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Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by paradigmshift(m): 10:04pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
xerxes456: Na so....leave the guy wey d read Bible like eze goes to school 1 Like |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by KingSango(m): 10:06pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
NinjaX: The ending of the life cycles can't be accomplished with the current culture that is on this Earth today. Sodomy, transgenderism, sexism, racism, corruption, evil white magic and a host of other things that knock human beings off their destinies assigned by Orunmila. Death is winning. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by jimbson: 10:07pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
NinjaX:Bros that is why grace abound, also faith, and also Christ said BELIEVE in me. Have faith in God. He said and wen yea pray say also "and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us" u think its impossible. Bt God's word say "wit God nothin is Impossible" He said and the Holy Spirit wil teach us all truth" if u have the Holy Spirit in you. He wil guide u and show u d rite tins and part to take. The human mind cannot comprehend the ways of God. That is the main reason scientist today can't understand the way the mind works. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by foladara777(m): 10:11pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
4everGod:Answers in the same order asked... 1. If he has finished serving his sentence why not?? Mind u God will punish liars for eternity in blazing fire... Even humans know that is high handed 2. It is right to forgive... Forgiveness is good but that doesn't mean a person who kills should go Scot free... Am only saying that the people hurt by the murderer should forgive him... But he should be kept away from the society 3. Of course, it is right to sentence him... But even in courts, the severity of sentencing is determined but the number of times the accused has committed the murder... Therefore a first time offender is not given the same punishment as a twentieth time offender... But if he didn't commit a grievous offence, let's say traffic offense like over- speeding, then his punishment should be mild not equal to that of a murderer 2 Likes |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by SycophanticGoat: 10:11pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
paradigmshift: I didn't mention names oh.. One goat is already convulsing on my mentions.. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by sirTesco(m): 10:12pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
Life is choice, Heaven or Hell is also a choice.you cannot use your corruptiable knowledge to understand Heavenly things,Bible is not book of science, you understand with experiment, is God word. Stop deceivin urself and accept the Truth. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by foladara777(m): 10:14pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
4everGod:So are all sins equal... Is masturbation equal to killing thousands of people.. Is lying equal to raping young girls and boys... |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by streetzdreamz(m): 10:15pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
I stopped thinking religion when I was 6,7, it just never appealed to me, all those Sunday school teachings and all, the op ain't far from the truth, looking at the life of a man, its riddled with imperfections and shortcomings, as rightly said by someone that's where grace comes in, and the bible says I'll have mercy on who I'll have mercy on, meaning some has been destined, marked out for damnation just like pharaoh and Esau, everything just gets so muddled up at the end, your brain starts going into a frenzy, certainly this world didn't just come into being of its own accord, and thinking deep the bible didnt give answers to some major questions, everything all.boiled down to faith,grace,hope, and the likes, heaven and hell, the after life, is just three entities the bulk of the human problem hinges on, and of course with no evidence of its existence or what have you,stop thinking religion if you can, keep thinking religion if you can't stop, believe whatever you want, to each his/her own, when we all run out of time, we'd know where we'd open our eyes to, enough of this religious indoctrination, atheism nonsense!! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by foladara777(m): 10:16pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
sirTesco:Abegii... What's difficult to understand... All sinners are subjected to the same fate irrespective of degree or motive... If a starving mother steals to feed her kids, she goes to hell right?? |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by IlorinBoy1: 10:16pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
Thanks for the advert @activeplan. I don't understand these atheist people, live and let live. If you must post wrote ups, why use abusive words and mockery? Ask questions, stick with the facts, draw reasonable conclusions in arguments, not abuse people and mock them/their beliefs. But come to think of it o, even tho I'm not a Christian, I think that guy that analysed your write up paragraph by paragraph killed it. Word! 1 Like |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by Nobody: 10:19pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
[quote author=foladara777 post=51638890] Answers in the same order asked... So if a mass murderer or mass rapist finishes his prison term or in this context repents he should be set free and forgiven right? Put this next to your earlier comments 2. It is right to forgive... Forgiveness is good but that doesn't mean a person who kills should go Scot free... Am only saying that the people hurt by the murderer should forgive him... But he should be kept away from the society First you said the person should be forgiven then you say the person should be kept away from society. Do you see where God beats you at righteousness? IF ANYONE BE IN CHRIST HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE BECOME NEW. There is no segregatio with God. 3. Of course, it is right to sentence him... But even in courts, the severity of sentencing is determined but the number of times the accused has committed the murder... Therefore a first time offender is not given the same punishment as a twentieth time offender... But if he didn't commit a grievous offence, let's say traffic offense like over- speeding, then his punishment should be mild not equal to that of a murderer So you agree that a first time offender should be punished regardless of how previously good he has been yet you call God unjust? Put this next to your previous comments Do you know the value attached to a soul and why it should not be messed with or taken for granted? The Bible says , WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN IF HE GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD YET LOOSES HIS SOUL. If the whole world cannot be compared to one single soul then you would understand why God would spare nobody who messes with it or takes it for granted. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by SycophanticGoat: 10:20pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
Carmal90: I learnt it from your family.. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by Nobody: 10:23pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
Khd95:we are back from Church |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by Nobody: 10:25pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
foladara777: Its not about the equality its about the soul which commits it. Sin is Sin. You are looking at it from the angle of the gravity of the offence. God looks at it from the perspective of the Offender. WHY WOULD HE EVEN CONSIDER DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE AND TRY TO JUSTIFY IT? Justifying it means not admitting he is wrong or not repenting. All ACTS of sin carry the same weight because they are all sins to based on intent and action. Why lie when you can say the truth? Why rape anyone? Why masturbate or lust after anyone who would lead you to masturbation? Why even kill one person not to talk about thousands? Goes back to what i said about the value of a soul. If you knew what value God placed on your soul then even you would not want to sin against yourself not to talk about against others. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by Carmal90(m): 10:27pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
SycophanticGoat: Never! Ur madness is hereditary |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by foladara777(m): 10:28pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
[quote author=4everGod post=51639115][/quote] I know u really believe u are making sense right now but honestly you're not... A first time offender should be punished for his crimes... If a person kills for the first time, he should be set free??... Am actually more compassionate than God because while I will just punish a person who over speeds for three months with option of a fine, God will make him burn forever... That means if u lust after a woman for one minute and the trumpet sounds on the 60th second u will burn eternally just because of a minute's weakness... I don't have a problem with forgiving serial sinners, my problem is punishing good people who had a moment of weakness for all eternity... Is that just |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by SycophanticGoat: 10:28pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
Carmal90: Nope! Your family taught me.. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by Nobody: 10:28pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
DeSepiero: Christians invented grace? I find this too funny to birth anger |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by Nobody: 10:29pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
Smiles.... Black will always be black... And white will always be white... (For the wise) . . . Anyway... I commented becos I love the construction of this write up... The language usage is really impressive..... |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by foladara777(m): 10:30pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
4everGod:So a person who lies about his age to get a job in order to eat has the same soul as a person that kills and rapes Children for fun?? C'mon 1 Like |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by Carmal90(m): 10:31pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
SycophanticGoat: I know ur parents won't want to dwell on it, but shaa ask them how did ur grandfather died at market place. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by SycophanticGoat: 10:35pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
Carmal90: He emulated your own grandfather! 1 Like |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by Nobody: 10:37pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
NinjaX: You know atimes it's fun to engage these atheists in arguments because they always come up with fun ideas about life, the supernatural etc. If they would change, forget it you won't be the one that would make them change. God will reveal Himself to them at the right time. Do you know why the are bold to be saying all the blasphemy? God is God unlike the gods of the earth. Who would have dealt with them one time. They have the liver to insult God anyhow. Leave them they will soon know. the only thing is how soon ,that soon is, is what no one knows. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by Nobody: 10:40pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
foladara777: What is a Soul? |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by DeSepiero(m): 10:41pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
gwine0047: Muslims did? |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by treebuds: 10:45pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
NinjaX:Read more of the Bible and you will see that the mercy of God endures forever. You will see God saying he will have mercy on whom he will have mercy on. You will see confess your sin with one another. You will also work in the power of Holy Spirit because without the spirit of holiness you cannot be holy. Accept Jesus as you personal lord and Savior and every other things will be added. John said. I Baptise you with water but Christ whi is mightier will baptise you with Holy Spirit and fire Read the Bible very well and discover more about holiness and. Holy spiirit |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by Carmal90(m): 10:46pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
SycophanticGoat: Since u agreed ur father grandfather died miserably...why should I join issue with u? |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by drphantom: 10:49pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
NinjaX: Actually he answered your question fully! Your response to his further convinced me of what I suspected when I read your original post, which is you really don't understand righteousness. righteousness is better defined as a rightstanding wth God and not the absence of sin. Naijadeyhia has already done justice to the subject. I would suggest you read the book of Romans with an open mind and non preconceived definitions of what you are reading. 1 Like |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by SycophanticGoat: 10:50pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
Carmal90: After having followed the footsteps of yours. So you definitely should join issues with me because we share so much in common.. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by Carmal90(m): 10:54pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
SycophanticGoat: We don't have anything in common, ur lineage secret that u decided to open in public is what am advising u on....it is known fact to we insider of ur family predicament.... And Yoruba always said ENITI TIE TII BAAJE, MAA WAA EYAN KUN RAA NII. |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by dnte(m): 10:59pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
@op..let me ask u a question,, 'do u believe in evolution?' |
Re: Why I'm Convinced That No One Will Make Heaven, Be You A Christian Or A Pagan by cevek11: 11:03pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
This sounds like someone trying to justify the sins committed or planning to continue committing. God is big on forgiveness, and it's never too late to ask as far as you are alive. He sees the heart and can tell those who are genuine. |
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