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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by honourhim: 5:36pm On Oct 16, 2016
EyeHateGod:
grin This religious folks are just dumb

Dumb man calling others dumb. Atheism is truly a stupid venture.

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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by bezimo(m): 5:38pm On Oct 16, 2016
From the response of some folks on this thread you can tell some folks have vowed to go to hell having embraced darkness and having their understanding darkened and alienated from the life of God as described in Ephesians.
Well, to believe Jesus Christ is a choice and not by force.The gate of mercy is still open for such folks and would soon be shut, at which time it would be too late.

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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by terrezo2002(m): 5:39pm On Oct 16, 2016
I have a hope in God. What is the hope of atheists?

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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by Nobody: 5:42pm On Oct 16, 2016
KardinalZik:


What a revelation!
So the point of atheists' arguments is to set Satan as God, right?
Well, congratulations on your disappointment...coz the throne of God can't be vested on anyone by any kingmaker.


Abeg go sit down one place. You don't know what you are talking about.
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by obinna58(m): 5:44pm On Oct 16, 2016
Their is magic in universe, human can create magic Human can create God but it requires sacrifice or energy to power it Christians think their is God in the sky which is a pure lie human made Bible in other to guide the world we live in but unfortunately nothing is perfect cos their are many mistakes in the Bible, when you're born you knew nothing but the day to day activities made you became you own God religion limites your thinking mentality cos you can't think beyond what has been installed on your mind

Fear and belief made religion stronger when I was little people created fear in us to the extent that my little brother started legs and dead people face my mom was afraid the it might be a spiritual attack so she rush and get a holy water immediately she poured it on him my brother started gaining confidence and before we know is everything disappeared this made my mom trust more in God without that holy water my brother wouldn't have gain the ability to fight fear and it might lead to another thing, that religion for you they create fear in you and made you to believe the cure is their God bulshit.

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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by tjones007: 5:48pm On Oct 16, 2016
OoniOfIfe:






here is part of the things that made me to become atheist

do you still think the bible was written by man?
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by hopefulLandlord: 5:52pm On Oct 16, 2016
terrezo2002:
I have a hope in God. What is the hope of atheists?

Christians have the hope that at the end of time:

1all pain and suffering will end for the righteous

2 every evildoer will be punished, every good person rewarded

3 those who believed in Jesus will be sent to a place of eternal bliss and reunited with their loved ones

That’s a lot of hope. It’s false hope, but it’s a lot of it. Do atheists have less hope than that?

Yup.

Atheists have less hope than Christians have in the same way that adults have less hope than young children on Christmas Eve. The adults know that special gifts do not come from a jolly man in the sky with infinite resources. Young children – and Christians – have not yet grasped this.

But this does not mean atheists are without hope. It just means we hope for more realistic goals. It also means we face reality square in the face, figure out how reality works, and use that knowledge to better mankind.

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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by RomeoMarvis(m): 5:58pm On Oct 16, 2016
philfearon:

So, it's okay your God ordered a bear to kill innocent children who were playing innocent jokes by making fun of a bearded person?
Using you peoples logic that your God is omniscient, I suppose your God knew such thing will happen beforehand, but still allows it to happen anyway (when he could have prevented it ab initio,) and kills the little innocent children who knows nothing... Why?
Don't u knw making jest of elderly ones is disastrous? Ignorance is no excuse. we ain't robot that God programmed; if it were so, u wouldn't be here doubting his existence and supremacy cos u'll be programmed to obey him
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by kolaish(m): 6:00pm On Oct 16, 2016
exmuslim1:
And you decided to skip the part where he said "note:I hold no grudge against any Christian or moslem because im not here to make you an atheist, its your choice to make, study your religions and its history and weigh the evidence, if you choose to still remain a Christian good if you choose atheism good as long as you are a good citizen of the country you dwell in."
His comments are anti christ, no doubt about that, you can go through some of them.

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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by Ajixegun: 6:07pm On Oct 16, 2016
infohenry:
Then God must have evolved since you can not tell how god came about before it started creating other things. Please help me with how God came into existence.

I used to ask this type of you about God before till a day, i went to redemption alone for Holy ghost night in 2007. Seeing thousands of people in the auditorium, made me to ponder in my heart, who created God that people come to meet here? As the thought was running through my mind, Pastor Adeboye was like "someone is here you are asking who created God, the Lord told me to tell you stop disturbing yourself". Since then I ceased to ask the question, who created God?
Bro, there is God and I think nothing created Him.

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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by wristbangle: 6:10pm On Oct 16, 2016
Edenoscar:

actually i sneezed the world into existence.forget all the rubbish you see in the bible or quran

How did u sneezed into this world? What kind of force pushed you into existence?
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by wristbangle: 6:11pm On Oct 16, 2016
stephenmorris:
I dont know doesn't mean god did it at least I should try and search out

Okay bro. Kindly do a thorough research.
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by Rett0: 6:11pm On Oct 16, 2016
stephenmorris:
I did not believe my father and mum gave birth to me , I found out through their care and love and as I grew the more I understood , I could see my face in their faces , they had evidence such as pictures from my younger age of 0-till now

I love your response. I have become so close to God as his dear child. I have grown to understand that too. The more I draw closer, the greater the love he shows. This is evident in the relationship and fellowship I enjoy. From my younger days till now, his Faithfulness remains an unarguable proof of his existence. Sweet heart I pray you to believe on the Lord Jesus and draw closer to him each day so you can partake of his love and enjoy his fellowship.
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by ever811(m): 6:14pm On Oct 16, 2016
exmuslim1:
Read about The Taung Child. His fossil confirms the existence of primal humans (Australopithecus Africanus). Did God wait millions of years for evolution before acknowledging himself? It makes no sense, since Muslims and Christians claim the first human that was created is Adam (A Modern Human [Homo Sapiens]) undecided

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taung_Child
what a waste of oxygen and space..I said tell me how we got here you are talking about fossil..now I ask again how do we get here..as you post the pictures of those your great grand fathers don't for get to tell me how he came into existence.. thank you
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by hopefulLandlord: 6:17pm On Oct 16, 2016
Ajixegun:


I used to ask this type of you about God before till a day, i went to redemption alone for Holy ghost night in 2007. Seeing thousands of people in the auditorium, made me to ponder in my heart, who created God that people come to meet here? As the thought was running through my mind, Pastor Adeboye was like "someone is here you are asking who created God, the Lord told me to tell you stop disturbing yourself". Since then I ceased to ask the question, who created God?
Bro, there is God and I think nothing created Him.

cool story bro grin

can you give us a link to him saying this?

adeboye would say someone is asking who created god? lmao grin
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by engrchykae(m): 6:22pm On Oct 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


we realised that every god is a man made concept

that's the knowledge I gained
the same way the first man created himself and you created yourself.
see my friend,it's only the illiterate and brutes that believe that order can come from chaos without a higher intelligence.
the present day religions may be wrong but there is God or a super intelligent being.there cannot be a building without an architect.
the big bang theory is the most dumb thing I ever heard because there have been lots of bang but no new materials not to talk of new life.
we had Hiroshima,Nagasaki and ogbunigwes but no new creation.
there is God but contemporary religions are unable to lead us to him but the wise Buddha said"DECAY IS INHERENT IN EVERY COMPONENT THING,THEREFORE SEEK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION"
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by Tobitrueman(m): 6:27pm On Oct 16, 2016
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Atheists stand made obvious in this MI's Everything I've seen song
I have seen the paper turn a man against his maker

Started getting bread and now he don’t respect the baker

N!gga think they landed now they tryna own the acre

Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by Edenoscar(m): 6:30pm On Oct 16, 2016
wristbangle:


How did u sneezed into this world? What kind of force pushed you into existence?
lol am eternal i exist outside space and time
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by MightySparrow: 6:32pm On Oct 16, 2016
OoniOfIfe:
Whan I was a christian I was praying for knowledge,

Today I'm an atheist and I'm glad

So you now have all the knowledge?
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by henrimoto(m): 6:34pm On Oct 16, 2016
buffalowings:
Another religious fanatic is here
Welcome.
See the likes, he has so many of his mind closeted kins here
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by henrimoto(m): 6:35pm On Oct 16, 2016
infohenry:
Then God must have evolved since you can not tell how god came about before it started creating other things. Please help me with how God came into existence.
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by Edenoscar(m): 6:42pm On Oct 16, 2016
engrchykae:

the big bang theory is the most dumb thing I ever heard because there have been lots of bang but no new materials not to talk of new life.
we had Hiroshima,Nagasaki and ogbunigwes but no new creation.
this post stinks of ignorance.
My brother u have try

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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by kazyhm(m): 6:46pm On Oct 16, 2016
Edenoscar:

if i say you are a fool it will look as if i am insulting you..what is the meaning of convince you facts and not theory do you know what a theory or facts is..
When it comes to how life originated you should ask the scientist and not the atheist.
I may not have prove that God does not exist infact you cannot disprove the existence of God but what i can disprove is the God asserted by any religion


this speaks volume


I have stopped talking to people that only want to argue, you can't win someone's opinion
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by Nobody: 6:47pm On Oct 16, 2016
I know the OP, in creating this thread, did so with the noblest intentions.
Look how he confessed the dearth of his knowledge, how he accepted it with not a modicum of shame, and how in humble surrender, he lavishes encomium on HE who created all that is.

It takes such drastic descent from pride to be able to pull such a feat.

If you doubt the nobility in confessing one's ignorance, then you probably have not heard this:

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool" — William Shakespeare

Or even one of the most paradoxical statements in the history of humankind. And that is Socrates' statement in Plato's Apology:

"I know that I know nothing"

[...]

But, however noble your intentions were, however docent you hoped your message would be: you fell into the one sin which plunges me into a chasm of disgust a thousand fathoms deep — and probably every other thinking reed proudly festooned with the laurels of Christianity.

And that one sin, is that Christendom, was for the umpteenth time, tarred with the same brush with the repulsive behemoth that is Ignorance — a faux pax of embarrassing dimensions.

Quoi ci quoi ça?

Why, why? Why are Christians always portrayed as intellectually inferior?
Oh, I know, it's Atheist propaganda — majority of them on Nairaland, and whom I have met in person, are but pseudo-intellectuals with no sense of bearing — think of the sciolist who really doesn't know anything.

[...]

Christians have always been the most knowledgeable of the human species, and have always been known and hailed for their keen minds, and inimitable creative genius.

Galileo, Rene Descartes, Leonardo Da Vinci, Dante Alighieri, Raphael Santi, Issac Newton, Michelangelo, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Thomas Acquinas, Martin Luther, and a galaxy of others. These were all Christians.

What about Georges Lamaître? Georges who proposed what we now know today as the theory of the Big Bang creation of the universe [the Big Bang theory is misattributed to Edwin Hubble... as in Hubble of the Hubble telescope]

The same Georges proposed what is known today as "the Hubble law" and "the Hubble constant" [also misattributed to Edwin Hubble].
How many of the so-called Atheists are aware that Georges Lamaître was in fact a Bulgarian Catholic priest?

So much for being a religion of ignorance.

Maybe we neo-Christians — the Nigerian fold precisely — need not waste ergs of energy on our superstitious mumbo-jumbo, or in our vain pursuit of miracles, or in our crass, thumb-in-the-face commodification of Christendom...and just maybe brave the path of Christianity with scholatism as the cynosure to walk us by.

Maybe if we do that, ignorance and Christianity would cease to be seen as two passionate lovers in unending snuggle.

But then, it's like preaching to the choir.

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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by henrimoto(m): 6:48pm On Oct 16, 2016
aaronson:
This is the funniest thread have seen in a while, Op you really funny.

As an Atheist, I can boldly tell you the reasons for this thread you started are:

FEAR

YOU NOT ACOSTOM TO CHANGE

COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

SOCIOLOGICAL NUCTURE


Now, Those aforementioned are the reasons for this thread, Trust me if you work on them, You would turn Atheist, we Atheists aren't intelligent like you claim, we. Just happen to do the opposite of what I have listed above.

Conclusion:
Reading is fundamental and fun to mental.
Knowledge is POWER.
Reading can badly destroy ignorance.
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by shadeyinka(m): 6:50pm On Oct 16, 2016
stephenmorris:
no one is ever free thats the mistake you theists all make , this life is a race that is won by those who run well ,not fast but how well they run
2.i am not a god
3.i don't know all

1.You are free from Gods rule, aren't you?
2. Since no god is above you, you are your own god, answerable only to yourself with respect to eternity: isn't that true?
3. You certainly know one thing which the rest of us gullible and weak ones don't know: "there is no God"

You "passed" the test of the Forbidden fruit: its the same question rephrased!
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by cuteralph101(m): 7:00pm On Oct 16, 2016
stephenmorris:
I have prayed like this before but today I am an atheist .see my friend God does not exist
, if knowing right from wrong without being a Christian or moslem and someone tells me am wrong and lost , I just look at how such person has been so enslaved by foreign religions,
note:I hold no grudge against any Christian or moslem because im not here to make you an atheist, its your choice to make, study your religions and its history and weigh the evidence, if you choose to still remain a Christian good if you choose atheism good as long as you are a good citizen of the country you dwell in.
I don't have problems with Christian friends either.
cc:hahn, Loj, philferon
Does evil exist?

The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied, "Yes, he did!"

"God created everything? The professor asked.

"Yes sir", the student replied.

The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are then God is evil". The student became quiet before such an answer. The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question professor?"

"Of course", replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"

"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question.

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat."

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

The professor responded, "Of course it does."

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down

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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by exmuslim1: 7:03pm On Oct 16, 2016
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Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by cuteralph101(m): 7:03pm On Oct 16, 2016
shadeyinka:


1.You are free from Gods rule, aren't you?
2. Since no god is above you, you are your own god, answerable only to yourself with respect to eternity: isn't that true?
3. You certainly know one thing which the rest of us gullible and weak ones don't know: "there is no God"

You "passed" the test of the Forbidden fruit: its the same question rephrased!
u re ur own god?...*spits* U can't even create an ant...u don't even know how u evolved or how did animals came to existence. What about d trees, d mountains, d oceans, d sky...sea animals. Bro am sorry to say this you are a foooool!! If u can't easily convince just me...Just me know that ur soul is doomed.
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by shadeyinka(m): 7:08pm On Oct 16, 2016
cuteralph101:
u re ur own god?...*spits* U can't even create an ant...u don't even know how u evolved or how did animals came to existence. What about d trees, d mountains, d oceans, d sky...sea animals. Bro am sorry to say this you are a foooool!!

Thank you! Very well taken.

How about you? A god!

..and you know how Man evolved, you also know how animals came to be...You are god!

Kai! Today I met either the most humble god or one who is confused about his identity.
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by ever811(m): 7:09pm On Oct 16, 2016
exmuslim1:
Why the insults? undecided Your statement implied you don't believe in the possibility of evolution nor the spontaneous existence of an organism. It's possible for an organism to put itself together. Seems like you're having trouble recognizing the pictures of your great grandmother's elder brother. Thank you.
organism put it self together.. lol..so u don't even know a thing about your believe?..I wish I can find you and give you a dirty slap..how do we get here Mr organism son of mazi fossil?
Re: May I Not Be Knowledgeable To The Extent Of Doubting Your Existence. by Edenoscar(m): 7:11pm On Oct 16, 2016
shadeyinka:


Thank you! Very well taken.

How about you? A god!

..and you know how Man evolved, you also know how animals came to be...You are god!

Kai! Today I met either the most humble god or one who is confused about his identity.
hehehe nah your person oo

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