safarigirl:
he's a goalie, not an outfield player.

Give me players in the Israeli league who are internationals for their country, or in the SA league....

The rules that apply to outfield players do not apply to goalies, especially when they are no older than 20 years of age AND African

TheGoodJoe:


Preseason games, the matches are not a training camp. They are football games. The training happens before the game. Pellegrini called Iheanacho and C. Nwakali to go for the preseason tour after camping and training.

goldfish80:

Players go for pre season training from their homes.
Except you're saying Iheanacho and Nwakali were camping at home before travelling with Man city for pre season training .

zuchyblink:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romaric_Rogombé
why is this Gabonese goal machine not in Europe?

TheGoodJoe:


What are you talking? Please, before Pellegrini released his list for the preseason games, he was in camp with a lot of players. He made his final list. One player that was dropped was Devante Cole, Andy Cole's son.

Stop twisting your point. You clearly talked of Bellerin playing in Emirates Cup. I pointed to you that Wenger knew he was quality before you saw Bellerin in those games.

Do not jump around the point to slow the thread's momentum.

goldfish80:

You're the one slowing the threads momentum with this constant talk about playing a rookie in goal for our biggest game in 2016.

My point is that managers use pre season to gauge the level all players available to him are.
Even the training you mentioned before camping is pre season !!!

TheGoodJoe:


Your the one who has failed to grasp a simple point. I did not say play a rookie. I said play the best in camp. How many times do I have to say a simple point as that for you to understand? Play the best in camp.

lakesidepapa:



Hey hey.!!! they should leave Onazi at the blocking role with Mikel, there combo have been great and they keep understanding themselves. Ndidi can replace Onazi as a Sub or when Eddy is injured. Besides, Ndidi is NOT better than Eddy.! Yes.!



@He doesn’t commit foul around the edge of the box or in dangerous position.
I can't believe this, Ndidi committed a fowl against a Atl bibao player in the 18 yard box and it was a penalty. We should just stick with the Onazi-Mikel.

TheGoodJoe:


So you feel experience comes from playing in big match for a country. So was Sanches experience before or after the coach opted to play such a youngster in such big games? I thought the youngster will feel jittery. Because, to the best of my knowledge, Sanches was the Man of the match in his Euros debut.

Sanches might know the feeling of playing in the Euros but he is no way close to Osman in experience.

TheSuperNerd:
High Flying Turkish Side Declares Super Eagles Defender Musa Muhammed Surplus To Requirement




Super Eagles right full back Musa Muhammed has been told to search for a new club in January by high flying Turkish side Istanbul Basaksehir.


Since joining the team last summer, the 20 year old Nigerian is yet to make a single appearance for the Turkish side, and he is presently viewed as the fourth choice right fullback of the team.


So far he has just five professional appearances to his name in over one year at the Turkish side, and the table toppers in Turkey have made it clear that his services are no longer required.


”Yesterday when they played Galatasary, I spoke with a member of the team shortly after the game which they won 2-1 away from home to maintain their fine start to the season. I asked
about Muhammed’s situation and I was told he
has been told to leave” Turkish journalist Adnan
Adem told Owngoalnigeria.com.


”As a matter of fact, he is aware he is not needed even before the start of the season, one wonder why he stayed behind. It’s a pity but he hasn’t really grown”.

Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/11/05/high-flying-turkish-side-declares-super-eagles-defender-musa-muhammed-surplus-to-requirement/

goldfish80:

Give me names of players in the Portuguese 3rd division who are internationals for their country.

TheGoodJoe:


How can you insist on going with a tested hand, especially with a possibility of better options. It just does not add. An automatic shirt for Akpeyi is a wrong decision. He must prove capable.

Training is different from match games, so I guess there is no reason to train due to match conditions is different.

Please, training is the way to identify the best talents. Just as Ndidi had a poor game, experienced and tested hands have poor games repeatedly. I think in 2002, Inter Milan's last game of the season, Inter Milan were on top the table and needed to win the last game to win.

Ronaldo De Lima who was one of the best players in the World had an atrocious game. One of the worst in his career. Due to his poor game, Inter Milan lost the league title to Roma.

Ronaldo De Lima wept like a baby after the coach subbed him. So all these tested hands/new hands, are factors beyond knowledge.

goldfish80:

This is good news. Great news!
If his minders cannot find a decent club for him in a decent country, he should come back home and sign for Enugu Rangers.
Playing in the Npfl and Caf champions league could prove vital in his development.
The structure in Rangers will be most suitable for him. Imama being with the national team will take care of him properly.
I hope Imama speaks to him in camp.

BascoVanVeli:


God forbid, no disrespect to the npfl but this boy needs to be playing every week in Europe.

BascoVanVeli:


What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Y didn't u ask 4 a list of internationals in every country? All I said was that he is in the 3rd division and for that u r sending me homework.

Jefersoun:
Am not saying training is not important. For a new keeper as Alampasu the probability of him being a bit nervous or shaky is higher than that of Akpeyi. Majority of people will go with Akpeyi, due to the factors on ground as a new keeper and a tested keeper. Let me make this clear, the keepers position is the most sensitive of all the position in a football team, and that is why they don't change keepers as they do to other players. Take for example, you can play with a player down or more, you can even play without a manager, but you dare not play without a keeper. You want make i tell you wetin go happen? Na basketball score you go get. Please am not talking about players making a debut but keepers.

BascoVanVeli:


Sanches was playing big matches in Benfica before the Euro's and that was why the coach picked him. He has big game experience, he won't need to ask anybody what ro expect he already knows..

goldfish80:


My point is that the next goal keeper in line to take over from Carl is Akpeyi.
His experience and club form qualifies him for the role.
Aloy Agu and the other assistants should concentrate more on him durring training.
I expect him to be in goal in training games with the more probable match day line up (team A) while Ezenwa mans the post for the second string (team B).
Akpeyi should get a head start ahead of the other goalies.

If it's squarely up to training form, then the gates should be thrown open for everyone with a Nigerian passport to come and try out.
The most in form out of the lot should man the post in Uyo.

BascoVanVeli:


God forbid, no disrespect to the npfl but this boy needs to be playing every week in Europe.

shogz89:
I don't understand all this back amd forth argument, akpeyi should be chosen if amd only if:
1) he performs better than alampasu in training
2) they both perform well in training and you choose experience as criteria
3) they both bad in training and you choose based on experience

But if alampasu performs more in training there is no reason he shouldn't start ahead of him... There's no point calling him when you know he won't play no matter how better he is to other goalie in training..

Mickael2:


so Onazi does not commit fouls in dangerous areas? I can count the number of matches which Onazi has played without earning a yellow card, not to mention his recklessness.

the bolded part is so ridiculous that I won't even reply that bit at all

goldfish80:

The psl is a well organised league. Lots of internationals from African countries ply their trade in South Africa.
The Zambian team we played had a lot players from the Psl.
Isreali league is growing in leap an bound, since admitted to UEFA. There 2 clubs in the Europa league are doing well. There are lots of South American, African and players from that Mediterranean region who play in the Isreali league.

I don't really get your point about different rules for goalkeepers.

Mickael2:


there actually is a point for calling him even though you know he won't start and that point is EXPERIENCE and it is vital in the long run, I a not saying that he should start or not but just trying to explain it to you

TheSuperNerd:
@bolded... Yes that was in the Europa league.... Let's take a little walk back in time to October 9th shall we?

In Ndola, a high profile WCQ vs The Chipolopolo, Ndidi had it clean when he confronted Rainford Kalaba in the first half. His clean marking on Kalaba prevented Kalaba from pouncing a the loose ball saved by Ikeme from a Kalaba header moments after Iwobi's opener.

Kalaba even faked a dive/fall under the clean challenge from Ndidi in the penalty box but the referee had none of it and gave a yellow card to Kalaba for diving.

Ndidi's neat challenge on Kalaba prevented a possible penalty.

Some other defenders would have gone in on Kalaba "forcefully" and fallen for Kalaba's theatrics with the Ref left with no choice than to point to the penalty spot..... BUT NOT WILFRED NDIDI.

Ndidi is a natural clean winner and marker of the ball.... But it doesn't mean he may not commit on a few occasions.

lakesidepapa:


Are u telling me Ndidi doesn't commit fouls in dangerous as well? If u found it ridiculous and think im wrong, could u expatriate why Ndidi is better than Eddy?

TheGoodJoe:


Experience is overrated. Best is all that matters. Enyeama lasted that long for the Super Eagles because in all those years, he was the best. shogz89 puts it perfectly well. The best keeps. If there is no one better, you can use experience to select.

Mickael2:


there actually is a point for calling him even though you know he won't start and that point is EXPERIENCE and it is vital in the long run, I a not saying that he should start or not but just trying to explain it to you

lakesidepapa:


Are u telling me Ndidi doesn't commit fouls in dangerous as well? If u found it ridiculous and think im wrong, could u expatriate why Ndidi is better than Eddy?