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Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by MMMscam: 1:21pm On Mar 05, 2017
olumosen:
You can correct my English. It's my first time of creating a topic.

As it was written in the bible that whosoever that do not believe in Jesus Christ won't be saved and will rot in hell. My question here is what will happen to those who never knew Jesus Christ?



I'm trying to figure out if you're being sarcastic or stupid. Because it seems to me you already answered your own question. How can you believe in Jesus if you never knew him? So, rationally, the outcome should naturally be the same - rotting in hell! There is an universal legal principle that says, "Ignorantia legis neminem excusat". It means ignorance of the law excuses not or ignorance of the law excuses no man. Now, if by man's standard, ignorance of a law doesn't grant a reprieve from the consequences of breaking the law, then how much more can we expect of God's laws. So those ignorant people will surely burn in hell. However, if your question implies that you want to know the technical details, well it's simple. Those who do not know Jesus will be judged by God by the laws of Moses, which means they will surely burn in hell. No one judged by the laws of Moses can escape damnation. So the outcome remains the same - HELL! Ignorance literally kills, whether scientifically, spiritually or otherwise.

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Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Pastafarian: 1:23pm On Mar 05, 2017
Billyonaire:
I was born a Christian, baptized into Christianity, became an Ordained Elder and received Aaronic Priesthood and annointed with the Melchizedek Priesthood after 2 years of great service as a preacher sometimes and working the Presidency of the Church. So when I preached, people were moved by emotions and they cried and I didnt even trust the God I was teaching about.

I left the church in search for God and it took my 3yrs after preaching to realize there is No God our there, this was after I studied the highest level of science for 3 yrs and I became Atheist for nearly 13yrs. Everyone in my clique knows and still believes that I dont believe there is God, cos Christianity painted God in the colours of Male-looking Sky Daddy that supervises all.

You see, my journey was not easy and is not easy. To come to my conclusion, I had to study Biogenesis, Astrophysics, Quantum Physics, Islam, Taosm, Confucianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism. I actually spent another 2 yrs with Jehovah witness to understand why they believe that there is nothing like soul. I was patient and listening, but it didnt had up and I moved on. I kept my search until latest scientific experiments on understanding Consciousness.

Now, everything makes sense, from Fibonacci sequence, to holographic universe, the gravitational force and blackholes etc actually can be better explained based on the Unified Field Theory - The Theory of Everything.

Good luck in your search, you will come to your conclusion at your pace. But the truth same where ever you find it. And the truth is "Ye Are Gods".

create a thread on your journey, let us learn
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by wizod(m): 1:27pm On Mar 05, 2017
They will be judged according 2 d laws of d land dat was guiding dem when they were alive.
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Mrmoz(m): 1:30pm On Mar 05, 2017
Jones4190:
Prior to Jesus coming to this earth, the Bible reveals that only a very
few had God's Spirit. These included some of the prophets and
individuals, such as David, with whom God specifically worked ( 1
Peter 1:10-11; Psalms 51:11).
Now we must determine when people enter the Kingdom of God. Many
people today assume that people who have died with the Spirit of God
are now in heaven. But the Bible reveals that this is a
mistaken assumption.
In A.D. 31 on the Day of Pentecost, the apostle Peter said of David,
“that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this
day” ( Acts 2:29). Years later, Paul wrote that the dead in Christ (those
who had died with God's Spirit) would be resurrected (brought back to
life) when Christ returns a second time to this earth ( 1 Thessalonians
4:17). The Kingdom of God will thus be established when Jesus
returns to this earth at some time in the future (Revelation 11:15).
The Bible reveals that no human beings have yet ascended into heaven
( John 3:13). All humans who have died (even those who have had
God's Spirit dwelling within them) are waiting in their graves for the
return of Jesus Christ to establish the Kingdom of God on earth.

I like your insight but just to add when ur wondering wat about those who died before christ you shld also wonder what he was doing for 3days after his death he went there for those who died before his coming and if the devil knew he would never has crusify him he went there take authority over death and to preach the goodnews to them that were dead and to all that believe that they may rise up with him

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Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Uncletony(m): 1:31pm On Mar 05, 2017
ntyce:
I have always wanted to know answer to this question as well as our forefathers who never heard the gospel

they will all be revive to life for another 1000yrs after the coming of christ. The devil himself(anti christ) will take charge of the world totally. The thing there is that, they have to pay the price christ paid for u and I all by themselves. If they survive no bowing to Antichrist yle accepting christ...they will make heaven. Read revelation from vs 1 to the end. Goodluck & happy sunday.
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by yahmaid04(m): 1:33pm On Mar 05, 2017
olumosen:
You can correct my English. It's my first time of creating a topic.

As it was written in the bible that whosoever that do not believe in Jesus Christ won't be saved and will rot in hell. My question here is what will happen to those who never knew Jesus Christ?
it is important to note that ALL the prophets of God preached one thing that is there is no god but God Almighty. MOSES, SOLOMON, NOAH, ENOCH all thought the same thing, so for you to come and say jesus is Lord or died for your sins is a mistake, Jesus was also a noble prophet of God who preached the same thing as the ones before him. There are over 125000 prophets since creation of mankind and all thought the oneness of God. Every messenger of God that comes to his people believe in the previous messengers, they are all a unit and prophet Muhammad peace be upon him is the last and final messenger of God. Thanks for your time!
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Mpanyi: 1:34pm On Mar 05, 2017
olumosen:
You can correct my English. It's my first time of creating a topic.

As it was written in the bible that whosoever that do not believe in Jesus Christ won't be saved and will rot in hell. My question here is what will happen to those who never knew Jesus Christ?


Where does the holy Bible tell you he who does not believe in Christ will rot in hell? Why are you judging those that don't believe or where born before the birth of Christ? Have you forgotten the same Jesus advised you should not judge?
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Radiantvessel(f): 1:37pm On Mar 05, 2017
Billyonaire:
I was born a Christian, baptized into Christianity, became an Ordained Elder and received Aaronic Priesthood and annointed with the Melchizedek Priesthood after 2 years of great service as a preacher sometimes and working the Presidency of the Church. So when I preached, people were moved by emotions and they cried and I didnt even trust the God I was teaching about.

I left the church in search for God and it took my 3yrs after preaching to realize there is No God our there, this was after I studied the highest level of science for 3 yrs and I became Atheist for nearly 13yrs. Everyone in my clique knows and still believes that I dont believe there is God, cos Christianity painted God in the colours of Male-looking Sky Daddy that supervises all.

You see, my journey was not easy and is not easy. To come to my conclusion, I had to study Biogenesis, Astrophysics, Quantum Physics, Islam, Taosm, Confucianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism. I actually spent another 2 yrs with Jehovah witness to understand why they believe that there is nothing like soul. I was patient and listening, but it didnt had up and I moved on. I kept my search until latest scientific experiments on understanding Consciousness.

Now, everything makes sense, from Fibonacci sequence, to holographic universe, the gravitational force and blackholes etc actually can be better explained based on the Unified Field Theory - The Theory of Everything.

Good luck in your search, you will come to your conclusion at your pace. But the truth same where ever you find it. And the truth is "Ye Are Gods".
After reading so many confusing book, i can understand that you are very confused. If God doesn't exist then where did the living breathe in you come from. Read Acts 17:28. If God doesn't exist why do we have the feeling of right and wrong? if God doesn't exist then what will happen to those wicked people who have killed so many innocent people. There is surely one who is omnipotent, omniscience and omnipresent, who sees all and who knows all.
The Bible says in PSA 14:1 only a fool will say there is no God.

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Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by scholes23(m): 1:37pm On Mar 05, 2017
They all went to LIMBO until Christ resurrected and ascended to heaven
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by musicwriter(m): 1:39pm On Mar 05, 2017
olumosen:
You can correct my English. It's my first time of creating a topic.

As it was written in the bible that whosoever that do not believe in Jesus Christ won't be saved and will rot in hell. My question here is what will happen to those who never knew Jesus Christ?

Very simple!

According to Buddhism, Budah is the way to God.

According to Islam, Muhammad is the way to God.

According to Christianity, Jesus is the way to God.

According to Confuciunism, Confucius is the way to God.

Plus more 7,000 other religion.

What would happen to those who don't know Jesus is exactly the same that would happen to those who don't know Muhammad, e..t.c.

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Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by olawoyin3(m): 1:42pm On Mar 05, 2017
ntyce:
I have always wanted to know answer to this question as well as our forefathers who never heard the gospel
it is simple,ALMIGHTY GOD says we send down prophets before jesus christ to direct there people and tell dem abt the oneness of GOD.so jesus was also sent down to direct peoples to the straight path nd u cn get this from bible where jesus himself said,'i did not come to do my wish but the wish of the father that sent me'.from this verse we can kno dat jesus was a messenger of ALMIGHTY GOD nd was sent to people to preach to them about the GOD.does that answer ur question or u need more from both bible and quran?
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by babaireti(m): 1:43pm On Mar 05, 2017
olumosen:
You can correct my English. It's my first time of creating a topic.

As it was written in the bible that whosoever that do not believe in Jesus Christ won't be saved and will rot in hell. My question here is what will happen to those who never knew Jesus Christ?
Those who came after Christ will still go to HELL unless they believe in ALLAH because HE is the CREATOR of Christ himself
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 1:43pm On Mar 05, 2017
victorazy:


1 Peter 4:6

1 Peter 4:6 ( NIV)
6 For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead,so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.
I guess you understand the meaning of "NOW"

"Who are now dead" means those that died or that will die after Christ

We need understanding when reading bible

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Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by shaybebaby(f): 1:45pm On Mar 05, 2017
firstking01:
Lol, you sound so empty and naive about creation...i know this is what education, societal norms and philosophy has turned alot of you into, smh...i just hate to reply post like this...before all the blablabla you are spewing what happened then?, or was it not mere humans like me and you brought the DNA sequensing or nearderthals as you called into existence?...question for you, the people in question, where did they emanate from?...was it not God that created them?....i'm sure you came into this world and met what you are agitating for...it's not today people 've been fighting to pull GOD down from heaven....all the things you said i'm sure you read em on books...this is how they will decieve and lure you to hell.
The bible is a book too. I could easily say the same back to you.

Speaking of books, there are plenty other books, the Quran, Torah.. Manuscripts like the Dead Sea scrolls, the gospel of Mary Magdalene, Gospel of Judas ( which funny enough did not make into the bible, wonder why?).
I am not against your bible, but I would advocate not limiting your reading to the bible only.
There is a big world out there full of history, don't shut yourself away in that book. Explore ideas, others have. It can only do two things, reinforce what you already believe or make you discard it. Why are you so afraid to ask questions?

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Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by shamecurls(m): 1:46pm On Mar 05, 2017
ojun50:
Thy we remain in there grave on earth

grin cheesy grin
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by MMMscam: 1:48pm On Mar 05, 2017
Radiantvessel:
you would agree with me that before Moses, everyone of us has a conscience. So those before Moses was given the law will be judged by their conscience, those during the time of moses before Christ will be judged by the law and those after Christ has died will be judged by their failure to accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Saviour.

Nice logic. But from a practical pov, it seems flawed in one aspect: there can't be judgment without law. That is, in the absence of laws you cannot legally judge someone. Human conscience cannot be equated as a law and neither can it be a competent yardstick to determine right and wrong because it varies between people. What your conscience might approve, another conscience might disapprove. So it would be total insanity for anyone to judge anyone based on conscience. I'm not into the spiritual thingy so excuse my approach, but I know God is not stupid. If man cannot judge without laws, then how can God judge without it? So I think the laws of Moses would come into play, not the human conscience.
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by hermosa7: 1:49pm On Mar 05, 2017
olumosen:
You can correct my English. It's my first time of creating a topic.

As it was written in the bible that whosoever that do not believe in Jesus Christ won't be saved and will rot in hell. My question here is what will happen to those who never knew Jesus Christ?

Why don't you ask your pastor? What's the purpose of going to church if you can't ask questions?

I feel sorry for you if you attend one of those churches where people are never given the opportunity to ask questions.
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by femi4: 1:50pm On Mar 05, 2017
Billyonaire:
I was born a Christian, baptized into Christianity, became an Ordained Elder and received Aaronic Priesthood and annointed with the Melchizedek Priesthood after 2 years of great service as a preacher sometimes and working the Presidency of the Church. So when I preached, people were moved by emotions and they cried and I didnt even trust the God I was teaching about.

I left the church in search for God and it took my 3yrs after preaching to realize there is No God our there, this was after I studied the highest level of science for 3 yrs and I became Atheist for nearly 13yrs. Everyone in my clique knows and still believes that I dont believe there is God, cos Christianity painted God in the colours of Male-looking Sky Daddy that supervises all.

You see, my journey was not easy and is not easy. To come to my conclusion, I had to study Biogenesis, Astrophysics, Quantum Physics, Islam, Taosm, Confucianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism. I actually spent another 2 yrs with Jehovah witness to understand why they believe that there is nothing like soul. I was patient and listening, but it didnt had up and I moved on. I kept my search until latest scientific experiments on understanding Consciousness.

Now, everything makes sense, from Fibonacci sequence, to holographic universe, the gravitational force and blackholes etc actually can be better explained based on the Unified Field Theory - The Theory of Everything.

Good luck in your search, you will come to your conclusion at your pace. But the truth same where ever you find it. And the truth is "Ye Are Gods".
You started with a fallacy...Nobody was born a CHRISTIAN. Not even your Father or fore Fathers.

You were never a Christian!
You were only involved in spiritual exercises/activities
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by shamecurls(m): 1:53pm On Mar 05, 2017
Billyonaire:
I was born a Christian, baptized into Christianity, became an Ordained Elder and received Aaronic Priesthood and annointed with the Melchizedek Priesthood after 2 years of great service as a preacher sometimes and working the Presidency of the Church. So when I preached, people were moved by emotions and they cried and I didnt even trust the God I was teaching about.

I left the church in search for God and it took my 3yrs after preaching to realize there is No God our there, this was after I studied the highest level of science for 3 yrs and I became Atheist for nearly 13yrs. Everyone in my clique knows and still believes that I dont believe there is God, cos Christianity painted God in the colours of Male-looking Sky Daddy that supervises all.

You see, my journey was not easy and is not easy. To come to my conclusion, I had to study Biogenesis, Astrophysics, Quantum Physics, Islam, Taosm, Confucianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism. I actually spent another 2 yrs with Jehovah witness to understand why they believe that there is nothing like soul. I was patient and listening, but it didnt had up and I moved on. I kept my search until latest scientific experiments on understanding Consciousness.

Now, everything makes sense, from Fibonacci sequence, to holographic universe, the gravitational force and blackholes etc actually can be better explained based on the Unified Field Theory - The Theory of Everything.

Good luck in your search, you will come to your conclusion at your pace. But the truth same where ever you find it. And the truth is "Ye Are Gods".


Brilliant! *Clapping*
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by coolsegun2002: 1:57pm On Mar 05, 2017
Billyonaire:


Watch this video when you have ample time. The presenter is professor of Quantum Physics, with full understanding of Spirituality. Listen to the very end. Your life and believe will change, but I hope not. Cos you need to grow at your pace.

Which video u ddnt post any link
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Obito555(m): 2:09pm On Mar 05, 2017
They may have being reincarnated one way or the other..
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Emeritusseun(m): 2:26pm On Mar 05, 2017
Billyonaire:


Please dont quote me if your standard of spellings are not qualitative. Of what use is education when you have gone down to spelling like a toddler ? Think about it.

i now understand u.......i will prefer to spell like a toddler than make grammatical blunders as u av done in ur precise write ups.....so sad!!....happy recovery!
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Emeritusseun(m): 2:30pm On Mar 05, 2017
femi4:
You started with a fallacy...Nobody was born a CHRISTIAN. Not even your Father or fore Fathers.

You were never a Christian!
You were only involved in spiritual exercises/activities

thanks for that observation....i couldnt read his write ups most times...so many blunders and errors. And his typos are endless
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by mizzyboy007: 2:34pm On Mar 05, 2017
so people still believe in the whole Christianity and Islam bullshit? Lool... sorry!!!
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Nobody: 2:36pm On Mar 05, 2017
Billyonaire:


You need no candles or incense. You need no rituals or sacrifice. What you need is what you have already, or would I say what you are ?

Make your environment very quiet. May be you could pervorate one of your rooms. Make it very very quiet that you could even hear your breath. Then close your eyes. Listen and keep tuning inside of you and watch your thoughts, monitor all the chatter, then you will realize you have been identifying yourself as your thoughts. You are not your thoughts, it is the mind that chatters. Most of the times, we receive thoughts and we act on them, sometimes we receive thoughts, but we dont act on them, that means we were able to supervise the thoughts. What is that entity that supervised your thoughts and made a decision what to do ? Then go a step further, Observe your thoughts. And observer of the thoughts operates on the level of consciousness, the Unified Field. The oberver alters the results of creation using the Wave-Collapse Function which is proven by the Double Split experiment, which explained the Einstein's Wave-Particle Paradox. The Obsever is SELF, and the Observed is the Universe. As we proceed to the deeper core of creation, we have finally arrived at the Non-Dual level where everything is Unitary. The Observer and the observed becomes the Singularity. The Source of all.

I know how hard it is to quieten the mind, sometimes you sleep off when get to a point of becoming one with the universe, that is where meditation, Yoga, Prayer, chants, calm music is used to learn to quieten the mind, after you have mastered that, then you can simply tune in whenever you want.

Let me also add that Self, in me. Is same to Self in you, and Self in others and they recognize each other as same thing. Which is why true love ignores any actions from emotions, thoughts and etc and we think the true lovers are foolish. True love forgives everything because Love comes from Self which is at the core beyond where Mind can not operate. It is a function of consciousness. It is the creative force of attraction. God is love, right ? Not really, but Love is energy of God expressing itself as love in the lower material plane of the universes.
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Nobody: 2:37pm On Mar 05, 2017
femi4:
You started with a fallacy...Nobody was born a CHRISTIAN. Not even your Father or fore Fathers.

You were never a Christian!
You were only involved in spiritual exercises/activities
If your left brain can not put together what I meant, then it is a pity. I can not help you with that. Good luck!
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Nobody: 2:39pm On Mar 05, 2017
Emeritusseun:


egbon.....wat did u take dz morning,....hw did nigeria com into d pishure!.,...abi u think say na law of moses say make dem dey kill twins?....dats was d black backwardness oo before it was corrected by Mary Slessor
but it is not white backwardness that the law of moses instructs nd permits the people to stone a new bride who isn't found a virgin to death
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by alan333(m): 2:42pm On Mar 05, 2017
cheesy kissyou've asked a technical/spiritual question and only a spiritual solution is worth a spiritual problem,therefore,the answer to your question is found in 1st Peter3vs18-19!

It's written-for Christ also hath suffered for sins,the just for the unjust,that he might bring us to GOD,being put to death in flesh but quickened by the Holy Spirit.
By which also he went to and preached unto the spirits in prison,i.e.sheol meaning grave.

Understanding shall make you outstanding!
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by firstking01(m): 2:46pm On Mar 05, 2017
shaybebaby:

The bible is a book too. I could easily say the same back to you.

Speaking of books, there are plenty other books, the Quran, Torah.. Manuscripts like the Dead Sea scrolls, the gospel of Mary Magdalene, Gospel of Judas ( which funny enough did not make into the bible, wonder why?).
I am not against your bible, but I would advocate not limiting your reading to the bible only.
There is a big world out there full of history, don't shut yourself away in that book. Explore ideas, others have. It can only do two things, reinforce what you already believe or make you discard it. Why are you so afraid to ask questions?
See this onegrin...Check my threads i guess that will give you a clue of who i am...NO atheist can ever decieve me undecided…i know GOD all to myself cool....i 've seen HIM, i'm not one of those ignorant and religious christians you come across daily, watch your side mirror well....i 've encountered HIM both physical and spiritual and that's why i'm here to floor you....i would 've been the no 1 GOD critisizer but because of my encounter with HIM i'm handicap to say a shit about my GODundecided…they 've brain washed you, what a pity....wish i could meet you off here hun...i love you to allow you perish just like that.
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Emeritusseun(m): 2:55pm On Mar 05, 2017
yemimajid:
but it is not white backwardness that the law of moses instructs nd permits the people to stone a new bride who isn't found a virgin to death

dat was put in d law to curtail spread of diseases, sexual immorality and overpopulation....,as at d time d law was gven, d israelites were in a camp.....so a cautionery law lik dat was needed!.....well, the good news is dat d law doesnt exist anymore
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by Nobody: 2:57pm On Mar 05, 2017
Emeritusseun:


dat was put in d law to curtail spread of diseases, sexual immorality and overpopulation....,as at d time d law was gven, d israelites were in a camp.....so a cautionery law lik dat was need!.....well, the good news is dat d law doesnt exist anymore
just wow!!!
Re: What Will Become Of Those Who Have Died Before The Birth Of Christ? by loffyloffy: 3:01pm On Mar 05, 2017
God is just..He will never do anything unjust, so trust him to handle their case

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