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Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by Nascimento(m): 8:28am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Revelation1: Demons = fallen Angels. And demons are not like those things that are depicted in Hollywood movies. They're actually beautiful like their leader, Satan the devil. They're disobedient angels who were cast down to the earth. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by Nascimento(m): 8:34am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Just as a father never gave birth to a thief, that is how God never created demons. Like humans, God gave the angels free will. They have the power to choose. But sadly, like the child who chose to become a criminal, the disobedient angels, plus Satan, choose to spurn God's sovereignty. They became demons. But that doesn't mean that they now changed to hideous monster creatures like what we have in our movies. They still maintain they beautiful nature; only that they became vicious and cruel. Because just like Satan, they have a short period of time, before God, through his son Jesus Christ destroys them and all wickedness on earth. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by excel101(m): 8:46am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Revelation1:From what you said about the creature Leviathan, though I've not heard about it, and if its an animal like you said, then i believe its one of God's creatures. All that God created were really good, but its the Devil that possessed God's creature to arm or hurt mankind. Whatever God has created the Devil also has a replica of it. Just like the Holyghost that God gave to His children to dwell in them, Revelation1:From what you said about the creature Leviathan, though I've not heard about it, and if its an animal like you said, then i believe its one of God's creatures. All that God created were really good, but its the Devil that possessed God's creature to arm or hurt mankind. Whatever God has created the Devil also has a replica of it. Just like the Holyghost that God gave to His children to dwell in them, the Devil's replica of it is Demons. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by hardballripplez: 8:54am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Mailthaddeus:The creation of Jesus to God was like the creation of Adam. Jesus never claimed divinity. He said he healed the blind, raiseed the dead only by God's permission. If Jesus was not subjugated ofcourse he said he was ready to kill. The prophet never killed anyone, he was not a killer. why don't you bring evidences where it is stated that the Prophet Muhammad killed? is that too much to ask? I gave you pictorial evidences for most of my claims. If you believe in the divinity of jesus christ till the point of your death after hearing about the message of Muhammad ( peace be upon him) then you are doomed. That is the hard truth your pastors won't want to tel you. Why don't you think about the millions of westernerss, hundreds of thousand of African christians, millions of people from all around the world who on daily basis accept Islam? 1 Like
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Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by GerogeI(m): 9:21am On Jan 02, 2017 |
shumuel: Please research things before putting them down. The untrue image of Lucifer you paint is troublesome and dangerous. Lucifer or "heylel," "heosphoros" or "lucifer," also called the dragon, is the Light bearer and is not second in command to God, although he was a high ranking being, a Cherub. Remember, "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God" John 1:1. That tells us Christ was there with God in the beginning. Lucifer was created, part of all the other none earthly things created through the word of God. As to his role in heaven - it was said that he walked before God, as in leading a procession that goes before a royalty. Hence was created simply beautiful. Am not to sure about this role of it, as it is based on the meaning of its name. But then it's role on earth was quite clear. He was at the Garden of Eden, Ezekiel 28:11-17: "Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee." Why was it there- as a covering angel? as the light bearer? not too sure When did it commit the sin? It says iniquity was found in it, other verses said it desired to ascend to heaven and replace the Almighty - Elohim. That was its primary sin, but when did this occur, am not sure if on earth before or after Adam. Isaiah 14:12-15: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit." However it has other sins, directly or indirectly accruing to him - It rejected to rank lower than Adam, hence stole the kingdom of earth from him by deceit - Genesis - Corruption, of the Watchers, who came down on earth and corrupted men, revealing the secrets of heaven and bearing abominations as offsprings - the book of Enoch, the origin of elemental spirits that the op sought to know about. - As the Prince of Persia, Daniel 10:12-21 it waged war against heaven on earth, before Christ defeated it when He descended into hell after crucifixion. Christ took back from it the Kingdom and Authority it stole from Adam. Yes, before Christ it seems it closely ranked Arch Angel Gabriel, not sure it out ranked Micheal, it operated with the authority of Adam, who God had made a little above the angels. After Christ, it is definitely lower than all Angels. Defeated -Revelation. Revelation 12:7-12: "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him" Bottom Line, The Lucifer Adam faced has since changed in status and rank, having been defeated by Christ, it ranks so much lower than us humans, and is awaiting the fulfilment of time for its demise. Christ speaking himself said: Luke 10:18-20: "And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven." |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by Nobody: 9:29am On Jan 02, 2017 |
hardballripplez: You mean like these. Youtube calls you a liar!!! Youtube is overloaded with proof that you are a liar!!! These are a few videos out of the thousands on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dors_zGu7yA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itBBEYHI-Vc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI_jxGrAZ6g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haYpUNTU21c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8WrLrrNCjQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KITAYQ3gvBc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI6gErxo44I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYE9j5qUdxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__sukFZPOxc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sIDphS0R6c 1 Like |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by huntax(m): 9:29am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Revelation1:Only God has the power to create living or spirit beings. God created ALL things. You being a christian, should already know that. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by GerogeI(m): 9:41am On Jan 02, 2017 |
huntax: God created humans and none humans, He made humans as his sons, in his image, and gave them a toy kingdom He appointed some none humans, to watch over this toy kingdom and his children These security men against their orders, went into the kingdom and took over, Started bearing their own offsprings, hybrid with men. They where nether completely human or completely spirits. Gods biggest henchman, Arch Angel Micheal was sent to restraint these security soldiers He did so, and killed of all their offsprings on earth He was further instructed to constrain the foul spirits of these offsprings on earth till the day of reckoning when they will be destroyedfor their is no place for them in heaven, unlike the spirit of men when they die. These foul spirits roam the earth, ever thirsty, but never satisfied. They are the demonic spirits and leviathan all around. They are the spirits of the offsprings of the fallen angels, and they seek to torment men. Book of Enoch 1 Like |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by hardballripplez: 9:53am On Jan 02, 2017 |
4everGod:Lies. The guy in the other clip is called Khalid yasin( you can google the name). He was a christian who converted to Islam and became a preacher. Allah made it hapen that through him thousands would convert to Islam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l53OBEpx6P0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKg0EB_ckRk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiNX35d1WKc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYMKQKSV0bY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW99U4JWNEc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXIBBCcJfRc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aaRfU3axpA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xhZ00xnHIA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVWShgimuro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwBAPxgTruU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_to2l0SVkQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpntR8S3RFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOeAWy2vTCA Kindly go watch these videos. May Allah guide you to the truth if you truly seek it. don't follow lies. Khalid Yasin was a former christian not a muslim who converted to christianity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2zjTKx3Yw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqBbUVD24zc 1 Like
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Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by hardballripplez: 9:56am On Jan 02, 2017 |
4everGod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRAOlTyQcwE |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by Gunnaz007: 10:04am On Jan 02, 2017 |
It is God's pleasure to conceal a matter, and the honour of kings to search out that matter. Precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little, there a little... Isaiah 45:5-12 will give you a clue alongside several other scriptures: 5. I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6. That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. 7. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. 8. Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it. 9. Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands? 10. Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth? 11. Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me. 12. I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by hardballripplez: 10:11am On Jan 02, 2017 |
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Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by Mrfixitxtech: 10:26am On Jan 02, 2017 |
chieveboy: What you are talking about is called a Poltergeist |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by hardballripplez: 10:30am On Jan 02, 2017 |
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Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by Mrfixitxtech: 10:32am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Nascimento: Too much Movies, They are not beautiful, They Appear in The Shape of Human, So are Angels. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by hardballripplez: 10:33am On Jan 02, 2017 |
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Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by hardballripplez: 10:48am On Jan 02, 2017 |
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Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by hardballripplez: 10:50am On Jan 02, 2017 |
MYJIST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLvAbMP2lY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGpDusvtUJo |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by hardballripplez: 10:54am On Jan 02, 2017 |
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Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by chieveboy(m): 11:37am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Mrfixitxtech: "They" or "You"...am not the OP...in anycase, I have first-hand experience with the subject matter, not something I only read about. Thanks. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by chieveboy(m): 11:48am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Drdreyy: In this case: to each his own! Thanks. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by ccollins(m): 12:08pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
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Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by Nobody: 1:12pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
Demons are creature of God but they rebelled against him with satan and became evil. Just like we have good spirits and evil spirits. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by Nobody: 1:22pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
Anas09:One word to describe your level of reasoning: simpleminded. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by Nobody: 1:34pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
Billyonaire:You never get tired of plagiarizing other people's works and claiming them as your own findings. All these your posts on Nairaland forum on topics related to God, religion and other esoteric concepts, are just simple "copy-and-paste" write-ups -- albeit with some minor unfounded additions. No originality. No uniqueness. No veracity. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by oxmale: 4:12pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
shumuel:Lucifer once exalted over christ. It never happened. Christ has been God even he came to the earth. All the angels God created has a specific role. Michael is an Archangel. The word archangel means angel of the highest rank. He is a warrior and the commander of the army of God and endowed with supernatural strength. Gabriel is the archangel in charge of the end time harvest of the church. There was no where in the bible lucifer was described as having power. Here are his attribute, he's beautiful, intelligent, crafty, cunning and very knowledgeable but not so strong in terms of power and strength. Some Archangels are far greater than he when it comes to battle. Lucifer(sataniel) been very crafty was able to deceive other angels. It might interest you to know that some of the angels he deceived are more powerful than he eg azrael - the angel of death. Only Christ could defeat death not even other archangels. But as the saying goes "You are servant to whom you obey" the angels after obeying Satan became subject to him. Lucifer was endowed with beauty, wisdom, knowledge but not very strong in power and strength. I am very sure Michael will kick his ass. Uriel another war angel will even deal with him. Michael after defeating satan was promoted to the rank of a prince. Daniel 12:1... |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by sonmvayina(m): 4:53pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
Nascimento:Satan is not the devil, Satan devil, Lucifer are 3 different spirits..Enlil is Satan, he is the destroyer, he is the one that brought the flood of Noah. his son Ninurta is the devil and inanna who is Ninurta daughter is Lucifer..They all make up the Elohim. they are 12 of them..the same 12 in Yoruba, Ibo roman, Greek pantheon but with different names..they make up the Elohim(GOD)..The creator of all is sometimes included to make it 13..he sits figuratively as the head of the pantheon(please see Psalm 82).. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Olympians http://www.afropedea.org/yoruba-pantheon-orisa-gods |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by shumuel(m): 5:03pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
oxmale: Sigh... This is the problem christianity has, everyone trying to form prof as if they were there when it happened,, wel like had said i wasn't there and i would like to lay more emphasis on '' I wasn't there'' i had only spoken base on what the Bible and Christian journals had writen. Now please don't mince my words, i said Lucifer was second in command but i never said ''Over'' Jesus, but ''Before'' Jesus. Before Jesus became manifest, Lucifer had already been cast out of Heaven. Now, ask yourself why Jesus Christ was never mentioned during those times, why Jesus Christ was never mentioned in the old testament but only refered to as the Son of Man or Messiah ? Please ask yourself these question and you would understand me more, also please read the book of Revelations for clerifications. Further more, some athiest had been feeding themselves with some Journals about Enki and Enlil or so, now in this journals Lucifer was refered to as a brother of God, now why would they think so ? I would really like you ask yourself these questions. Now, if Michael and Gabraiel, e.t.c were higher in rank than Lucifer, why then did Michael got promoted @bolded ? Hmm I guess you think so because Michael and others defeated Lucifer isn't, now thats not right, so because PMB is the president means an Ambode can not beat him up, isn't that what your thought would mean ? Anyways had said too much, but know this, am a christian who loves Jesus Christ so much and i also love christianity to death but i would never speak, argue or fight blindly nor hide the truth just because i Love my Lord. I don't want to argue, so i'll speak no more on this topic, I WASN'T THERE, NEITHER WERE YOU. Bless! |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by emekaRaj(m): 7:06pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
Revelation1: Jinn aka Demons, were d first creatures dat were living on earth b4 Adam was sent down by God, u need to knw dat demons were once pious creatures, an wen they r pious and free of sins an worship God they become white like angels which is d reason why some pple see dem an think they saw an angel. The Satan u know today was once pious, an because he was pious he was white an was able to mingle with angels dats also y some tot he was an angel but he wasn't, it's was wen he disobeyed God an curse down frm heaven, dat he started gathering his army of demons dat they become black evil creatures, but there are still pious demon till date an they look like angels. Make no mistake among demons there are beast there r normal ones dat looks like human some of them very beautiful or handsome, among the one's dat looks like human, u will find a Christian a Muslim a jew, there are even atheist the last one I talked to told me dat he was an atheist, and I was shocked, just because they can see us an we can't see them doesn't mean they will believe in God. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by oxmale: 9:04pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
shumuel:what are you saying ? Even before satan was created christ has been existing. He existed same time as God and the holy spirit. Christ was not manifested after satan was thrown out. He even made reference to the war in heaven - luke 10:18 God ask the sons of God(angel) to worship christ, satan refused and rebelled and he was thrown out. Every christian scholar knows christ was the God of the old testament. - psalm 110:1 It was even through Christ the so called lucifer was created - John 1:1 Concerning the angels you misinterpreted me. I clearly stated each angel have different role. Michael is warrior and lucifer is a singer. Michael threw him out of heaven and God made him a prince. What's so difficult to understand ? Make more research. |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by shumuel(m): 9:51pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
oxmale: John 1:1 speak of a begining, that begining was of Earth and not of Heaven, when Earth was formed all the Angels were present, i repeat ''All the Angels'' which means they were already created. I think the problem here is comprehension, you are mincing my words,, when i say manifest i didn't mean created, i meant Glorified. Anyways, have heard you, just make sure you read Revelations and understand it well. Have an amazing year |
Re: How Did Demons Come Into Existence? Who Created Them? by shumuel(m): 10:16pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
oxmale: Please read this www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-isaiah6.htm |
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