₦airaland Forum

customised87:
Her situation sounds just like mine was in 2014. Got my visa(June 2014) to attend a programme in NY in July 2014. Unfortunately, I returned from my interview and was admitted straight for severe morning sickness which I battled for like the first 4 months of my pregnancy.I was in the hospital for up to 2 months so I obviously missed the program. I went on to use the visa to birth in Feb 2015 and I was able to renew my visa this Feb 2017 without been called in for an interview. So in my opinion, even the VOs and CBPs know things happen every now and then. What if she is in the same situation and can't travel again at this time?

Onegai:
I believe the issue is, frequency. A situation comes up and it's understandable. 3 in 10 will have these issues and that's fine. But when 9 out of 10 show up, with the same "issue" and excuse, then it becomes suspicious. In the past, no-one cared as long as you paid your bills. They were delighted to welcome new citizens sef. Even UK was begging Nigerians who schooled abroad to apply for British citizenship. But what happens now? The system got abused and at Heathrow, Nigerians are treated like criminals and grilled aggressively. Same thing is beginning to happen in the US: someone came here a few weeks ago to say how a CBP officer tried to deter her by saying they no longer allowed foreigners to come give birth. I kept quiet, even though I could have mentioned that in my former county (a nice, liberal county), they found a home for wealthy Koreans used to organize childbirth tourism and called police on them and had them escorted out, it was on the news because protesters even showed up. Last month, a nurse at one of the popular hospitals mentioned on this thread was grilling my cousin "Why are so many Nigerians coming here, it's because of the birth by citizenship isn't it?" during her labour. Nigerians tend to see something, it makes sense and they flood it unthinkingly until it crashes (everyone does makeup and sings and is a model/designer now, before everyone entered IT, before then everyone sold lace, then everyone rushed into Banking etc).

Be honest: I'm going to give birth, here is my plan. Yes or No?

Once the embassy says "No need for letter of intent" and Trump's strategists push the new law for extreme vetting of visa applicants, including vetting their social media, next thing they will work on is that in 5 to 10 years' time, constitutional amendment: citizenship by birth and parental only. UK, France and Germany is suffering from from second generation (children of immigrants) turning into terrorists (they can't deport citizens). You think the US is not considering modifying things already? Okay na.

And for those saying "I have millions, I don't live in America by choice, I don't need them blah blah", great. Then why go there and hassle to give birth? The truly rich Nigerians are turning down US citizenship, in fact once you go to the US and spend some serious dough acquiring assets, they offer you citizenship (the entire family). No need for "please what is the cheapest state blah blah".

Onegai:
I believe the issue is, frequency. A situation comes up and it's understandable. 3 in 10 will have these issues and that's fine. But when 9 out of 10 show up, with the same "issue" and excuse, then it becomes suspicious. In the past, no-one cared as long as you paid your bills. They were delighted to welcome new citizens sef. Even UK was begging Nigerians who schooled abroad to apply for British citizenship. But what happens now? The system got abused and at Heathrow, Nigerians are treated like criminals and grilled aggressively. Same thing is beginning to happen in the US: someone came here a few weeks ago to say how a CBP officer tried to deter her by saying they no longer allowed foreigners to come give birth. I kept quiet, even though I could have mentioned that in my former county (a nice, liberal county), they found a home for wealthy Koreans used to organize childbirth tourism and called police on them and had them escorted out, it was on the news because protesters even showed up. Last month, a nurse at one of the popular hospitals mentioned on this thread was grilling my cousin "Why are so many Nigerians coming here, it's because of the birth by citizenship isn't it?" during her labour. Nigerians tend to see something, it makes sense and they flood it unthinkingly until it crashes (everyone does makeup and sings and is a model/designer now, before everyone entered IT, before then everyone sold lace, then everyone rushed into Banking etc).

Be honest: I'm going to give birth, here is my plan. Yes or No?

Once the embassy says "No need for letter of intent" and Trump's strategists push the new law for extreme vetting of visa applicants, including vetting their social media, next thing they will work on is that in 5 to 10 years' time, constitutional amendment: citizenship by birth and parental only. UK, France and Germany is suffering from from second generation (children of immigrants) turning into terrorists (they can't deport citizens). You think the US is not considering modifying things already? Okay na.

And for those saying "I have millions, I don't live in America by choice, I don't need them blah blah", great. Then why go there and hassle to give birth? The truly rich Nigerians are turning down US citizenship, in fact once you go to the US and spend some serious dough acquiring assets, they offer you citizenship (the entire family). No need for "please what is the cheapest state blah blah".

TWoods:
Difficult to see such a constitutional amendment happening at all. However, what i suspect will happen (if immigration reform ever passes) is likely the elimination of the ability to seek medical treatment in the US on a B1/B2 visa. People who wish to have kids in the US would then need to apply for a specific medical visa. That would eliminate all these cases of "sudden" pregnancies once visiting visas have been obtained.

oluwainfin:
Will advise you check for flights to NJ or NY. Den buy connecting tickets to TX. Check Ethiopian for better rates

temyb:
Hello everyone,it's been a while. Just passing thru and decided to say hello. Congrats to new moms and God bless the moms to be hustle as dollars ain't smiling

temyb:
Yippee my twins are 1. It's been a wonderful journey, it's has been God all through. Looking back, all I can say is thank you Lord. Congratulations to all the new moms and in advance to moms-to be

chibertha:
My dear arrange yourself well and go ahead.
Don't fear because of the negatives you hear.
Let me tell you what I heard before I left
1) my doctor said they won't fly you at 37 weeks
2) A Pastor in church said his wife was denied when going the second time after having their first baby
Etc etc
I just told them thanks and went on doing my research
I didn't even know of this thread then
What I did was read every part of the US embassy website to arm myself
Also I did my research on airlines to get the one that can take me at 37weeks l even printed the page and took along.
I got to the states POE was
What are you coming to do
I said to put to birth
I was told the normal you are not entitled to any government facilities pay all your bills and bring your receipts next time you come to this country.

It was when I put to birth and from this thread latter I understood why my pastors wife was denied entry. She took Medicaid for the kid and collected food weekly until she returned. No be she find trouble?

All I am saying is your case will always be different if you listen to people outside this thread you will be afraid to go for it.
Good luck.

TWoods:
To an extent i would agree with you and perhaps admit i may have been quite brusque with regard to some of my responses. However... you would also admit that a lot of our problem is that we are a society that expects to be "treated with respect" even when we are obviously breaking the law. Demanding respect, without character or integrity, is nothing. Now i'll try to address a few points in your note above:

1. Lets be honest, the intent of many here is glaringly obvious. Infact the very title of the thread makes it clear. Its lying about it that is the problem. If you are planning to have a child in the US, just admit so at your interview. Often times many complain that everyone has become a CBP officer, the part everyone tends to ignore is that the lies that others tell is why genuine travellers have a harder time obtaining visas. It is UNFAIR for others to have to jump through hoops to satisfy a visa officer just because the visa officers have had to deal with prior fraudulent applicants. We all deserve to be able to walk into a US embassy and not have to face embarrassing questions, intrusive requests and demeaning interview sessions just because the previous guy chose to present himself with false documents. So yeah, while we should not "carry people's problems like gala", their actions reflect negatively on everyone else... whether you like it or not. You're going to be the next pregnant family seeking a visa, don't be surprised if they don't believe your story regardless of how genuine it is.

For example - documents are no longer required for a visa interview in Nigeria... BECAUSE of the preponderance of FAKE documents. If you were applying for a visa in the US (or change of status), documents are required (because they can be verified easily). Documents are also required in other European countries. I remember a little over 15 years ago, an invitation letter used to be good enough to guarantee a visiting visa... well thanks to Nigerians with their "gala".

No one wants to be a CBP officer, but dear Lord help others to not have to constantly suffer the indignity of being treated with suspicion just for merely holding a green passport... because of your actions.

2. Financial status - if you can't afford to have a baby in the US, kindly have him/her in Nigeria. It is not worth it.

3. Plans - well, travel to the US is not the same as traveling to Ibadan. You would expect that someone who went through the process of applying for a visa has already made plans that are consistent with what they claimed at their interview.

Bottomline, there really is not excuse for lying... at all.

nefertitiram:
Rex0105,

This epistle is long.

My own is why are you having sleepless night over the birthing in US ?

Anyways, she can travel with d boys. Nobody will harass them or harass you if you travel alone. Plans change and its just a holiday.

Let madam do the PT before she starts worrying about being preg, don't get ahead of yourself.

And all these things people are telling you are lies.

You can apply for visa for the baby at any age. Your family can go on their vacation without you. Your wife can birth in US anytime after the holiday as long as she has the right papers from the doctors and sufficient funds.

So stop having sleepless nights except she tell you shes expecting triplets in this economy and scan shows they are all boys. In that situation, sleepless nights is allowed.

justwise:
You don't sound too sure

fasttrack:
meanwhile, justwise, a friend of mine is going to yankee this week and his passport is expiring in 4 months time, does that really matter because he's coming back next month before the passport expires.

chibertha:
I have done this trip before in 2010. I promise you wont be too easy for a pregnant woman or doing it with a baby. My rout was JFK-Charlotte-Houston had to wait 3 hours in Charlotte the flight gets to JFK late in the Night you have to look for where to sleep till wee hours in the morning before take off from JFK.
I promise you it is better to do Houston direct I did it in 2011 it was sweet.

geojay:
Helo sweet mamas and papies, am here to show my appreciation, with my full loads of questions and worries, you answered in love. Now in the US with my mum and baby, no problem at all at the poe in houston, infact the officer didnt know i was pregnant, he asked why we are in houston, i told him vacation and, before i could finish, he just said ohh, dts nice on vacation, i quickly chipped in, "and for childbirth too" he was like, are you pregnant, yes i am, he stood up abit to look at my tummy, he then asked how far gone i am, i told him 34weeks, he said waoo and you dont look it, well, but to me, i feel am.carrying the biggest tummy in the world. He stamped my baby, stamped my mum's and stamped mine too amd welcome us to usa. Proceeded to baggage claim and then to inspectiom, i guess its the monetary inspectiom side, was asked to fill a form, asked why i had so much money, i told her because am coming for delivery and i am paying cash, she asked for the receipt of my last delivery, i gave her everything, she checked and said what kind of work do you do, to have all these cash, before i could reply, she tapped on her system amd said ohh, ok, come along with me to where your foodstuff will go through inspection, she later helped me with the trolley, saying "you look tired and you look like you wanna drop that baby here now, let me help you? She helped me pushed the trolley while my mum back my baby, i just drag along cos am so tired and wornout, it was late. At the food inspection, my knorr chicken was collected, even though it doesnt have wrap, they knew it, they collected my tubers of yam, whole 3, chaii, i kept saying, my yam, my yam, they just bursted into laughter and said its not allowed. Well, i got to the hotel and found out that i still have a small yam left in my bag, it looks like diamond to me. So that was how my poe experience went .

geojay:
Helo sweet mamas and papies, am here to show my appreciation, with my full loads of questions and worries, you answered in love. Now in the US with my mum and baby, no problem at all at the poe in houston, infact the officer didnt know i was pregnant, he asked why we are in houston, i told him vacation and, before i could finish, he just said ohh, dts nice on vacation, i quickly chipped in, "and for childbirth too" he was like, are you pregnant, yes i am, he stood up abit to look at my tummy, he then asked how far gone i am, i told him 34weeks, he said waoo and you dont look it, well, but to me, i feel am.carrying the biggest tummy in the world. He stamped my baby, stamped my mum's and stamped mine too amd welcome us to usa. Proceeded to baggage claim and then to inspectiom, i guess its the monetary inspectiom side, was asked to fill a form, asked why i had so much money, i told her because am coming for delivery and i am paying cash, she asked for the receipt of my last delivery, i gave her everything, she checked and said what kind of work do you do, to have all these cash, before i could reply, she tapped on her system amd said ohh, ok, come along with me to where your foodstuff will go through inspection, she later helped me with the trolley, saying "you look tired and you look like you wanna drop that baby here now, let me help you? She helped me pushed the trolley while my mum back my baby, i just drag along cos am so tired and wornout, it was late. At the food inspection, my knorr chicken was collected, even though it doesnt have wrap, they knew it, they collected my tubers of yam, whole 3, chaii, i kept saying, my yam, my yam, they just bursted into laughter and said its not allowed. Well, i got to the hotel and found out that i still have a small yam left in my bag, it looks like diamond to me. So that was how my poe experience went .

Golden222:
please which airline flew you at 37 weeks?

goobyparks:
Please does Houston have an easy POE. I want to go to Houston but i'm thinking of going through JFK coz of easy POE. However, will they still drill me wen I get to d airport in Houston since I came in via local flight.
Pls help a preggy sister

Niksie:
Hello House, it’s time to share my POE experience. To God be all the glory.

I flew Airfrance on Thursday night, there was no issue with fit-to-fly letter as it seems they were not even interested anyway. I had it with me already so I just told the lady that attended to me at check-in desk and she collected a copy.
The flight was alright timing and all but I’ll say the food served and entertainment was just there.

The walk from where we landed in Paris to the next take off point was a bit long but it was ok for me at this point. I also noticed there were people in uniform at different points checking passport, visa and ticket as we walked.

Fast forward to new York (JFK) POE, the place wasn’t busy at the time we landed……I was directed to use the self-service machine after which I was sent to meet a CBP officer.

CBP officer (cool young guy): hello
Me: hi
CBP officer (cool young guy): how long will you be staying?
Me: about 10weeks (he looked surprised) so I quickly added that yea cos I’ll be on vacation and have my baby aswell.
CBP officer (cool young guy): oh you having your baby too?
Me: yea (the guy was cool with that and already stamping me in)

A young female colleague standing beside him heard him and cuts in

CBP officer (lady): are you sure you don’t wanna check with them inside?
CBP officer (cool young guy): hmmm not necessary, I don’t think they like the idea (I think he meant he dint need to go ask something he already knows how to handle)
CBP officer (lady): I think you should (then the guy went inside). She kept on questioning me.
Are you married? (Me: yes I am, showed her my ring)
Where are you having your baby?
Did you come to US prior to this to check for doctor and all? (Me: no I didn’t but I contacted the doctor)
Where are you staying?
Can you afford it? Where does your husband work? (Me: yes we can)
How much does it cost?
How do you intend to pay? (Me: I have some cash which I showed and my cards)
Is your husband coming to join you and bringing more cash? (Me: yea later but I’m with our bank cards to spend from account. I have the statements to show)
CBP officer (cool young guy): He came back in like 2mins…..madam, have your passport and enjoy your stay. He sent me towards agric cos I declared that I had food.

I picked up my baggage and realized that cart is USD 6.00 (oops), luckily one man offered to pay for me (awesome).
At agric, my boxes were scanned but not opened to search then I left (pushing the cart) to link the next terminal via air train to catch my delta flight to chicago.

Note: I had to insert the card I used to book the delta ticket during self-check-in maybe cos I booked on their site directly but it was mentioned at the point of booking.

I had a long wait time as I booked a late flight incase of delay. Walk to the boarding gate to Chicago was sooo long, I kept pausing along the way but maybe I should have joined the shuttle or something.

Finally, I got to Chicago then realized one of my boxes with food was forced open (padlock broken) by custom peeps for inspection and they dropped a card inside to notify me ( I guess this happened between when I checked in for new york - chicago flight).

Thank God for a nice POE experience and thank you for experiences shared here to prepare us for this journey.

fasttrack:
meanwhile, justwise, a friend of mine is going to yankee this week and his passport is expiring in 4 months time, does that really matter because he's coming back next month before the passport expires.

goobyparks:
Please wat visa did you use? B1/B2 (tourism) or medical?
If B1/B2, did u write to d embassy for change of intent or weren't you preggy when you got your visa?
In my own case, I was already preggy when I got my visa and I want to travel this October bt I'm scared of sending change of intent letter coz they might reject coz during my interview I said I wz going for vacation (and nt childbirth)

goobyparks:
Please does Houston have an easy POE. I want to go to Houston but i'm thinking of going through JFK coz of easy POE. However, will they still drill me wen I get to d airport in Houston since I came in via local flight.
Pls help a preggy sister

justwise:
The American embassy should be investigated or maybe a special counsel need to be appointed to look into this issue of their visa and pregnancy. God fearing Nigerian women are getting pregnant immediately after getting American visa.

Newbie12:
Good evening, help please. My sis intends to join her husband in the States and her interview is very soon, they ve got all the necessary documents, ds 160,passport, F1, F2, evidence of scholarship,marriage certificate, etc, please what kind of questions should she prepare for.. Her passport is Virgin. Thanks