peacesamuel94:


so atheists are confused as to how we came about? so why the choice to become atheists in the first place when the knowledge you have about the universe and it origin are inconclusive.

promise10:

Here he goes....


An average atheist falsely claiming to be intelligent!

All theists are foolish, and all atheists are wise- charles darwkins(aka the high priest of atheism).

MrMontella:

they are not confused..they are just ignorant as at our present state...admitting ignorance is not bad...i
Instead of believing in a fairy tale and pronouncing it as truth..
Admitting ignorance is much more better and open.

promise10:

Here he goes....


An average atheist falsely claiming to be intelligent!

All theists are foolish, and all atheists are wise- charles darwkins(aka the high priest of atheism).

Brigham:

You're worse than the guy.

taurus25:


Scientifically, we have gone very far in piecing the puzzle of exactly how we came to be, were almost there, we arent confused .

There's no single evidence for gods existence, all we have are wild assumptions and gap fillers. Thats why almost every culture had their god ideas before the abandonment of many of them due to increase in scientific knowledge.


pls i need a little update as regards how far you've gone as to how the universe came about?

jonbellion:
I don't even know who "Charles darwkins" is

peacesamuel94:

MrMontella:

they are not confused..they are just ignorant as at our present state...admitting ignorance is not bad...i
Instead of believing in a fairy tale and pronouncing it as truth..
Admitting ignorance is much more better and open.

jonbellion:
it's quite simple. Because the religious answers make no sense. I find it hard to believe that a woman was formed from the rib of a man and that they and deceived by a talking snake and engaged in inbreeding to populate a world that was later destroyed so then they engaged in inbreeding again with the surviving humans. It sounds like a myth infact it is myth. It is no different from the creation myths of other cultures. Adam did not name all the animals in the world. The animals all did not live in a garden at first and there was definitely not a boat that was created by 8 unskilled people that was able to harbor all the animals in the world. In other world histories there was civilisation during the time of the great flood. At the same time I can't say if we were created or not I'd have to know everything to outrightly say there is no God but I just feel that the religious versions of God is simply not the answer. The Abrahamic God is far from the definition of a perfect being. A perfect being is supposed to be better than humans. A perfect being is not supposed to operate on ego like the Abrahamic God. The Abrahamic God is just simply man made
If there is a creator or not we simply don't know. Agnostism is the best stand

peacesamuel94:


its the same thing, confusion is as a result of ignorance. You claim to admit ignorance but yet, you are so confident that the universe was not created denying the possibility of a creator
Even to the extent of becoming an atheist.
Isn't that a Big contradiction!

taurus25:

lol i know were you're headed , and im exactly going to lead you there.

We have two remarkable theories in science. one describes the EVOLUTION OF THE UNIVERSE, the other describes the EVOLUTION OF SPECIES ON EARTH.

In all of human history, this is the closest we've come to understand our existence. ;-*

peacesamuel94:


its the same thing, confusion is as a result of ignorance. You claim to admit ignorance, but yet, you are so confident that the universe was not created, denying the possibility of a creator
Even to the extent of becoming an atheist.
Isn't that a Big contradiction!

peacesamuel94:

So how did the universe evolve?

MrMontella:


@the underlined...the atheists on nairaland and those i know do not say that..
What atheists say----the gods presented by various religious sects are fake/false/made up,,they are not what their proponents claim them to be....but if the universe was created or not ---we dont know yet...its that simple.

taurus25:

From the big bang !

peacesamuel94:

so how did it start?

peacesamuel94:


So how did you come up with the assertion that of all the numerous religious sects we have in nigeria and all over the world, That there is no possibility of anyone of them to bê right

And your display of overconfidence in their fallibility, suggests that you know too much about how the universe came about to be ignorant.

taurus25:

We dont know YET . The facts for the big bang is conclusive.

taurus25:

We dont know YET . The facts for the big bang is conclusive.

felixomor1:


Please where did they conclude it?
Where exactly?

taurus25:

http://study.com/academy/lesson/evidence-for-the-big-bang-theory-background-radiation-red-shift-and-expansion.html

dont be ignorant because of religion.

peacesamuel94:


funny, christians believe God created the universe, but do not have absolute knowledge of how he did it.

Atheist like you, believe it to be the big bang, but it appears your knowledge of how it started is not conclusive. So what differentiates you from the christians whom you mock for claming to know all, yet you parade an incomplete theory as the máster guide of earth's origin.

You Claim not to know all, Yet your confidence in the fallibility of every other possible answer to how the universe came about except yours, is a big contradiction to your initial stand.

I believe it sounds more logical to believe That a conscious, supreme being is responsible for earth's creation, rather than to believe that an uncaused explosion for no reason whatsoever generated the universe and all it contains. which means everything on earth as well as earth itself, came about by COINCIDENCE.

But here comes my question: IF TRULY WE CAME BY COINCIDENCE, WHY IS IT THAT EARTH, OF ALL THE COUNTLESS PLANETS IN THE UNIVERSE IS THE ONLY ONE CAPABLE OF COMPLEX LIFE, (PRECISELY HUMAN LIFE). because if it were just a coincidence then at least it would have happened over an again.

I promise to end the questions after your reply, thanks and goodluck!

IF TRULY WE CAME BY COINCIDENCE, WHY IS IT THAT EARTH, OF ALL THE COUNTLESS PLANETS IN THE UNIVERSE IS THE ONLY ONE CAPABLE OF COMPLEX LIFE, (PRECISELY HUMAN LIFE).

felixomor1:


U are gullible sha?
I was expecting one general consensus.
Instead u went to produce document that somborri like me used as final project for masters.
Abeg, did u attend school?

taurus25:

I just found an article that explains the big bang for layman understanding.

You know, its pityable when someone is willfully ignorant.

Do you know

1) what the galactic redshift is?
2) what the cosmic microwave background is?

Being religous shouldnt make you dumb

taurus25:

I just found an article that explains the big bang for layman understanding.

You know, its pityable when someone is willfully ignorant.

Do you know

1) what the galactic redshift is?
2) what the cosmic microwave background is?

Being religous shouldnt make you dumb

TomHagen:
Are the CMB and galactic redshift accepted as absolute truths (proof of the BBT) by the scientific community?

winner01:
We dont fear Hell, we have no reason to.
We fear God. Fear here is translated from.the word "yirat" which means reverence. We reverence God.

Hell exists and was not created for man. If you wish it away, it does not change anything.

God is all loving and is also a God of Justics.

We dont think about hell. I personally dont think about hell as much as I think about heaven.

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felixomor1:


I can see u r trying to fraudulently reduce the sound of ur drums.

Its no longer where "conclusion" was made abi, u were looking for.
Mscheeeewwww

taurus25:

One can either be ignorant innocently or willfully ignorant.

The big bang is a fact, whether you like it or not. Because we dont know how it began doesnt mean god did it. Absense of evidence for one thing is not presense of evidence for another.

You can claim a supreme creator exists, you wont be the first, generations before you have had various versions of a creator. But where is the evidence for the existence of one?

Where did anyone say the universe began from nothing?



This is ridicoulus , where exactly or rather who ever confirmed the earth is the only planet capable of complex life.

taurus25:

lol...i think you have comprehension problems.

Those pieces of evidence are proof(conclusive) that the big bang occurred at one point in history, roughly 14 billion years ago

Fun fact, religous physicsts were one of the first to accept the theory, because, they believe it still leaves room for a creator.

felixomor1:


Pieces of evidence, from somborri's project work.
Excuse me. Please

And see u trying to bring in another dubious "religious physicist" again.

If u like twist ur vocabularies and words to suit any shape u want to take.
There is no general scientific concencus or conclusion that confirms or verifies the big bang.

The most intelligent scientists still believe the universe was created by God.

Kill it.