tbaba1234:


@bolded, Ndidi is generally a clean tackler.. It does not mean that he does commit fouls at all.

Mickael2:


experience cost Nigeria a spot in the quarterfinals of the 1994 world cup. it is not overrated

Mickael2:


experience cost Nigeria a spot in the quarterfinals of the 1994 world cup. it is not overrated

safarigirl:
experience also cost us a spot in AFCON....if Siasia hadn't dropped Iwobi and Kelechi to play 'experience', maybe we would be preparing for Gabon 2017 by now.

It's overrated

Mickael2:


Kelechi played the first leg and he wasn't outstanding so he didn't really merit anybody there. and besides who replaced them? Aminu Umar isn't really an experienced replacement so they are all the same thing

TheGoodJoe:


Mickael2 is from the attacking possession philosophy school of thought and believes a defensive midfielder must contribute to the build-up play of the team. Onazi lacks behind Ndidi in that aspect and so I feel that is why Mickael2 rates Ndidi higher.

Mickael2:


Kelechi played the first leg and he wasn't outstanding so he didn't really merit anybody there. and besides who replaced them? Aminu Umar isn't really an experienced replacement so they are all the same thing

safarigirl:
experience, how?

You think he hasn't learnt enough on the sidelines from his club coaches and watching other goalies? How can he have experience on the bench?

You people need to break down this your experience talk, are you telling me a person who has been on the bench for a team in 13 games is more experienced than one who has played for same team in 5 games? Is the bench the latest point of experiejce? Cuz I was led to think actual playing time is what gives a person experience

lakesidepapa:


He could have said that way. but we are saying about coverage and blockage here. Experience, exposure and tested and trusted wise, Eddy beats him hands down.

lakesidepapa:


He could have said that way. but we are saying about coverage and blockage here. Experience, exposure and tested and trusted wise, Eddy beats him hands down.

TheGoodJoe:


Let us stick to coverage and blockage. Leave out experience, trusted, tested etc.

From general assessment and the way we play, I will not feel shocked if Rohr drops Onazi for Ndidi. Our build-up play is vital to our system and if we build-up better, we will not need that much blockage.

I agree with Mickael2 that we need to keep the ball better to cause the Algerians havoc. Ndidi takes it for me.

Mickael2:


there actually is a point for calling him even though you know he won't start and that point is EXPERIENCE and it is vital in the long run, I a not saying that he should start or not but just trying to explain it to you

TheGoodJoe:


What happened to all the experienced forwards that Iwobi and Iheanacho are ahead of them in the Super Eagles. Experience is overrated. Play the best.

shogz89:
Bros don't overrate experience,, there are some situation that your experience won't help you but individual brilliance... If that's the case petr chec won't have been sold to arsenal... All this keeper stuff self,, if you don't have a good defense, even the most experience goalie will concede stupid goals... Example De gea, courtois of last season and so on.. Our major concern should be the defence.

Mickael2:


read your comment again, you used that as a low point for Ndidi, am jus telling you that Onazi is worse in that aspect.

please, do yourself a favour go to whoscored.com or transfermarket.com and check their stats, their is absolutely no comparison there not to mention that Ndidi is playing for not just any low level team, but one of the top teams in the Belgian league while Onazi is playing for a low level team in Turkey AKA the retirement league. in fact if you make that comparison on whoscored.com they will tell you that it is ridiculous

TheGoodJoe:


Iheanacho was our most dangerous player in that game. The goal came from his shot if I remember well. Siasia opting to drop Iheanacho and Iwobi was a big mistake.

Mickael2:


but we all know the coach didn't invite the best for that match, that's different

Mickael2:


Kelechi played the first leg and he wasn't outstanding so he didn't really merit anybody there. and besides who replaced them? Aminu Umar isn't really an experienced replacement so they are all the same thing

Mickael2:

Arsenal with Cech finished above Chelsea with Courtouis, never underestimate that factor called experience

lakesidepapa:


I'm telling u if Eddy have his way to Genk, he will demote him to the bench. Did u watch the Nigeria game against france in 2014? Club doesn't count here and it doesn't play any role. We are talking about quality player. Ndidi is good, not doubt about that, he should come to a very competitive and better league.

lakesidepapa:


I'm telling u if Eddy have his way to Genk, he will demote him to the bench. Did u watch the Nigeria game against france in 2014? Club doesn't count here and it doesn't play any role. We are talking about quality player. Ndidi is good, not doubt about that, he should come to a very competitive and better league.

Mickael2:


Ndidi has more experience than Onazi, do you think that is easy to play in the Europa league, remove experience there. meanwhile go and check what I told, Onazi's average rating is 6.3 while that if Ndidi is 7.5,how can you even start comparing that at all??! not to mention that Onazi has scored only two goals all season long while Ndidi has scored that amount in the Europa league alone, go figure

safarigirl:
Kelechi wasn't outstanding in the first leg, is it not his rebound that got you your lone goal? Where were all your experienced players when he was hustling his behind for a goal? .3 Sometimes y'all will just switch your narrative to suit your argument

Thank God you didn't try to justify Iwobi's exclusion.

Experience cost us our AFCON place

lakesidepapa:


See lemme tell u something, I don't believe in all these stats. Those statisticians that bring these up don't put in some considerations.

TheGoodJoe:


Onazi is a beast when you look at the distance he covers, the high intensity he plays with and the astonishing number of tackles he makes.

But, if we look at it from the Super Eagles being a unit in building repeated attacking plays, Onazi reduces that coherency.

Ndidi can also Marshall the midfield defensively although I doubt he can do it like Onazi but he helps in build-up plays. Remember his combinations with Raheem Lawal in the friendly. Onazi can not make such contributions.

With Mikel, Iwobi, Iheanacho in the team, Ndidi will make a smooth addition to the passing pack.

TheGoodJoe:


Onazi is a beast when you look at the distance he covers, the high intensity he plays with and the astonishing number of tackles he makes.

But, if we look at it from the Super Eagles being a unit in building repeated attacking plays, Onazi reduces that coherency.

Ndidi can also Marshall the midfield defensively although I doubt he can do it like Onazi but he helps in build-up plays. Remember his combinations with Raheem Lawal in the friendly. Onazi can not make such contributions.

With Mikel, Iwobi, Iheanacho in the team, Ndidi will make a smooth addition to the passing pack.

shogz89:
so the difference was the keeper? Courtois faced chec in the champions league and chec was on the receiving end how about that?

goldfish80:
I thought you were talking up Portuguese 3rd tier.

TheGoodJoe:


Let us stick to coverage and blockage. Leave out experience, trusted, tested etc.

From general assessment and the way we play, I will not feel shocked if Rohr drops Onazi for Ndidi. Our build-up play is vital to our system and if we build-up better, we will not need that much blockage.

I agree with Mickael2 that we need to keep the ball better to cause the Algerians havoc. Ndidi takes it for me.

Mickael2:


experience isn't the ultimate but it is important. That has been my point all along

Mickael2:


scoring a goal does not make you outstanding. a player can score a hat trick and still have a poor game.
anyways that ship has sailed, like I said he didn't replace them with experienced players either so I don't get your point