kernel505:



I should be asking you the school that graduated you. In the eventual, Biafra secedes, There will be lots of Job lost, high level of unemployment considering the fact that they own the commerce of Nigeria.

What happened to property development during Nigeria/Biafra war in the West, lots of properties where developed because of ceased fund of the Igbos and high oil price, today poverty has ravaged them to brown roofs.

Igbos are the highest property developers in Nigeria, and rent high cost property too.
The IGR of your states will drop.

Without the help of government, we've developed East wonderfully... The least rent for a flat is 250k ask if you want, why Ibadan is 100k.

kingzizzy:


Im not a lawyer, but it is still within the rights of an independent Biafran nation to take Nigeria to for 'ownership rights' of its citizens.

As most will recall, Cameroon took Nigeria to court over ownership of the Oil rich Bakassi peninsular and won.

Lets look at a worst case scenario. Lets just assume that Biafra gets independence and Nigeria decided to have no diplomatic relation with Biafra and moves to expel all Biafrans and sieze their assets and properties. The Biafran Government is most likely to take the Nigerian Government to court over illegal aquisition of assets.

It will be quite interesting to know what reasons Nigeria will have for siezing lawfully aqcuired assets of other people.


However, the implications for Nigeria and the Nigerian Government is most likely to be disasterous.

1) No international investor will ever step foot in Nigeria ever again because it will be noteworthy international news that the Nigerian Government can sieze the assets of foreigners, without compensation, just for being foreigners

2)The existing international investors are most likely to liquidate their investments and leave. Investors dont like uncertainty. When the current investors realise that they are in a country where their investments can be siezed based on citizenship, none of them will feel safe about their investments

3) The siezing of people assets and their expulsion is most likely to erode the image of Nigeria in the international community while attracting a lot of sympathy for Biafra.

4) It is quite possible that the UN might impose sanctions on Nigeria, especially if the international court rules against Nigeria

Dumaknesset:
When I say Igbos don't think things through, you would not believe me, so you have not thought about it, yet you want secession.

I am a lawyer and here is a legal dimension.

All the biafrans properties will become that of Lagos state government, it will be the largest real estate deal in the world since igbos own 90 percent of real estate in Lagos state and Afonjas [/b]only own 0.2 percent of real estate in the east.

Dumaknesset:


With due respect you have not been paying attention, even Nigerians do not own lands in Nigeria, every body holds it in trust for the government. Once Biafra pull a skedaddle the landlord take over it's properties. No one is seizing ish. It is the law and it upon the basis that all land purchasers in Nigeria purchase land, that is why the deed of assignment always refer to the Land use Act as binding on the transaction. Hope you get it now.

Nazeren:
Yes, you're a lawyer but is this how silly you've become?

kingzizzy:


It is you that is not paying attention. Is what you are saying that when a person is not a citizen of , or renounces their citizenship of Nigeria, they are liable to loose their pproperties in Nigeria for this? If Dangote renounces his Nigeria citizenship and adopts Cameroonian citizenship, the Nigerian Government is entitled to sieze his houses and businesses for this?

Dumaknesset:


Seem you are impervious to reasoning. Okay wiseacre have it your way.

greenmonk:


Higher rent does not translate to a better economy but rather a distorted economy prone to inflation.

kingzizzy:


You said you are a Lawyer, Im asking a simple question. If Dangote rennounces his Nigerian citizenship and adopts that of another country such as Cameroon or Niger Republic and moves there. Is the Nigerian Government entitled to sieze Dangotes houses and businesses because he did this?

Dumaknesset:


You will start hurling insult when you are confronted with your tribe buffoonery. If you indeed know the meaning of silly, you will appreciate the silly ones are the Biafrans. Look up the word silly.

Dumaknesset:


For real, you want to know my Alma mater! I am particularly not curious about yours. Check out your syntax, concord, et al. By the way, keep living in denial.

Highest real estate developers, thank you for developing Lagos, but don't let the door hit your bum bum on your way outta of Nigeria.

Nazeren:
I repeat, you're a dunce. Unless you can prove otherwise, stop disgusting everybody else with your daft report.

kernel505:



Did I forget to tell you that Human resources is the highest resources anywhere in the world. We're very enterprising and innovative.

Dumaknesset:


See yah life in the outside, so Nigerian banks are regulated by laws from the moon. They are regulated by BOfia, Cbn act, cama etc, all Nigerian laws and all the banks headquarters are in South west remember, the banks are also tenants like anybody as corporate organizations.You still reason like a Nigerian, that is where your flawed arguments emanate from. You have forgotten you are now biafrans, your monies will also be forfeited by a single order from cbn, that all monies belonging igbos be forfeited forthwith to the government of Nigeria, remember you will now be biafrans not Nigerians, and the banks ' customers are Nigerians which you guys are not.
To the banks you don't exist, and you are no longer Nigerians, so you monies are also deemed abandoned and the banks get to remit to the Cbn or as the government will decide.

Awon guys Yi, oni arojinle.
Ode people!

Your monies also will be gone poof!

Nazeren:
I repeat, you're a dunce. Unless you can prove otherwise, stop disgusting everybody else with your daft report.

Dumaknesset:


You are basing your argument on a wrong premise, what ever conclusion reached will be invalid. Here is why, Dangote does not owe Dangote group of companies,the owners of the companies are the shareholders, which Dangote is one of them.

In Nigeria a minimum of two persons must be shareholders, but once the company goes public like Dangote group of companies that is quoted on stock exchange the shareholding expands.

Dangote group of companies is a person in law, whether Dangote renounces Nigeria or not, the company lives on except such company is wind up.

So it is immaterial whether Dangote renounces or not.

Now assuming but not conceding that Dangote is a sole proprietor and renounces Nigerian citizenship, the law is clear on it, he will need to change ownership of his properties to meet the legal requirements for a foreigners to own properties in Nigeria. Where he fails in some material particulars the property might be forfeited.

Do you know that some of the properties of the Federal government abandoned in Lagos state were taken over by Lagos government under the doctrine of bona vacantia, so who is Dangote, if his property suffers legal deficiencies it will be deemed abandoned and state will take over.

But your question is hypothetical and whatever answer is proffered will be hypothetical.

The case of Baifra is different, it is a group of people Secceding and for security reasons, such person will never be allowed to continue to own property in mother state, except they go through the screening of the mother state, which brings us back to the starting point of the properties deemed been abandoned and taking over by the government apart from the fact that in the mother state I. e. Nigeria only the government owns land others are tenant.

toofit007:
ori e daru, awon wo Lo'n pe ni ode? were buruku.

dyydxx:


Excellent submission. Just wanted to add one more thing especially as the biafra ultranationalist you quoted referenced the Cameroon takeover of the Oil rich Bakassi Peninsular as a model for Biafra taking its land blah blah blah.

It's another deluded pipe dream devoid of any fact or reason. As always, these folks are the most ignorant and repulsive of the bunch they just go on inventing there own alternative facts and realities. The portion of the Bakassi Penisular secede to Cameroon never belong to Nigeria to begin with. The colonial powers shared it between themselves and during the Anglo_German War of the early 1900s the Land in that area fell to Germany who later sold it to the french and the french gave it to Cameroon. And that's the back story of that but these ipob youths are too lazy to read or research history and they keep making assumptions and presumptions that will lead no where.

Dumaknesset:


You are not a bright fellow, the bulb upstairs is blown off, how can dunce mean the same thing as silly. How can a report be daft, who gave a report. I see you are emotional mess, your cogitation is in shaky and uncordinated spasm. You will be foaming in the mouth already mealy mouth numbskull. You will now be irrational, cranky, shifty and angry. Men? truth hurts fools, it can drive them over the bend. I encountered a rare fool today, the hue of it is dim colour certainly because the light up there is gone.

Nazeren:
Enough of this hideous caterwauling!!! Just because I told you to tender proof you're not daft you want to give yourself apoplexy??Guy, your stroke is not on me. Next idiot, pls.

Dumaknesset:


I have nothing to prove to you nitwit, if you cant stand the heat, get eff outta of the kitchen. I will continue to school you and your ilks on your foolery, till your brain is recalibrated to basic sensibility.

Thanks for showing me the truth disgust you, it is typical of fools.

if I bare the rough edges of my tongue, i might push you to suicidal mode, so beat it and go clean something of mine.

Nazeren:
Diary of a dejected minor. Eermm...let's see again, rantings of a displaced fool. Truth is, you're blabbing. Nobody truly understands what you're saying.

Take a second, ask yourself why you're still on this thread trying to prove point. Think about it. You're a jobless he-goat.

Kindly, before you think of quoting me again, ensure you make sense.

Dumaknesset:


I have touched a raw spot particularly on the corn for brain sensitive part. The pain will sweep through your heart, a cardiac arrest will follow and your eyes will turn dark grey, you will foam in the mouth and the autopsy will reveal it is a rare disease called bitterness.

Nazeren:
Diary of a dejected minor. Eermm...let's see again, rantings of a displaced fool. Truth is, you're blabbing. Nobody truly understands what you're saying except you. "A fool truly believes in his own stupidity". Smh. Take a second, ask yourself why you're still on this thread trying to prove point. Think about it. You're a jobless he-goat.

Kindly, before you think of quoting me again, ensure you make sense.

Nazeren:
Why are you so effing predictable?! I knew you'll be the next idiot. Gosh, you're truly daft. Who brought you up like this?

Dumaknesset:


Don't fall apart on me yet. You can't pull a skedaddle on me. You are gonna feed on shit tonight. keep it coming.

Dumaknesset:


How typical when you cannot confront facts, cold bare one, you have resulted to eloquence of dogs.

You mum did a bad one on you, you have turned out like a ghoul on tramadol.

Mujtahida:

When I say trust me it is because I am on very solid ground. I know what I am writing about. I am not being frivolous but it doesn't matter If you do or not trust but here are some facts:I know that there was an abandoned property Commission headed by David Mark then to determine the issues relating to properties abandoned by Igbos during the war. Again I know of Ojukwu's case which In fact I cited last week when an ipob youth was erroneously claiming Yorubas confiscated Ojukwu's father's property. The case is Military Governor of Lagos State v Ojukwu NWLR 1986 pt 18. Decided by the Supreme Court of Nigeria granting Ojukwu ownership of his father's property.

In addition I do know that whenever there's a change of law, litigation follows as was the case following the enactment of the Land Use Act which altered drastically the nature of the legal status of real property in Nigeria. So if the citizenship laws change, I can safely presume that lots of litigation will follow because not many will want to let go of the fruit of their labour without a fight. Law after all is based on judicial precedent.

Finally remember that Nigeria was under the heel of the military jackboot before and immediately after the War and this factor muzzled dissent. People were afraid, very afraid. Today we are a democracy (however imperfect) so even if the laws are changed it would still be challenged. Did you hear of any secessionist outcry, even pim, during the long military era? When did Nigeria return to Democracy? 1999. When was Massob formed? 1999. Coincidence? I don't think so. Would Kanu be alive today if he had dared as much as whisper a secessionist word during the military era? No, he'd be wasted by bullets into a disgusting wet mash without even any form of trial. So always remember that times have changed.

Again I submit things are not in black and white. There are shades and angles to these issues. Cheers.

Nazeren:
You will feed your father first, then your mother (but ofcourse with the possible exception of your siblings. Someone has to stay put for the burials)... their bloody remains, left for you to feed on. It's a pauper's grave for you, dear. Smh. It's destiny.

I know you'll begin to punch your keypad like a deranged animal when you read this but take it easy, oga, you cannot blame yourself for fate.

That said, I reiterate, me and you cannot relate. I won't allow myself such grave, tactless error again. Not only do you sound like you have a dreaded disease, your IQ is unfortunately too low for me to accommodate.

Nazeren:
Still blabbing like a moronn? Wawuu.. I can't even pretend that I understand you.