Melonny:
lol. Payment of bride price is a tradition.. I think we should look up the meaning of right, opportunity and responsibility.
As a man, when you wait for a woman to be responsible for defending the family, Is that one a man?

gokuu:
And as most of it is done with Men, then;

I bet you have never seen TWO LESBIANS doing it together?
Why wont Bwest fall like Bag of Water Mellon!

You need to grow up and start acting your age

Pidgin2:


I'm not From the North, I'm only speaking out for my sisters there and others who are being treated less than humans

Nomfanelo99:
it's not that we women don't appreciate our gender . we do . All we asking for is RESPECT from the male species. we have suffered for centuries. innocent women being killed right, left and centre. Men hate the fact we no longer afraid to voice ourselves. we've been silent for too long . if wanting to be treated as a human being makes one unsubumissive, then I'll pick unsubmissive any day .

chisco82:

Explain better plz, what bareier are u talking about?

Estharfabian:
not once did I say Anything derogatory towards you, male.


or is the rights to dialogue like civil human beings restricted to just males, now?

Estharfabian:
the ones holding the power to 'give'.....

chisco82:

And when you re going out on a date will you expect the man to come and open the car door for you in the name of being romantic?
If your explanation is what gender equality is all about then Man is not expected to pay bride price, Man is should no longer be the head of the home and Man should not be call upon to defend his family.
I believe what we should be discusing is equity, thats better explain what you wrote up there.
You can never give another meaning to the word "GENDER EQUALITY"

Acidosis:


Oga, that's what feminist wrote on PAPER. The reality is way different from the equal opportunity nonsense.

I've written over 25 papers on gender inequality and I've come to realize our own version of gender equality in Nigeria is impossible to achieve. Women already earn same salary with their male counterparts in the corporate world..in fact, women get more and better jobs than men. Same applies to every other sector.

None of these so called feminist is interested in the actual meaning of gender equality. The agitators are only interested in changing the Nigerian partriachial (social) system - This for me is IMPOSSIBLE.

@OP, I have to applaud your writeup because I share the same opinion, however, there is a difference between s.ex. and gender.

S.ex. is biologically determined as female and male according to specific physical features which are fixed. Whoever tries to change this is plainly displaying some moments of incurable ins.anity.

Gender on the other hand is defined as a system of roles relationship between women and men, that are determined not biologically but by social, political or economic context.

So, for me both se. x equality and gender equality are not achievable because an attempt to change our partriachial social system is tantamount to a collapsed social belief/morals.

Tayeni:
I think what every lady should demand from their society is the assurance that her options are open and with no restrictions or glass ceilings whichever path yiu decide to toe. Whether you choose to be a stay at home mom or a boardroom lady, you should support this.
In Nigeria though, more women are needed in productive or economic endeavors. And men should see this not as a threat to their existence or selfworth. Men should have more confidence to accept this. I think rejection of this comes from a place of insecurity.

chisco82:

So which area are u talking about, does tradition not playing important roles in our life.
So you re saying that tradition should remain while there is gender equality?
You forgot that its tradition that made man head of the house, its tradition that made it that a man should be the one to pay bride price.

AHCB:
I beg to differ. All around me I see women who break barriers and stamp their foot print in the Sands of time.

"Excuses are cheap" the society we live gives equal opportunity to everyone. Nobody expect you to be submissive, subservient, receptive and the likes, you can only choose to. Mary Onyali, Lola Alakija, Funmi Iyanda, Genevieve Nnaji, Omotola and the likes didn't conform to what society expect of them, did they?

Please, stop giving excuses, be a goal getter, an achiever, an employer of labour and people won't even notice there's a vagina between your thighs.

Acidosis:


Oga, that's what feminist wrote on PAPER. The reality is way different from the equal opportunity nonsense.

I've written over 25 papers on gender inequality and I've come to realize our own version of gender equality in Nigeria is impossible to achieve. Women already earn same salary with their male counterparts in the corporate world..in fact, women get more and better jobs than men. Same applies to every other sector.

None of these so called feminist is interested in the actual meaning of gender equality. The agitators are only interested in changing the Nigerian partriachial (social) system - This for me is IMPOSSIBLE.

@OP, I have to applaud your writeup because I share the same opinion, however, there is a difference between s.ex. and gender.

S.ex. is biologically determined as female and male according to specific physical features which are fixed. Whoever tries to change this is plainly displaying some moments of incurable ins.anity.

Gender on the other hand is defined as a system of roles relationship between women and men, that are determined not biologically but by social, political or economic context.

So, for me both se. x equality and gender equality are not achievable because an attempt to change our partriachial social system is tantamount to a collapsed social belief/morals.

Estharfabian:
...the natter about Bride-Price caught my attention .


See, No man would pay That on my head, or any of my female Daughters. it's against everything I believe in. A culture that promotes Female negotiation should be eschewed. A practice that creates an impression that one party was sought after, negotiated and payed for..it isn't something I believe in.


PS-Sorry to burst your bubbles fam, many Women Are breadwinners of their home. most times, the males just Take undue Credit for it.

Estharfabian:
...the natter about Bride-Price caught my attention .


See, No man would pay That on my head, or any of my female Daughters. it's against everything I believe in. A culture that promotes Female negotiation should be eschewed. A practice that creates an impression that one party was sought after, negotiated and payed for..it isn't something I believe in.


PS-Sorry to burst your bubbles fam, many Women Are breadwinners of their home. most times, the males just Take undue Credit for it.

NairalandCS:


This is why I just sit, and laugh at all of you arguing this shit called gender equality and equity or whatever you all call it.

People are bound to tweak it to fit their selfish interest.

Someone saying bride price is a no no because she feels she's being sold.

Just imagine, like say they weren't dating before the said negotiation.

Another guy will soon come out now and say since we're on the topic of equity or equality, I'm not gonna propose to any girl. Why should I be the one begging if we're equal ?

proudafrogal:


so your problem is the term "gender equality "?
equality is achieved by removing barrier that limit people and allowing them to reach their full potential through equity.

gender equity is a means to an end

They did not do it by whining and crying "barrier, barrier" all over the place.


What everyone deserves EQUITY because it means JUSTICE and FAIRNESS ...to all, irrespective of their gender.
Treat everyone the same way and punish everyone the same way, reward everyone the same way, for equal work done.
SIMPLE.
Why some Women think this is a bad idea still baffles me.
But then, we can understand .......when some women have nothing to offer, except their BODY..... which has gone saggy!

chisco82:

Well i dont know where you came from and your culture but i can tell you that no matter how u want it u cant excpate the tradition or what the law says concerning that.
@ the bolded, being the bread winner does nt make her the head and when she refuse to take her position it causes problem and divorce. My point is so long as Man is the head of the house, there is nothing like gender equality. Family is what makes up society.

NairalandCS:


This is why I just sit, and laugh at all of you arguing this shit called gender equality and equity or whatever you all call it.

People are bound to tweak it to fit their selfish interest.

Someone saying bride price is a no no because she feels she's being sold.

Just imagine, like say they weren't dating before the said negotiation.

Another guy will soon come out now and say since we're on the topic of equity or equality, I'm not gonna propose to any girl. Why should I be the one begging if we're equal ?

Estharfabian:
Where is your 'proof'?

feminism isn't the battle of the sexes brah... Stop speaking for the lot of us. no one is beckoning to be the Superior gender. Superiority Should be earned and One's Anatomical/Physiological differences shouldn't be benchmark or A standard for measuring Superiority or leadership.

Estharfabian:
In the bid to Tutor Grown ass women on what they SHOULD be doing, I couldn't help but notice your self absorbed male ego Taking over the place... little wonder who make you Judge, jury and Executioner? oh, I forgot! It's an inherent Quality you must posses, Because well, You own a Pènis, and I don't.

look Oga, you don't have no right to tell women how and how Not to live their lives. they aren't puppets, kids... they are humans and should be responsible for whatever decision they take.

You mentioned Baby-mamaism and left the tiny detail Culminating Procreation. in other for there to be a BabyMama, there has to be a BabyDaddy. but you were so Quick to point Judgy fingers at the woman, because well, Nature has made it possible for us to harness the little testosterone in us, to Create Sperms..

and oh, Gender equality and feminism isn't stopping anytime soon. if it's peppering You, drink water. it's My religion.

chisco82:

So which area are u talking about, does tradition not playing important roles in our life.
So you re saying that tradition should remain while there is gender equality?
You forgot that its tradition that made man head of the house, its tradition that made it that a man should be the one to pay bride price.

HaneefahRN:
An extremely dumb thread.

To all the ignorant ones, not every woman is gifted with naturally firm breasts. We are all different

Estharfabian:
In the bid to Tutor Grown ass women on what they SHOULD be doing, I couldn't help but notice your self absorbed male ego Taking over the place... little wonder who make you Judge, jury and Executioner? oh, I forgot! It's an inherent Quality you must posses, Because well, You own a Pènis, and I don't.

look Oga, you don't have no right to tell women how and how Not to live their lives. they aren't puppets, kids... they are humans and should be responsible for whatever decision they take.

You mentioned Baby-mamaism and left the tiny detail Culminating Procreation. in other for there to be a BabyMama, there has to be a BabyDaddy. but you were so Quick to point Judgy fingers at the woman, because well, Nature has made it possible for us to harness the little testosterone in us, to Create Sperms..

and oh, Gender equality and feminism isn't stopping anytime soon. if it's peppering You, drink water. it's My religion.

Daboomb:


There is NO BARRIER!

Only weak people see a barrier, where the smart ones see an Opportunity!

Reaching your full potential is a CHOICE you and only you would have to make because it involves sacrifice, intelligence, persistence and a lot of hardwork...... something "most" women lack or are not noted for!

A lot of women have jettisoned this unintelligent way of thinking and have emancipated themselves and reached their full potential in Life.
They did it by working hard, working smart and persistence till they achieved their goal.

They did not do it by whining and crying "barrier, barrier" all over the place.


What everyone deserves EQUITY because it means JUSTICE and FAIRNESS ...to all, irrespective of their gender.
Treat everyone the same way and punish everyone the same way, reward everyone the same way, for equal work done.
SIMPLE.
Why some Women think this is a bad idea still baffles me.
But then, we can understand .......when some women have nothing to offer, except their BODY..... which has gone saggy!

chiraqDemon:

Well, most feminist posts on NL make it seem like it's a gender battle. I'm actually agreeing with u tho. I'm just saying some feminist articles on NL and outside NL make it seem that way

iamrealdeji:
they're married and is you are single . everybody knows a woman's boobs sag when she has a baby or abortion

Okies27:
. All I'm saying is women can be whatever they want to become without the issue of gender equality. But if you wanna be what men are, then, there is a price nature has set for that. Can a man carry pregnancy for 9 months? Answer is No.
There's a strength in being a woman, so use it wisely.
Yea, baby mama and baby daddy everywhere and that's because they failed in their respective duties as a man and a woman. Let each one play her/his God given role. A guy corrects a girl, she says he's a control freak.
A man is created to exercise authority but it becomes a problem when the woman sees the authority as something she can wield too. There are certain things/authority a woman can't wield.
A woman can't be a man.
Remember, on father's day, Tonto Dike dressed like a man n took her son to school but a white woman will call Churchill to come pick his son to school cos it's father's day. It's simple.
Men should love n women submit. Women should not see submission as weakness but strength to get what they want from their men.
I enjoy vaginas, u enjoy penis. Simple

AyilaraFingar:
lol yeye of the highest order,..keep deceiving yourselves..

Estharfabian:
In the bid to Tutor Grown ass women on what they SHOULD be doing, I couldn't help but notice your self absorbed male ego Taking over the place... little wonder who make you Judge, jury and Executioner? oh, I forgot! It's an inherent Quality you must posses, Because well, You own a Pènis, and I don't.

look Oga, you don't have no right to tell women how and how Not to live their lives. they aren't puppets, kids... they are humans and should be responsible for whatever decision they take.

You mentioned Baby-mamaism and left the tiny detail Culminating Procreation. in other for there to be a BabyMama, there has to be a BabyDaddy. but you were so Quick to point Judgy fingers at the woman, because well, Nature has made it possible for us to harness the little testosterone in us, to Create Sperms..

and oh, Gender equality and feminism isn't stopping anytime soon. if it's peppering You, drink water. it's My religion.

Estharfabian:
See, You just have to Unlearn everything Thing you Have Cherry picked about Gender equality. women don't want to be men, please. Equality isn't the same thing as 'sameness' of gender. We don't want your pënises. Eww!

A man is Created to exercise Authority. Wrong. Authority should be earned and not Tied to One's Anatomy.

if submission is such a beautiful Adjective and isn't synonymous to Weakness. then, brother, Why don't you 'Submit' to her instead? and Biko, refrain from Preaching religion to me, I've lost faith in that too.


Submission is for slaves. women are not slaves. rather than preaching submissiveNess, preach Mutual Respect, love, empathy. these things build homes and not Hierarchical Nonsense.