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guy, u smart

If i must confess i have been following the thread from the beginning and is very interesting but what the OP posted here is far the truth, part of what he posted are from the ' lost book of enki ,the twelfth planet which are d work of Zachariah Sitchin. I was surprised to see nairalanders being captivated with this because i have read various versions of Annunaki stories even here on nairaland.

All work and no humor, oya make una laugh small jare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJaE4APqnZ4

I've been following the thread and d Op right from d start, the op's assertion does little to impress the intelligent mind, He mentioned that humans were created by Animals, He didn't care to mention if d anunakis created d plants and animals that humans feed on, or if you are working as a slave, won't you need a source of energy to keep you going? He even asserted they were technologically advanyes, if they were, were they not supposed to create robots for their seemingly herculean tasks and not weak humans?

snowprince07:
Its obvious that we are all blindly following d oyinbos even the so called africans esp nigerians that claim to be atheist and the scientist, well i had rather be fooled by some thousand years old book than to accept a 20yrs old resrch(as claimd by d op) which is just a writeup not so convincing,
statistically i fail to accept ur null hypotheses which says God, Jesus or jehova does not exist and conclude that u are just being more of an atheist than giving us fact. GBAAAAAM

even the christianity u have... onyinbo gave it to you.. so let anybody follow what he wants and stop boasting...

africa dumped their belief n carried the whites man's own.. dd they research? No

now someone did a 20yrs research., has a new belief, came to share with you and you are ranting... what have u done on your own? show us lets commend...

u didnt do anything thing on your own, you only swallowed what you were fed with by virtue of place of birth....

what gave u the right to criticize someone trying to feed himself....?

if you dont believe fine...if you do.... fine....
freedom.of choice...

let the op alone...

I found this online last night, it's a really long piece but it debunks most of the OP's claim


The short answer is that everything Ancient Aliens says about the Annunaki comes from a man named Zecharia Sitchin. Sitchin wrote many books claiming that the Annunaki were really aliens. Unfortunately, at the time that he wrote this in the 70’s, there weren’t many ways for ordinary people to see if what he was saying is true or not.

To put it simply Sitchin’s translation of the word Annunaki is wrong.

Michael Heiser: “You’ll often read, especially in the writings of Zecharia Sitchin, that the annunaki means something like ‘they who from heaven came’ or some other description that makes them sound like aliens or extra-terrestrials. There isn’t a source on the planet by any Sumerian scholar that would agree with that definition. It’s not a difficult term. I personally don’t think that Sitchin knew Sumerian at all because if you’re going to get a term associated with a very group of important deities wrong, I have to wonder what else you’re going to get wrong.”

Sitchin claimed to be an expert on Sumerian writings, yet we can now see that he didn’t seem to even understand the basic grammar and vocabulary rules of the Sumerian language.v Several real scholars challenged him on his translations, and on his lack of any academic credentials in the field, pointing out that there is no record of Sitchin having anything but a journalism degree[4]:

One such scholar is Michael Heiser. “To this day I haven’t been able to find, nor have other people of whom I’ve asked help – people who liked Sitchin – any credentials of him knowing any of the languages or him being credentialed in any way in ancient near-eastern studies.”

As we progress and look into some of the specifics of Sitchin’s views – articulated by Ancient Aliens – I think you will see that determining the truth about this difficult subject is not out of the hands of the common person.

AA: “It says, word for word, that these beings descended in flying vehicles from the sky.”

This is a preposterous statement. I challenge anyone to produce this “word for word” text.

You can do a search online[5], and literally see all the references to the word Annunaki in the Sumerian texts. The only time it refers to anything even close to this is when it talks about the Annunaki being direct creations of Anu in heaven. A few examples of this would be:

The Anunna, the (gods), whom An conceived in the sky.

The Anunna, whom An in the sky conceived.

These texts emphasize the point that the main Sumerian concept regarding the Annunaki was that they were directly created by An – that’s what’s being said here.

The idea that the text says that they “descended out of flying vehicles” is pure fiction, and that’s the nicest way I can think of to say that.

What Ancient Aliens does here is they show pictures of the winged solar disk as they talk about the Annunaki, and I guess they expect the audience to think that the texts speak of these disks like spacecraft in the Sumerian stories, when in fact the solar disks seen in the iconography are not associated with the Annunaki at all, but rather with the sun and or sun god[6].

This is probably why Tsoucalous says the following:

“And they were always described or depicted [as] floating above some, quote unquote, regular people.”

Since the Annunaki are never depicted floating above people’s heads, we can see that they want people to believe that the solar disk icon equals the Annunaki spacecraft.

This is wrong for several reasons.

Number one, the solar disks in the Sumerian culture, really did represent the sun or the sun god.

The sun travelling across the sky everyday was seen to have been facilitated by wings on the sun. You need to know that there is nothing in these descriptions of the sun in the Sumerian texts that would suggest that they were really talking about a UFO. As boring as it may be, they were really talking about the sun.

One way to demonstrate this is found in the epic of Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh worships Shamash, the sun god, in order to get favor for part of his journey, and he does this by facing east in the morning – that is, in the direction of the rising sun.[7]

The idea that Ancient Aliens proposes here that the Annunaki actually came out of the solar disks or that they were pictured riding in them is just a lie; there is no way around it.

“We can find not only descriptions of the annunaki, but also depictions. We can see them in statues; in carvings, so it’s all very interesting to see that those beings looked like modern-day space travellers with weird suits; some of them wore wrist watchers; they had boots on and helmets and, above all, wings.”

All throughout the Ancient Aliens series they show these pictures of Akkadian winged genies and refer to them as Annunaki. But funnily enough winged genies aren’t Annunaki. In fact these reliefs are not even Sumerian, they’re Akkadian.

But hey, while were here we might as well explain what’s going on in these images, even though they have absolutely nothing to do with the Annunaki.

The belief was that certain aspects of nature were controlled by these winged genies. Most notably they were responsible for the fertilization of the crops.[8][9]

They were often depicted with a bucket of pollen or water in one hand, and a group of male flowers or a pine cone in the other hand. They often are depicted as fertilizing a date tree which was a symbol of fruitfulness.

Sometimes they would be depicted as being pointed at the king which, because of the accompanying inscriptions, we know means that the king was seen to be a type of intermediary between the gods, and responsible for the fruitfulness of the land and the people.[10]

One way to demonstrate this is by explaining what Ancient Aliens calls a “wristwatch.” First, you should take note that if this is a watch then these genies were serious about timekeeping, because they wore one on both wrists, and often on a headband as well. This “watch” is actually an Akkadian symbol for Ishtar the goddess of fertility. You can see the same rosette on the famous Ishtar gate in Babylon.

The fertility of the land was associated with, as you might expect, the goddess of fertility, and these beings are depicted as acting on behalf of Ishtar as they fertilize this date tree.

This also probably explains the wings, considering that the natural and visible way that a flower is pollenated is through bees and birds. Therefore it’s not so hard to see that they were depicting their spiritual agents of pollination with wings as well.

AA: “Zecharia Sitchin has essentially suggested that the reason we were visited in the remote past is because the ancient astronauts’ home planet needed gold for their atmosphere and that their gold-content in the atmosphere was depleting – so they came to earth in order to mine gold and bring it back to their home planet.”

This line about aliens coming to mine gold for their atmosphere, in the ancient past, is widely repeated by Ancient Astronaut theorists. In fact it’s become something of a foundational idea in the movement. This idea traces directly back to Zecharia Sitchin and has absolutely nothing to do with Sumerian texts.

It’s interesting to note that Sitchin doesn’t even give a place in the Sumerian texts to justify this notion that they needed gold for their atmosphere. He says the following in his book “The Wars of Gods and Men”:

“The metal, with its unique properties, was needed back home for a vital need, … as best as we can make out, this vital need could have been for suspending the gold particles in Nibiru’s waning atmosphere and thus shield it from critical dissipation.” (emphasis mine)

So he says ‘as best as we can make out’. Who is ‘we’? And what texts would even hint at that idea. He creates this idea of gold particles being needed in a planet’s atmosphere out of nowhere.

Nowadays you can do a word search for the uses of the word “gold” in the Sumerian texts.[11] We can read every mention of this word.

Not only are the mentions of the word gold relatively few in the Sumerian texts, there is nothing to indicate anything but the most ordinary uses for gold[12]. In fact It’s a surprisingly boring study.

Thanks to meticulous cataloging of the Sumerian texts over the last few decades, and the advent of the internet, we no longer have to take people like Sitchin’s word for it.

Heiser: “There are some databases online that allow you to search through Sumerian texts, and I have a video on my website sitchiniswrong.com. If you go there and click on the Annunaki tab I will show you how to search through something called the electronic text corpus of Sumerian literature. I will show you how you can search for all the occurrences of the word Annunaki and then click through the English translations of all those occurrences. You can find this material and I would encourage you to do so because you can check up on Zecharia Sitchin; you can check up on me.

When I claim that there are no texts [and] there are no tablets that have, for instance, the Annunaki on Nibiru or associated with Nibiru; that Nibiru isn’t a planet beyond Pluto, how easy would it be to prove me wrong if you knew how to search for those terms? It would be real easy, and I encourage you to check up on me and everybody else and do the work. You can access this material and know who’s telling you the truth.”

We can finally see for ourselves why the Sumerian scholars have been so critical of Sitchin, not because they are too close minded or anything like that, but because Sitchin really doesn’t seem to know what he is talking about.

Let me give you an example of how Sitchin comes up with his “amazing” translations.

Let’s take this idea that the Sumerian texts speak of mining gold. Now since the Sumerian texts do not speak of mining gold in any way, Sitchin has to construct this idea out of thin air. This is how he did it:

Let’s look at a quote from his first book “The Twelfth Planet”:

“Some Mesopotamian hymns to Ea exalt him as Bel Nimiki, translated “lord of wisdom”; but the correct translation should ‘undoubtedly be “lord of mining.”

In classic Sitchin style he never gives any reason that the “correct translation should ‘undoubtedly be “lord of mining.” He just says it should be and leaves it at that.

Again, we have Sumerian dictionaries written by the scribes themselves, and the Sumerians don’t agree with Sitchin here at all, so why should we?

I think one way to demonstrate how bad of a translation this is, is to read a little about Ea’s or Enki’s wisdom in context, and let you see if it makes sense to you as meaning wisdom or if it really means mining.

This is an example from a Sumerian text called Enuma Elish:

HE WHO UNDERSTANDS ALL
The Wise One,
The Great One,
EA who Knows ALL THAT IS,
Perceived the Plot.
He countered it
With a Powerful Spell.

Not only does it describe his wisdom further by saying “he who understands all” but it also says that because of this wisdom he was able to perceive a plot before it happened and counter it. None of what we just read makes sense if “wisdom” means mining.

Or from the same epic:

EA,
Who knows ALL THINGS,
Knew he could not Defeat
KINGU and the Hosts of TIAMAT.

Here again we see a contextual definition of Ea’s knowledge. He knows all again, and we see this knowledge helped him understand that he could not defeat Kingu.

These are not isolated descriptions of this knowledge; Ea is the god of wisdom for a reason. Nothing said about him makes sense if his knowledge means mining, or even knowledge about mining. All the stories about him highlight his great understanding, and conversely there isn’t even a hint that he cares a lick about digging for gold or anything else…it’s just not there. It requires an ignorance of the Sumerian texts in order to be believed.

Let’s move on to another claim about the Annunaki:

AA: “Virtually every story that’s in Genesis – the flood story, the Adam and Eve story – all have precedents with the ancient Sumerians. The story that came down to the Sumerians is that the Annunaki were mining gold on the Earth and the run-of-the-mill workers complained saying: ‘This is really hard work and we’re tired. We don’t want to do this anymore’ and so they had a big council and they decided to create a primitive worker called an Adamou. The Annunaki created humans as a slave species.”

The first thing to be aware of here is that in the epic of creation that they are referring to here, the God’s weren’t mining gold. The work that the gods were doing is creating the world, kind of what you would expect from a creation epic.

It even specifically states that they were making mountains and rivers, such as the Tigris and Euphrates. [13]The gods here were tired of creating the earth not gold mining.

The epic goes on to describe the following events:

· The gods decide to mix up themselves with clay and make man.
· As the version of men they made increased in number, the noise they made angered the gods.
· They decide to kill them off with a flood.
· One man is instructed to build a boat.
· He put animals on it.
· It rains for seven days and seven nights.
· The man and his family are saved.

There are many similarities between these Sumerian writings and to the biblical accounts of the creation of man and Noah’s flood.

Some people think this is due to the writers of the Bible copying the earlier Sumerian writings. This is problematic because even the critics who specialize in this style of ancient literature say there is no evidence of literary borrowing[14], in fact just the opposite. They propose that they must be referring to a common source for the information.

One paper by A. Heidel, A.R. Millard and D. Damrosch concludes this way:

“Literary dependence cannot be demonstrated. Here, as in most of the parallels in the primeval history, it is considered more likely that Mesopotamian and biblical traditions are based on a common source. Some understand this common source to be a piece of more ancient literature, while others consider it the actual event.’ Hill & Walton, ‘A Survey of the Old Testament’, p. (2010).

Add to this that it is not just the Sumerian texts and the bible that are talking about the same basic story, but obvious elements of this story can be found in almost every early culture, regardless of its location.

Take for example the story of Viracocha in South America.

Viracocha created the heavens and the earth. He then took large stones and breathed life into them. But they became giants, so he sent a flood to wipe them out. After the flood he breathed into smaller stones than the first time thereby creating smaller people, which were then scattered all over the world.[15]

And in the bible, in Genesis 6 we see something similar. The Sons of God disobeyed God, they came to earth had sex with human women, producing giants called Nephilim. The Nephilim over time almost eliminated the original human population, and this is one of the reasons that God sent the flood.[16]

These stories are found in some form in cultures as geographically separated as you can get. They are in China, Europe, the Middle East, they are found in Native American traditions, in South America and many others.xvii

The similarities are too obvious to simply dismiss. Things like 8 people being on the boat are mentioned in a good percentage of these stories.[17]

I personally think that all these cultures are drawing from the same original story, a story that was told only one way, and that as migrations happened from this original group they started adding in details that were more locally important to them. But that each of these cultures sincerely believed they were passing on the true account of the origin of humanity to their descendants as this story was told.

Ironically if you take it at face value, if there was really a flood and all people except for the ones on the boat were destroyed, and if most modern cultures were descended from them, the fact that the entire world seems to have inherited the same story would make sense, because they essentially had the same eight ancestors who experienced such a dramatic event, and made it a point to pass the story to each generation.

I propose that something like this really did happen in ancient history. I don’t see any logical way around it. The question I have is which, if any of these accounts, is closest to the truth?

Ancient Aliens tells us that the Sumerian version is closest to the truth because they were recorded earlier. That makes sense to a point, but we have to remember that the events described in the Sumerian texts were still ancient history to the Sumerians. So the question is not so much about the date of the writing, but rather their ability to preserve the story.

I’ll give you a few very good reasons to seriously doubt that the Sumerian accounts should be given more weight where they differ from the others.

The first is that the Sumerians stories are not logically consistent.

Take for example that in both the Sumerian and Biblical accounts, dimensions for the boat are given.

The mere fact that an important part of this story is the dimensions of the boat is interesting, but when you draw out the dimensions, you have on the one hand the Sumerian boat, being a big cube, and the biblical one being described by naval engineers as nearly perfect for maintaining stability without hull damage in incredibly rough seas.[18]

Another reason not to trust the Sumerian texts where they differ from the others is that, as every Sumerian scholar knows, the Sumerians constantly change the details of their stories to suit the different situations.

For example, texts of the same story found in the temple of Enki will differ from ones found in the temple of Innana, even if they are from the same time period, but especially if they’re from a different time period. To quote one Sumerian scholar:

“Inconsistencies are a regular feature of Sumerian poetry.”

He goes on to say that “integration of different texts [by the Sumerian scribes] often appear somewhat careless.”[19]

Compare that with the ancient Hebrew scribes, who were notorious for taking their job ultra-seriously. They had many rules that governed their coping of their sacred texts. For example, it is said that they would have to speak every letter out loud before committing it to paper.[20][21]

One example of a vindication of this meticulous attention to detail is with the Isaiah scroll found in the Dead Sea scrolls.

The earliest copies of the Hebrew Old Testament before the Dead Sea Scrolls were the Masoretic texts which were copied between the years 600-1000AD. So the Isaiah scroll, one of the best preserved scrolls, would be a way to prove or disprove if their scriptures had been faithfully copied by the scribes during the previous 800 years. As it turned out they did a flawless job and the Hebrew scribes were vindicated.[22][23]

So when deciding which texts are more accurate as it relates to their accounts of ancient events it is far more logical to assume that the group with a tradition of accurate preservation and transmission of their texts should be given more weight than a culture like the Sumerians who seemed to have little interest in the accurate transmission of the details of their stories.

To sum up, almost everything that Ancient Aliens says about the Annunaki is untrue, which is not surprising considering they copy and pasted almost everything in this section from the books of Zecharia Sitchin.

For more information about Sitchin’s errors in his translations of the Sumerians and Arkaddian texts, I will direct you to the excellent website of doctor Michael Heiser ‘Sitchiniswrong.com’.

Source... http://ancientaliensdebunked.com/references-and-transcripts/anunnaki/

Thats also my point bro d op should also liv christianity alone and focus on his belief rather than discreediting christianity

joshysmartie:


even the christianity u have... onyinbo gave it to you.. so let anybody follow what he wants and stop boasting...

africa dumped their belief n carried the whites man's own.. dd they research? No

now someone did a 20yrs research., has a new belief, came to share with you and you are ranting... what have u done on your own? show us lets commend...

u didnt do anything thing on your own, you only swallowed what you were fed with by virtue of place of birth....

what gave u the right to criticize someone trying to feed himself....?

if you dont believe fine...if you do.... fine....
freedom.of choice...

let the op alone...

snowprince07:
Thats also my point bro d op should also liv christianity alone and focus on his belief rather than discreediting christianity

ok.... understood.

Thank you @subnormal.
What really vexes me is that the OP claims this Annunaki nonsense as his own work 'after 20 years of research'. He will not even give credit to the original mad man, Zechariah Sitchin.
This Billyonaire character is an extremely disturbed fellow.

Billyonaire:
The Pyramid was used for transportation of Gold using laser technology to Planet X called Nibiru on the Constellation of Orion. When the lazer was turned on, the whole region could also receive wireless electricity called Wi-tricity and the central dynamo device is missing.

The Pyramid can only be activated again if the central core Device unit that generates the lazer is found or reconstructed. The Device of what is called the Ark of Covenant in the Bible.

How Should I Believe This When The Ark Was Constructed After The Israelites Left Egypt?

Billyonaire:


The Jesus you are defending is a descendant of Anunnakis, so when you want to talk, just reason first. Crazy people everywhere.

When Jesus said, "I and the Father are One" what did you think he meant ?

You are so foolish that you expect a follower of Jesus to accept your false fact forgetting that he equally have read and believed that Jesus is the Son of Yahweh!

So what makes you story superior to his?

kiddie:

was seriouslybelieving ypu till i read this....if its true they are coming to wipe us out know we'll give them a hard fight

Occult elite around the world know that Christ will return and destroy this world do you why they wont say the truth, but they want to take the masses with them.

and the only way to get you on their side is to instigate misconceptions capable of breeding revolt so you share their belief join them and then perish at the end so you are deceived

Billyonaire:
Keep these verses in mind:

Haggai 2:8 "The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD Almighty."
1 Kings 20:3 "Your silver and gold are mine, and the best of your wives and children are mine.'"

ALSO REMEMBER TO KEEP THE FOLLOWING IN MIND; IT WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING YOU BELIEVED IN.

God owns everything, and we are His managers

Psalms 24:1 — "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it, the world, and all who live in it."

Leviticus 25:23 — "The land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants."

Haggai 2:8 — " 'The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the Lord Almighty."

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 — "You are not your own; you were bought at a price."

Deuteronomy 8:18 — "Remember the Lord your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth."

Romans 11:36a — "For from him and through him and to him are all things ..."

1 Corinthians 4:2 — "Now it is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful."

Matthew 25:21 — "His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'"


Also Note:
DNA Sequencing:
Genesis 2: 21 "So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs and then closed up the place with flesh."

PRIOR TO DNA SEQUENCING:
Genesis 1: 26 - Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
The Question is WHO DID God MAKE THE STATEMENT WITH ? There was another God too ?

CONFOUNDING OUR LANGUAGE WHEN WE BUILT THE FIRST TOWER;
Gen 11: 7 - Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."

Then they invented Religion as a system for control.
Then the Lord's Prayer:
Our Father, Who Art in Heaven, Hallow Be Thy Name ....etc etc

THEIR HYBRID EVEN TOOK OUR WOMEN
Gen 6: 2 - "The sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose."

You deception will surely be exposed one day. You claim to talk about open mindedness, critizing people for sticking to their religion's doctrine and dogma without having to research and read wide esp from other religion but the same you take out time to paintakingly list bible passages and reference to buttress your satanic heresies without making a reference to what on earth you have claimed to have read wide....

You are just an esoteric student whose wisdom lies in destruction and certainly you head there. Calling God, Yaweh, Jesus, Moses, Elijah as if there were of different religions.....

Trying to defy the powerworking in miracles as if its the only religious rite ever done.

Your enmity against God Almighty is spotted. Ignorant people will fall for your lies. Afterall as wicked as satan is, he still have followers.

I challenge you to an open debate on Nl. I will answer all your heresies, fish out the lies and proclaim the Biblical truth. I am saying this to allall atheist on Nl....

Billyonaire:
I explained that in Humans 1.0, where Homo Erectus (elder brothers to Orangutan) where sequenced with Anunnaki's DNA to make the Earthlings. Anunnakis had sex with Earthlings to form hybrids called Atlanteans and other races based on which Anunnaki had sex with earthling. Nephilims, all are hybrids. We are their descendants.

Humans 3.0 is being engineered by us. Joint Project2045.org we are working.

If a software and a typical machine has software versions why cant human?

Billyonaire:
What you call Holy Spirit in Christianity has a different name in other religions. Anunnakis didnt invent this energy, they use it and you have access to it just as they have access to it. They just knew how to manipulate it. Even native doctors, magicians anyone can use the energy. Its the source of life in the universes.

The Holy Spirit is a being the brooded on the face of the waters to bring out of form what wasn't.No man can manipulate it and its not an energy

Chanchit:
Billionaire, so what's the logic behind God letting Jesus come into the world for lowly human to kill? And do you think its true that God knows all of us by our names as pastors tells us every Sunday?

God is sovereign

Ranks007:


Occult elite around the world know that Christ will return and destroy this world do you why they wont say the truth, but they want to take the masses with them.

and the only way to get you on their side is to instigate misconceptions capable of breeding revolt so you share their belief join them and then perish at the end so you are deceived

ok sir

realmindz:


No one has been answering anybody's prayer...Its a universe of freedom, so irrespective of your religion, u can get things if u do them then the right way.

If a Christian jumps off a storey building, or a Muslim or a pagan....he shall obey the law of gravity

When people get their desire results then they return to their respective religions to give glory to their gods and when they did not get it, they will say their god knows best.

You are a fool for debunking experiences encountered by a lot in Christianity, you claim to talk as if the fireballs arent directed to Yahweh of Christianity. My people God still answers prayers.

Billyonaire:
There is no hell. And there is no Heaven. Just religious constructs. You see the place as limbo or beautiful scenery, from where you decide where to go next.

The arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice.

AIRTEL:
I thought you are a trained man.
You bring up an obscure and esoteric theorem and expect us to jump at it like that. You are just here to ridicule people's belief and there's nothing to learn from this crap.

Deceptions and false religion. Mystery babylon aided by eygptian arts of socery and witchcraftcy. Occutic rendering to sabotage everything the Bible stands for.

ArienRic:


Hello Mr Billyonaire,
I've gone through your profile and I'm well pleased with works, your knowledge impressed me, I realised that I could learn a lot from you, please can I be your student?

Be careful not all knowlegde are edible for consumption. Pls withdraw your steps.

wilsonreuben:



Holy Mary!

When i first opened the bible and read that Gen. 1:26 i started having doubts about the existence of God.

Who are the others that the Lord is saying to "Lets us make man in our own image".

Oh! So there are other Gods too but there is a Head of the Gods and that is the one we serve, i thought to myself.

Sometimes i wish nothing is real. Other times i believe science is real and religion is fake, fiction and a conspiracy theory.

Also there was planet earth before God's creation and there was water therein. Gen. 1:2

The earth in creation story is land and not the planet earth itself. Earth existed with water!

I'm a non-practicing Catholic.
Don't laught at me.

Its ok. Thats why you there is need to encounter Jesus and know Him personally to have anwers to lifes issues.

Wgen Christ was on earth He told His disciples not to worry about His leaving that He will ask the father and another Comforter will come Who will teach them all truth.

Did that really mean there was/is another well able to fill in the capacity of comforting us as Jesus did Yes.

Same with that Passage Gen 1:26;

God Almighty created Jesus as his Son first....Jesus is the first born of all creations. For there after creating universe and all that is in The Godhead said to His Son who is the Word of God.....John 1:1

Let us make man...John further states down that without Him 'Jesus' was nothing made.

lankykid:



no homo, but I love this guy... I always believed that not all aliens are physical. those demons Christians binds are alike... they are multi dimensional beings... pls Sir elaborate on this. and how can we interact with such beings

You dont have any idea what you are going into.

Ishilove:

They think OBE is a child's play. I tried that _shit 14 years ago and what I saw enh, my mouth no fit talk am. I nearly went mad. Thank God I wasn't home alone so my peeps stopped me from going outside. I will never forget it.

Astral travelling is DEMONIC. Read my 'lips': D-E-M-O-N-I-C

I will love to hear you out

spactacus:
m.wikihow.com/Perform-Astral-Projection

You shouldnt have disclosed this link...too bad

ArienRic:


I always have this belief that we're in unreal world, the brain behind our is super intelligent so have fused consciousness to our imaginations, I always thought we humans as a pawn in the scheme of things.

Give glory to Yaweh He is the brain behind however and most strikingly - Man is the architect of his misfortunes.

realmindz:


Village woman, no offence...


That something did not work for you or scared you should make it demonic and thereby discourage others right? typical african, no wonder we dont ve great discoverers and adventurers in this part of the world..

Your mates are climbing mount Everest knowing that many 've tried and failed..

Imagine if the whites had run away from going beyond their shores or to space because some had tried and failed or because of fears...

Your theory is bullshit and stop this demonic thing...not everyone lives in confinement of delusions as u do... away with ur cave man religious mentality

You are just confined to your mind thinking that experiences gotten from others are irrelevant. Scientist who go on astral project are known occultic fellows whose projection are secured and safe guarded by rites done to wade off dangerous and offensive spirits as they put it.

but for a newbie whose knowledge about the spiritual meagre, a missed step can cause her to locked up on the plane by malevolent spirits or the silver cord severed and that will
be the end....without precaution and guide abi?

realmindz:


The question should be what are demons....

It's a pity many 've been made not to think beyond religion...

There are many things we dont know that we don't even know we dont know and someone coming here to say something is demonic just because she doesn't understand and ve no explanation or that it was scary or that it goes against her religious beliefs is appalling to contemplate

You are so ignorant or better aware but want to sell a dummy to catch a fish

Billyonaire:
Makes a lot of sense. They should start from Dream, when you master dream, then proceed to Lucid Dreaming, from there to Bi-location then Astral Projection etc. These things are stage by stage. You dont fly as a toddler, you learn to stand, then walk, then run and jump. If you jump without learning to walk, you could break your legs and blame the devil.

As if the knowkedge to OBE experience wasnt unleashed by the devil?

You lack understandinding, tact and grace. Man wasnt designed to know His creator with the five senses. You are appealling to demonic teachings, maybe not now but certainly darkness will give way for light...

joshysmartie:
NOTHING IS EVIL OR DEMONIC ABOUT OBE
its all a matter of where you choose to be teleported to... sure its like a spirit world but u got control over yourself....
THERE ARE NO DANGERS
but even if there is cause am not same with you..... remember not to fear cox ure in kontrol.... you could choose to go to heaven self.. feeble minds...
go read more...

Are you well versed in this? No I doubt