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Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by Nobody: 9:21am On Nov 20, 2016 |
mrmrmister: By their fruits ye shall know them. His vitriolic comments on his threads and posts prove me right. say somethibg else. 1 Like |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by mrmrmister: 9:23am On Nov 20, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Honestly, I don't know what that religion makes them feel like They always act like they're better than and can condemn everyone else, Very disgusting |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by mrmrmister: 9:25am On Nov 20, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Pls shut the hell up And ask God to give you wisdom You greatly lack it. 1 Like |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by Nobody: 9:35am On Nov 20, 2016 |
mrmrmister: So now an atheist thinks I should ask God for wisdom? How sad on a major scale. Since you are on the God subject why not break protocol and ask him for spiritual sight. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by mrmrmister: 9:51am On Nov 20, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: I told you to ask him cause you believe in him And honestly, you could really use some wisdom right now 3 Likes |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by Nobody: 9:53am On Nov 20, 2016 |
mrmrmister: what manner of foolishness doth the roots in you have? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by mrmrmister: 9:57am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by calmG(m): 9:59am On Nov 20, 2016 |
hahn:Even if WISDOM rapes u, u will sill be foolish... 2 Likes |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by Nobody: 10:00am On Nov 20, 2016 |
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Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by Image123(m): 10:03am On Nov 20, 2016 |
akintom: Prayer is the Master key, not only key. You can pray and plan. It's called multitasking duh. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by Nobody: 10:08am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Image123: with all his planning he is still an employee while some us with prayer and planning are employers of labour. He should go and ask Carlos Slim and Bill gates who keep playing tag with being worlds richest men. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by Nobody: 10:18am On Nov 20, 2016 |
akintom: please can you explain to me. what wind the wind. what power controls the wind. |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by johnydon22(m): 10:22am On Nov 20, 2016 |
If prayer works [though they don't] Someone should remind me again why you need to remind an all knowing being that you need help OR plead with an all loving being before it decides to help you.. Prayer is like a wish, i too also make wishes but wishes are nothing more than wishes - they only come true if you work for them. You may pray/wish for rain and it rains but yet it also rains whether you pray/wish for it. The philosopher Xun Zi [China 312 - 230BC] once remarked.. "Pray all you want, heaven can't hear you. It's not going to stop the winter cus you are cold neither is it going to make the earth smaller cus you don't want to walk so far. You pray for rain and it rains but your prayer has nothing to do with it cus whether you pray or not it still rains anyway. If you act wisely good things tend to happen, act foolishly and bad things follow - Don't thank or curse heaven cus it has nothing to do with it, its just the natural effects of your own actions. If you want to better yourself, educate yourself and think carefully about the consequencies of your actions." Prayer like wishes can induce a sense of hope and comfort that can help people get over difficult situation since they believe they are being looked after, this profound and sincere hopes even though based on a fantasy i think is not all bad or needed to be eroded - sometimes it is necessary and many rely on it - and i won't be so fast or blunt enough to take that away from people. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by sonmvayina(m): 10:23am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Prayer serves no purpose, God has no mind that prayer can change..whatever is destined to happen willl happen..Only time know that..some people dont know who they are..thats why they still find religion a thril..We are Gods on a human journey. we can say and put our mind to something and it will come to pass.. please it is good we really read positive books that will impact our life , not dwell of jewish and roman fairy tales..."the power of positive thinking" comes to mind..what religion and prayer does is waste your time. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by johnydon22(m): 10:23am On Nov 20, 2016 |
WinningSun: Difference in atmospheric pressure causes wind - nothing more than that, so i wonder which powers you are looking for.. 1 Like |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by jonbellion(m): 10:59am On Nov 20, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:chaiiii!!!! Akinton are you gonna take this from him?? Naijadeyhia go to church and stop doing jesus' warrior and Jesus avenger upandan He's right prayer serves no purpose It is as flaccid as a 95 year old er*ction and as infertile as a 95 year old spermotazoa Forget Abraham I know he was around that age or older than that but this is the real world 4 Likes |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by freethinker01: 11:44am On Nov 20, 2016 |
From my own findings, I realised prayer is just as redundant as the p in psychology. It's arrant waste of time... 2 Likes |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by akintom(m): 11:49am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Many theists' comments here, especially that of naijadeyhia, concluded that, they plan and pray, one doesn't hinder the other. But that's not the thrust of my thread. Am saying that prayer, is unwarranted idiocy and waste of time, by those who engage in it. This is it.... If 1+0 = 1 And 1 - 0 = 1 Therefore, 1=1, and 0 = 0 (irrelevant) Now, If Plan + prayer = plan And plan - prayer = plan Therefore, plan = plan, And prayer = 0 (irrelevant factor) 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by calliope(f): 11:50am On Nov 20, 2016 |
What will be will be. Why pray? Its better to invest that energy and time doing something productive rather than wasting it on prayers. 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by sonmvayina(m): 11:50am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Let me make it clear for the religious folks using what they already know from their buybul....it is explicitly stated in numerous places: "God is not a man"...so i wonder what God uses to hear them..the only way to communicate with God is through an Oracle.. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by jonbellion(m): 12:25pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
prayer entails the idea of attempting to make an allegedly omniscient entity aware of something. It also involves messing with an allegedly divine plan, and divine plan or indirectly arguing that the person praying could somehow improve upon God's intent or design. Lol comedy Godbotherers never seem to consider that their constant pleading of God might piss him off. Help me with my body odour even though I have bad hygiene Help me find my car keys even though I'm careless Make me better in bed even though I don't practice Help me with my test even though i didn't read 1 Like
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Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by Nobody: 12:59pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
johnydon22: you are still saying the same thing. what affect atmospheric pressure. what wind the wind. |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by plaetton: 1:10pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Prayer, like the OP stated, is a deluded mixture of phobia, dimentia, schizophrenia, and,..and what's the other words ? |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by plaetton: 1:12pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
jonbellion: And, Let thy will be done,but, but please alter it just for me. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by jonbellion(m): 1:17pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
plaetton:chaiii See obvious paradox How christians don't realise this is beyond me |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by Nobody: 1:21pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
plaetton: Prayer actually soothes the mind and stimulates peace psychologically...You can ask your shrink. But thats not where we are headed. Spiritually speaking Prayer is Faith (You) Talking to Faith (God). Its not just words because it has a Principle and a foundation. The disciples asked Jesus to teach them to Pray and Jesus said WHEN YOU PRAY YOU SAY..... He then taught them the principle. Dont get it twisted alright? When you do as someone who does not believe God exists thats what you need shrinks for who get paid off your ignorance. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by Nobody: 1:23pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
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Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by plaetton: 1:28pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Amazing thread indeed. I like to write from personal experience. And I can tell you, I really , sincerely feel sorry for many of the Christians, friends and family , that I come in contact with everyday. I feel sorry for them in the way I would feel sorry for a compulsive gambler, someone who gambles everyday, hoping that his/her luck would shine on the next bet. I also feel sorry for them in the same way I would feel for opium or crack addicts that can't get through the day without a fix. There is nothing so ridiculous that I haven't seen concerning prayers. And this has to be one of the reasons I loathe religion sooo much: how it drains the living spirit right out of people. I see so many prayer addicts around me. I pity them so much that I wish there was a prayer recovery therapy or rehab that are available to help these people, if at all they can agree that they need help. I have concluded long ago, and I opened a thread about it, that prayers are more about DOUBTS than they are about the so-called faith. In fact, by definition, prayer and faith contradict each other, and should not co-exist. Prayer showcases the inner psychology of faith , and reveals the big surprise that Faith = Doubts + Fear. There is nothing more contradictory and pathetic about religious faith than Prayers. 1 Like |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by Nobody: 1:34pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
plaetton: There is nothing more painful or pitiful to watch than a man wrapped up in ignorance while claiming to be knowledgeable. When a man who has never seen what a room looks like and gets thrown into that room blindfolded and he then begins to attempt describing the room based on his notion of what he thinks a room ought to look like is pathetic especially when he eventually gets his blindfold removed and discovers he was only placed inside a 40 foot container made to look like a room. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by plaetton: 1:37pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Alcohol also soothes the mind and stimulates peace psychologically.Ask anyone who drinks. Opioids also soothes the mind and stimulates peace psychologically. You can ask any addict. What the three have in common is that they are all give temporary, illusionary highs. They are all also addictive and can leave very deep psychological lows once the initial highs diminish. https://www.nairaland.com/1452318/faith-prayers-law-diminishing-returns 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by plaetton: 1:44pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
WinningSun:If you had paid enough attention during geography lessons in school, you wouldn't be asking that daft question. 1 Like |
Re: Why Pray, When You Can Plan by akintom(m): 1:45pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
jonbellion: You forgot this........ God ! God!! God!!!... I need a wife, when single chinene plenty for their churches. They have waited for the hiding God, that almost all the deluded babes, in their churches, are galloping into menopause! 1 Like |
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