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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by dyydxx: 1:45pm On Jun 11, 2017
gohome:


This example is flawed. Can you use an example between 2 countries and not a country and a continent?

When you are done doing that, can you give an example by stipulating the law that will be in a bill, act or whatever that will tell the difference between Biafra and say Ghana? Please don't use vague statement like 'set of regulations' The reason I want you to do it is for you to think and then hear yourself.

Saudi Arabia and Most GCC(Egypt,UAE,Bahrain) countries explicitly banned Qataris by cutting ties and closing their borders and instructing all of them to get out of their respective countries. They even made a law that anybody that sympathizes with the Qataris will be jailed for 3 years. All these happened last week. Google is your friend. So what are you going on about

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by laudate: 1:52pm On Jun 11, 2017
dyydxx:
Saudi Arabia and Most GCC(Egypt,UAE,Bahrain) countries explicitly banned Qataris by cutting ties and closing their borders and instructing all of them to get out of their respective countries. They even made a law that anybody that sympathizes with the Qataris will be jailed for 3 years. All these happened this week. Google is your friend. So what are you going on about

Gbam!! Those IPOB apologists will pretend not to have seen this one. They will still claim that mass deportations cannot be conducted in today's world. Kindly note that USA, UK and several Western countries have not condemned this move by the Gulf countries yet, o! Maybe they will do so, tomorrow....

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Bontee: 2:36pm On Jun 11, 2017
Biafra will be part of ECOWAS and not everything will go as being portrayed here.
Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by gohome: 3:48pm On Jun 11, 2017
laudate:


You chaps are just jokers. So you now speak for the entire authorities of Lagos State, right? And your wishful dreams will make the other tribes billionaires overnight, as if they have started minting naira notes in the lagoon? And in your deluded dreams you feel the biafrans will retain their asset, if there is a breakup? keep dreaming, bro'. shocked

Break up does not always mean war. Gosh why are you so stuck in time. Why so much venom.
Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by gohome: 3:49pm On Jun 11, 2017
dyydxx:


Saudi Arabia and Most GCC(Egypt,UAE,Bahrain) countries explicitly banned Qataris by cutting ties and closing their borders and instructing all of them to get out of their respective countries. They even made a law that anybody that sympathizes with the Qataris will be jailed for 3 years. All these happened last week. Google is your friend. So what are you going on about

Breakup does not mean war. You should have at least read through the thread to avoid embarrassing yourself

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by laudate: 3:52pm On Jun 11, 2017
gohome:
Break up does not always mean war. Gosh why are you so stuck in time. Why so much venom.

Which venom? Are you referring to the one that your IPOB brothers have been spewing online?

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by gohome: 3:53pm On Jun 11, 2017
modik:


Keep upholding colonial mentality

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery!






The only way to emancipate your self from slavery is to invest in science and technology. (Ditto Japan, China, Korea etc) if you are too lazy to do that... you have no escape route
Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by gohome: 4:19pm On Jun 11, 2017
laudate:


Which venom? Are you referring to the one that your IPOB brothers have been spewing online?

lol at IPOB brother. You are getting more emotional. I argue to Teach and Learn, it seems at this state, you have not to take or give.. in fact you appear to have the same mindset of the IPOB pips. so no need to waste our times. See ya!

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by laudate: 4:22pm On Jun 11, 2017
gohome:
lol at IPOB brother. You are getting more emotional. I argue to Teach and Learn, it seems at this state, you have not to take or give.. in fact you appear to have the same mindset of the IPOB pips. so no need to waste our times. See ya!

You were the one making noise about 'venom' here. That was why I pointed you in the right direction so you could see where the venom was coming from. Instead of seeing the truth, you took off. Why am I not surprised?

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by dyydxx: 5:36pm On Jun 11, 2017
gohome:


Breakup does not mean war. You should have at least read through the thread to[b] avoid embarrassing yourself[/b]

You are the one persistently embarrassing yourself. you are hopelessly ignorant. Is saudi Arabia at war with Qatar? or is Egypt at war with Qatar abeg i dont have any more time for ignoramuses.

you lot will only learn with harsh life experiences.

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by emmadejust(m): 8:11pm On Jun 11, 2017
gohome:


If Biafra secession happens democratically and in peace time and the rest of Nigeria by miracle (ijaw nation, Yoruba nation, etc) remains an entity, the federal government structure as we know it will be gone. That's so obvious because the constitution will be rewritten.

Discussions around state autonomy will be on the table. Lagos state for example will be the pride of the Yoruba elites and will ask for city State status. Some concessions will have to be reached and I am sure Lagos will want to control its laws that affect its financial strength (stock exchange, banking, real estate... etc)

Ijaw will never be in any union without full resource country.

The Edos for example will want laws that protect minorities .... things like state of origin and birth will be trashed.

A plateau or a man from southern Kaduna will also want to protect his farm lands

The constitutional review will be interesting

Now back to the biafrans. If by any chance the laws of nigeria becomes more draconian after Biafra, for Lagos real estate, I see moderates (Elite, Yoruba, Edo, itsekiri etc) becoming billionaires over night while the biafrans retain their asset. I won't say how yet until you give me the typical law you have been dreaming of that will differentiate between A Biafran and say a Ghanian which will make him forfeit his properties
Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Konquest: 5:16am On Jun 12, 2017
P
laudate:


I believe Dumaknesset was just being sarcastic. Go back and read his posts from the beginning... I do not always agree with him, but his response to that guy was a reaction to an earlier statement, made by the chap.

^^^^^^^
@laudate

Thanks for pointing out my error of
judgement to me. smiley

It was the sarcasm in @dumaknesset's
post that caught my eyes and the
fact that he has "Knesset" in his
monicker so I thought he was one
of the pro-Israeli SE guys who like making
spurious comments online which
have been gleaned from propaganda
Websites.

Thanks again for your kind clarification
and I hope I don't get burned like
this next time. grin

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Konquest: 6:47am On Jun 12, 2017
Dumaknesset:


Calm down and don't fall apart on me. I am Yoruba too for whatever that is worth, just taunting the developers.
^^^^^^
^^^^^^
@DumaKnesset
I apologize for misinterpreting your
post. @laudate also pointed out
the sarcasm in what you were trying
to convey in your post as well.

Your post actually made sense to me when I re-read it.

Once again accept my apology and
do have a GREAT WEEK ahead. smiley

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Nobody: 7:24am On Jun 12, 2017
Konquest:
^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ @DumaKnesset I apologize for misinterpreting your post. @laudate also pointed out the sarcasm in what you were trying to convey in your post as well.
Your post actually made sense to me when I re-read it.
Once again accept my apology and do have a GREAT WEEK ahead. smiley

Lovely week too bro!

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by oyatz(m): 2:55pm On Jun 12, 2017
This is the kind of trait exhibited by igbos that earn them the resentment from other Nigerians.
There is nothing the igbos have achieved that can't or hasn't been achieved by other Nigerians.




Unimaginable123:
mention the one u can do apart from cattle rearing

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by oyatz(m): 2:58pm On Jun 12, 2017
He was only employing sarcasm to its fullest!




Konquest:


^^^^^^^^^^^^^
@dumaknesset

Ibos do NOT own 90% of the real estate
in Lagos State. This is the kind of
delutional and psychopathic thinking
that exists among some of you.

You are a PURE Nascisist! So Yorubas
who are the hosts of the Ibo only own
0.2% in their own land? It is people
like YOU that give your Ibo kinsmen
a VERY BAD name with your warped
ego!

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by oyatz(m): 3:11pm On Jun 12, 2017
In my own opinion, Biafra can be actualized gradually with at least 5years preparatory phase with understanding from both Nigerian and Biafra sides .
Any sudden disintegration of Nigeria will cause a humanitarian crisis for Biafra ,with ripple effects for the rest of Nigeria.
Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Unimaginable123: 3:45pm On Jun 12, 2017
oyatz:
This is the kind of trait exhibited by igbos that earn them the resentment from other Nigerians.
There is nothing the igbos have achieved that can't or hasn't been achieved by other Nigerians.




time will tell. Just calm down
Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Unimaginable123: 3:48pm On Jun 12, 2017
Konquest:


^^^^^^^^^^^^^
@dumaknesset

Ibos do NOT own 90% of the real estate
in Lagos State. This is the kind of
delutional and psychopathic thinking
that exists among some of you.

You are a PURE Nascisist! So Yorubas
who are the hosts of the Ibo only own
0.2% in their own land? It is people
like YOU that give your Ibo kinsmen
a VERY BAD name with your warped
ego!
how are yorubas actually hosts of igbo? U give us free accommodation, food, transport and money?
Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Konquest: 4:03pm On Jun 12, 2017
oyatz:
He was only employing sarcasm to its fullest!





^^^^^^
^^^^^^
Yes he was... grin grin
One of the finest and most
profound sarcasms I've ever seen!

I'm loving the intense info
on this thread and there is a lot
to learn about nationhood
and personal tolerance.

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Nobody: 4:35pm On Jun 12, 2017
Unimaginable123:
how are yorubas actually hosts of igbo? U give us free accommodation, food, transport and money?


They might not be free but they are highly subsidized.

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Unimaginable123: 6:33pm On Jun 12, 2017
Dumaknesset:



They might not be free but they are highly subsidized.
I'm sure you yourself know u are lying
Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Nobody: 6:59pm On Jun 12, 2017
Unimaginable123:
I'm sure you yourself know u are lying

Must I always Break these things down.Okay here we go, you guys use our brt, Lamata buses, subsidized general hospital, free education during Awo 's time, and attend our public school, now ambode is giving loans and your people are flocking Alausa for money, we do not discriminate, we employ you guys into our civil service which you will not do for us, we even allow some of you to be commissioner. Do you understand now, if you have to pay for it fully, you guys will not be running your dirty bucca cavities.

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by koladebrainiac(m): 7:11pm On Jun 12, 2017
Ogalanyachieze:
yes and no. No if you have valid documents eg. C of O. Yes if that c of o gets revoked. As a simple rule states in the north and all over the sw do not give igbos c of o. Cos of fear of paying compensation to igbos. The big questios still remains why do we igbos foolishly keep building and putting landed properties outside our zones. Emeka built one room dem no give am ifeanyi built four rooms them no give am now chinedu come go build four deckings is that not foolishness igbo ewu nu - ojukw

You a liar Igbo gets CofO in Lagos its only in East that they dont give CofO to individual n companies

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by laudate: 7:37pm On Jun 12, 2017
Konquest:
P
^^^^^^^
@laudate

Thanks for pointing out my error of
judgement to me. smiley

It was the sarcasm in @dumaknesset's
post that caught my eyes and the
fact that he has "Knesset" in his
monicker so I thought he was one
of the pro-Israeli SE guys who like making
spurious comments online which
have been gleaned from propaganda
Websites.

Thanks again for your kind clarification
and I hope I don't get burned like
this next time. grin

No problem, bro'. I understand you perfectly. Do enjoy the rest of your day. Cheers!! cool

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by orunto27: 7:48pm On Jun 12, 2017
Just obey the Residency Laws for yourself and for your property.

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by orunto27: 7:50pm On Jun 12, 2017
When you are in Rome, act like a Roman.

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by laudate: 8:23pm On Jun 12, 2017
Ogalanyachieze:
yes and no. No if you have valid documents eg. C of O. Yes if that c of o gets revoked. As a simple rule states in the north and all over the sw do not give igbos c of o. Cos of fear of paying compensation to igbos. The big questios still remains why do we igbos foolishly keep building and putting landed properties outside our zones. Emeka built one room dem no give am ifeanyi built four rooms them no give am now chinedu come go build four deckings is that not foolishness igbo ewu nu - ojukw

Oga, every state in the Southwest gives CofO once you buy land, pay the necessary fees and your documents are verified and found to be correct. It does not matter if you are Gwari, Igala, Tiv, Junkun, Igbo, Idoma, Bura or Efik. Even small Ogun State down there was advising people to come and collect CofO.

Ogun State Govt Distributes 1,000 Certificates of Occupancy

In furtherance of its fulfilment to Home Owners in Ogun State to regularize their landed property at a reduced discount, the State Government has again distributed another round of 1,000 Certificates of Occupancy (Cs-of-O), and building plan approval to home owners in the State.

Distributing the Cs-of-O at the Arcade Ground in Oke- Mosan, the Governor, Senator Ibikunle Amosun, represented by the Attorney General and Commissioner for Justice of the State, Mrs. Abimbola Akeredolu, said the Governor is very proud to identify herself with the programme, adding that the Homeowners’ Charter programme has come to stay in the State.

She said the programme has made the issuance of Cs-of-O and building plan approval very easy, putting into consideration the previous cumbersome and bottlenecks of the processes being experienced before the inception of the administration of Senator Ibikunle Amosun.

The Commissioner call on other State to emulate the Ogun State Government at championing the cause of programme that would add value to the citizens of their State, saying that the 1,000 Cs-of-O and building plan approval distributed was in fulfilment of Senator Ibikunle Amosun’s administration during his re- election campaign bids across the State. https://securenigeria365./2015/04/22/ogun-state-govt-distribute-1000-certificates-of-occupancy/
Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by jpphilips(m): 2:26pm On Jun 13, 2017
modik:


Little wonder why politicians still use "I will give you electricity" as campaign promise after over 50 years of Nationhood.

Your mentality and definition of Nationhood speaks volume.

Biafrans deserve better and with determination and unanimity, better will they get

Good Luck with that who knows, you may learn a thing or two on your way to biafra, by the way, how are you guys getting along with the Arewa threat? chest beating? prayerful? huh!! grin grin

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by jpphilips(m): 2:32pm On Jun 13, 2017
[quote author=Jonathan39 post=57400247]Oga carry your useless advice enter gutter make I see road. When did you start wishing igbOs well? Or do you think you can sway us down? Nonsense lipsrsealed lipsrsealed



from the way you sound and your inability to quote a post properly, i can bet you are nowhere close to owning a property anywhere in your lifetime so why do you care?

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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by jpphilips(m): 2:37pm On Jun 13, 2017
modik:



Take it or leave it, we live in a world where every citizen should not only be free but seen to be free.

As a world citizen, I have an inalienable right to self determination. That right, is recognized globally.

A state where a citizen would be seen but not to be heard is not the best for him, where equality is defined by quota system and not by meritocracy, is not the best place to be.

I shouldn't remind you that this is 2017 and not 1967. The world has moved and we must move along. Violence is not the strategy (May 30th is on record).


A country where sanctity of life is only on paper can never be a dream land of any forward looking citizen. (A section of the country has absolute right to take fellow citizen's lives at any slight provocation without being brought to book, while others protest peacefully/unarmed and are silenced with weapons acquired with tax payers money).

A country where application of law is selective (different treatment for the rich and the poor)(African China's song comes to mind), hmmm

A country where citizens for over 50 years pay for darkness instead of electricity, is heart rending!

Above all, a country where unity is by force without the tenets of equity and equality is not fit for humans.


Re-think!




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Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by simplycarro: 2:40pm On Jun 13, 2017
dyydxx:


You are the one persistently embarrassing yourself. you are hopelessly ignorant. Is saudi Arabia at war with Qatar? or is Egypt at war with Qatar abeg i dont have any more time for ignoramuses.

you lot will only learn with harsh life experiences.

That is the only way this generation of Ibos will ever learn.

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