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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:48am On Nov 01, 2016
goldfish80:

I think the number tallies. Alaba is 24 yrs old, in 2007 he should be 15. Screening for the 2007 U17 team should have been opened in 2006 when he was actually 14. He made his debut for Bayern at 17yrs and a few months in 2009, so the number tallies.

If he was good for Bayern at 17, he was certainly good for Nigerian under 17 at 15 but we were more interested in taking old men that will retire a few years after the world cup.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:49am On Nov 01, 2016
[size=14pt]Alaba Might Have Rejected Nigeria Due To His Problem With His Dad[/size]

"I stayed away from everybody. When the political success came I could not stand the crowd. One day, I opted out.

"My father asked to do something and I refused and he said he should not find me at home when he came back if I did not do what he asked me to do.

"I don’t remember what he asked me to do but I left swearing never to burden his doorway with my shadow ever again.”


http://t.guardian.ng/opinion/alabas-rejection-of-his-father/
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:51am On Nov 01, 2016
tbaba1234:


If he was good for Bayern at 17, he was certainly good for Nigerian under 17 at 15 but we were more interested in taking old men that will retire a few years after the world cup.

Alaba did not take it that way. He understood it was logistics issues.

As I said before, that was not enough reason to turn down playing for Nigeria. I doubt his heart was fully devoted to us. If he wanted to play for us, an U17 exclusion is not enough to turn a player away.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 11:52am On Nov 01, 2016
kentAire:

Don't know why but u kinda share ur optimism, Maybe am just a die hard fan of the super eagles (dem know me for my area).


NB: Super eagles don cut my ticket several times.
We are both die hard fans but my area is so dull.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:55am On Nov 01, 2016
tbaba1234:


If he was good for Bayern at 17, he was certainly good for Nigerian under 17 at 15 but we were more interested in taking old men that will retire a few years after the world cup.
Well, it's easy to say now because we have the benefit of hindsight. If the authorities knew he would become a world class player 5years later they would have made a chance for him

Remember in the 2013 u17 team, we had Habib Makounjuola who was at Chelsea and highly rated. 3 years on, Iheanacho, Success, Nwakali, Ndidi etc are the ones making waves. Its just hindsight

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:57am On Nov 01, 2016
goldfish80:

I think the number tallies. Alaba is 24 yrs old, in 2007 he should be 15. Screening for the 2007 U17 team should have been opened in 2006 when he was actually 14. He made his debut for Bayern at 17yrs and a few months in 2009, so the number tallies.

Definitely, Alaba was a prodigy. The age tallies. However, no report of him in camp. You can see from the article posted. That was about 2009/2010. He did not say he was in the camp.

Nice info that he was so young and so good at 17 years. Very impressive.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:59am On Nov 01, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


''I wanted to play for Nigeria but I must confess that there was no formal approach for me. A scout actually discussed that with me. I was excited because of my dad, he was a fan of Sunday Oliseh when Oliseh played for FC Koln. As a kid, I loved to watch Victor Agali in the jersey of Hansa Rostock,''

'' I got the information that Nigeria will only consider those who were in the country perhaps because of travelling logistics and that is the end of that."




http://www.tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/sports/7508-why-i-dumped-nigeria-david-alaba.html%EF%BB%BF
I read this version a long time before I heard he was in camp with his dad. Whichever one it is, he has gone to do well for himself and we watch him with admiration.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:00pm On Nov 01, 2016
goldfish80:

Well, it's easy to say now because we have the benefit of hindsight. If the authorities knew he would become a world class player 5years later they would have made a chance for him

Remember in the 2013 u17 team, we had Habib Makounjuola who was at Chelsea and highly rated. 3 years on, Iheanacho, Success, Nwakali, Ndidi etc are the ones making waves. Its just hindsight

What is sad was that, as soon as Bayern Munich signed Alaba, we should have contacted him. Let him know he has a chance to play for us. Send scouts to watch him.

If Austria felt he was good enough for them, in 2008, Siasia should have reached out to him and assure him a big role in the U20 Squad.

Sad, Siasia was more interested in Obiora Nwankwo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:00pm On Nov 01, 2016
goldfish80:

Well, it's easy to say now because we have the benefit of hindsight. If the authorities knew he would become a world class player 5years later they would have made a chance for him

Remember in the 2013 u17 team, we had Habib Makounjuola who was at Chelsea and highly rated. 3 years on, Iheanacho, Success, Nwakali, Ndidi etc are the ones making waves. Its just hindsight

As long as we are parading truly young players.. Some will inevitably slip through the cracks. In 2007, we did not parade young players, that's the frustrating part. At least maybe one of them would have been at Alaba's level today.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:03pm On Nov 01, 2016
goldfish80:

I read this version a long time before I heard he was in camp with his dad. Whichever one it is, he has gone to do well for himself and we watch him with admiration.

At the end, we can only wish the young man the best. He still has Nigeria in his heart. It was nice seeing Alaba carrying the Nigerian flag when Bayern won the 2012/2013 Champions League.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:07pm On Nov 01, 2016
terzurum5:

Oga Forgiveness, see wetin your guy dey do us ba

No be d guy, na em agent wan spoil show.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:08pm On Nov 01, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


What is sad was that, as soon as Bayern Munich signed Alaba, we should have contacted him. Let him know he has a chance to play for us. Send scouts to watch him.

If Austria felt he was good enough for them, in 2008, Siasia should have reached out to him and assure him a big role in the U20 Squad.

Sad, Siasia was more interested in Obiora Nwankwo.

I think Siasia was more interested getting Sone Aluko for his 2009 WYC in Egypt. Nwankwo Obiora was home based at the time with Niger Tornadoes or Wikki tourist if I remember.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:15pm On Nov 01, 2016
tbaba1234:


As long as we are parading truly young players.. Some will inevitably slip through the cracks. In 2007, we did not parade young players, that's the frustrating part. At least maybe one of them would have been at Alaba's level today.
It's quite surprising that 2007 team has hardly produced any player of repute.

I rated Udoh highly, I thought he would go on to even captian the Super Eagles at some point. Matthew Edile was signed up by Man city after the tourney,but nothing has been heard about him since then.

Rabiu Ibrahim after the euphoria signing for sporting Lisbon have since stagnated

Lukman Haruna is Lukman Haruna.

Chrisantus......

Guys like James Rodriguez who played for Colombia at same tournament with no impact whatsoever is currently at Real Madrid, worth more than $50m

Am disappointed with that generation to be honest.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:17pm On Nov 01, 2016
goldfish80:


I think Siasia was more interested getting Sone Aluko for his 2009 WYC in Egypt. Nwankwo Obiora was home based at the time with Niger Tornadoes or Wikki tourist if I remember.

Carrying Aluko was not wrong but damn, Obiora was wack. Looks someone pushed and not pure footballing talent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:22pm On Nov 01, 2016
tbaba1234:


Agents do that all the time. It depends on the boy now. I think, they should talk to the boy and get his final word. He might be more inclined to his agent than the family.

A player like Otigba who Omeruo is not better than in the Turkish league contunues to get ignored. I will just call Otigba as a replacement.


I see! But I think from the look of the situation on ground, the family seems to be the deciding factor in this situation.

Otigba case is something I still don't understand.
Some people claims it's paper issue but I suspect foul play.

Do you have any information?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:26pm On Nov 01, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Carrying Aluko was not wrong but damn, Obiora was wack. Looks someone pushed and not pure footballing talent.
LOL was he really that bad? Inter Milan thought otherwise.. Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:35pm On Nov 01, 2016
safarigirl:
Lol...aww, oga forgiveness was hurt, no wonder you been no too talk since.

Tyronne abeg, don't disappoint forgiveness, he has been sticking his neck out for you all this time, repay his faith positively.



Hehehehe! As I see the news I gentle.

In fact, I lost strength to debate.

But now wey I don know d koko, Hehehe!, debate continues. smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:45pm On Nov 01, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Does not change the fact that Aluko is in good form. He might not play for a top team with a fanciful badge but there is no way such quality does not deserve a call up.

If we had a sure quality creative midfielder, Iheanacho would play up front. Aluko is there and he can play comfortably behind the striker. Why limit ourselves?

Nobody is disputing but who do you think he can replace?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 12:45pm On Nov 01, 2016
forgiveness:

Hehehehe! As I see the news I gentle.
In fact, I lost strength to debate.
But now wey I don know d koko, Hehehe!, debate continues. smiley
Baba, easy ooo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:08pm On Nov 01, 2016
forgiveness:


Nobody is disputing but who do you think he can replace?

Aluko was very impressive playing behind the Striker for us against South Africa. I say if he gets the chance to play for us, he should play that role. His style of play attacks players and creates gap for our forwards to excel.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:13pm On Nov 01, 2016
goldfish80:

LOL was he really that bad? Inter Milan thought otherwise.. Lol

Obiora was that bad. Do you remember the Inter Milan game that Bale ran riot on Maicon? Obiora was one of the reasons it happened. Benitez gave Obiora that responsibility to support Maicon, he failed and left Maicon exposed throughout the game.

One of the big mistakes of Benitez. Keshi dodged a bullet when he dropped Obiora at the 2012.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:16pm On Nov 01, 2016
Icon4s:


That "at present" is what we are talking about.

With players like Iwobi, Iheanacho and Etebor in the team Aluko doesn't stand a chance.

Rabiu Ibrahim and Joel Obi with all their skills cant also make the team.

Who told you Joel Obi can't make the team?

I don't think Etebor is in the same level with Aluko.

In short, Aluko is not likely going to make the team because he is playing in the Championship. Simple.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:25pm On Nov 01, 2016
forgiveness:


Who told you Joel Obi can't make the team?

I don't think Etebor is in the same level with Aluko.

In short, Aluko is not likely going to make the team because he is playing in the Championship. Simple.

So it is time we drop Ikeme because he is playing in the Championship. Simple. What of Alampasu? I doubt his league is Championship quality.

That is why I like invite to camp and screen.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:31pm On Nov 01, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


So it is time we drop Ikeme because he is playing in the Championship. Simple. What of Alampasu? I doubt his league is Championship quality.

That is why I like invite to camp and screen.

Do you have another replacement for Ikeme?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sunnypa11(m): 1:31pm On Nov 01, 2016
The list of 18 Algeria European Foxes to face Super Eagles
George Leekens has given a list of 18 players playing abroad, reserving 5 places for Homebased players till after attending the Super Cup of Algeria this afternoon.
The notable omissions are Hanni and Zeffane, as well as Bensebaini.
The 18 Foreign pros are :
Goalkeeper : M'Bolhi
Defenders : M'bolhi, Mandi, Belkaroui, Medjani, Ghoulam, Cadamuro
Midfielders : Bentaleb, Guedioura, Taider, Abeid, Brahimi, Boudebouz, Feghouli, Ghezzal
Attackers: Ounas, Mahrez, Slimani, Soudani
http://nigfooty..com/2016/11/breaking-news-18foreign-algeria.html

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:33pm On Nov 01, 2016
forgiveness:


Do you have another replacement for Ikeme?

Camp and screen. Do not use Aluko is not good and then select players from same or lower leagues. Simple, screen the promising players and select the best. Anything apart from that is Partia.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:43pm On Nov 01, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Camp and screen. Do not use Aluko is not good and then select players from same or lower leagues. Simple, screen the promising players and select the best. Anything apart from that is Partia.


Who said Aluko is not good?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:44pm On Nov 01, 2016
forgiveness:



Who said Aluko is not good?

Rushed what I typed. I wanted to say dropping a player because he plays for a lower league, while selecting an option from the same league.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:48pm On Nov 01, 2016
Certitude:

Baba, easy ooo

No worries! grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:53pm On Nov 01, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Rushed what I typed. I wanted to say dropping a player because he plays for a lower league, while selecting an option from the same league.

I am not saying that he should not be given the chance but he must earn it.

He needs to be consistent with his games to attract invitation to a friendly match.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 1:54pm On Nov 01, 2016
forgiveness:


No be d guy, na em agent wan spoil show.
You ehn.

Why did it take you so long to reply.

You probably must have waited for so long to look for something to cover up right?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:58pm On Nov 01, 2016
terzurum5:

You ehn.

Why did it take you so long to reply.

You probably must have waited for so long to look for something to cover up right?

Hehehehe! grin as d news wan fall my hand.

I no con get strength to type kwa. Sorry grin

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