HardMirror:
I remember an incidence, I was still a christian then. I told an elderly man that Jesus can't be happy with soldiers, the man realizing that christians wld be defenseless without the military rushed to defend "christian" soldiers, but I noticed his defense was not based on the bible but fire of how vulnerable christians are without the military. It is obvious than man made all these laws and God has nothing to do with christianity.

Wat I dislike abt atheists is deir hatred 4 oda pples religion. Y not open pples eyes instead dissin deir religion? U freely became an atheist so why forcin ur idea on oda pple invariably tryin 2 be "self-righteous". It's clear dat u're lost in d realm of life, if not, wat wld make a black man whose roots & cultures is embedded in fetish tins to say Ders no God? I mean it's jst plain stewpidity! & a whole lot of ignorance. I mean u're stuck here in 9ja & u formin atheist? U be ode in short. U're just a white man wanabe. Any African dat claims atheist is jst lost in d world. I mean I hav witnessed pple pay 4 d repercussions of a taboo dey committed. Wat abt yoruba magun? Is dat illusion Infact get dafuq outa ddis thread, "uncle-sam wanabe"

HardMirror:
The days of fighting physical battles is over, in fact if the bible is to be followed, it is even a sin to take vengeance in any form. The New testament makes it clear that gone are the days of an eye for an eye. It is the age of turning the left cheek when the right cheek is slapped. It is an age of fighting with spiritual weapons. It is an age of evangelism and not warfare.

There seems to be Absolutely NO REASON why a christian should be a soldier. Jesus would certainly from at any of his sheep throwing bombs at souls he created.

What are your thoughts on this?

Can a soldier indeed go to heaven if killed in warfare? Can a christian be a soldier?





IS THERE ANY TIME A CHRISTIAN IS PERMITTED TO KILL? CAN A CHRISTIAN KILL IN SELF DEFENSE?

Op, u should add this to your arguments too. Can a brother, who kill his fellow brother too be saved? Bcoz there are all sort of Christians denominations in each country army, be it redeem, catholic, Methodist , etc, and yet they kill each odas

oteneaaron:


There is no Present without a Past.....

Have you heard of the Massacre ..JW's faced in Malawi because of not buying Party cards some years ago?....and the double standard that happened in Mexico??

OR....

Do you know that WATCHTOWER was registered as an N.G.O under the UN (the scarlet colored wild beast) some years go (not too long ago )

Bro, no one is Infallible.......

The Watchtower has a really dark past.. a shaky present....and a scary Future.

But Love for our heavenly Father, should surpass all......

I fear people who knows too much, to make them see reason is time wasting. What do i know? Am a baby, free me ple

princetom1:


Op, u should add this to your arguments too. Can a brother, who kill his fellow brother too be saved? Bcoz there are all sort of Christians denominations in each country army, be it redeem, catholic, Methodist , etc, and yet they kill each odas

Shut up there. I mean shutttttttt uppppppppp
Do u think christians are like shiites and sunnis
No denomination kill d oda.
I mean bros where where u vomitted from

robbinn:
so calling a military man a Christian iz wrong..:-

so he is now a muslim or an idol worshipper abii?? weeeelllllldoooonneeee

dallyemmy:
Luke 3:14

And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.

His reply seems contradictory considering the fact that his fore bears in the person of King David. ..was a ruthless soldier....

The Israeli yes were like the marauding Islamic herdsmen. ..displacing original settlers off their lands while visiting extreme violence upon them.

Jacob while serving under his master...was doing chuwa chuwa with his master''s sheep but we did not hear a voice from heaven condemning his actions...the Israeli tribal god was mute....

How can a man be content in the face of lack? Why do you strive for better wages...for better life...

No religious dogma should override man''s naturally propensity for self preservation.

HardMirror:
The days of fighting physical battles is over, in fact if the bible is to be followed, it is even a sin to take vengeance in any form. The New testament makes it clear that gone are the days of an eye for an eye. It is the age of turning the left cheek when the right cheek is slapped. It is an age of fighting with spiritual weapons. It is an age of evangelism and not warfare.

There seems to be Absolutely NO REASON why a christian should be a soldier. Jesus would certainly from at any of his sheep throwing bombs at souls he created.

What are your thoughts on this?

Can a soldier indeed go to heaven if killed in warfare? Can a christian be a soldier?





IS THERE ANY TIME A CHRISTIAN IS PERMITTED TO KILL? CAN A CHRISTIAN KILL IN SELF DEFENSE?

A Christian can be be soldier and can kill on lawful orders. God permits it on the basis of divinely delegated authority. If you require passages, I can provide

zionmade:


Shut up there. I mean shutttttttt uppppppppp
Do u think christians are like shiites and sunnis
No denomination kill d oda.
I mean bros where where u vomitted from

Haba, do i need to spell it? OK. Catholics are in Nigerian army, if we fight war with USA, catholics are in their army too and they will end up killing fellow christian, infact, fellow Catholics. So, u get now?

oteneaaron:


A True Christian --

the first line of argument you will be presented with is -- Jesus's own words where he said -- "By this all will know if your are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves......"

I.E, True Love is synonymous to True Christianity.

Second Line of Argument.......

Jesus said; " ...and this goodnews of the kingdom will be preached in all earth,....and then the end will come.."

I.E , True Christians need to be spreading the news about the kingdom to all parts of the earth.

...,,..there are more,...but the conclusion is that, these two Litmus Tests...coupled with others should be used to analyse each of Christendoms many denominations....and the one that passes ALL (not some) -- ALL the tests...are declared the True Christians.

The first part demands for UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. ◉Which includes love for your oppressors, persecutors, and all your enemies. It rules out revenge, as well as "self defence"◉

Even if all Christians meet the other requirements, how many people can EVER be capable of the above?

And we see many of them claiming "Christian" coming here to tell us how much they "love guns", consider vengeance sacred (under the guise of "justice" ), and find the idea of self-defense extraordinarily appealing.

What Good Christians!

actrinity:

Is israel not a christian state? Don't they have an army? You can now figure out the rest by yourself.

Isreal isn't a christian state. It's comprises of Jews and Muslims in larger populations than Christians.




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greenpasture:


A Christian can be be soldier and can kill on lawful orders. God permits it on the basis of divinely delegated authority. If you require passages, I can provide

I do, my good bro. Kindly provide them.

oluwaahmed:


Wat I dislike abt atheists is deir hatred 4 oda pples religion. Y not open pples eyes instead dissin deir religion? U freely became an atheist so why forcin ur idea on oda pple invariably tryin 2 be "self-righteous". It's clear dat u're lost in d realm of life, if not, wat wld make a black man whose roots & cultures is embedded in fetish tins to say Ders no God? I mean it's jst plain stewpidity! & a whole lot of ignorance. I mean u're stuck here in 9ja & u formin atheist? U be ode in short. U're just a white man wanabe. Any African dat claims atheist is jst lost in d world. I mean I hav witnessed pple pay 4 d repercussions of a taboo dey committed. Wat abt yoruba magun? Is dat illusion Infact get dafuq outa ddis thread, "uncle-sam wanabe"

Don't sweat brother, atheist don't see see reasons. My fiancee told me this last week, u will see what's not there wen u look too much .

I mean, they could be inteligent, but hey, even d bible said, the fools, say their is no God.

joyeSeraph:
Lol......

The comments so far PROVE that Christians are a confused set of people, or rather contemptible hypocrites, extremely dishonest, proficient at cherry-picking from their contradictory religious text, and fond of Orwellian doublethink.....

One begins to wonder if they really believe as they claim.

So far so good, the comments here only make me more sure that christians are stvpid.

princetom1:


I fear people who knows too much, to make them see reason is time wasting. What do i know? Am a baby, free me ple

No one knows too much............

But been blind to facts.....and reason is worse than death itself...

amnesty7:
"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me."
According to Luke 19:27 , Jesus commanded.

There is "time" for everything under the sun, time for peace, time for war, time to be born, the time to die, we need to have understanding of time.

We don't need to preach planting in the "time" of harvest
Sons of Isachar have understanding of "time" in the bible

zionmade:
The reason why atheists and Muslims always rush on sundays to raise stupid questions about Christianity is because an atheist just dnt have any peace of mind within himself knowing full well that thereis a hole in his heart only God can fill while the muslims know that what they practice is just useless but they cant leave it because of the death penalty awaiting them

How dare you term what millions believe in as useless. Perhaps your own faith is also useless and death penalty awaits your if you cross to the other side. Don't be a dunce.



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There is "time" for everything under the sun, time for peace, time for war, time to be born, the time to die, we need to have understanding of time.

We don't need to preach planting in the "time" of harvest
Sons of Isachar have understanding of "time" in the bible

princetom1:


Since u are on the subject matter, don't wanna write an epistle, those who don't partake in war or have anything to do with using arms and killing are excluded.

What do you mean by "excluded", bro?

joyeSeraph:
The first part demands for UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. ◉Which includes love for your oppressors, persecutors, and all your enemies. It rules out revenge, as well as "self defence"◉

Even if all Christians meet the other requirements, how many people can EVER be capable of the above?

And we see many of them claiming "Christian" coming here to tell us how much they "love guns", consider vengeance sacred (under the guise of "justice" ), and find the idea of self-defense extraordinarily appealing.

What Good Christians!

abeg why u dey lie like dis na.. where was unconditional love written naa oga atheist why u dey add ur own naa

Cusdamato:
abeg why u dey lie like dis na.. where was unconditional love written naa oga atheist why u dey add ur own naa

OGA .....he is right....how many types of love is there in the Bible...and which one are you as a christian supposed to exhibit....

Unconditional Agape Love.....

So who can beat his/her chest and claim they are showing...unconditional love??.......NO ONE....

Some have tried.....close....but not entirely....


Quote me if m wrong!

dalaman:
Christians know very well that the idiotic pacifism thought by Jesus is impossible. They can't ever follow his teachings. They just love to tall about how the Jesus talk about love. They will tell you that you are to love your enemies, love your neighbors as your self, turn the other cheek and the other nonsense Jesus said they should do that they NEVER follow. They only talk about it. Jesus went as far as saying that if a person takes your shirt you are to give him your shirt. He encouraged his followers to run away when prosecuted instead of fighting back.

The new testament is filled with idiotic pasifism that no christian ever follows. They NEVER follow it. They only keep repeating it like robots. They know very well that it is all nonsense and impossible to follow any of the nonsense Jesus said. That's why I can see felixmor and malvisguy212 crying baa baa baa, meh meh meh without using the bible to support anything they are saying. If it were another topic they'll be throwing bible verses at you like some deranged goats now all they can do is cry baa baa baa, meh meh meh.

You sound so idiotic.

Even David killed Goliath with a sling, that's killing too

cummando:

Atheist isn't it. I've met your type a lot and guess what they do when they stare at the end of my steamy hot Ak47..........




They say their last prayers.....to God! Case dismissed!!

i love this.

HardMirror:

So far so good, the comments here only make me more sure that christians are stvpid.

it is the stupid useless people from your useless stupid moronic religion that are uselessly foolishly nd moronically nd mentally retardedically stupid G.O.A.T

malvisguy212:
Is it wrong for governmental authorities to execute a murderer ?All murder is killing but not all killing is murder. Murder involves killing unlawfully with premeditated malice.

I think he is referring to bible-believing christians not government,
in other words will jesus be happy with killing ?

Cusdamato:
abeg why u dey lie like dis na.. where was unconditional love written naa oga atheist why u dey add ur own naa

Heyy, Cusdamato, where is the addition?Trying to redefine Christianity now? -Well, that's quite ambitious. Not a bad thing. You can burnish it and get rid of the toxic ideas that currently define it.

You can just rewrite the Bible. FINITO.

But, dear bro, Christianity, as it is now, demands that you LOVE your enemies. Did you forget, sir? What else qualifies as UNCONDITIONAL♡❤‿❤♡ LOVE? Don't be so quick to accuse others of lying. Don't be like Jesus, bro.

Now, I demand that you apologize for your unjustified crimination against me.

This is simple. A Christian can kill as many people as he wishes to. All his sins are washed away after asking for forgiveness. Hehehe.



But this daily onslaught on Christianity is unfair. Why the hell is Nairaland and Seun protecting Islam? Is he afraid he could be charged for inciting violence?

He's actually achieving the opposite: protecting unfounded blasphemy rights and preventing rational discourse that ultimately leads to compromise and thus less violent beliefs.

Cusdamato:
it is the stupid useless people from your useless stupid moronic religion that are uselessly foolishly nd moronically nd mentally retardedically stupid G.O.A.T

And you're a christian, born again and crazy in love with Jesus right??..

TYPICAL.

You call another man a goat.....and you claim to love your neighbor as ur self......OGA....go hide your head in the sand....

Ask yourself.....WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?

oteneaaron:


OGA .....he is right....how many types of love is there in the Bible...and which one are you as a christian supposed to exhibit....

Unconditional Agape Love.....

So who can beat his/her chest and claim they are showing...unconditional love??.......NO ONE....

Some have tried.....close....but not entirely....


Quote me if m wrong!

theres nothing like unconditional love sir jesus neva gave no uncoditional love to us it is humans like u that is misexplainin such word

Cusdamato:
it is the stupid useless people from your useless stupid moronic religion that are uselessly foolishly nd moronically nd mentally retardedically stupid G.O.A.T

Come on, where's the civility?

ollah1:


How dare you term what millions believe in as useless. Perhaps your own faith is also useless and death penalty awaits your if you cross to the other side. Don't be a dunce.



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If u guys dnt want ur useless religion to be insulted den stick to ur useless thread. Thank God we are not even allowed to comment there. So if u are ready to poke nose be ready to collect insults to ur useless Rubbish religion.