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MadManTalking:
And how will they translate Pythagoras theorem, potassium mangagate and tetra ox o-suphate xi acid in Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa?

Go and read yoruba or any other languages bible,you will realize that all things are possible ,especially if you believe God.

musicwriter:


That's a small problem. The only reason it even appear to you as a problem is because this is new.

Education can still occur in our various native languages even in present Nigeria. The curriculum may remain the same nationwide, but the actual knowledge acquisition would happen in our various native languages. So, if you're Igbo, you'll learn and write your exams in Igbo. If you're Yoruba, you learn and write your exams in Yoruba. E.T.C.

In fact, Jehovah's witnesses are already doing so, and I snapped the below pictures from their stand sometime as as a proof. They publish their watchtower and awake magazines in various languages, but all of them are saying exactly the same thing, while the knowledge acquisition itself happen in the languages of the readers. Education acquired in mother's tongue is the true meaning of education.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5390733_jw_jpeg9c7ecde3f656ee3377fc53aff4e9fd70

You don't get my actual point. Take for example, a class made up of Yoruba, Igbo, Ijaw , Urhobo and Hausa students is to be taken a Mathematics class by a teacher that speaks, say, the Igbo language, how's he expected to impart any meaningful knowledge to the students other than the ones of Igbo ethnicity? Or would you advocate the division of classrooms along tribal lines?

PaztorAYO:
You don't get my actual point. Take for example, a class made up of Yoruba, Igbo, Ijaw , Urhobo and Hausa students is to be taken a Mathematics class by a teacher that speaks, say, the Igbo language, how's he expected to impart any meaningful knowledge to the students other than the ones of Igbo ethnicity? Or would you advocate the division of classrooms along tribal lines?

If slavery didn't happen, if colonialism didn't happen that would be the way we've been studying. Yes, it would mean some sort of restructuring. Malaysians has done it, Indonesians has done it, Vietnamese has done it. If we cannot do what other civilizations has done to regain their cultures, then I'll consider us sub-human.

Do you want to remain a British creation or do you want to be free for once?

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Nonsense. Just when education is going global. How will those kids cope when they get to the University? They are finding it hard enough already. Or will they teach medicine, pharmacy, engineering, economics and computer science using local languages in the University as well? Do Nigerian policy makers actually think? Please does anyone know of a good school for my kids in Benin Republic?

musicwriter:


If slavery didn't happen, if colonialism didn't happen that would be the way we've been studying. Yes, it would mean some sort of restructuring. Malaysians has done it, Indonesians has done it, Vietnamese has done it. If we cannot do what other civilizations has done to regain their cultures, then I'll consider us sub-human.

Do you want to remain a British creation or do you want to be free for once?

Hehehe...... I'm a creation of no one, my brother. It is not always possible to completely reverse the effects of Imperialism, especially in places where its influence was incredibly strong. We can only make the best out of the current order of things globally. That is the way of the world. Just like no man is an island, nor is any culture or civilization. We all affect one another, because all cultures coexist on the same planet. You assimilate that which is useful and discard the injurious.The Romans conquered the Greeks, but were heavily influenced by Greek culture, since the Roman Empire was a cultural vacuum. The same Romans who conquered the Jews were in turn conquered by the Jews who gave them Christianity. So, who is the other's creation in each one of these instances? Are we to advocate that the Western world abandon Judeo-Christianity so as not to be regarded as the creatiom of the Jew? I'm no advocate of any form of cultural purity or conservatism. There is no point in it. All that matters is progress. The current system WORKS WELL. All that's needed is improvement, nothing more. It'll take more resources, time and effort to implement the policy you're supporting than it would to improve on the current system of education, in addition to the fact that there's no guarantee of greater success and efficiency.

So, are you saying you support the division of classrooms along TRIBAL LINES just so that students can be taught in their native languages? What consequences do you think that holds for society?

How do they write Differentiation and Integration in your Local Language..?

This is a night terror. Somebody should wake me up!

Cocoafera:
How do they write Differentiation and Integration in your Local Language..?

Difrensesuni, Integresunu.

absoluteSuccess:
A move in the right direction, if the 'moves' shall ever converts to one 'giant stride'..

OK

PaztorAYO:
Hehehe...... I'm a creation of no one, my brother. It is not always possible to completely reverse the effects of Imperialism, especially in places where its influence was incredibly strong. We can only make the best out of the current order of things globally. That is the way of the world. Just like no man is an island, nor is any culture or civilization. We all affect one another, because all cultures coexist on the same planet. You assimilate that which is useful and discard the injurious.The Romans conquered the Greeks, but were heavily influenced by Greek culture, since the Roman Empire was a cultural vacuum. The same Romans who conquered the Jews were in turn conquered by the Jews who gave them Christianity. So, who is the other's creation in each one of these instances? Are we to advocate that the Western world abandon Judeo-Christianity so as not to be regarded as the creatiom of the Jew? I'm no advocate of any form of cultural purity or conservatism. There is no point in it. All that matters is progress. The current system WORKS WELL. All that's needed is improvement, nothing more. It'll take more resources, time and effort to implement the policy you're supporting than it would to improve on the current system of education, in addition to the fact that there's no guarantee of greater success and efficiency.

So, are you saying you support the division of classrooms along TRIBAL LINES just so that students can be taught in their native languages? What consequences do you think that holds for society?

So, what had been the impact of African cultures on Europe? Since cultures impact other cultures; how is African cultures impacting Europe?

We want to take the bull by the horn, if you're not ready, stay on the sidelines and watch how it would unfold. Interestingly, the Jews you quoted did say in the Bible that a Noah was beging people to be saved from a flood, but they refused.

PapiSmith:
Imagine if your maths teacher is igbo. How will he pronounce 43 in yoruba?

Eta lé Logoji. Na mass failure be that

IRI ANO NA ATO

If Nigeria after 100 years of official amalgamation of Southern and Northern protectorate with English as her official language cannot set herself on the path to greatness then, no amount of localized educational system can help us.


The governor of my state speak our local language very well yet, will rather care for himself and his family with the state fund at the expense of the people of the state.


Let us develop the land first, good road, access to good health care, constant electricity supply, qualitative education, effective policing without assault on the citizenry, Free and fair election, government accountability, effective budget implementation etc then we can be talking of language of teaching in our local schools but for now, it's still a secondary matter.

They should modify our primary and secondary curricular so that our pupils/students can be taught how to read and write effectively in our local languages first.

deji15:
This will be the catalyst for Nigeria development. Please hurry up, as this is long overdue

I laugh at you guys supporting this projected act of lunacy. A country that has not been able to teach it local languages in schools is thinking about teaching science, mathematics and other subjects in its local language.
How I wish when we say our leaders are jumping the gun literally, they actually jump loaded guns in reality and get shot on the ass.

musicwriter:


So, what had been the impact of African cultures on Europe? Since cultures impact other cultures; how is African cultures impacting Europe?

We want to take the bull by the horn, if you're not ready, stay on the sidelines and watch how it would unfold. Interestingly, the Jews you quoted did say in the Bible that a Noah was beging people to be saved from a flood, but they refused.

Lol...... You shouldn't sound like that. It isn't the case that a culture must always influence another when it comes into contact with it. The influence might be mutual, or one-sided, and as long as it isn't sinister, there is no reason to reject it. How would it be if Nigeria were to discard Western Culture wholesale? Any culture at all is acceptable, and should be acceptable, as long as it doesn't impede development. There is no reason at all to be conservative. Your major concern seems to be the possibility of our languages going extinct. Well, many languages and cultures have died throughout history and Armageddon didn't take place. Although, I recognize that it is important for a people to have a culture and an identity, but one shouldn't be so engrrossed in cherishing such attachments that he defines himself solely by them and makes them the hallmark of his existence. There certainly are more important things than those, especially in our Nigeria which is on the precipice of collapse, and THEY COME FIRST. It's these same cultures and languages that are the major cause of division between us which has made our country into the shiithole it is. A population is inherently divided and lacking in unity of purpose, to go by Spenglerian terminology. A population obeys the particular will rather than the general will, while a people is united, obeying the general will. Nigeria is what it is because it is made up of a population NOT a people. Only a united people with common purpose obeying a general will can achieve great things.

Dividing students into classrooms along TRIBAL LINES just so that they can be taught in their native languages would be catastrophic for our country.

zionmade1:

Because we have come to identify to English language and because most southerners dream of sending their kids overseas to further their education, because the foundation of any kid matters.
Ask urself Why do they want to do it?
Is it dat d level of education in d south is not satisfactory or is because we need to stoop so low in order to draw d northerners who dont want to be educated. A system needs to be changed wen it doesnt work and as long as i know in d south d educational system is improving with speed.

Yeah, with magic centres.

PaztorAYO:
Lol...... You shouldn't sound like that. It isn't the case that a culture must always influence another when it comes into contact with it. The influence might be mutual, or one-sided, and as long as it isn't sinister, there is no reason to reject it. How would it be if Nigeria were to discard Western Culture wholesale? Any culture at all is acceptable, and should be acceptable, as long as it doesn't impede development. There is no reason at all to be conservative. Your major concern seems to be the possibility of our languages going extinct. Well, many languages and cultures have died throughout history and Armageddon didn't take place. Although, I recognize that it is important for a people to have a culture and an identity, but one shouldn't be so engrrossed in cherishing such attachments that he defines himself solely by them and makes them the hallmark of his existence. There certainly are more important things than those, especially in our Nigeria which is on the precipice of collapse, and THEY COME FIRST. It's these same cultures and languages that are the major cause of division between us which has made our country into the shiithole it is. A population is inherently divided and lacking in unity of purpose, to go by Spenglerian terminology. A population obeys the particular will rather than the general will, while a people is united, obeying the general will. Nigeria is what it is because it is made up of a population NOT a people. Only a united people with common purpose obeying a general will can achieve great things.

Dividing students into classrooms along TRIBAL LINES just so that they can be taught in their native languages would be catastrophic for our country.

True talk! You couldn't have said it better. But I will have to disagree with some aspects of the bolded. The cause of our division is not the languages but they are deeply rooted and we are the only solution to our problems.

What local language will be used in Warri?

Sadly our languages are limited to the scope of not too complex concepts, this is largely ineffective for today's ideas..

Josmila:


I forbid you from bringing my parents into this discuss, don't stupid please. This is simply a discuss between you and I, if you can't be civil while at it, we can end it now please. Have I made myself clear enough son?

but i never insulted ur parents na

PapiSmith:
Imagine if your maths teacher is igbo. How will he pronounce 43 in yoruba?

Eta lé Logoji. Na mass failure be that

43 in IGBO LANGUAGE; IRI-ANO NA ATO.

zionmade1:
All in a bid to bring our education down to d level of northerners who rather remain illiterates than learn English. Which school in d South will accept dat Rubbish wen children at d age of 3 can flow fluently in English. Its a disgrace our educational system would have to descend so low all because we are in d same country will northerners who have vowed to remain illiterates. Other countries are looking for ways to further develop the standards of their educational system we are going back to square one. RUBBISH

You mean teaching you using your own language means going BACKWARDS.

I guess CHINA and JAPAN are all BACKWARDS.

dats ws my dream..... Nice one...... proudly educationist

PaztorAYO:
Lol...... You shouldn't sound like that. It isn't the case that a culture must always influence another when it comes into contact with it. The influence might be mutual, or one-sided, and as long as it isn't sinister, there is no reason to reject it. How would it be if Nigeria were to discard Western Culture wholesale? Any culture at all is acceptable, and should be acceptable, as long as it doesn't impede development. There is no reason at all to be conservative. Your major concern seems to be the possibility of our languages going extinct. Well, many languages and cultures have died throughout history and Armageddon didn't take place. Although, I recognize that it is important for a people to have a culture and an identity, but one shouldn't be so engrrossed in cherishing such attachments that he defines himself solely by them and makes them the hallmark of his existence. There certainly are more important things than those, especially in our Nigeria which is on the precipice of collapse, and THEY COME FIRST. It's these same cultures and languages that are the major cause of division between us which has made our country into the shiithole it is. A population is inherently divided and lacking in unity of purpose, to go by Spenglerian terminology. A population obeys the particular will rather than the general will, while a people is united, obeying the general will. Nigeria is what it is because it is made up of a population NOT a people. Only a united people with common purpose obeying a general will can achieve great things.

Dividing students into classrooms along TRIBAL LINES just so that they can be taught in their native languages would be catastrophic for our country.

Well, what I see is you've perpetually accepted your inferior status and have no hope of freeing yourself. Fortunately, you're not in any way near the policy makers who've thought out this noble initiative.

Again, other colonized countries; Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, long time ago, had done what what the FG is proposing and the benefits to put it shortly is DEVELOPMENT. Its a pity you don't understand how this would translate to development and this would be my last attempt to explain things to you.

Some history of English...................

Britain (your masters) were also once colonized around 450 AD -1000 AD by Germans, Spanish, French, Rome. During their occupation they were forced to speak the language of foreigners- which is how they learnt to force you speak English during occupation and enslavement of Africa.

The origin of English language. Everybody should see these videos, it's under 20 minutes, all.

The evolution of English language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIzFz9T5rhI
The origin of English language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEaSxhcns7Y
The history of English language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FujyP_YHW-Q

Assuming you've seen the above videos, below is what happened later.

After Britain regained their independence they continued to be poor, because they couldn't develop speaking the language imposed on them by foreigners. Of course, they couldn't figure out (like you) that the language imposed on them by foreigners was a burden and not a blessing. Finally, in 1362 they took the first step and made English their official language. Still, they remained poor, because again they couldn't figure out they needed to begin using English in school as the language of science. They were still indoctrinated like us today to realize they needed to begin understanding nature (science) in their new official English language.

Later in the early 1600's, the type of argument we're having on this thread arose in Britain. Ironically, educated people in Britain (like you) resisted the initiative, making exactly the same argument you have. They said English was scanty, lacking in vocabularies, primitive, and wasn't a global language. They were saying exactly the same thing you're saying here!!. To cut it short, they eventually did the right thing by using their English language for science. That's why over 90% of our science classes are Greek, Latin, French, e.t.c. It wasn't long after this was done that Britain became a hub for scientific knowledge in Europe. In fact, that policy shift created what's is called the "scientific revolution" which began in Britain. That was how Britain (an under-dog European nation) rose to build better compass, ships, gun, gun powder, steam engine, e.t.c and was able to over-take the whole of Europe and the rest of the world at a phenomenal speed. If only you knew the benefit of what the FG is proposing, you'll be partying today like me.

Stop accepting an inferior status imposed on you by foreigners. The fact that our ancestors accepted this inferior status adopting the language of foreigners over ours doesn't mean you should keep worshiping the language of foreigners today. Open your eyes and understand we had a life before we met white people. Open your eyes and be proud of using your language as the language of science, like the Japanese, Koreans, Russian, Germans, Chinese, Vietnamese.

It's not a surprise, Ms. Harriet Tubman said "I freed a thousand slaves, I could have freed many thousands more, if only they knew they were slave".

Muzanga:
Hian. . E go make sense.... igbo example: 12 kagbuo 6 , oputara gini? N-y choputa x.... ewepu 5 nime 10 oputara gini?

i can only imagine the cooperation from students and pupils.education will start making sense.

actually we nigerians are very intelligent.imagine learning sciences with another man's language.if we start teaching sciences in local languages,then many will realise that iron 2 and iron 3 oxides are nothing but red clay.then many will realise that silicon oxide is just sand.this will help the black man to emancipate himself from mental slavery.but if the government threw away this advice you will know that the british have a hand in it. abuja house in london things.

PapaBrowne:
The senselessness of this administration is beyond normal.
So you teach a child living in Ondo mathematics in Yoruba language and he graduates and can't even get a job in Benin City that is barely 100km away because he can't communicate!!

Even China and Japan as advanced as they are have begun to teach in English in thier universities. In fact the demand for English teachers in these countries is so large that they pay them and provide housing just to make them stay.

We need the sack the old folks sitting in Abuja!

umum Indians who can't speak English comes to ur country and not only get a job also run a company, dey there the talk hsart

zionmade1:
All in a bid to bring our education down to d level of northerners who rather remain illiterates than learn English. Which school in d South will accept dat Rubbish wen children at d age of 3 can flow fluently in English. Its a disgrace our educational system would have to descend so low all because we are in d same country will northerners who have vowed to remain illiterates. Other countries are looking for ways to further develop the standards of their educational system we are going back to square one. RUBBISH

With all the English, the okada that you rode on this morning can't be made in Nigeria. Mind you, it is not that they won't learn English Language but the children will be exposed to ideas in their native language. They will not be like those current Lagos/Abuja children who can't say 'I want to eat' in their mother tongue!

PapaBrowne:
The senselessness of this administration is beyond normal.
So you teach a child living in Ondo mathematics in Yoruba language and he graduates and can't even get a job in Benin City that is barely 100km away because he can't communicate!!

Even China and Japan as advanced as they are have begun to teach in English in thier universities. In fact the demand for English teachers in these countries is so large that they pay them and provide housing just to make them stay.

We need the sack the old folks sitting in Abuja!

Your line of reasoning is faulty. Your bias against this administration is probably affecting you. So the Julius Berger engineers doing your roads was taught maths in primary school in English Or the Chinese guys repairing our refineries were taught in English.

Kwantinue!

nextprince:
Good. But gonna be very difficult. Just imagine stating Newton's laws of motion, Boyles' or Charles gas laws in hausa, yoruba etc or solving quadratic equation, projectile etc in those languages. How do you even explain exponents, logarithm and trigonometric functions like sine, cosine and tangents of angles? lol.

dumbest post ever...

you understood it whitemans language but wont understand in ur fathers language