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Cleopatra4:
I guess you went through my profile that is why you have the guts to call me a child. God why you give me baby face na. Anyways you know better. If I prefer big joystick is it your business? I guess you are one of them with small joystick. Please don't spoil my morning for me ooo!

Eeehyah.. Sorry dear.. May you find a man with a pleasurable joystick

lovethchioma:
OK what Is an achievement for the men?

Marriage and the bringing forth children to take their place. Same for both sexes.

You may discover electricity. But what good is electricity without people to enjoy it?


What good is living with someone years on end without truly becoming one? The oneness of a man and woman is realized in the child who though from the man and woman, takes on a life of his/her own.

lovethchioma:
Tosin Marriage is not an achievement. I disagree.
How can you say marriage is an achievement for the ladies? oh gosh...
OK what Is an achievement for the men?

Let's take men out of this.. Whether you agree or not, our society places so much emphasis on marriage, which invariably makes it one of the greatest achievements of a lady. Remember we are talking about "Nigeria'' not Yankee

ijayebonyi:
Lol. Who then is the society?

Lol.
perhaps we're using the same word in different senses.

Here's how I interpreted you 'society'

That unnecessary collection of people who, purposely and to no just end, shame someone into doing something that which may end up not being in anybody's interest.


I welcome being enlightened.

tosyne2much:
Let's take men out of this.. Whether you agree or not, our society places so much emphasis on marriage, which invariably makes it one of the greatest achievements of a lady. Remember we are talking about "Nigeria'' not Yankee

Its not just our society. Take a look at the 'liberated' west. Their birth rate has fallen through the roof that they're touting migration as a solution to their demographic crisis. If you don't reproduce others will take your place. Even Spain recently appointed a minister of sex http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/02/27/spain-appoints-minister-for-sex-to-reverse-nations-plummeting-birth-rate.html.

Can you see where I'm going?

Imstrong:
these external pressures can cloud their judgements or reasonings and can influence a wrong decision that's the point am trying to make here at the end I suggested they shouldn't succumbed to it, am not ruling out a personal desire to marry who am I to fight nature? Without that humanity will not be sustainable, that personal drive, urge, desire will always be there else humanity is doomed I know where you are coming from we are talking about a particular age where funny enough the society wants to help out when a lady is not taking decisions on time as expected I hope you got my points?

May God bless your reasoning bro.. In this part of the world, a woman becomes a subject of mockery and pity when she refuses to get married

Cleopatra4:
Chai I like this guy.

My own pass joystick ooo.
na bliss baton.

coupled with the hands you got yourself a brand new rolls royce engine to take you anywhere in kuvuki land.


But that no mean say I believe say that one alone go satisfy you sha. I know the story.

TheLordIsGr8:
Lol.
perhaps we're using the same word in different senses.

Here's how I interpreted you 'society'

That unnecessary collection of people who, purposely and to no just end, shame someone into doing something that which may end up not being in anybody's interest.


I welcome being enlightened.

I should be seeking for that enlightenment from you,cause to me it seems you're still revolving around what I said earlier

BoosBae:
Number 6 is so true!

A lady's perception about marriage changes when she's due.
All the tall, dark and handsome talk will slowly die down in her head
What about the naira loaded talk?? She'll start saying "as long as the guy can take care of me, I'm okay, he doesn't have to be rich" Lol

The hustle for "husband" when you're due is real.

I admire your sincerity dear

tosyne2much:
I don't think the topic is based because, I know you won't dispute the fact that, even if a lady is not in a rush to get married, there would be a time when society and family pressure will begin to mount pressure on her. . My dear, that's just the society we find ourselves

i couldn't care less about a society that isn't just and fair to all talk less of unmarried women

iyam expecting a counter thread

tosyne2much:
May God bless your reasoning bro.. In this part of the world, a woman becomes a subject of mockery and pity when she refuses to get married

that's true bro, thanks a lot, keep it up with your insightful, reality based thread(s)

tosyne2much:
Eeehyah.. Sorry dear.. May you find a man with a pleasurable joystick

And I'm shouting the loudest AMEN.

pweeryambre:
...unnecessary hatred is not human nature abeg

Sadly you underestimate man's capacity for wicked deeds.

You may not be religious, but you would do well to listen to the wisdom of the ancient.

Hear the words of the 6th stanza of the Pentecost sequence (pentecost comes up 4th June this year)

If Thou take Thy grace away,
Nothing pure in man will stay;
All his good is turned to ill.

Even the prophet Jeremiah lamented

"The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is? Jer 17.9

Man is wicked. Only God can cure him of his wickedness. The Catholic faith acknowledges that, as you can see in the Pentecost sequence which we proclaim yearly on Pentecost sunday. That is why we pray

Holy Mary mother of God,
Pray for us sinners

But alas! Men keep denying the most obvious and most empirically demonstrable truth in all of history. But I digress.

pweeryambre:
its lack of acceptance and enlightenment.

Here is a quote from Malcolm Muggeridge's "The Crisis of our Time"

I’ve heard a murderous Georgian brigand in the Kremlin (Stalin), acclaimed by the intellectual elite of the world as being wiser than Solomon, more humane than Marcus Aurelius, more enlightened than Ashoka

Excerpt here: http://www.bobhyatt.typepad.com/bobblog/2010/06/malcolm-muggeridge-on-the-one-.html
pm me if you need the full speech or search for it on the internet.
Emphasis mine

So my dear, wherever you got the idea that enlightenment is the solution of all of man's problems, you need to rebuke it.

lefulefu:
iyam expecting a counter thread

I know ladies will be planning their own too

TheLordIsGr8:
Marriage and the bringing forth children to take their place. Same for both sexes.

You may discover electricity. But what good is electricity without people to enjoy it?


What good is living with someone years on end without truly becoming one? The oneness of a man and woman is realized in the child who though from the man and woman, takes on a life of his/her own.

If I should understand you well... you're saying marriage is also an achievement for both the men right? It has nothing to do with the gender ?

tosyne2much:
I believe you're only talking from your own perception but the society don't see it they way you do.. And yes, marriage is the greatest achievement of a lady in this part of the world

Mr Tosyne.. what if a lady was hardworking and very humble, became rich and made life a lot easier for her family and close friends but still decided to not marry but want to have a baby or adopt and raise them by herself, wouldnt that be considered as an achievement on some levels...
and if it's so why don't you create more topics on stuffs like these to broaden the minds of people in this part of the world... since you are aware the society in this part of the world are so closed minded when it comes to women and marriage that they would prefer bashing unmarried ladies to the point of them committing suicide or living a miserable life which is very wrong.
Please create threads on something new and not Re-inforcing the old and usual tales of desperate single ladies that we already know about.

lovethchioma:
If I should understand you well... you're saying marriage is also an achievement for both the men right? It has nothing to do with the gender ?

Yes ma.

And the bringing forth of children

tosyne2much:
I know ladies will be planning their own too

yes na..expect it anytime from now
Safiaa and co ..how market?

solasoulmusic:
i couldn't care less about a society that isn't just and fair to all talk less of unmarried women

Nothing can change it bro.. I pray you don't find yourself in this circumstance

tosyne2much:
Nothing can change it bro.. I pray you don't find yourself in this circumstance

So because of my opinion you have to call me bro ?

I don't blame you should have kept walking

mention 1 man u know way no dey any of this category

pweeryambre:
Mr Tosyne.. what if a lady was hardworking and very humble, became rich and made life a lot easier for her family and close friends but still decided to not marry but want to have a baby or adopt and raise them by herself, wouldnt that be considered as an achievement on some levels...
and if it's so why don't you create more topics on stuffs like these to broaden the minds of people in this part of the world... since you are aware the society in this part of the world are so closed minded when it comes to women and marriage that they would prefer bashing unmarried ladies to the point of them committing suicide or living a miserable life which is very wrong.
Please create threads on something new and not Re-inforcing the old and usual tales of desperate single ladies that we already know about.

I have a problem with this idea of kids as toys for adults.

Its objectification of a human being for one's own desires, yet ladies cry to high heavens that they're being objectified.

Huh

Kenkaniff:
@Go ahead son and judge them
Go ahead with your rumours and be a monger....
uneducated men for real??
posted loads of crap

forget matter
there are educated ladies who chase after stark illiterate men..sometimes na money be the coco

TheLordIsGr8:
Sadly you underestimate man's capacity for wicked deeds.

You may not be religious, but you would do well to listen to the wisdom of the ancient.

Hear the words of the 6th stanza of the Pentecost sequence (pentecost comes up 4th June this year)



Even the prophet Jeremiah lamented


Man is wicked. Only God can cure him of his wickedness. The Catholic faith acknowledges that, as you can see in the Pentecost sequence which we proclaim yearly on Pentecost sunday. That is why we pray

But alas! Men keep denying the most obvious and most empirically demonstrable truth in all of history. But I digress.




Here is a quote from Malcolm Muggeridge's "The Crisis of our Time"



So my dear, wherever you got the idea that enlightenment is the solution of all of man's problems, you need to rebuke it.

Well said, but I know what I mean by enlightenment, and I meant that in a good way... forget what the scripture says, we don't really need to go too deep to be good and free minded on some basic scenario.
"A man's heart is full of wickedness"true but a mans heart is full of love too.
I'm just saying that we need to be more accepting of people choosing to live a different life than what is expected of them by the society, so far it's for a good cause and they are not hurting anyone.

pweeryambre:
Mr Tosyne.. what if a lady was hardworking and very humble, became rich and made life a lot easier for her family and close friends but still decided to not marry but want to have a baby or adopt and raise them by herself, wouldnt that be considered as an achievement on some levels...
and if it's so why don't you create more topics on stuffs like these to broaden the minds of people in this part of the world... since you are aware the society in this part of the world are so closed minded when it comes to women and marriage that they would prefer bashing unmarried ladies to the point of them committing suicide or living a miserable life which is very wrong.
Please create threads on something new and not Re-inforcing the old and usual tales of desperate single ladies that we already know about.

I leave it up to you to come up with topics that will enlighten the close-minded society as regards women and marriage

tosyne2much:
I admire your sincerity.. When your patently are highly educated, the pressure is very minimal

Yes pressure is the main reason we just settle to avoid anymore agro

tosyne2much:
Let's take men out of this.. Whether you agree or not, our society places so much emphasis on marriage, which invariably makes it one of the greatest achievements of a lady. Remember we are talking about "Nigeria'' not Yankee

The fact that the society places emphasis on marriage does not automatically make marriage and achievement. What then can you say about unhappy marriages, failed marriages? So getting married does not automatically make you an achiever. But your purpose and the impact you've had on humanity.
You can't tell me to leave men out of it, because a lady gets married to a man and not to herself. I still ask again... if you say marriage is such an achievement for the ladies then what will you say is an achievement for the men? well, you don't have to answer the question but I really wanted to understand your stance on the this issue.


I really don't blame you because it's kind-of of true with some ladies. Once they get married they feel satisfied and fulfilled and don't bother to do anything with their lives anymore.

fotosmith01:
mention 1 man u know way no dey any of this category

You nah I know you no dey any of the categories

shinarlaura:
Exactly mum. I really don't know why we (especially Africans) sees marriage as such a big deal. I ll rather be single than to marry someone I don't like all because in the name of marriage. By the way is it by force to get married. As if marriage is a lifetime achievement

For some people na end game be that o its worth alot to some .. but not for everyone

If we go back 100 years and ask this question i can bet what majority if not all will say

TheLordIsGr8:
Yes ma.
And the bringing forth of children

alright Sir... thanks

TheLordIsGr8:
I have a problem with this idea of kids as toys for adults.

Its objectification of a human being for one's own desires, yet ladies cry to high heavens that they're being objectified.

Huh

I don't understand what you meant by "idea of kids as toys for adults"
A single lady has financial and psychological capability to raise a child and you term it as toy? then what will you say about kids that are brought up as destitutes in a union called marriage, and they lack every love and simple basic needs a child should have to grow as complete human.
please it's not toy and is not every lady that is crying for being objectified, but that one is a different point all together. and you did not answered the question.