A bit of fun.

Jehovah is a name for God, because many use that name for God

YHWH is possibly Yahovah or Yahweh, and maybe it is something else


Yahweh, I like to pronounce it: Yourway, Yah-your



Jesus name in Hebrew is Yehoshua, I like to pronounced it: yes-you-are, I like that.

"Yourway" God is the way

"Yesyouare" God is, the self existent, I AM

I think those pronunciations are also good meanings for God, you might not find them in a dictionary though,
God cannot be contained in a dictionary, or even the Bible, all the books ever written could not tell all of God.


The Hebrew Yehoshua and Yahovah sound quite similar.

brocab:
It shows Satan's final deception is with the JW's

I tell you.
Dolphinheart has denied that Jehovah is the only God,but recognise the devil as a true god. It all started when he deny the Son Jesus Christ.
Anybody that deny the Son must also deny the father.

1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

brocab:
Jesus was "Called the Son of God" it doesn't mean He truly is. The bible describe Him as a part being of God-3 in One, I and the Father are One. It took all three to create the heavens and the Earth.

1.you have now flipped back, agreing that you said Jesus is not the son of God.
2. The scriptures never ever in any verse say or implied that God is 3 in 1. It repeatedly tells you that God is one, the father!, Jesus tells you that God is the father, the disciples tells you that God is the father!

There The is no-mention God even had a Son in the Old Testament.

you don't need to split the scriptures to find a leeway, all the scriptures are from jehovah and he determines when to reveal certain things to us.
When did Jehovah send Jesus (read carefully)
Heb 1:1Long ago God spoke to our forefathers by means of the prophets on many occasions and in many ways.
Heb 1:2 Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.
Do you understand, God spoke to us through his son, his heir, at a particular time!. God sent someone to us, he said the person he sent is his son, his servant, his only begotten son, who he later exalted and put at his right side .

Jesus is preferred as God in the scriptures, {John 1:1,14}

The disCiples tell us(in verses that cannot be disputed) that the father is their God, he is also the God of jesus(even after Jesus had gone to heaven). Jesus tells us that the father commands him, sent him and that the father is his God and our God, in no verse had Jesus ever said he is our God!
You formulate things from derived analogy, refusing to see the direct statements from the scriptures

{John 20:28} Thomas said My Lord and My God.
{Titus 2:13} Wait for the coming of our God and savour Jesus Christ.
Thomas knew God who came in the flesh.
{Hebrews 1:8} The Father say's to His Son, your throne O'God is forever and ever..
Now why would the Most High call Jesus O'God-if they weren't One with each other, God saves-Jesus saves and came here to live amongst men and He became knowing to His people, He is the Son Of God.
It was the Spirit that told "John the baptised" who also was filled with the Holy Spirit, was told this is My Son in Him I Am well pleased.
Not everyone around John that day, heard the Spirit say this to John.
If they did they wouldn't try and stone Jesus when He called Himself the Son of God.
So how simple does this sound-it must be difficult, only because the Spirit of God isn't in you-for anyone else who has the Spirit of God in them, understands how simple this is.

The last time all of these where explained to you, you ran away

@Brocab. Look at the scriptures I quote very well. It's 1 Corinthians 11:3 not 1 Corinthians 11:31. Brocab said 'Catholic's don't read the bible well enough to know {Matthew 6:6-13, God said we must pray to Him directly}'. Brocab, when including 'God' in your statement put the name in front or better still put triune in front. I (achorladey) only want clarity on that. Answer to your(brocab) question is right there in this your own statement, 'So when it comes to judge, we have the rights-to test the Spirits {1 John 4:1 believe "Not" every Spirit, but try the spirits weather they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world'.
Spiritometer or whatever test needed to be carried out is contained in 1 John 4:2,3. Now my own question: If you carry out this test on the JWs,what will be the outcome. Please be sincere knowing fully well that the JWs had said the Ransom was the greatest gift to man, and he is the greatest man who ever lived. I am aware as well that the JWs are very familiar and make use of John 3:16 and 17:3.

Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
If one is spiritually mature the wisdom he carries must be on level footing with James 3:17. Skillful use of God's word is required as well. Can you see reasons why I want you to make proper application of scriptures quoted. One's reasonableness must be seen by all even when conversing.

brocab:
Didn't you hear me correctly-the creator's name appears In Modern KJV as Jehovah, 7 Times-some say 4 times in the 1611 "Iehovah".

brocab, be sincere, which kjv version are you using, and does the word Jehovah appear in that version?
If the name Jehovah appears in the translation that you fully accepted , do you view the use of that word as silly?

I know you can't seem to get it through your head but God has many different names-in different languages-and you believe Jehovah is the only name that's given to God. Well you are wrong once again.

Jehovah is English , most languages have their own way of transliterating the tetragrammaton. The Hebrews and Greeks do not pronounce God's son name as "jesus" or do they?, they pronounce it differently . people who speak yoruba here pronounce it as "jesu". people who speak English say " jesus".

Secondly , I'll like to ask you, what name did God tell you directly that he bears, he told us directly that "this is my name".

Let's look up Wikipedia and let it tell us where and how the name Jehovah came into place-but first-what you are not understanding is Jehovah's name didn't carry on through the hole bible.? {7 times only} And it really doesn't make sense-why only 7 times-why not the hole bible? And another thing Dolphinheart if Jehovah is God's name then why is Jehovah the LORD's name too?
Iehovah El, Elohim, I Am, Savour, Shepherd, Lord, and it keeps on going-He said to Moses "I Am "That I Am" in this case God can be anyone-who He pleases to be-and I still believe Jehovah sounds silly-because Jehovah was only written no-more then 7 times in the hole KJV.

You are very much confused , the Hebrew tetragrammaton which is translated as Jehovah in the kjv of occurs over 6000 times in the scriptures, you need to ask the authors of the kjv why they translated it only seven or 4 times as Jehovah, and refuse to do so for the about 6000 other times the word was found in the scriptures. probably they wanted to help the devil in hiding God's name!

It is interesting to see them translate God's name as "lord" when there is another Hebrew word for lord, and those two Hebrew words don't mean the same things. It is this action of the kjv that is confusing you, thinking God's name only occurs a few times in the scriptures, no wonder you could not answer me if the
tetragrammaton is present in a particular verse.

And yet the Names [color=#000099]LORD Lord and God is written throughout. The Wikipedia say's The proper name in Hebrew for God is YHWH--The consensus among scholars is that the historical vocalization of the telegrammaton at the time of the redaction of the Torah {6th century BCE} is most likely Yahweh. The historical vocalization was lost because in {Second Temple Judaism} During the 3rd and 2 Centuries BCE. the pronunciation of the telegrammaton came to be avoided being substituted with {Adonai} "My Lord" The Hebrew Vowel points of {Adonai} were added to the telegrammaton by the Masoretes and the resulting form was transliterated around the 12 century as Yahweh.
The derive forms Iehovah-Jehovah first appeared in the 16th century.
Jehovah was popularised in the English speaking world by William Tyndale, and other pioneer English protestants translations such as Geneva bible and the King James version, it is still used in some translations, such as the New World Translation and Young's literal translation. But it does not appear in most mainstream English translations, as the term Lord or LORD used instead generally indicating that the corresponding is Yahweh or YHWH.
So by this it was Man, not God who pronounce God's Name Jehovah.
Read up on your history Dolphinheart. and Haba back to you..

You are learning small small, you have seen how people who wanted to hide God's name, like their forefathers did , replaced God's name with LORD,Lord and God, knowing fully well that their are other Hebrew words for them, and they don't have the same meaning.
This deliberate action(created by the devil and followed by your forefathers) has prevented people from knowing how the true pronunciation of God's name sounds, Jehovah is the generally agreed pronunciation in English, that is why the tetragrammaton is translated as such in English, even though those who want to remove Gods name change it to a title most times!

A simple question for Johnw74 and Brocab. For the JWs to have everlasting life, in what manner did Jesus say they are to view him according to these two scriptures? John 3:16, John 17:3. Please read the scriptures before answering. Are they(JWs) to view Jesus as the (Almighty God) or view him as the only begotten Son of God. John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

@Brocab I cast my eye back on one of your reply to my post bordering on this Bible verse Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?. Please I am particular about the particular word 'he' in that verse. Who do you think the 'he' represent? You are spiritually mature make good use of the skills to answer that question.

Am I suppose to answer this-after you have tamped with my page..And it is not 6000 times Dolphinheart it's over 6800 times Lord is written in the Bible-and Jehovah 7 times, some say 4 times.
And really if this is God's true name-instead of Lord-then His name would be written in all the bibles, but it isn't. It's Lord all God in the English Language.
God had told me who He is, "I Am that I Am..Meaning He is.
Their are many names given to God-and in most bible's in the English language we Only see his name as Lord all God the Father.
As you have been saying to Johnw74 Jehovah isn't the name of God, nor He is the name of the Lord?
This is how silly you sound-you believe in Jehovah but he isn't either of the above.
Different languages have their own names-Elohim meaning {God} we don't see to many of these names written in most bibles, Yahweh means {Lord Jehovah} El Elyon means {The most high God} Adonai means {Lord Master} El shaddai means {Lord God Almighty} El Oham means {The everlasting God}
And the names keep on Going-So really if you have more sense, which you don't, just these few names have meanings-to them in different languages-and in The English Language it's Lord or it's God the Father in most bibles.
And in your case, Jehovah doesn't mean Lord, nor does it mean God-so what does Jehovah mean to you?

dolphinheart:

brocab, be sincere, which kjv version are you using, and does the word Jehovah appear in that version?
If the name Jehovah appears in the translation that you fully accepted , do you view the use of that word as silly?


Jehovah is English , most languages have their own way of transliterating the tetragrammaton. The Hebrews and Greeks do not pronounce God's son name as "jesus" it's "Iesus" same with "Iehovah" or "Iohn" but the true spelling is "Yahweh" in English Iesus is spell Jesus-John, Jehovah-is that's right?, our scholars received this name from the text the name was broken down from YAY-HO WAH they pronounce it differently . people who speak yoruba here pronounce it as "jesu". people who speak English say " jesus".

Secondly , I'll like to ask you, what name did God tell you directly that he bears, he told us directly that "this is my name".

{Hebrew 1:5-7} This is what you should be reading none of the Angels were seated on the throne of God. God said all the angels are to worship His Son-and if you are thinking Michael is Jesus-than ask yourself this Question, Could Michael rebuke the devil?{Jude 1:9}
Are you trying to be my teacher? Listen the Holy Spirit teachers me. If I am looking for another, then I don't need you.
And I couldn't learn from you anyway, because you don't even know what side of the fence you are standing on, You are either with the JW's or you are with God?
You can't worship them both-you will either hate the one, and love the other.

achorladey:
@Brocab I cast my eye back on one of your reply to my post bordering on this Bible verse Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?. Please I am particular about the particular word 'he' in that verse. Who do you think the 'he' represent? You are spiritually mature make good use of the skills to answer that question.

Conversation between achorladey, Johnw74 and Brocab
Achorladey: when issues are discussed please don't attack the personality. It is easy to say am judgemental but there is nothing bad for you(Brocab) to align with those who call the JWs false JWs according to Johnw74.
Brocab: Johnw74 isn't actually calling the people false, he is more preferring to their teaching.
Brocab: Johnw74 is a true man of God, the words he speaks are not His own Words, but God's alone.
Johnw74: False JWs are antichrist.
Achorladey: And here is the mind which hath wisdom. Is Johnw74 attacking the personality or their teachings? YOU DECIDE!!!!
Achorladey: If there are 'false' JWs has said by Johnw74 perhaps there may be 'true' JWs. Johnw74 tell me more.

solite3:
[ here you go again! I will skip this

no problem, as long as the issue does not occur again

did you see any contradiction in my post?

did I say the contradiction is in your post ? Go back to that post and read it very well, you are trying to avoid what I said their!

other gods that are false gods?
John17:3 has already render other gods apart from God as false. if there are other gods and yet only one is the true God even a 3yrs old will tell you they are false?

that is your own understanding, the verse never said so!, note the verse only identifies the father as the only true God, it did not say God is the only true God. The verse also separates the person of jesus from the father!
The verse also corresponds with all the other verses in the scriptures where jesus and the disciples identified the father as the one God, as their God and the only true God.

to you pagans they are gods but to we christians they are no gods for there is only one God.
All others false gods!

1. Are you saying God is in the midst of false God's?
2. cus stating the disciples statement in full will expose you, so you cut off who they identified as the one God? they said : there is actually to us one God, the Father!
The father is the one God jesus and the disciples worship, that means your one God is different from the one God of the disciples.

We also know that jesus is the mediator between us and that one God, always pleading for us at the side of that one God!, so jesus is not that one God!
1Ti 2:5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,
Ro 8:34Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us.
Almighty god is not at the right hand of himself pleading to himself! stop the false derived teachings solite3.

depends on which heaven,

@ bold yea they are gods but they are false gods


John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


It is a shame you dont believe Jesus words neither Jehovah's word.

so which heaven was that verse talking about?
who did that verse identify as our God?
who did jesus identify as the only true God?
Note, refusal to answer these questions will end our discussion for a while.

And Jesus told you he and his father are one.

pls confirm if the following answers are right or wrong, your refusal to confirm means they are right
1. did jesus say he and the father are one God? No
2. Did jess request that his disciples be one just as he and the father are one? Yes
3. does the disciples being one mean they are one person or human? No
4. did jesus request that the disciples become one with him and the father? Yes
5. Does this mean they become God? no?
6. does this mean they become one God or part of the persons in one god? No

IF THE ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTIONS ARE CORRECT, THEN IT MEANS BEING ONE WITH ANOTHER DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE ONE PERSON, ONE GOD OR ONE ENTITY!

what a shame! This is how you have degenerated to. 
In order words Jehovah is not the only true God.
Hummmmm. 

Which god has the same nature as Jehovah?

The shame is on you, cus you could not agree with the scriptures that the father is the only true God.
answer to your question: jesus , and the angels . They are all spirits!, they are called god, gods.

very stupid of you.
Who is the god of this world? you need a brain check. After Jesus has declared only Jehovah as the true God?

being abusive with the use of derogatory words will not stop me from asking you to answer the question!
who is the God of this world as mentioned in 2 cor 4:4?

and Jehovah said there are no other god? 
you cant differentiate between a metaphor and a literal word?

simple question , you prefer to rant than to answer!

2. who are the gods that God has taken his place in the mist of?
English Standard Version
God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:

[quote]Jehovah is the most high of deities that are worship by men.
Does this make those deities truly are gods? Mtscheeew!

Jehovah wunt be higher than any other god IF THERE ARE NO OTHER GOD!,
you can't be a higher human than a dog, cus the dog is not a human, but you can be a higher animal than the dog cus the dog is an animal.
You can't be a better thing if you are the only thing, it is the presence of other things that determines if you are better or higher.
It is the present of other gods that determines how high a god Jehovah is, that is why the scriptures said he is the most high, the highest, the supreme being!

the god of this world have blinded your eyes thats why you thin the devil is God. 
False witness, you said Jesus is a god, while the devil is God.
Why dont you go and worship your idol god satan who masqurades as Jehovah.
Satan witnesses like father like son.
I m not surprise though.

1. you scratched my statement, are you saying they are false, are you saying Jehovah sits in the midst of false gods?
Your answer is very important.

2.pls snow where I said " the devil is God"
refusal to show where I said so will mean you are a liar who uses false accusations!
If you do not show me, I might not respond to your reply, I don't like people who make false accusations.

3. I asked a simple question, you refused to answer: Is the god of these world an idol?

my father is a human and i m the son of my father therefore i m not a lesser human than my father Jesus has God's nature therefore Jesus is not a lesser God than his father.

1. Are my statements wrong: "you have same nature with your father, it does not make you your father or equal to your father! YOU ARE TWO DIFFERENT BEING, Jesus SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, HE IS NOT THE GOD HE IS SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF."

I personally believe that the above statements are correct.

2. tHe following are facts(dispute them, note they are numbered)
1.your father is a different person from you despite the fact that both of you are human.
2. your father is a different human from you, he has a mind and body different from yours
3. even though you have same nature as your father, you have different personalities, bodies, talents, skills, shape, features, will, thinking , opinion, views, fellings from your father.
4. If the above are true , then you are both humans, but not the same human , and definitely not the same being!

Quote by achorladey-Johnw74 false JW's are Antichrist, again he isn't talking directly to the person he is talking to the organisation JWs. If you studied about them-or with them as I have-you will know the large amounts of differences between what is truth and what is not truth.
But if you want to change the minds of the believers-you are going the wrong way about it, you are expecting us to follow after another organisation that doesn't follow Christ the same way we see Christ, you are barking up the wrong tree.
You haven't the slightest idea about the Spirit of God-once you believe there's no turning back.
If he was talking directly to the person-he wouldn't be calling he/she JW's.

achorladey:
Conversation between achorladey, Johnw74 and Brocab
Achorladey: when issues are discussed please don't attack the personality. It is easy to say am judgemental but there is nothing bad for you(Brocab) to align with those who call the JWs false JWs according to Johnw74.
Brocab: Johnw74 isn't actually calling the people false, he is more preferring to their teaching.
Brocab: Johnw74 is a true man of God, the words he speaks are not His own Words, but God's alone.
Johnw74: False JWs are antichrist.
Achorladey: And here is the mind which hath wisdom. Is Johnw74 attacking the personality or their teachings? YOU DECIDE!!!!
Achorladey: If there are 'false' JWs has said by Johnw74 perhaps there may be 'true' JWs. Johnw74 tell me more.

johnw74:


How you love to lie, again the subject is "Jehovah means God", that's the subject you have changed.

in all my post to you on these issue, I've always said with facts that Jehovah does not mean God, I've shown you that no one except you says "Jehovah means God"
I've shown you the Hebrew word for God and it's numbering, they did not say God means Jehovah.
I've shown you that Jehovah is the name of God.

see your lies, again the subject that you are running away from is "Jehovah means God" not "Jehovah is the name of God", that is true also, but not the subject oh lying one.

The subject I'm after is Jehovah is the name of God, that was my first statement when this issue began, it's good you have accepted that Jehovah is the name of God, but no one has ever said Jehovah means God except you.

No lie lie you have not once given proof that Jehovah doesn't mean God, you even said in one of your posts that Jehovah does mean God, and it wasn't a typo, it was confusion like most of the rest that you say, what a lie lie you are.

dwell on it all you want, it was a typo error that has been corrected.

I certinally do believe that Jehovah is a name for God, I could say it a hundred times and you would still say I don't,
showing that you are fully entrenched in lying

I never said you don't believe that Jehovah is a name for God, you created such beliefs yourself, but I know you don't believe and agree that Jehovah is the name of God as stated by the dictionaries , the bible and even your own kjv, none of the aforementioned ever said Jehovah is a name for God(a statement for emulated by you and your kind)


how you do love to lie and take after your god.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jehovah is a name for God, have never altered that
funny you don't post all these quotes of things you claim I said and done, ha ha

you way heap big lie lie dolphinheart

you did not alter what you believed in, you altered what the dictionaries and bible said , Jehovah is the name of God.
dictionaries and the kjv: " Jehovah is the name of God"
johnw74: "Jehovah is a name for God"
totally different statements!

johnw74:


ha ha oh self righteous lie lie dolphinheart

look at how you use every means known to lie, just like your god does


"You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha", <<< is a sentence of mine

and you are making out that you never said that same sentence, no you didn't

you have been posting on Jehovah means the name of God
and you have been posting on Jehovah doesn't mean God

and so my sentence is completely correct:

"You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha"


you lie lie dolphinheart love to lie, twist, change the subject, play on words and use every means to lie and avoid the truth just like your god does

Again I will state, stop lying , I never said Jehovah means the name of God!

solite3:
I tell you.
Dolphinheart has denied that Jehovah is the only God,but recognise the devil as a true god. It all started when he deny the Son Jesus Christ.
Anybody that deny the Son must also deny the father.

1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

YOUR LIES ARE GIGANTIC, YOU HAVE JOINED THE CREW OF BIG TIME LIARS!

Yes we all know about the JW's and what they truly believe in.
But you know bro-the blind see the scriptures, more than they, we will always come up against organisations who are full of atheist such as these-who are always against the truth, there are more people in Church today, then there is outside the Churches who still don't know what is truth, and the Lord has used people like us-who are willing to study the word of God, and spreading it across the nations.
This is all I am concerned about is that you and I are growing more towards the Lord.
The truth is standing on Dolhinheart's door-all he needs to do is open it.
Talking with these none believers allows us to study up on the Word Of God-and it is giving us the opportunity to know the truth about the Lord on daily bases.
Plus it's good practise-talking with atheist such as these-ones who believe they know it all, and they don't.
Even the atheist believe in God. Just like the JW's they believe in a god too. Which God?

solite3:
I tell you.
Dolphinheart has denied that Jehovah is the only God,but recognise the devil as a true god. It all started when he deny the Son Jesus Christ.
Anybody that deny the Son must also deny the father.

1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

@BroCab let me ask you this question. Is an organisation a person at law Yes/No. If yes, can the organisation be sued/can the organisation Sue someone. Can you see where am coming from? All this things wey I dey follow you talk na to help you reason wella. Since I no be your teacher I finally rest my case. But one last kweshion
Brocab: {Hebrew 1:5-7} This is what you should be reading none of the Angels were seated on the throne of God. God said all the angels are to worship His Son.
Achorladey: Who is the 'He' in verse 5? Who is the 'God', who is the 'Son'. Why is the 'God' subjecting others to the Son to be worshipped. If God equal Son, verse 6 is irrelevant because the angels don't need to be told to worship their God.
Revelation 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

brocab:
Am I suppose to answer this-after you have tamped with my page..And it is not 6000 times Dolphinheart it's over 6800 times Lord is written in the Bible-and Jehovah 7 times, some say 4 times.

1.Issue has been corrected , so answer the questions there.
2. I've searched, there is no where I said the God's name is written 6000 times. If I'm wrong, pls show proof, or it adds to the numerous lies you have been spilling on these thread!
3. pls does your bible use "jehovah" a name you claim is silly!, where they wrong to use the word?

And really if this is God's true name-instead of Lord-then His name would be written in all the bibles, but it isn't. It's Lord all God in the English Language.
God had told me who He is, "I Am that I Am..Meaning He is.

good you mentioned this , more and more translations are stopping this attempt by some to remove God's name from the scriptures and replace it with a title!
The good is realities who wrote the Hebrew scriptures put God's name their, the evil ones replaced it with a title, God said he wants his name known!

Their are many names given to God-and in most bible's in the English language we Only see his name as Lord all God the Father.
As you have been saying to Johnw74 Jehovah isn't the name of God, nor He is the name of the Lord?

1. You are so full of lies, where did I say jehovah is not the name of God, I wonder how your conscience does not pick you when you make up such blatant lies!
2.pls tell us the name(s) that God directly tells you is his name, anybody can give God any name, but which one did God directly tell you is his name!

This is how silly you sound-you believe in Jehovah but he isn't either of the above.
Different languages have their own names-Elohim meaning {God} we don't see to many of these names written in most bibles, Yahweh means {Lord Jehovah} El Elyon means {The most high God} Adonai means {Lord Master} El shaddai means {Lord God Almighty} El Oham means {The everlasting God}
And the names keep on Going-So really if you have more sense, which you don't, just these few names have meanings-to them in different languages-and in The English Language it's Lord or it's God the Father in most bibles.
And in your case, Jehovah doesn't mean Lord, nor does it mean God-so what does Jehovah mean to you?

titles are now names to know, see what the kjv have done to you.

achorladey you came to us calling yourself a Catholic-maybe from birth-since then you are a JW, An organisation is a group-not just you in one place.
Are you expecting me to answer these questions, that not even you believe in yourself.
And who is the Lamb? In {Revelation 1:11-14} the lamb who the angels and everyone in Heaven and on the Earth and under the Earth and such are in the sea-worshipped "HIM" Not them "HIM IS THE LAMB" "Jesus" is the only Lord God sitting on the throne.

achorladey:
@BroCab let me ask you this question. Is an organisation a person at law Yes/No. If yes, can the organisation be sued/can the organisation Sue someone. Can you see where am coming from? All this things wey I dey follow you talk na to help you reason wella. Since I no be your teacher I finally rest my case. But one last kweshion
Brocab: {Hebrew 1:5-7} This is what you should be reading none of the Angels were seated on the throne of God. God said all the angels are to worship His Son.
Achorladey: Who is the 'He' in verse 5? Who is the 'God', who is the 'Son'. Why is the 'God' subjecting others to the Son to be worshipped. If God equal Son, verse 6 is irrelevant because the angels don't need to be told to worship their God.
Revelation 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

The JW's are still blaming the bible. 7 times is my answer.
The KJV translators used the name Jehovah wherever the name Yahweh was found, under one of the following 3 conditions.
{1} When YHWH was used as God's personal name.
{Exodus 6:3} And I appeared unto Abraham unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God almighty, but by My name Jehovah was I not known to them.
{Psalms 83:18} That men may know that thru, whom's name alone Jehovah art the most high over all the Earth.
{2} When God's name is repented as Jah "Jehovah"
{Isaiah 12:2} Behold, God is My Salvation, I will trust and not be afraid, for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song, He also become my Salvation. This scripture tells it as sound-Jesus is Lord Jehovah and He also be my salvation.
{Isaiah 26:4} Trust ye, in the Lord forever, for the Lord Jehovah is everlasting strength.
{3} When God's name is part of a place name.
Jehovah Jireh
{Genesis 22;14} And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah Jireh, as it said to this day, in the mount of the Lord it shall be seen.
Jehovah nissi
{Exodus 17:15} And Moses built an altar, and called the name of Jehovah nissi.
Jehovah Slamom
{Judges 6:24} Then Gideon built an altar there unto the Lord, and called it Jehovah Slamom: unto this day it is yet an Ophrah of the Abi-ezrites.
So Jehovah's name isn't just about the Lord, it's about a place.

dolphinheart:

1.Issue has been corrected , so answer the questions there.
2. I've searched, there is no where I said the God's name is written 6000 times. If I'm wrong, pls show proof, or it adds to the numerous lies you have been spilling on these thread!
3. pls does your bible use "jehovah" a name you claim is silly!, where they wrong to use the word?


good you mentioned this , more and more translations are stopping this attempt by some to remove God's name from the scriptures and replace it with a title!
The good is realities who wrote the Hebrew scriptures put God's name their, the evil ones replaced it with a title, God said he wants his name known!


1. You are so full of lies, where did I say jehovah is not the name of God, I wonder how your conscience does not pick you when you make up such blatant lies!
2.pls tell us the name(s) that God directly tells you is his name, anybody can give God any name, but which one did God directly tell you is his name!


titles are now names to know, see what the kjv have done to you.

You don't even know what the telegrammaton is?

dolphinheart:

brocab, be sincere, which kjv version are you using, and does the word Jehovah appear in that version?
If the name Jehovah appears in the translation that you fully accepted , do you view the use of that word as silly?


Jehovah is English , most languages have their own way of transliterating the tetragrammaton. The Hebrews and Greeks do not pronounce God's son name as "jesus" or do they?, they pronounce it differently . people who speak yoruba here pronounce it as "jesu". people who speak English say " jesus".

Secondly , I'll like to ask you, what name did God tell you directly that he bears, he told us directly that "this is my name".


You are very much confused , the Hebrew tetragrammaton which is translated as Jehovah in the kjv of occurs over 6000 times in the scriptures, you need to ask the authors of the kjv why they translated it only seven or 4 times as Jehovah, and refuse to do so for the about 6000 other times the word was found in the scriptures. probably they wanted to help the devil in hiding God's name!

It is interesting to see them translate God's name as "lord" when there is another Hebrew word for lord, and those two Hebrew words don't mean the same things. It is this action of the kjv that is confusing you, thinking God's name only occurs a few times in the scriptures, no wonder you could not answer me if the
tetragrammaton is present in a particular verse.



You are learning small small, you have seen how people who wanted to hide God's name, like their forefathers did , replaced God's name with LORD,Lord and God, knowing fully well that their are other Hebrew words for them, and they don't have the same meaning.
This deliberate action(created by the devil and followed by your forefathers) has prevented people from knowing how the true pronunciation of God's name sounds, Jehovah is the generally agreed pronunciation in English, that is why the tetragrammaton is translated as such in English, even though those who want to remove Gods name change it to a title most times!

Typical Jehovah witness, you raised the point that where was Jesus called the Most High, after I answered you. You have to find another way deceiving yourself the more.

Barristter07:
All this gra gra will not help you, Psalm 47:2 is still reffering to Jehovah . which some translations substituted with " LORD " , so it still establish it that Jehovah is the MOST HIGH . the question still remains , is Jesus the most High ?

Then who says Psalm 47:2 isn't talking about Jehovah?

I believe every seeker of the truth knows the reason why I quoted Psalm 47:2

Now, why do you think I haven't answered your question when my post can be digest even by a primary school student.?

let's proceed and see if you will be able to answer this

Let's see what you have to say

@ the word "Supreme"

the Supreme court of Nigeria as an example to emphasize the meaning of the word most high . you will agree with me that the most high Court in Nigeria is THE SUPREME court . its the highest, does it sound intelligent that Supreme Court still have a Court in Nigeria greater than it is ?? abeg, if that's the case it won't be the Supreme or most High.

now, If Jesus is the SUPREME or Most High @ bold, Can the Supreme being still have a God ?
imagine the most high Saying " MY GOD " illogical!!! . you will never find such utterance from Jehovah

food for the intelligent mind!
Can the Most High / the Supreme still have A God?

Attacking strawman as usual.
The point isn't who is highest the main point here is [size=14pt]why will Jesus BE CALLED THE MOST HIGH if only Jehovah is the Most High? Does this mean Jesus and Jehovah are dragging the position of the MOST HIGH?[/size]

Of course , Jehovah is the most high .. He is the God of everyone including Jesus Christ himself . this the scripture testifies , so its fitting!

Still perambulating like footballer.

Summary!
Who is the Most High?
Jehovah is the Most High
The Most High is the king over all the earth
and Jesus Christ is the King over all the earth
Then Jesus=The Most High=Jehovah
Simple arithmetic!

the bolded part is the only reasonable part of the above post and to which I will reply.

You claimed it to be a reasonable part yet you failed to pick the actual point there, which is the reason why Jesus was called the Most High too. Hypocrite!

was Jesus exalted by someone?
why would the Most high still need someone to exalt him since he is the most high ?

Furthermore, does this not prove that the one who Exalt him is GREATER than Jesus ?
If someone is GREATER than Jesus, does that not automatically disqualify him from the title " Most High " ?

Still attacking strawman,
Psalm also said Jehovah is exalted above all gods.

Then who exalted Jehovah above these gods?

Well Jehovah isn't the name of God, it's the Lord.

dolphinheart:

1.Issue has been corrected , so answer the questions there.
2. I've searched, there is no where I said the God's name is written 6000 times. If I'm wrong, pls show proof, or it adds to the numerous lies you have been spilling on these thread!
3. pls does your bible use "jehovah" a name you claim is silly!, where they wrong to use the word?


good you mentioned this , more and more translations are stopping this attempt by some to remove God's name from the scriptures and replace it with a title!
The good is realities who wrote the Hebrew scriptures put God's name their, the evil ones replaced it with a title, God said he wants his name known!


1. You are so full of lies, where did I say jehovah is not the name of God, I wonder how your conscience does not pick you when you make up such blatant lies!
2.pls tell us the name(s) that God directly tells you is his name, anybody can give God any name, but which one did God directly tell you is his name!


titles are now names to know, see what the kjv have done to you.

dolphinheart:

in all my post to you on these issue, I've always said with facts that Jehovah does not mean God, I've shown you that no one except you says "Jehovah means God"

lie lie dolphinheart

duh the same repeated lies from you over and over again

yet you cannot produce quotes where you factually showed that Jehovah doesn't mean God,
produce just one quote lie lie dolphinheart where you factually showed that Jehovah doesn't mean God.

dolphinheart:


I've shown you the Hebrew word for God and it's numbering, they did not say God means Jehovah.
I've shown you that Jehovah is the name of God.

duh the Strongs dictionary doesn't say a lot of things but it did show:
Jehovah means the self existent, and Christians know that the self existent means God
self existent(adjective) describes God, the self existent(noun) means God

But I do understand how false jw doesn't believe Jehovah means God

dolphinheart:


The subject I'm after is Jehovah is the name of God, that was my first statement when this issue began, it's good you have accepted that Jehovah is the name of God, but no one has ever said Jehovah means God except you.

ha ha who doesn't know Jehovah is the-a name for God, it has not been disputed here even once
but you keep changing the subject post after post, day after day, running away from "Jehovah means God"

dolphinheart:


dwell on it all you want, it was a typo error that has been corrected.

such a twister-lie lie, using every means of lying you can invent

lie lie, a typo is a mispelling or similar,
saying something diffrent or using diffrent words or leaving out words is confusion.

dolphinheart:


AS YOU CAN FROM THE SCRIPTURES AND DICTIONARIES AND EVEN FROM YOUR QUOTE, JEHOVAH IS THE NAME OF THE GOD OF THE ISREALITES, JEHOVAH DOES MEAN GOD!. Stop derived analogy, it does not work, that jehovah is the only self existant God does not mean jehovah means God!

a typo ha ha such a lie lie, and look at the underlined:
"that jehovah is the only self existant God does not mean jehovah means God!"

ha ha, Jehovah means the only self existent God, but Jehovah doesn't means God

by the way the Strongs dictionary gives meaning to the word Jehovah,
according to Strongs, Jehovah means the self existent,
lie lie changes it to Jehovah "is" the self existent,
and whereas that also is true, lie lie trys to evade that Jehovah also means the self existent,
not just is the self existent, but means the self existent.


such a huge lie lie deceiver you are.

dolphinheart:


I never said you don't believe that Jehovah is a name for God, you created such beliefs yourself, but I know you don't believe and agree that Jehovah is the name of God as stated by the dictionaries , the bible and even your own kjv, none of the aforementioned ever said Jehovah is a name for God(a statement for emulated by you and your kind)


how you do love to lie and take after your god.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

duh such a confused lie lie, if God had only one name then I couldn't say Jehovah is "a" name for God
but as He has many names I am correct and you remain confused

God said to moses, tell them I am has sent you
God said before I was known as YHWH I was known as God Almighty

you lie lie keep changing the subject to many other things in your running away from "Jehovah means God"

dolphinheart:


you did not alter what you believed in, you altered what the dictionaries and bible said , Jehovah is the name of God.
dictionaries and the kjv: " Jehovah is the name of God"
johnw74: "Jehovah is a name for God"
totally different statements!

no lie lie, never altered dictionary or Bible at all
but I have agreed many times that Jehovah means the name of God,
however your lying accusations have no end.
As you know that is not the only meaning the dictionary gives for Jehovah
it also gives that Jehovah means the self existent which is what I have been talking about from the beginning
and which you have been trying to confuse and run away from ever since.

If there is a bigger lie lie in the whole of N/forums than lie lie dolphinheart,
then I have not come across him.

You are a copy cat and false accuser

whereas I truly say:

how you do love to lie and take after your god.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

dolphinheart:


Again I will state, stop lying , I never said Jehovah means the name of God!

false accuser copy cat lie lie dolphinheart


nearly every time I said Jehovah means God

you replied: Jehovah is the name of God

dolphinheart:


I've shown you the Hebrew word for God and it's numbering, they did not say God means Jehovah.
I've shown you that Jehovah is the name of God.

If you were not saying Jehovah means the name of God, in reply to my saying Jehovah means God

Then tell me what was you saying oh lie lie twister


The Strongs Dictionary meanings for Jehovah:
Jehovah means "the self existent"<<<END, >>>ME, and as the self existent is God, Jehovah means God.

^^^
have to do that for such a twister lie lie, he would say it doesn't say that, you added to it,
the confused one doesn't know where the bible or a dictionary leaves off and I begin,
actually he does but he loves to lie using all means of lying known to him.

Jehovah also means Jewish national name of God, and Jehovah means LORD and much more than the words that the dictionary uses,
Jehovah(the self existent) also means I AM(self, to exist)

Jehovah means God oh people of God,
but to false jw dolphinheart Jehovah doesn't mean God.



Jehovah
H3068
יְהֹוָה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
Total KJV occurrences: 6521

lie lie dolphinheart


Deu 6:4  Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah: 

lie lie dolphinheart, could that also say "Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord" >>> yes it could, what say you lie lie?

lie lie dolphinheart, could that also say "Hear O Israel: God our god is one God" >>> yes it could, what say you lie lie?

if Jehovah, LORD, and God can be used interchangably
then they mean the same.

Jehovah means Lord
Jehovah means God

but lie lie can only see a short meaning in a dictionary,
and while not understanding that, he thinks that's all there is.

understandably false jw say's that Jehovah doesn't mean God
here is his god that he takes after.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

when he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own: means when he lies he is speaking naturally, it is natural for him to lie

lie lie dolphinheart follows him very closely.

satan
H7854
שָׂטָן
śâṭân
saw-tawn'
From H7853; an opponent; especially (with the article prefixed) Satan, the arch enemy of good: - adversary, Satan, withstand.
Total KJV occurrences: 27

satan opposes good
satan opposes Christ, satan is "the" antichrist

those who oppose Christ changing God's inspired word and saying Christ is "a god", are antichrists
those saying that Christ's body wasn't resurrected to life, are antichrists,
satan is their father,
satan is their god.

Many say they are Christians, but you will know them by their fruits,
false jw's have given many false prophecies,
and when they failed, they just gave another.

Jesus describes the pharisee false jw's very well here:

Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 
Mat 7:16  Ye shall know them by their fruits.....

You see false jw in sheeps clothing when they come to your door, to your home,
and you see them as ravening wolves here for one place,
the language and the obvious unashameable repeated lies.

dolphinheart:

YOUR LIES ARE GIGANTIC, YOU HAVE JOINED THE CREW OF BIG TIME LIARS!

No sol hasn't joined false jw at all, such a lie lie

brocab:
The JW's are still blaming the bible. 7 times is my answer.
The KJV translators used the name Jehovah wherever the name Yahweh was found, under one of the following 3 conditions.
{1} When YHWH was used as God's personal name.
{Exodus 6:3} And I appeared unto Abraham unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God almighty, but by My name Jehovah was I not known to them.
{Psalms 83:18} That men may know that thru, whom's name alone Jehovah art the most high over all the Earth.
{2} When God's name is repented as Jah "Jehovah"
{Isaiah 12:2} Behold, God is My Salvation, I will trust and not be afraid, for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song, He also become my Salvation. This scripture tells it as sound-Jesus is Lord Jehovah and He also be my salvation.
{Isaiah 26:4} Trust ye, in the Lord forever, for the Lord Jehovah is everlasting strength.
{3} When God's name is part of a place name.
Jehovah Jireh
{Genesis 22;14} And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah Jireh, as it said to this day, in the mount of the Lord it shall be seen.
Jehovah nissi
{Exodus 17:15} And Moses built an altar, and called the name of Jehovah nissi.
Jehovah Slamom
{Judges 6:24} Then Gideon built an altar there unto the Lord, and called it Jehovah Slamom: unto this day it is yet an Ophrah of the Abi-ezrites.
So Jehovah's name isn't just about the Lord, it's about a place.

Kai!!!!, So your bible used that word " jehovah", a word you claim to be silly. you have degenerated to a point I can't fanthom.
imagine you saying they translate YHWH as Jehovah when it was used as God's personal name, your statement means they refuse to translate YHWH in all occasions it occurs as Jehovah , choosing to use flimsy excuse to decide how they will translate God's name. Do you see how low you have Gone, allowing sentiments and false doctrine to determine when you will or will not translate a particular Hebrew word.

Unfortunately for you, Jehovah is not used as God's personal name, it is God's personal name, he himself says " that is my name" it is not a name you can decide to use or not to use!

evidence upon evidence keeps mounting on how much of a liar you are, you accuse me of saying God's name is written 6000 times, but when asked to provide proof that I said so, you ran away from the issue!
I also asked you to show where I said " jehovah is not the name of God," You could not show it, brocab, someone who lies like you has no conscience!

I know you run away from questions all the time
2.pls tell us the name(s) that God directly tells you is his name, anybody can give God any name, but which one did God directly tell you is his name!?

brocab:
You don't even know what the telegrammaton is?

you always find an excuse not to answer the questions or issues at hand. okay pls tell me what telegrammaton is (customers I don't know tetragrammaton it is, I only know tetragrammaton.

After that answer the questions asked :

brocab, be sincere, which kjv version are you using, and does the word Jehovah appear in that version?
If the name Jehovah appears in the translation that you fully accepted , do you view the use of that word as silly?

Secondly , I'll like to ask you, what name did God tell you directly that he bears, he told us directly that "this is my name".