goldfish80:

If you were a tactics man, you will know the way a team behaves without the ball is the corner stone in analysing a teams pattern of play.
Last night without the ball, Etebo and Onazi held their hands together like I've illustrated in the still pictures.

This argument started on the defensive positioning of the team with the Benteleb chance in the first half.
Please open your eyes

goldfish80:

I can also circle the when Onazi was hacked down on the right wing. It doesn't prove he played a box to box role.
You don't read the formation a team plays when they are with the ball, you read formation when they aren't with the ball.

By the way, you jumped on the argument without following it from the head.

Leading up to the chance benteleb hacked over the bar Mickael2 claimed Onazi should have done better with the marking, I asked him where was Etebo durring the action, he almost said Etebo wasn't supposed to be there. That's where this argument started. Don't lecture me on how a dual pivot works.

goldfish80:


Etebo most times in the second half spent alot of time in our own box helping the defenders out, more than he was in the Algerian half. If you want I can show you the pictures.

tbaba1234:


I am sure that i said that he made the pass earlier. I also mentioned that iheanacho was ineffective, does that mean that i hate him too?

I felt that he faded, it does not mean that he is a bad player.

TheGoodJoe:


Just Imagine. I asked you a simple question, you are talking tactics man. I said, if you look at the positions when the team is not in possession, as a Tactics man, how will you know which of the pivot roams and who sits back.

Tell me before the corner kick. Sorry, corner stone.

BascoVanVeli:

U said he lost the ball.

tbaba1234:


You are correct. The coach played two anchor men. Etebo moved forward when ndidi came on.

goldfish80:

In a dual pivot, one DM is not detailed to sit per say. The two Dms simply complement each other. When one attacks, the other defends.
Mikel and Joel obi played this revolving role when siasia played them together.
Last night, Etebo and Onazi played as Dms. However, Etebo linked with the attack when situation permitted.
He played within the confines of the midfield that's why you never saw him in the Algerian box. Which annuals your point he was a box to box.. Lol

TheGoodJoe:


Do you think Kayode is a better option? If we had a better striker, Rohr will not opt for Iheanacho. Until we see someone who can contribute more, talking of benching is a very long stretch. Iheanacho is our best option.

goldfish80:

Thank God someone was watching the game tactically, not flowing with the game like an average fan.
Even after going through the pains of showing them pictures, they still argue.

Mickael2:


he might come and do better. Osaze used to play better for the Super Eagles than for his club so it's possible

goldfish80:


Etebo most times in the second half spent alot of time in our own box helping the defenders out, more than he was in the Algerian half. If you want I can show you the pictures.

tbaba1234:


You are correct. The coach played two anchor men. Etebo moved forward when ndidi came on.

goldfish80:

In a dual pivot, one DM is not detailed to sit per say. The two Dms simply complement each other. When one attacks, the other defends.
Mikel and Joel obi played this revolving role when siasia played them together.
Last night, Etebo and Onazi played as Dms. However, Etebo linked with the attack when situation permitted.
He played within the confines of the midfield that's why you never saw him in the Algerian box. Which annuals your point he was a box to box.. Lol

goldfish80:

Thank God someone was watching the game tactically, not flowing with the game like an average fan.
Even after going through the pains of showing them pictures, they still argue.

Mickael2:


there was an interview where Mikel said that when he was playing a dual pivot with Matic, he asked Matic before the game which one them should roam and which should sit, that should tell you that one sits predominantly or totally in fact.

TheGoodJoe:


We are not analysing on might. We are analysing who is the best option available.

TheGoodJoe:


The one I remember was David Luiz and Mikel under Benitez. Mikel said when David Luiz came in, he asked Luiz who was to sit and who was to go forward. David Luiz said Benitez ask him (Luiz) to sit and Mikel go forward.

And then, David Luiz left Mikel at the back and ran forward. Lolll.

Mickael2:


should we decide before raining? Icon4s said something like that and u disagreed remember

TheGoodJoe:


No one is arguing that the coach did not play two anchor men. The debate is that, Etebo was not restricted to sit in front of the defence.

tbaba1234:


I think both players Onazi and Etebo were meant to compliment each other. They played the same kind of role.

Mickael2:

this is why I hate having conversations with you, you utter rubbish with such conviction that it annoys me and your diction is pretty foul, you might want to change it.

I said we have stars who are sitting on the bench already, and he is still a prospect, isn't he a bench piece at Man city? Or has he benched Aguero already? All what you said is baseless, I said if they come and they perform better than him let him sit, for Christ's sake you were saying that if Alampasu performs better than Akpeyi he should sit for Alampasu, so what makes Iheanacho's case different? Read meaning into this and take off your fangirl glasses for once.

PS: if you think that I hate Mikel, ok.

tbaba1234:


He did and it is a valid criticism. Criticising a player does not mean, i dislike him.

shogz89:
Algeria Coach: Iheanacho Made It Easy For Victor Moses To Punish Our Defence



The coach of the Algerian team Georges Leekens has criticized his team poor defensive set up, which allowed Victor Moses time and space to score a brace in Nigeria 3-1 win over the Desert Foxes.

Moses scored the opener for Nigeria after 25th minute before adding another minutes into time added on to help Nigeria secure a comprehensive 3-1 win over Algeria.

” Iheanacho was full of running and my defenders couldn’t handle him. The space he created by dragging them was what allowed Victor Moses the chance to score twice” He said at the post match conference.

” We know the threat of Nigeria going forward, so we should have defended better especially in our box. We have seen our mistakes and we will hopefully correct them before our next game”.

The victory extended Nigeria’s lead at the top of group B to four points with Algeria now occupying the basement position in the group, due to an inferior goal difference even though they are on same point with Zambia.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/11/13/algeria-coach-iheanacho-made-it-easy-for-victor-moses-to-punish-our-defence/

TheGoodJoe:
shogz89 thanks for the nice post.

” Iheanacho was full of running and my defenders couldn’t handle him. The space he created by dragging them was what allowed Victor Moses the chance to score twice” He said at the post match conference.

Why Shall I Not Shy.

shogz89:
Algeria Coach: Iheanacho Made It Easy For Victor Moses To Punish Our Defence



The coach of the Algerian team Georges Leekens has criticized his team poor defensive set up, which allowed Victor Moses time and space to score a brace in Nigeria 3-1 win over the Desert Foxes.

Moses scored the opener for Nigeria after 25th minute before adding another minutes into time added on to help Nigeria secure a comprehensive 3-1 win over Algeria.

” Iheanacho was full of running and my defenders couldn’t handle him. The space he created by dragging them was what allowed Victor Moses the chance to score twice” He said at the post match conference.

” We know the threat of Nigeria going forward, so we should have defended better especially in our box. We have seen our mistakes and we will hopefully correct them before our next game”.

The victory extended Nigeria’s lead at the top of group B to four points with Algeria now occupying the basement position in the group, due to an inferior goal difference even though they are on same point with Zambia.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/11/13/algeria-coach-iheanacho-made-it-easy-for-victor-moses-to-punish-our-defence/

OdenigboAroli:
And nobody is saying anything about how Mikel's lack of game time at his club is affecting his Super Eagles form.