₦airaland Forum

chinagorom419:
Ooh pls leav zik out of dis..he disgrace to igbo..we dnt regard him...
Did I hear u say nigerian armed forces defeated Great Odimegwu Ojukwu (nigerian nightmare).....haha..I laf at ur stupidity..it shld be a shame to u dat only d east fought d entire nigeria and their ussr,usa and britain allies and dealt a great blow ...dat war was fought for 3yrs...even when we the biafrans r using crude armoury...is dat nt a shame to ur expired country?..Ojukwu fought the world...imagine d war was btw your tribe and d rest of d country..u ppl would hav been history by now....we fight because we r Biafrans..blueblooded sturborn tribe...we dare where other tribes can neva dream of....jeolusy is wat is killing u ppl..u guys can't help but wonder how we grow stronger,richer,powerful and wiser even wen little is given to us...and may I remind you.
Ojukwu is our moses..but he is not our joshua...that is if ur empty skull can comprehend that....you descendant of a coward tribe...

SouthWestBlood:
The errors are there and late to fix. It'll see the party crumbling. Look at what Tinubu commented about Atiku lately.

mrblessed:
Power is driven by the ability to influence and control. Sometimes, power is maliciously used against the people from whence it came. And politics speak nothing but interest - whether it is short or long term. It will amount to political naivety and grave miscalculation to pay tribute to Tinubu after his uncharacteristic criticism and opposition of his party's candidacy and chairman. Tinubu broke all known convention - as a 'national leader of the party' - by making his displeasure known through his furious, open letter. That his demands were dismissed with a wave of hand depicts his true standing in the party. Again, it will be a slap on the faces of Buhari and other leaders who are determined to roll back Tinubu's influence in the South West and cut him to size. You don't need a degree in political science to understand that real political power resides with the president and the party chairman, not with Tinubu. A lesson any aspiring candidate must learn if they are to succeed. Tinubu has seemingly become a political liability; aligning with him is a clear opposition to the president, and a fastlane to failure. Akeredorlu stated the obvious when he said paying tribute to the president and chairman of party covers all leaders of the party, not minding how big or small they are, or what influence and prestige they command. This is an unfamiliar terrain for Tinubu, a pathological narcissist, who is almost always feted by political aspirants. Nonetheless, he shot himself in the leg by accepting the nominal title of ' national leader of the party', even when is he aware that there is no real power behind it. Talk about crass titlemania and the compulsive penchant to remain revelance. In the aftermath of Ondo election, Lauretia Onochie, one of President Buhari's never-ending media aides, sounded the death knell of godfatherism in the APC, by stating that no one should claim party victories in Edo and Ondo states. Pray tell, why Akereredolu - a new recipient of Buhari's favour - should defy this unwritten code of conduct.

OPCNAIRALAND:
Politics is an innate culture to Yoruba, second to our nature. Aimed at winning our focus become so caustic that we become like the proverbial aguntan whose hunger for sweet flowers is an instinctive passion that blinds him, under impulse he marches all over the pile of fine china ahead and causes destruction and loss.

Why do we find it so easy, at the meet of a human barrier in our political stride, to change loyalty? Stories abound all over Yorubaland, and in every state, of political candidates that shifted loyalty from their platform to opposition because of what they thought is an easy path around obstacles blocking them from victory. With so many jumps inbetween the loosing party and the gaining party end up in competition for winning offices, rathern than serving the people. This is why Yorubaland is not moving forward with ideas and political supremacy, in spite of the many assets and infrastuctures to our credit. We are simply not commanding the political landscape in tune with our social values.

We need a critical review of events leading to loss of Ilorin. How and why did communication between Alaafin and Afonja break down? If we can begin to manage communication between conflict points we should get a good result in unification of purpose and vision and thus mitigate painful and irreversible losses.


On the ongoing issue with Tinubu the underlying problem has to do with concessions.

No doubt we have had many great leaders in Yorubaland, Tinubu leadership comes with a new flavour that matches nicely into the challenges of modern Nigeria. The single challenge facing Nigerian ethnics is self-preservation. Any region that refuses to nurture and manage its domain with strategic policies for sustainability will end up in a struggle to save it from ruin and neglect. Today in Nigeria Yorubaland is an exception to the overall ruin and neglect witnessed in other regions. This is made so courtesy of Tinubu and his graduating corps of administrators. His vision is to produce a cadre of public administrators deployed in abundance across Yorubaland to mirror and achieve in their own states what he achieved for Lagos. These administrators in turn become mentors like him to raise their own sets of managers to help build and sustain our urbane culture and values.

Under ACN, an incoming governor meets the outgoing, they shake right hands, the outgoing stretches out his left hand and passes the "blueprint" to the incoming. The transition is complete, simple! No administrator comes into office twiddling thumb wondering where to begin....its contained in the blueprint. He adds his own in the course of accumulating exposure and strength. When he leaves the blueprint he passes on is more enriched with Best Practices than the one he inherits.

Another part of Tinubu's vision is tenure. Four years is insufficient amount of time for a governor to exercise and deliver on the principles we Yorubas hold dear in our society, each governor is therefore strenghtened by the party to serve an eight year full term. The exception has been Fayemi. He took his eyes off the ball.


In discussions leading to the merger of ACN with other parties into APC Tinubu got far more concessions than others because ACN was the only party in the alliance with the broadest ruling power and acceptance. In terms of delivery his voting bloc has the brightest opportunity to change destiny. Most of those concessions were geared towards protectivism for West. Tinubus forehead would almost touch his knees when he bowed to Buhari....but when the meeting ended himself and Baba Akande left with pockets overflowing in political goodies.

Tinubu had to relinquish some of these priviledges when it became expedient to do so. For instance in the absorption of renegade PDP governors and senators that crossed and came to APC. He had to ask some of his stewards to yield state leadership and allow the incoming PDP governor senator to take leadership. This was not the plan going in but this is the strategy of changing destiny. Kwara state, Kogi state, Adamawa state and Kano state were badly impacted by this decision. Tinubu showed flexibility in leadership.

In the APC primary, held in Lagos, Tinubu was able to win some more concessions for Yoruba states.

The CPC wing of APC did not believe Buhari could win after trying and failing for a decade and a half. Buhari himself did not believe in a win and was more fortified with plans for break down of law and order than he was of a plan to rule the country. This laxity in strategy and confidence was exposed in his wobbly decisions after taking office. In that interim CPC came to realization that they came out short in the negotiation for merger and also in primary. The Yorubas are sitting on a administration that was won by North. So they plotted to chip away at the Yoruba advantages.

The Saraki/Ekweremadu and Dogara/Lasun caught the President by surprise but not Tinubu. He knew where that enemy came from...CPC.

Then he was betrayed again in Kogi election. He had intended to reward in Kogi those who stood by APC when PDP deserters were brought in to head leadership. So he felt bad that one after the other his words and promises to loyalists are not holding because a new column inside the party was undermining him.

The Northerners were the first to cry out that Buhari was being manipulated. Then his wife cried out.

In Ondo, primary was rigged in favor of Akeredolu. The party's own BoT looked into the issue and agreed and obtained commitments from party chairman, Oyegun and the candidates to redo primary. Oyegun then came out, in disregard for his own BoT to say there will not be another primary and Akeredolu is the party candidate. Im not sure Oyegun gave thought into the consequences of that action. Tinubu was furious! Beside the damage done by Oyegun's action, Ondo is Yoruba state. This is his concession. Why are they robbing him of agreements commited to at the merger and the primary?

Fayemi and Fashola on their end are reacting to pressures. Northerners have sent letters to Buhari to call Fayemi to order. He is accused of stepping over civil servants of Northern background to put his Yoruba people in lucrative positions. This is not true but its a strategic pressure point to give the apperance of incompetence and then an imminent loss of his job. In reaction he allies with the Abuja group to pacify their fears.

Fashola has also heard from the Northerners who highlited that they have the largest land area and thus highest need for electricity and they are not sure he can meet their needs. In other words, your are a minister of power for the southern states. Isnt that crazy? To make their claim a reality they went ahead and contracted GE to build five feeders for power generation and distribution in North. Where will the money from?
Remember VAT and NE Recovery and Development fand?

So Fayemi and Fashola are only acting in self preservation...but how about the VP who remains steadfastly with Tinubu? Like Aisha Buhari, the VP is on the ground to see what is happening in the Presidency. He sees it all, and steers clear of it. He was not appointed, he was voted in and his job is statutorily protected. He can tell the columnists to fvk off if he chooses and thrre is nothing they can do to his job. Fayemi and Fashola were appointed and can be fired....moreover, they are not in Aso Rock to witness the maneuvres but they understand why and where the Northern pressure on them is coming from.

There is nothing in the Presidency for Tinubu to loose, its not his administration....but there is plenty for him to loose in Yoruba States. So I say to my fellow Yorubas, those cheering and jubilating Tinubu loss and his humiliatiin, you are jubilating loss and humiliation of Yoruba states. Our states collectively are a higher political heirarchy than any individual component state or administration and far above status of Tinubu, Akeredolu, Fashola, Fayemi or Buhari.

This id not Abuja vs Lagos, this is not Tinubu vs Akeredolu or Buhari.....this is CPC vs ACN and their intent to weaken our political gains, a calculation into permanence and complete eradication of any idea or agenda championed by Yoruba to restructure Nigeria.

Take heed and stop feeding an imaginary battle line within. The true battle line is outside and from North.

ODVanguard:
At this rate, Akeredolu may just end up as another Mimiko in waiting. Mimiko said worse things about Tinubu throughout his tenure. Infact, the average Ondo person's mind has been so poisoned by Mimiko and PDP in the state against the same Tinubu that they so much hate the guy, foolishly believing that his political interest in the state was to plunder it (which logically doesn't even make sense considering how poor Ondo is compared to Lagos), when in fact his interest was merely a part of his adventure to forge political cohesion in the region and nothing more.

But where is the same Mimiko today? Politically he has been practically retired from active politics and has remained a featherweight with his influence limited to Ondo town while the much maligned Tinubu commands more relevance and followership than he does politically even today. Aketi shouldn't get too carried away with his victory as Tinubu will bounce back, he's been down this road many a times. He should go and ask the likes of Gbenga Daniel and other retirees.

HungerBAD:
Chief Rotimi Akeredolu.

It is just too early for you to start this way.

Your explanation is even more of an insult to Tinubu, and those sending you to ridicule him, will leave you out in the cold when it is your time to face the heat.
My Dear, you have made very salient remarks. I couldn't have said it better. I wish he retraces his steps.
You are new in Politics, and this is how you want to start?remember there is a reason why Western Politics is called the Wild Wild West Politics, and towing this line will educate you on how that name was gotten.

When Tinubu congratulated you on all National Dailies, he specifically mentioned your name and wished you well. The path you are towing, is exactly why i do not like Lawyers, who for some strange reasons think they are smarter than everybody, with their knack for twisting the English Language.

You refused to mention his name, and as a man own up to it, instead of trying to twist words. Chief Rotimi Akeredolu, if i were you, i will quickly close rank with the Tinubu faction of the APC because as they say, Politics is local.

When the time comes, Oyegun will not leave Benin to come to the West or Buhari the North for you.

HungerBAD:
Chief Rotimi Akeredolu.

It is just too early for you to start this way.

Your explanation is even more of an insult to Tinubu, and those sending you to ridicule him, will leave you out in the cold when it is your time to face the heat.

You are new in Politics, and this is how you want to start?remember there is a reason why Western Politics is called the Wild Wild West Politics, and towing this line will educate you on how that name was gotten.

When Tinubu congratulated you on all National Dailies, he specifically mentioned your name and wished you well. The path you are towing, is exactly why i do not like Lawyers, who for some strange reasons think they are smarter than everybody, with their knack for twisting the English Language.

You refused to mention his name, and as a man own up to it, instead of trying to twist words. Chief Rotimi Akeredolu, if i were you, i will quickly close rank with the Tinubu faction of the APC because as they say, Politics is local.

When the time comes, Oyegun will not leave Benin to come to the West or Buhari the North for you.

SillyMods:
I can take side based on the information at my disposal. The same information available to every other Nigerian.

Openly asking for Oyegun to resign was a miscalculation.

Not campaigning or supporting his party in Ondo was a wrong move.

Asking Oke to join AD was anti-party activity.

Instructing his loyalists (Aregbe, Ambode and Ajimobi) not to honor the president's invitation to attend the grand rally to campaign for Akeredola was a step too far. Those three couldn't have taken that decision on their own without his input.

Tinubu may have a good ground to feel bad but cutting off the head is not the solution to a headache.

Now that his influence has greatly been reduced, not only in APC but also in the SW, what more can he do to fight the enemies within in APC?

chinagorom419:
Ooh pls leav zik out of dis..he disgrace to igbo..we dnt regard him...
Did I hear u say nigerian armed forces defeated Great Odimegwu Ojukwu (nigerian nightmare).....haha..I laf at ur stupidity..it shld be a shame to u dat only d east fought d entire nigeria and their ussr,usa and britain allies and dealt a great blow ...dat war was fought for 3yrs...even when we the biafrans r using crude armoury...is dat nt a shame to ur expired country?..Ojukwu fought the world...imagine d war was btw your tribe and d rest of d country..u ppl would hav been history by now....we fight because we r Biafrans..blueblooded sturborn tribe...we dare where other tribes can neva dream of....jeolusy is wat is killing u ppl..u guys can't help but wonder how we grow stronger,richer,powerful and wiser even wen little is given to us...and may I remind you.
Ojukwu is our moses..but he is not our joshua...that is if ur empty skull can comprehend that....you descendant of a coward tribe...

Olu317:
...I will pardon your ignorance for calling Tinubu “brainless ". However, I will open your eyes to what godfatherism is all about, which had existed during the days of the Levant (Biblical period). The history of the Israelites at one time or the other have always had different leaders occupying different positions. For instance, apart from Moses and Aaron being the core leaders, each group had appointed leader to represent reach tribe of Israel. So how don't you think those leaders were chosen?, the elders system and kingly system, are they not divinely appointed?, So God created leaders for different purposes and true leader has great record before them. Jagaban, if not anything, has produced two governors that has made Lagos which is the toast of Africa what it is today irrespective of the disrespect from some quarters. Whom God has chosen, no man can unmake him. Then coming to your Southeast that you don't even have much knowledge on, they practice godfatherism farther than Yoruba if you doubt. Take the case study of COSCHARIS boss, and CAPITAL OIL boss, where the former accused the latter of not paying back the loan he stood as guarantor for the latter. Do you the case was taken to the elders in the East to resolve the issue? How come you claim you don't have godfathers in the East? ,If there isn't godfatherism in the East, how come Ibos decided to celebrate Ibo day in YORUBA land? you need to use the “GOLDEN THOUGHT" before you posit your view. So, godfather is a form of chosen an arrow head from within the wisest among the leaders( not the best among them all) but to represent the people and who is expected to speak the direction to which the people will go after deeper decision had been made from the caucus . The main 800,000+ voters should be a major concern for the CPC party of Akeredolu in Ondo State .

HungerBAD:
Chief Rotimi Akeredolu.

It is just too early for you to start this way.

Your explanation is even more of an insult to Tinubu, and those sending you to ridicule him, will leave you out in the cold when it is your time to face the heat.

You are new in Politics, and this is how you want to start?remember there is a reason why Western Politics is called the Wild Wild West Politics, and towing this line will educate you on how that name was gotten.

When Tinubu congratulated you on all National Dailies, he specifically mentioned your name and wished you well. The path you are towing, is exactly why i do not like Lawyers, who for some strange reasons think they are smarter than everybody, with their knack for twisting the English Language.

You refused to mention his name, and as a man own up to it, instead of trying to twist words. Chief Rotimi Akeredolu, if i were you, i will quickly close rank with the Tinubu faction of the APC because as they say, Politics is local.

When the time comes, Oyegun will not leave Benin to come to the West or Buhari the North for you.

Newmanluckyman:
... Pls how old are you? You sound so dull .

SillyMods:
Tinubu brought this on himself.

He's too overbearing and domineering, which if not put under control will cause him more loss of influence.

Can anyone imagine Tinubu romancing with Fayose just because you lost out in Ondo and a few other places!

Well, those the god wants to destroy, he first makes them mad.

hero2000:
You are building political theories just with your mouth! If you understand politics you won't say the things you said:

"that his (Tinubu's) demands were dismissed with a wave of hand depicts his true standing in the party."

You bestow on PMB the authority he does not have yet. How big is GEJ's political influence today? I am not saying he does not have but right now his party is in shambles so his influence is not much nationally. PMB's will atrophy if APC becomes deserted too. And all those who call their elders mad because of a current president should be careful. Where is the powerful David Mark today?

Even if Aketi feels animosity against Tinubu he should be wise about it. He should not be like Fayose.

deji15:
The mouth does not recollect eating yesterday. In 2012, Tinubu supported this same Akeredolu.

OPCNAIRALAND:
And if they don't....

Paperwhite:
[/b]"He said having acknowledged President Muhammadu Buhari who is the recognised national leader of the party and the National Chairman, Chief John Odigie-Oyegun, it was safe to infer that he had acknowledged all party leaders."[b]
.This is simply because they now have the so called Jagaban Borgu in their pocket.Buhari-now "national leader"? Abeg join me laugh.

promizchild:
If you are a politician or a leader in any organization who has contributed immensely to your party and then experience a gang up attack I am sure you will not talk like this, beyond the information on the media, there is always a tradition that if you are a leader, if you are not honored in any other regions, they must honor your opinion in your own house(Southwest). This is not the first time Tinubu will be humiliated in this government, have you forgotten Saraki/ Dogora's game? What about selection of ministers, how about Edo state and most of the insult in his Own region, "who will they be killing gradually and will not react?" I beg leave Tinubu alone and morn the destruction that comes on APC, Buhari and Hausa dominated government.

Olu317:
....You are a fool beyond redemption. I truly understand the difference between someone like you that was born some years before the advent of G.S.M .No wonder you lacked the nitty gritty to understand the principle of politic. A baby like you needed to be schooled. Guess what? when you were still spoon fed, I was already a student of politics, and still relevant in my community, are you in yours? So that should be a credible answer to you. And those years ,those who probably had your opinion were voiceless and meaningless because your opinion belong to the dogs..Go to school and start from the history of Nigeria,when Western Nigeria was the first Region to be independent from Nigeria before you can exchange banter with me. Beside, you don't even have what it takes to exchange with my trainees how much me? lucky you, for having access to the internet.

Olu317:
...If in Yoruba land ,IFA is consulted to choose

If IFA (power of divinity) is consulted to choose a king in Yoruba land, then you will see the reason for godfatherism, though truth may tarry but time will tell. I had expected you to tell me President Buhari is the godfather of Akeredolu as it stand. “TInubu" has a golden sight, you don't know this, do you?, the Lagos State that many of you run to is the making of Tinubu because God anointed him as a political Yoruba leader. So don't inform wrongly. I hold to my beliefs because it belong to a higher school of thought than yours which you don't belong and you will never understand. As simple as ABC

Banee:
Mr governor elect, please I think you should learn from history, the outgoing governor Mimiko, also started like this, it was obvious Tinubu was instrumental to his mandate been reclaimed but immediately he took over, he showed his other side of being a chamelon.He never listened to any word of wisdom from the elders such as Tinubu.Today I hope you know where he is.
May be I should bring to your notice that the coming to Ondo by Dangote to site rifenery here, was on the impectus of Tinubu that all see in Ondo as someone who want to take away their resources, but our dear Mimiko wants to bite more than the owner, and it is obvious to all where the rifenery is sited presently.You may ask me the source of this information, kindly consult the open letter written by Chief Adebayo of Ekiti to the Jagaban.
Don't allow sycophant to derail what God want you to achieve, the time has just started counting, 4yrs is like a seconds.

anyaekekehinde:
I have just been reading your numerous rant since..
It's obvious You are so pained.
You talk as if kings don't die and empires don't crash..
Nawa for you ooo

ernieboy:
and what was the outcome? was it not the same tinubu that vehemently opposed his emergence?

deji15:
That you do not support someone at the primaries does not mean you "vehemently oppose" them. Some people courts Tinubu's support in 2012 too before he decides to support Akeredolu.
There is a Yoruba adage that says when the mouth eats, the eye should have some shame. Being ungrateful is not what the Yorubas are trained to be.
Do you know that Mimiko did the same thing that Akeredolu is doing now to Tinubu? After receiving Tinubus support at some point, they turn around to denigrate him. How did Mimiko ends up today? People should think deep and have insights into issues.
We are saying all this, not because of today, but because of tomorrow.

ernieboy:
are u insinuating that mimikos chosen candidate did not win because mimiko was not appreciative of tinubu? BTW there are insinuations that he was a sellout to APC to avoid efcc probe the gov elect has already promised not to probe him( that is one of the key reasons for wanting to pick a successor). I don't think mimiko has anything to regret.

ernieboy:
"Lagos state that many of you run to is the making of tinubu"

Guy I always make effort to sound courteous but the statement above is one if the most ignorant statements I have read. how is Lagos state, a former capital territory build with Federal revenue from across the country the making of one man? Lagos was already a commercial hub long before tinubu became a governor. how did tinubu make Lagos?

ernieboy:
"Lagos state that many of you run to is the making of tinubu"

Guy I always make effort to sound courteous but the statement above is one if the most ignorant statements I have read. how is Lagos state, a former capital territory build with Federal revenue from across the country the making of one man? Lagos was already a commercial hub long before tinubu became a governor. how did tinubu make Lagos?

enigmaticmotik:
To apologise to a party that keep undermining his influence after his input into the eventual emergence of their candidate as the president... that is really laughable

QuotaSystem:
If anyone is undermining himself, it's Tinubu.

Nobody has explained how it is not shameful and utterly disgraceful for Tinubu to have descended so low as to work against his own party for selfish reasons.

Try to justify that.

OAUTemitayo:
Please provide evidence that Tinubu worked against APC?
I don't want fallacies that makes a Fulani student with a zero score in JAMB to be selected ahead of a Yoruba student with a JAMB score of 270.

QuotaSystem:
I'm quite sure you're aware you're not speaking to a toddler.

If Tinubu did not support Oke's candidacy (AD), why all the grievances at Aketi's emergence? Shouldn't APC's victory be a cause for celebration by Tinubu and his supporters?

Can you also outline what Tinubu did in support of his party's candidate?

Kindly ferry your juvenile shenanigans elsewhere.