that is why we bear influences and cultures from all these areas. We became linguistically Ibo overtime due to the strength of continous Nri migrations and the population of our igbo neighbours across the Niger and also colonialism too.

For instance, Itsekiris are just like us too, their nation was formed by the merge of yoruba and Benin migrant groups, overtime the yoruba dialect displaced the bini dialects due to the largeness of yoruba speakers around them but their political and kingship structures remained Bini and this is why they maintained their new identity Itsekiri but still maintain relationship with both yorubas and binis.

You can say Aniomas are linguistically Ibo, but structurally and culturally we are a mix while politically and in kingship affairs we are bini, can't you see the way our kings dress and the way they are coronated? Many of our kingship titles are Benin, just like the recent new 'teenage' king of my town Ubulu Uku, who went to Benin to perform many rites before he was crowned king. Our people have some very strong ties to Benin which we cannot throw away just because we want to be Igbo, this is why many of our people just find it hard to completely accept igbo identity. Till today most of our kings must go to Benin and perform rites before they become king.

Now the truth is coming out. You have been pummeled into revealing the truth, well clap for yourself.

Since you have finally decided to become sober, I'll treat you as one.

Well know this, no tribe in Africa is pure. You act like the whole of SE originated from the same place when we did not. No. SE itself is also not pure as we did not all come from one place, and some Igbo clans have heavy outside cultural influences such as the Nsukka, the Ohafia, etc. 'South East' is only but a recent zonal creation 30 years ago grouping a section of Igbo-speakers together into one zone. A LOT of transmigration occurred in the past. People, due to different reasons, often crossed boundaries and ventured into new linguistic groups and got assimilated into their new environments. In the past, African ethnic groups had no sense of collective ethnicity, and they only paid allegiance to their spoken dialects and villages. Thus, 100 years ago, an Nnewi man would tell you he is Nnewi, not Igbo. An Ngwa man would tell you he is Ngwa, an Aro man would tell you he is Aro, an Etche man would tell you he is Etche, the Asaba man would tell you he is Asaba and not Igbo etc. Delta Igboland is not any different from South East Igboland in that respect. Yorubaland too is not pure as some Nupes, Baribas, Hausas, defeated and captured war victims from Dahomey during the Oyo-Dahomey wars etc. were assimilated into Yorubaland but they are all Yorubas today.

Worldwide, races are not pure. The whites of America are not all descendants of England/britain. Between 1600 and early 20th century, the Irish, the French, the German etc. all settled in America (Donald Trump who is all loud about being white and against immigrants is actually German - his grandfather is a German who migrated to the US in the late 1800s), and they all make up the white race in America today. The people who identify as Black Americans today are made up of different origins or ethnic groups from Africa and also from Europe but today they are all united as one people - black americans.

So you need to understand that most tribes, ethnic groups etc. on earth are not pure, as they, in the past, assimilated other people into their groups. Do not act like that of Anioma is any different when it is the same for SE too. In fact, by virtue of your logic and the diverse origins of the SE people, SE can decide to coin up a name for themselves and follow that identity like Anioma but it does not make sense as it would lead to further disunity among ourselves.

Like someone here said earlier, instead of looking at the little differences in us, why not look at the similarities between us and unite. At the end of the day, people east and west of the Niger are more related to each other than West of the Niger and any other group in Nigeria or Africa. No Igbo clan is more Igbo than the other. We all know we may have originated from different places in the past, be it wherever, but 'Igbo' is simply a collection of people who speak dialectical variations of the same language. That's what it is.

Igbo bu ofu.

genieluv:


Well, am not as cheap as your sisters. Am just a friendly person who can be extremely friendly and open to friendly people (my middlebelt heritage i guess). Ask all Nigerians they can testify that middlebelters are the friendliest group of Nigerians, this is why you see Nigerians from all ethnic groups calling a place like Jos home when Jos was never the capital of the country or very politically significant.
Everyone must not be a child of hate like you Igbos. We were not conceived by hatred! That is why u see no group of Nigerians hate middlebelters or Niger deltans.

@bold...meaning that you are cheap after all like I said and I was right about you in the beginning!

Ok, I have heard you. Back to the topic of the thread.

genieluv:


See this monkey, igbo intelligent beauties like Afrocandy and Cossy Orjiakor right? or those igbo girls with hairy chests and hairy yam legs?

No igbo girl can be more beautiful than the only Nigerian and first black African to win the miss world Agbani Darego (an Ijaw and proud SOUTH-SOUTH woman). WInning local beauty pageants alone are like a competition on which girl can sleep with more directors and producers and we all know that is where igbo girls specialize.

See Mercy Johnson, just one middlebelt girl in Igbo dominated nollywood and see the kind of fame she ate in nollywood and she set an example to all by being a wife, a mother and still a very succesful actress unlike people like Rita Dominic or Genevieve who are on international runs levels with no responsibility, spinsters at 40. I'll pass.

Go and ask your governor in Imo state why his father married a Jos woman.

Don't mind that bigfrancis21 look at my thread trying to join Niger Delta to Biafra. Saying they will conquer Naija Delta is in Biafra map.

genieluv:


You are blind. That fellow started using harsh words on me just because i said that there are certain attitudes igbos posses that Anioma people do not. He insulted me to list the attitudes out and all i did was say that many igbos have a pompous, proud, boastful and arrogant disposition, how is that insultive? I only stated my opinion and that of many anioma people and even mkst Nigerians, they will all tell you that is how igbos are. Even the guy himself did not dispute all that i said, he was trying to justify these dispositions of igbos. So pls learn to follow a thread as a civilized and cultured individual paying attention to every detail.

@bold...well your initial stance against Igbos was that of hate and you were served back accordingly. In hindsight, do not think you can start a tirade of insults against a whole group of people and not expect a backlash. That is not how life works. It is that simple.

bigfrancis21:




This woman, you are very stupid. Nollywood that recognizes talents of people and if you are talented they llsupport you in your acting career. Nollywood made Mercy Johnson what she is. We took her in like one of our own, gave her roles to act, popularized her. Or you think she just 'dominated' on her own like that? Is that how st.upid you are? Mercy Johnson that even speaks fluent Igbo now just like a south easterner.

Once more, you see why your sense of reasoning is superficical. You think it is all about the actors you see on screen, as if actors are the major part of the movie industries. You barely know all the parts - directing, producing, sales, marketing etc. that make sure a movie is successful.

Nollywood can be likened to a company set up by one man, and he employ workers who work hard for the company and the company grows. The outside world sees and interacts with the workers who are the face of the company and in return the company recognizes the talents and hard work of its employees and pays them salaries, promotes them and whatnot but at the end of the day the ownership of the company remains with who? You go figure it out, that is if you can use google, du.mb hag.

@bold...and Rochas himself, unlike his father, married an Igbo woman.

Igbo women still remain 10 times as beautiful than you will ever be. Deal with that ugly hag.

Hah, Igbo producers made Mercy Johnson who she is? Did they also help her become a succesful wife and mother? After many children, see how hot and smoking mercy still looks, how many famous igbo actresses can manage that? Why did Igbo producers not also make the likes of Genevieve and Rita Dominic live an examplary lifestyle like Mercy? Face it you thug, virtues of a good woman can never be bought in a market, it is genetically passed down and culturally communicated!

But let's assume that Igbo directors made Mercy all she is, can we also assume that Plateau united football club made Mikel who he is? Since that was where he started to shine as a football star?
You can only get dumber by the day u little crude savage u.

bigfrancis21:




This woman, you are very stupid. Nollywood that recognizes talents of people and if you are talented they support you in your acting career. Nollywood made Mercy Johnson what she is. We took her in like one of our own, gave her roles to act, popularized her. Or you think she just 'dominated' on her own like that? Is that how st.upid you are? Mercy Johnson that even speaks fluent Igbo now just like a south easterner.

Once more, you see why your sense of reasoning is superficical. You think it is all about the actors you see on screen, as if actors are the major part of the movie industries. You barely know all the parts - directing, producing, sales, marketing etc. that make sure a movie is successful.

Nollywood can be likened to a company set up by one man, and he employ workers who work hard for the company and the company grows. The outside world sees and interacts with the workers who are the face of the company and in return the company recognizes the talents and hard work of its employees and pays them salaries, promotes them and whatnot but at the end of the day the ownership of the company remains with who? You go figure it out, that is if you can use google, du.mb hag.

@bold...and Rochas himself, unlike his father, married an Igbo woman.

Igbo women still remain 10 times as beautiful than you will ever be. Deal with that ugly hag.

U claim Igbo producers are heaven and earth, ok i accept, but all i ask is for you is to just name an international award which any of them has won. We all know that the movie industry all over Africa is a total mess and cannot stand where foreign movies are charting, it's still comimg up, so generally, expect crap to be sold all over africa in the name of movies afterall we have the population of dull individuals who will be willing to buy anything, but this cannot be said of our music industry because some of our musicians have won grammys, bet awards and all other international awards.

International awards do not lie, but any writer or journalist can write anything anywhere all over the world.

genieluv:


Hah, Igbo producers made Mercy Johnson who she is? Did they also help her become a succesful wife and mother? After many children, see how hot and smoking mercy still looks, how many famous igbo actresses can manage that? Why did Igbo producers not also make the likes of Genevieve and Rita Dominic live an examplary lifestyle like Mercy? Face it you thug, virtues of a good woman can never be bought in a market, it is genetically passed down and culturally communicated!

But let's assume that Igbo directors made Mercy all she is, can we also assume that Plateau united football club made Mikel who he is? Since that was where he started to shine as a football star?
You can only get dumber by the day u little crude savage u.

To be honest, you reason like a child. What concerns Mercy Johnson's marriage/private life with her acting or Nollywood? How do the 2 even link together? Isn't marriage supposed to be a private affair and decision by someone? If someone talented decides not to marry, isn't that their personal choice? Speaking of childbirth, isn't Genevieve Nnaji a mother of a 16 or 18 year old child yet she still looks like she is in her early 30s? What of Omotola Ekeinde? Despite having 4 children, she still looks as young as ever. Is it only Mercy Johnson? Oh, Mercy Johnson is now different because she is from middlebelt. I laugh at your stupidity. Your type will complain that the Nigerian society looks at unmarried women, regardless of their career, as underachievers yet here you are a fellow woman deriding Genevieve and Rita for their single status. Please woman, your line of reasoning and argument is getting absurd.

Yes, Nollywood made Mercy Johnson what she is. If she had not been given roles to act nobody would have known who she is anyway. She acted films and she got paid for her roles. The producers and directors gathered the scenes together, edited the scenes, produced the movies, advertised and sold the movies and made their money. It is business. It is what it is.

genieluv:


U claim Igbo producers are heaven and earth, ok i accept, but all i ask is for you is to just name an international award which any of them has won. We all know that the movie industry all over Africa is a total mess and cannot stand where foreign movies are charting, it's still comimg up, so generally, expect crap to be sold all over africa in the name of movies afterall we have the population of dull individuals who will be willing to buy anything, but this cannot be said of our music industry because some of our musicians have won grammys, bet awards and all other international awards.

International awards do not lie, but any writer or journalist can write anything anywhere all over the world.

The Nigerian music industry as of now cannot be said to be dominated by any tribe compared to 2 decades ago. Lagos is the center of the modern Nigerian music industry. A decade ago it would be correct to say the Yorubas dominated but the Igbos and other tribes have made tremendous advances in recent years and are gradually taking over, if we have not already. The richest or top musicians in the industry are Igbos. Many of the best and relevant music producers are Igbos. I do not want to sound like I am bragging but just reminding you in case you've let your Igbo hatred cloud your sense of reasoning.

Moreover, you think Nollywood is popular only in Africa? How about in the Caribbean and South America? You think Nollywood is on the same league as Kannywood? I laugh in Idoma.

Nollywood Beyond Nigeria

The spread of Nollywood is surprising to many critics and non-critics alike. As one writer Justine Atkinson writes, “Over the past two decades, Nollywood, the Nigerian film industry has become a cultural phenomenon attracting millions of viewers across Africa and the African Diaspora” (Atkinson). [b]One Nigerian journalist called Ekerete Udoh was shocked to see the many people that turned to Nollywood films for entertainment while traveling. He wrote an article about his journey titled From Mexico, The Bahamas to Jamaica: Nollywood is rebranding Nigeria. This is an excerpt from the article that was published in a popular Nigerian newspaper called ThisDayLive. “As I stated in the opening line of this piece, in the summer that just passed, I visited Cancun, Mexico, Ochio-Rios in Jamaica and Nassau, in The Bahamas. In all these countries that I visited, the majesty of the Nigerian pop culture was evident-from the man on the street of Run- Away Bay, Montego Bay to the woman in Cable Beach, Nassau, or the Mexican in Chit Itzen-Itza- in the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico, I was bombarded with questions about Nollywood and its star actors and actresses. In Jamaica, I was told over 90 percent of the population is hooked on Nollywood and that it is almost a religion, and I can testify to that. My newspaper-The Diasporan Star which has a huge dose of Nollywood content has thousands of readers from the Island of Jamaica. My last port of call was Nassau-the capital of the tourist haven-The Bahamas. As I went to the casino at the hotel I stayed in Cable Beach section of the city, most people I encountered, spoke glowingly about Nigeria and the power of its pop culture, especially Nollywood” (Udoh , 2012)[/b].

Many observers of Nollywood have written articles on why Nollywood is such a popular way of entertainment in the Caribbean. Phillip Cartlli, a freelance writer explored this subject in his article titled Nollywood comes to the Caribbean. This is an excerpt from the article. “Aside from their racial identities, Nigerians and the inhabitants of Anglophone Caribbean Islands share important religious and cultural similarities that derive from their common heritage and experience of slavery and British colonialism that, in the case of the latter, left them with a common language. In the rural Caribbean, traditional values frequently prevail in a way often similar to those in West Africa.” He concludes his article with, “Their popularity among people of African descent is recent and surprising and indicates the potential for this film genre to grow beyond its Nigerian and African base” (Cartelli, 2007).

http://affiwhitecontentproject.weebly.com/nollywood-beyond-nigeria.html

bigfrancis21:


genieluv, so you've taken your dementia to this level? You use one account to display your ignorance and you log in with the other to console yourself and praise yourself? Apparently, on one was liking your posts, except for some dirty hor.ny old male pig, so you decided to hide under your fake moniker to praise yourself like you got game. Du.mb hoe.

Who wants to partner up with a devil anyway who only knows hate and seeds of discord?

You are such a fake schizophrenic woman. Your writing styles for genieluv and spicyjosbabe are just the same and you are such a du.mb bi.at.ch that you could not effectively disguise yourself under this fake moniker. Old putrid hag. Lmao

dementia

genieluv:


U claim Igbo producers are heaven and earth, ok i accept, but all i ask is for you is to just name an international award which any of them has won. We all know that the movie industry all over Africa is a total mess and cannot stand where foreign movies are charting, it's still comimg up, so generally, expect crap to be sold all over africa in the name of movies afterall we have the population of dull individuals who will be willing to buy anything, but this cannot be said of our music industry because some of our musicians have won grammys, bet awards and all other international awards.

International awards do not lie, but any writer or journalist can write anything anywhere all over the world.

Since you could not use google to find the answers for yourself, here let me educate you on what you do not know.

OLIVER OSCAR MBAMARA

Filmmaker, Writer, Actor, Poet, & Attorney.

Background and Legal Career: Oliver Oscar Mbamara started writing and acting while pursuing a legal career in Nigeria before moving to the United States where he became a State Admin Judge, a position in which he has served for over fourteen years. Mr. Mbamara has been a long standing member of the Nigerian Lawyers Association (USA) and has served in various capacities for the association up to the level of the chairman of the board of directors.

Writing & Artistic Career: Oliver continued his writing and artistic career in the USA and has published a number of books on Poetry and Africa-themed essays. In 2001, he broke into American theater and entertainment circles with his lead role in the off-Broadway show – PRISONER OF KALAKIRI. He then returned to the big screen where he became one of the pioneering Nollywood filmmakers in the USA when he teamed with colleagues to make the ground breaking Nollywood film titled THIS AMERICA (2004) based on his novel that chronicled the conflicts and experiences of an African immigrant in America. He has since produced, directed, and acted lead roles in several feature films such as SLAVE WARRIOR , ON THE RUN AGAIN, and the SPADE MOVIES SERIES. One of his latest works is the creation of the pioneer African Diaspora TV series titled CULTURES. Oliver recently graduated from the New York Film Academy where he studied Filmmaking. He is the current president of the Nollywood Producers Guild, USA.

Publishing & Motivational Speaking: Oliver is the Publisher and Editor-in-Chief of the award-winning online magazine ww.AfricanEvents.com and continues to write and serve as a motivational speaker and commentator on life and living. He has delivered various papers at various public forums and conferences up to the United Nations. He is currently working on a number of books and other projects. For more on Oliver please visit www.OliverMbamara.com

Recognition: Some of Mr. Mbamara’s recent awards include:

2015 LANFA Legendary Movie Achievement Award USA
2014 Nigeria Centenary Achievement Award (NCAA) USA.
2013 Nigerian Sports & Cultural Award for “Contributions to the Nigerian Movie Industry.”
2012 GRIOTS Film Festival Recognition For “Dedication & Commitment to African Cinema”
2012 Nations of Pan Africa Best Movie Director Award
2012 NAFCA Best Cinematography Award.
2011 Nollywood USA “Legendary Achievement Award,”
2011 Nigerian Promoters Association (USA) “Best Movie Producer of the Year Award,”
2008 Afro Heritage Immigrant Award
2008 Afro-Hollywood USA Legendary Award
2002 International Poet of Merit Award

http://www.nollywoodproducersguildusa.com/no-profit-organization-oliver-oscar-mbamara

Those are tons of international awards won by just one producer.

bigfrancis21:


Now the truth is coming out. You have been pummeled into revealing the truth, well clap for yourself.

Since you have finally decided to become sober, I'll treat you as one.

Well know this, no tribe in Africa is pure. You act like the whole of SE originated from the same place when we did not. No. SE itself is also not pure as we did not all come from one place, and some Igbo clans have heavy outside cultural influences such as the Nsukka, the Ohafia, etc. 'South East' is only but a recent zonal creation 30 years ago grouping a section of Igbo-speakers together into one zone. A LOT of transmigration occurred in the past. People, due to different reasons, often crossed boundaries and ventured into new linguistic groups and got assimilated into their new environments. In the past, African ethnic groups had no sense of collective ethnicity, and they only paid allegiance to their spoken dialects and villages. Thus, 100 years ago, an Nnewi man would tell you he is Nnewi, not Igbo. An Ngwa man would tell you he is Ngwa, an Aro man would tell you he is Aro, an Etche man would tell you he is Etche, the Asaba man would tell you he is Asaba and not Igbo etc. Delta Igboland is not any different from South East Igboland in that respect. Yorubaland too is not pure as some Nupes, Baribas, Hausas, defeated and captured war victims from Dahomey during the Oyo-Dahomey wars etc. were assimilated into Yorubaland but they are all Yorubas today.

Worldwide, races are not pure. The whites of America are not all descendants of England/britain. Between 1600 and early 20th century, the Irish, the French, the German etc. all settled in America (Donald Trump who is all loud about being white and against immigrants is actually German - his grandfather is a German who migrated to the US in the late 1800s), and they all make up the white race in America today. The people who identify as Black Americans today are made up of different origins or ethnic groups from Africa and also from Europe but today they are all united as one people - black americans.

So you need to understand that most tribes, ethnic groups etc. on earth are not pure, as they, in the past, assimilated other people into their groups. Do not act like that of Anioma is any different when it is the same for SE too. In fact, by virtue of your logic and the diverse origins of the SE people, SE can decide to coin up a name for themselves and follow that identity like Anioma but it does not make sense as it would lead to further disunity among ourselves.

Like someone here said earlier, instead of looking at the little differences in us, why not look at the similarities between us and unite. At the end of the day, people east and west of the Niger are more related to each other than West of the Niger and any other group in Nigeria or Africa. No Igbo clan is more Igbo than the other. We all know we may have originated from different places in the past, be it wherever, but 'Igbo' is simply a collection of people who speak dialectical variations of the same language. That's what it is.

Igbo bu ofu.

You are the one missing everything here ok? The first chat u and i had here was not insultive, or do u want me to screenshot the posts here for u to prove u wrong?

The insults mostly started when Ikechu took all the time he had in the world to dig my profile and started ranting everywhere about my idoma ancestry forgetting that there are millions of Nigerians with dual and multiple ancestries and can fit into anyone of them or claim anyone at any time.

Now back 2d topic, it's not as if i don't understand all you are saying oo. I do. Benue people are very close to Nsukka for instance, so i know the igala origin of many of them but however, there are 2 reasons why this logic of 'we are all mixed' is failing in the Anioma axis.

1) For instance, from what i read, Ngwa people already had their well defined identity as Ngwa people before they started intermixing with Ibibios, Nsukka people already knew who they were before igalas started influencing and intermixing with them. But for Aniomas, the story is quite different, the aboriginal people on Anioma land were never known to have an identity of their own, let alone an Igbo identity before the Nri, Benin and Igala migrations started flooding into area.

There was no documented account anywhere to prove the original identity of the aborigines of Anioma land when the Nris and Edos got there. So, Anioma identity started forming almost at the same time when the Benin, Nri and Igala migrations started coming in, that is why you see in some Anioma towns the quarters with Bini origin are seen as the seniors and kingmakers, while in some others the quarters of Nri/Igbo origin are the seniors and kingmakers. In some other few towns, igala descendants take the lead. So that is where the problem comes.
The igbo descendants in Anioma land cannot claim to have come there before the Binis or Igalas according to history. Igbo descendants only got the advantage in terms of language as their language was stronger and displaced others.

^^^^^ The 2nd reason is that the colonial masters had a strong say in defining people's identity and politics too.

Politically Anioma has never shared one destiny with the Igbos. The colonialists created two large divides from the old Southern region and we were under the western region and from there to midwest region.
If Nsukka people probably for instance had been under old Benue-Plateau state were they were forced to relate with other middlebelt tribes, many of them would probably have been identifying as Nsukka people and some denying igbo identity.
Many Ilorin and Okun people deny being yorubas too, the only advantage these people have had politically is that the yoruba speakers were the majority in the old West central state which became Kwara state compared to the number of Egbirra, Igala or Nupe speakers and the capital had always been in Ilorin. And historically too, many of these indepemdent yoruba speaking kingdoms were under Oyo kingdom, hence have been heavily influenced by yoruba identity even before the Europeans came. So it is not really so strange for them to reconnect to yoruba identity even though they have a different political identity.

bigfrancis21:


To be honest, you reason like a child. What concerns Mercy Johnson's marriage/private life with her acting or Nollywood? How do the 2 even link together? Isn't marriage supposed to be a private affair and decision by someone? If someone talented decides not to marry, isn't that their personal choice? Speaking of childbirth, isn't Genevieve Nnaji a mother of a 16 or 18 year old child yet she still looks like she is in her early 30s? What of Omotola Ekeinde? Despite having 4 children, she still looks as young as ever. Is it only Mercy Johnson? Oh, Mercy Johnson is now different because she is from middlebelt. I laugh at your stupidity. Your type will complain that the Nigerian society looks at unmarried women, regardless of their career, as underachievers yet here you are a fellow woman deriding Genevieve and Rita for their single status. Please woman, your line of reasoning and argument is getting absurd.

Yes, Nollywood made Mercy Johnson what she is. If she had not been given roles to act nobody would have known who she is anyway. She acted films and she got paid for her roles. The producers and directors gathered the scenes together, edited the scenes, produced the movies, advertised and sold the movies and made their money. It is business. It is what it is.

Ok, now you are pained because you see in the whole large igbo land of the so called nollywood, none can set the example one like Mercy had set.
We are all Africans and our culture doesn't change, we know that a woman's success in Africa is not complete without a succesful marriage and being a mother and a wife with responsibilities.

Ok, i hope you accept too that Plateau united football club made Mikel who he is? Cos i see you were silent on this, or did you go to google and dig search with all your effort and strength on this fact too? LoL
Cos even the blind people on this thread can attest to the fact that you guys are 'commited googlers'. If challenged, you guys are ready to finish all your data subscription just to google one single fact out or dig through someone's profile. Ipob children of Nnamdi will never change.

The issue here is that you can only be Igbo from birth,to have Igbo DNA is not like acquiring a citizenship.We find it very difficult to understand how a grown man and woman from a different tribe fighting to be accepted in Igbo fora

genieluv:


Ok, now you are pained because you see in the whole large igbo land of the so called nollywood, none can set the example one like Mercy had set.
We are all Africans and our culture doesn't change, we know that a woman's success in Africa is not complete without a succesful marriage and being a mother and a wife with responsibilities.

Ok, i hope you accept too that Plateau united football club made Mikel who he is? Cos i see you were silent on this, or did you go to google and dig search with all your effort and strength on this fact too? LoL
Cos even the blind people on this thread can attest to the fact that you guys are commited googlers. If challenged, you guys are ready to finish all your data subscription just to google one single fact out or dig through someone's profile. Ipob children of Nnamdi will never change.

Lol. Arguing with you is like arguing with a child. Yes, plateau united football club made Mikel in his early formative years. Who is going to deny that. Unlike you I give credit to whom it is due. Same way Nollywood made Mercy Johnson who she is. She now even speaks Igbo fluently. Watch Baby Oku in America, for example.

As for your comment on googling, I would accept an article from google over anything that comes from you. You barely know the surface of Igbo history.