gohome:



Yet again no answers. Are you scared of a debate ?

There's nothing in the vague first paragraph of your penultimate post for me to answer because I could not discern if you were talking about the right of citizens or citizenship right.
I can only guess. I don't know for sure what you mean.

I am not for or against biafra so my arguments are not tinged with sentiments. If Biafra becomes a reality, fine. If it does not, fine. I just want to put down certain viewpoints. Shikena.

The arguments from your side as I understand it is that once Biafra is declared, war will ensue and Biafrans will lose their status as citizens and as a consequence lose their property. And I opined and still opine that nothing is fixed. It's not black and white.

RE : DOES SECESSION OF A COUNTRY MAKE AN INDIVIDUAL LOSE HIS PERSONAL PROPERTY? That's the topic once again. For you secession equals war. But I have a different opinion: secession does not necessarily mean war. Your opinions are ruled by just one thought: war, war, war. But I look at it broadly to say there might or might be no war. South Sudan was had without a war, was it? What of Czechslovakia, montenegro and Serbia, India/Pakistan? is it only through wars that nations secede? Though I readily concede that most secessions have been trailed by war but history proves that other nations have parted ways peacefully and at this point whatever is said now are just postulations. There might or might be no war in the event of the secession of Biafra. And whether war ensues or not there will be litigation in our courts up to the supreme Court on the status of citizens and their property rights. (I have cited Ojukwu case as a precedent and buttressed the fact that we are in a democratic setting not the military that ruled after the war) The fact that Nigeria has never lost a war is besides the point. I know Nigerian military history.

emmadejust:
Hello nairalanders.

There is an arguement between my guy on, if a particular part in a country should decide or agree to succeed out from their original country.
That all individual property owned by people of other separatist will be lost to citizens of the other state/country.

My question is, does succession make legal property owned by individual lost because he/she is no more part of the other separatist country ?

Your detail analysis please

@ lalasticala

jpphilips:

modik:



....Premised on this assertion, why wont the frowning parties to any peaceful bilateral agreement for cessation, as a matter of remedy, frown at injustices and suppression meted out on Igbos in the present Nigeria setting ?

1 All eastern importers must come to clear goods from Apapa port while Port Harcourt port is concessioned to an individual northerner?
Why are Ibo importers not ordering their goods through PH port if it's cost effective or they can find ships willing to berth there.

2. Nigeria would finance a coastal railway project with common wealth from federation account while Eastern rail route would be financed through a concession and the users of that route pays via tolling after contributing to coastal line financed with common wealth
You should at least be happy that the SS you claim to love so much is hosting most of this important project, are they no longer your brother?

3. Third mainland bridge and every other major bridges in Nigeria is financed from federation account whereas 2nd Niger bridge is concessioned.? You all clapped for your Hero for this arrangement and was about to give him 4 more years, it suddenly became a big issue 'cos he lost?

4. Every 2 kms along the eastern highway is marked with roadblocks by Nigerian forces who impede smooth movement of goods and services vide stop and search in a non war situation while western and other major routes are free from such? You know everywhere is free in all Nigerian routes from your viewing from your enclave? It's a Nigerian problem to solved by lawgivers among which you have reps, talk to them

5. No single representative from eastern block in the security council of Nigeria and that sounds right? List he names of members with link


6. I can go on and on... bring it on and tell us other people who have it all at all times


Non of those ready to frown at happy cessation is frowning at all these now??

haba!

....Premised on this assertion, why wont the frowning parties to any peaceful bilateral agreement for cessation, as a matter of remedy, frown at injustices and suppression meted out on Igbos in the present Nigeria setting ?

1 All eastern importers must come to clear goods from Apapa port while Port Harcourt port is concessioned to an individual northerner?

2. Nigeria would finance a coastal railway project with common wealth from federation account while Eastern rail route would be financed through a concession and the users of that route pays via tolling after contributing to coastal line financed with common wealth

3. Third mainland bridge and every other major bridges in Nigeria is financed from federation account whereas 2nd Niger bridge is concessioned.?

4. Every 2 kms along the eastern highway is marked with roadblocks by Nigerian forces who impede smooth movement of goods and services vide stop and search in a non war situation while western and other major routes are free from such?

5. No single representative from eastern block in the security council of Nigeria and that sounds right?

6. I can go on and on...

Non of those ready to frown at happy cessation is frowning at all these now??

haba!

modik:
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From the tone of your comments in red, no one is in doubt of your tribal proclivity!.

Based on that fact, any effort in making you see the other side of the coin would yield no dividend, since your rigid prejudice, in embracing truth and reality of injustice meted out to Biafrans, is monumental.

So, I chose not to expound on the already established facts which speak for themselves.

laudate:

Which facts speak for themselves? The guy has made some valid points, which he highlighted in red. The ball is now in your court to provide the facts, that you claim 'speak for themselves,' in order to refute his points.

If Port-Harcourt seaports have been concessioned to a single person, then your elected reps from the SE have a duty to debate this issue, bring it to the notice of the highest authorities and pass bills to revoke it, if possible. Your SS brother Rotimi Amaechi is now the Fed. Minister of Transport, and all seaports fall within his portfolio. What is he doing to correct this anomaly?

Ovamboland:


I wonder what they are about, can every part of Nigeria have the privileged of a capital city? Now every hamlet wants US visa office located in their locality. They say we cannot empathize with their situation, have they considered the folks up north who wish for but can never have their own seaport? Why are they not crying?
Several countries in Africa that are doing well such as Botswana, Zambia, Uganda, Rwanda have no access to seaport and have to pay duties to other countries. Yet someone who is a citizen in a country with ports claims he is not doing well because the port is located in another region.

Should the man in Jos, Maiduguri, Gombe, Nguru commit suicide because the ports are too far away in Lagos?

emmadejust:


It should be spread accordingly to any area which own waterline. Not just one concentration.

SSPX:
Sometimes i wonder why the black my is so devilish in thought so because i owns a property outside biafra so i should forever enslave my generation?
Come to think of won't the nation alowe to build seaport believe me lagos will lose it test biafra will be the case of southkorea and northkorea
to hell with the properties ndi ojor

GrandGarcon:
It is very easy to solve this problem, simply put it in control of reputable banks, as in something like mortgage, the banks will represent you, and collect their share, if any fool wants to take it then they should deal with the bank, if they do anything funny, remember they have branches in Biafra, so the Biafran government will fine them or simply nationalize the bank. It is very easy.

jpphilips:


You don't need anyone to tell you, go to PH, from Lagos Bus stop to Tourist Beach, every landlord there is either Okirika or Kalabari, in 1967, they were all igbos. Who knows, the Yorubas will be the biggest beneficiaries of this current agitation, I envy them really!!
Every 50yrs, the igbo man will commit political suicide and blame others for his woes!!
Ordinary Nnamdi kanu who is still living in his father's house is now the Trumpet to decide the fate of igbos with properties littered everywhere, Nnamdi kanu whose village does not produce palm oil will decide the fate of Niger delta crude oil, just imagine the insult and disgrace that lvnatic is bringing upon igbos.

Dumaknesset:


See yah life in the outside, so Nigerian banks are regulated by laws from the moon. They are regulated by BOfia, Cbn act, cama etc, all Nigerian laws and all the banks headquarters are in South west remember, the banks are also tenants like anybody as corporate organizations.You still reason like a Nigerian, that is where your flawed arguments emanate from. You have forgotten you are now biafrans, your monies will also be forfeited by a single order from cbn, that all monies belonging igbos be forfeited forthwith to the government of Nigeria, remember you will now be biafrans not Nigerians, and the banks ' customers are Nigerians which you guys are not.
To the banks you don't exist, and you are no longer Nigerians, so you monies are also deemed abandoned and the banks get to remit to the Cbn or as the government will decide.

Awon guys Yi, oni arojinle.
Ode people!

Your monies also will be gone poof!

sddiamond:

I've been reading your comments, you reasons like a kid and uneducated fellow, usually after referendum, United Nations comes in to set up a government in the new country, even when its certain that there faith is decided, it takes almost 2yrs to finally go their separate ways, referendum is not a civil war, why will Nigeria fortified there money in the bank or assets. I don't know how you people reason, keep given yourself hope of owning a property, what happened during the war was the case of abandon property, who wan leave him property now? Even EVANS owns properties in GHANA yet he is from Nigeria, as long as you have a Nigerian passport with ECOWAS law that states that all the members can travel and live among the member state without a passport, you're safe. Go back to school.

emmadejust:
Hello nairalanders.

There is an arguement between my guy on, if a particular part in a country should decide or agree to succeed out from their original country.
That all individual property owned by people of other separatist will be lost to citizens of the other state/country.

My question is, does succession make legal property owned by individual lost because he/she is no more part of the other separatist country ?

Your detail analysis please

@ lalasticala

pheesayor:

You're counting the costs already? Well after the civil war, Igbos in the south got the properties back, I know of a particular founder of a bank who secured Ekuweme's property in Apapa and gave it back to him after the war. In case of anything now, there will be no secession because the igbo elites making money outside the south east will make sure it doesn't happen, the only option will be a war, unfortunately there is no Ojukwu in the army right now

Dumaknesset:



What I have written is beyond what your 2 mb brain can understand . Do you mean, how will Nigerians forfeit their money. You cant even string a sentence with making elementary mistakes, yet you have the temerity to advice me to go back to school. Ecowas law, are you kidding me! I said Baifrans will forfeit their monies not Nigerians. This pipsqueak that is comprehension is sub zero is pontificating. wonders will never cease. You just show you are not only slow but uneducated, better don't kill yourself on what you can't comprehend.

Finally, So is your Biafra a member of Ecowas, I can imagine the hare brain shit cauterizing in your brain, just don't lose it.

Iti!

Dumaknesset:


It shows these biafrans don't think that things through.

emmadejust:


One of my friend told me how his father friend become a very big property owner in rivers because of the Biafra war, someone who doesn't even know how money is made.
Some rivers people show some hate to Igbo like if they are once a captive to Igbo people.

fulanmafia:
IDEALLY No, but with the uncivil approach to secession adopted by IPOB characterized by threats, insults and blackmail targeted at the North, you can be sure that there will be no happy separation with smiling faces or any bi-lateral agreements between the parties concerned.

Dumaknesset:



What I have written is beyond what your 2 mb brain can understand . Do you mean, how will Nigerians forfeit their money. You cant even string a sentence with making elementary mistakes, yet you have the temerity to advice me to go back to school. Ecowas law, are you kidding me! I said Baifrans will forfeit their monies not Nigerians. This pipsqueak that is comprehension is sub zero is pontificating. wonders will never cease. You just show you are not only slow but uneducated, better don't kill yourself on what you can't comprehend.

Finally, So is your Biafra a member of Ecowas, I can imagine the hare brain shit cauterizing in your brain, just don't lose it.

Iti!

emmadejust:
Hello nairalanders.



My question is, does succession make legal property owned by individual lost because he/she is no more part of the other separatist country ?

Your detail analysis please

@ lalasticala

emmadejust:
Hello nairalanders.

There is an arguement between my guy on, if a particular part in a country should decide or agree to succeed out from their original country.
That all individual property owned by people of other separatist will be lost to citizens of the other state/country.

My question is, does succession make legal property owned by individual lost because he/she is no more part of the other separatist country ?

Your detail analysis please

@ lalasticala