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AyilaraFingar:
good for u,since you want to be unsubmissive,just remain single and stop fighting for what can never happen

my post said it all. I would never be with someone who doesn't value nor treat women with respect

AyilaraFingar:
if you like form over sabi from here to Alaska,..gender equality(the way an average lazy woman defines it) can never and will never exist,...laugh all u want, u have only three options,its either you get married to a mumu man that you will be feeding yourself(who is not counted as a man),remain single(judging from ur write up I think that's the best option for u),or you stop fucking with the devil and give God a chance in ur life and remain submissive to an honourable man,...I know u may be thinking,oh,why is this guy talking about the maternal part of the whole issue,..that's because the societal part is just a dream and fantasy only few hardworking women will have a shot at the same opportunities with men,not the lazy ones playing the gender card,.have a nice day

Lol.


well, Unlike you lots... we've got Sane feminist males That don't feel threatened By Successful women. Men that don't believe women should be second fiddles to them. men that see women as their equals. Men of substance.

And well, I've been blessed to be surrounded by those kind of people. So, You see sweetie, Whether I decide to remain single Shouldn't be your problem o. Marriage isn't All roses and Unicorns too, else we wouldn't be having Divorce cases popping out Every day.

Ciao brother.

AHCB:
I beg to differ. All around me I see women who break barriers and stamp their foot print in the Sands of time.

"Excuses are cheap" the society we live gives equal opportunity to everyone. Nobody expect you to be submissive, subservient, receptive and the likes, you can only choose to. Mary Onyali, Lola Alakija, Funmi Iyanda, Genevieve Nnaji, Omotola and the likes didn't conform to what society expect of them, did they?

Please, stop giving excuses, be a goal getter, an achiever, an employer of labour and people won't even notice there's a vagina between your thighs.

women, before and after my birth, have been attending the same schools with men, and you can find them working in every sector of the economy as well...some as directors, some as HODs, some as subordinates, same as their male counterparts. the opportunity is free like air and attaining any feat is simply where your qualifications, coupled with your determination, get you.

i have both female and male bosses in my place of work and accord each his/her due respect. most job vacancies i've seen do not specify male gender only. so, i don't really get the reason for this "gender equality" rants these nairaland girls are still fighting for. or are they clamouring for easier access to reaches because they have a one pussy and two bigger breasts?

clowns!

lovelygurl:

Hey...

Estharfabian:
See, You just have to Unlearn everything you Have Cherry picked about Gender equality. women don't want to be men, please. Equality isn't the same thing as 'sameness' of gender. We don't want your pënises. Eww!

A man is Created to exercise Authority. Wrong. Authority should be earned and not Tied to One's Anatomy.

if submission is such a beautiful Adjective and isn't synonymous to Weakness. then, brother, Why don't you 'Submit' to her instead? and Biko, refrain from Preaching religion to me, I've lost faith in that too.


Submission is for slaves. women are not slaves. rather than preaching submissiveNess, preach Mutual Respect, love, empathy. these things build homes and not Hierarchical Nonsense.

. This is where the problem is. Authority is in a man's DNA. It doesn't mean enslaving others. You have to learn what submissiveness means. It isn't slavery either. My points aren't drawn from any religion but life in itself. Every male creature exercises this authority, from simple to complex animals. Look at the life of the lion, eagle etc. It's nature.

It is not rocket science that men and women are not the same no arguing can rectify that. Feminism has become corrupted and is very centred on a skewed point of view. What my grandmothers fought and argued for was fairness and opportunity. Fairness to be given the same level to posibilities and not to be excluded only on the account of being a woman.And opportunity to be able to prove yourself based on merit not affermitive action.

Estharfabian:
See, You just have to Unlearn everything you Have Cherry picked about Gender equality. women don't want to be men, please. Equality isn't the same thing as 'sameness' of gender. We don't want your pënises. Eww!

A man is Created to exercise Authority. Wrong. Authority should be earned and not Tied to One's Anatomy.

if submission is such a beautiful Adjective and isn't synonymous to Weakness. then, brother, Why don't you 'Submit' to her instead? and Biko, refrain from Preaching religion to me, I've lost faith in that too.


Submission is for slaves. women are not slaves. rather than preaching submissiveNess, preach Mutual Respect, love, empathy. these things build homes and not Hierarchical Nonsense.

. Lemme make it simple, authority places a man in a position to tell a woman to jump and submissiveness makes her ask the man how high do you want me to jump? Because she trusts him to catch her when she jumps.

Okies27:
. This is where the problem is. Authority is in a man's DNA. It doesn't mean enslaving others. You have to learn what submissiveness means. It isn't slavery either. My points aren't drawn from any religion but life in itself. Every male creature exercises this authority, from simple to complex animals. Look at the life of the lion, eagle etc. It's nature.

No dear, It isn't. It should be Earned. Not just giving because one holds a pènis.

You can't tell me You're a standard of authority Because You're male and I'm female. Because it's inherent In your XY gene to lead. No, prove to me first that you're a better leader than I am!


Unlearn first...That's the stepping stone to Understanding.

Estharfabian:
Hey...

Heyo, I see you are still trying to reason with them. Some of them are hopeless. It's a waste of time. Some of their 'arguments' leaves me shocked and wondering how someone can be this dumb. You don't even know whether to cry or laugh for/at them

Daboomb:
Men are where they are today, because they worked hard, worked Smart and showed intelligence plus persistence.
Women will go only as far as their INTELLIGENCE and HARD-WORK can get them..... not by begging or trying to force Men to dash them anything[/color].


Men like you have a warped sense of patriotism towards women and you spew nonsense, just to gain the acceptance of women.
Stop these pandering to kitten, it is just a fleeting feeling
+234-7045074932
When you say "More Women" are needed in productive and economic sectors, are you trying to LIMIT the participation of Men in such sectors?
- Are you saying Women have been "actively prevented" from participating in those Sectors?
- How does Women participating in Productive and Economic sectors, threaten Men?
- Should Men be prevented from participating in such Sectors simply because you want to force Women (most of whom are unwilling) to bemore in those Sectors?

Mr keyboard warrior try to keep it clean....why are you taking it personal....its just a discussion..its my opinion and what I think my society needs. Now to answer what my thoughts are in relation to the questions.
I run a business with my sister(smart and intelligent BTW)....I've had more than two formerstaff say to my face that they object to having a woman as their boss and that they would prefer to work with me than with her.....tell me if those men sound secure to you. And its even a common saying among some types of men that they will never ever allow their women make more money than them.

-The way you train a female child goes a long way to shape her view of her position in the society. I grew up in the north and you wouldn't see women in the market buying and selling like you'd see down south(that's one if the shocks I experienced when I moved a little south). They are all locked up in their husband's houses as what they call "kulle". Just bear children and bicker with your husband's other wives....that's all they do. No schooling , no economic activities.
Now I don't see any other " active prevention" from participating in the productive sectors than that. And that's the case Emir Sanusi has been advocating that got him into trouble.
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-We don't have to force women who have grown to accept a lower place in the society as a result of the mental conditioning they received growing up to aspire for more. But the society can do more for the next generation.

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Okies27:
. Lemme make it simple, authority places a man in a position to tell a woman to jump and submissiveness makes her ask the man how high do you want me to jump? Because she trusts him to catch her when she jumps.

Here's a better scenario.


him : Jump
me: Why should I jump?

Lol.
that's the human thing to do. you just proved submission is Weakness, Stupidity and Vulnerability.

Estharfabian:
Lol.


well, Unlike you lots... we've got Sane feminist males That don't feel threatened By Successful women. Men that don't believe women should be second fiddles to them. men that see women as their equals. Men of substance.

And well, I've been blessed to be surrounded by those kind of people. So, You see sweetie, Whether I decide to remain single Shouldn't be your problem o. Marriage isn't All roses and Unicorns too, else we wouldn't be having Divorce cases popping out Every day.

Ciao brother.

babe if you read what I wrote without Ego,you would know I'm not threatened by a woman,..well you are right no one cares if you remain single or not,.but there is no such thing as gender equality,hard working women take what they want and the reasonable ones don't mistake it as an excuse not to do what is expected of them as a woman in their matrimonial home(that is if she's married to an honourable man).....gender equality/feminism is just a rouse to give lazy women a chance to play the gender and victim card,period...
Ciao to you too sister

lovelygurl:
Heyo, I see you are still trying to reason with them. Some of them are hopeless. It's a waste of time. Some of their 'arguments' leaves me shocked and wondering how someone can be this dumb. You don't even know whether to cry or laugh for/at them

lol.

Well, those one can't be saved abeg. I'm trying to reason with the intelligent ones. the ones that Understand and accept Mutual dialogues without losing civility in the process.

I Cannoh comman Kee myself because of NL Shildren.

OP i believe you know nothing about what the struggle for gender equality entails. Besides the more you and your kind of women make statements like these, the more you give men the boldness to go and behave as they like.
Condemn promiscuity in all its forms and dont tell us how it does no harm to men(which is a total lie by the way).
As for the men rejoicing because you think this has given you a hall pass of some sort, you should know better.
I am a man but i believe in equal rights and opportunities for both genders because i have four sisters and a mother i love so much. I do this for them, my future wife and my unborn female kids. You should too

Stop trying to subdue our women. We are no longer in the dark ages

Estharfabian:
lol.

Well, those one can't be saved abeg. I'm trying to reason with the intelligent ones. the ones that Understand and accept Mutual dialogues without losing civility in the process.

I Cannoh comman Kee myself because of NL Shildren.

Loool nobody should. I just don't understand why they always want to force their beliefs down your throat when girls like op are desperate enough to kiss their ass.

shaboti:
OP i believe you know nothing about what the struggle for gender equality entails. Besides the more you and your kind of women make statements like these, the more you give men the boldness to go and behave as they like.
Condemn promiscuity in all its forms and dont tell us how it does no harm to men(which is a total lie by the way).
As for the men rejoicing because you think this has given you a hall pass of some sort, you should know better.
I am a man but i believe in equal rights and opportunities for both genders because i have four sisters and a mother i love so much. I do this for them, my future wife and my unborn female kids. You should too

Stop trying to subdue our women. We are no longer in the dark ages

It's too late for op. This are the kind of guys she'll forever be attracting. She does not know her worth so why should a guy know how worthy she is

they can never be such thing like gender equality in Nigeria :Pthey can never be such thing like gender equality in Nigeria

RadicallyBlunt:
You do not understand me. Of course I know and I'm not naive that one has to love a man before she submits to him. You know within you that you love the man but he doesnt feel the love until you show it in submission..that's my point.

If many women understand the depth of being a wife only let alone knowing what it really means to submit, men's complain of the trouble women give them would reduce.

God knows what he's made and he has d best manual to whatever he created. A woman may love a man but the man doesn't truly feel it until its unwrapped thru submission. Its equivalent to how a woman doesn't feel loved until a man shows it in creating time and attention for her.

Unfortunately what men keep hearing after declaring his love openly for her is .."did you not see me as a troublesome person before you proposed to me?"... Its the worst hypertensive statement from the mouth of a loved woman I've ever heard.

Guy, I love your type

Tayeni:
My guy....in a lot of places and situations...women are discriminated against in the African culture.... even the first world is not "unguilty"of this. This appears in different forms and degrees in different cultures....take for example Saudi Arabia where women until recently were not allowed to vote or drive a car.
Even America allowed suffrage just close to the middle of last century.....so its an ingoing process. You can liken it to the black American situation before The civil rights activism pushed back segregation to an extent.

These rights won't be given without activism and some form of resistance or some form of affirmative action(ministry of women's affairs like you mentioned)
Sanusi said something sometime ago to the effect that; a society that fails to harness the potential of its female population and restricts them to domestic capacity, will achieve half its potential because half of its population is redundant.
Personally I won't raise a daughter with the mindset the OP operates from. I will never give her the chance or treat her to think of herself as a lesser form of human. I will teach her to respect everybody and demand respect as well.
teach her not to be apologetic about being intelligent.
Teach her to pursue her dreams and aspirations no matter how non conforming to the patriarchal expectations of the society.

I'm not displacing your facts but it should be EQUITY AND NOT EQUALITY because the two genders can never be equal

lovelygurl:
It's too late for op. This are the kind of guys she'll forever be attracting. She does not know her worth so why should a guy know how worthy she is

Where u call someone EX, that means it's over and gone for life. Presently, I'm in a very healthy relationship, the best a lady could ever wish for and my wedding bells are tolling.. See you guys in few months time

I'm not here to attract guys because someone worthy of it has taken over already... I'm here on nairaland to cause commotion with my controversial threads not to search for love.

I LOVE HIM SO MUCH... ONE OF THE BEST MAN HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF THE SHELF.. SEE MY WEDDING PIX IN FEW MONTHS TIME.

Estharfabian:
Exactly my point.
why do we have to break Certain, Herculean barriers in other to achieve something Members of opposite Gender would get on a Pot of gold? why do the society feel the need to make Us work relentlessly, Unduly hard in other to meet up with Societal standards?

Oh so you think and believe men don't struggle to break barriers? You don't men are given 'pot of gold' just because they're men? You think men don't work relentlessly hard in other to meet with societal standards and expectations?

Hello, please answer me this, what do you do for a living? And kindly ask your dad, if any of what you mentioned was given to him on a 'pot of gold' like you said.

sexybbstar:
Where u call someone EX, that means it's over and gone for life. Presently, I'm in a very healthy relationship, the best a lady could ever wish for and my wedding bells are tolling.. See you guys in few months time

I'm not here to attract guys because someone worthy of it has taken over already... I'm here on nairaland to cause commotion with my controversial threads not to search for love.

I LOVE HIM SO MUCH... ONE OF THE BEST MAN HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF THE SHELF.. SEE MY WEDDING PIX IN FEW MONTHS TIME.

Ehn ehn? Happy married life in advance. I pray you don't have to create another account to to whine about your healthy relationship. The stress you've gone through should be rewarded

FTrebirth:
women, before and after my birth, have been attending the same schools with men, and you can find them working in every sector of the economy as well...some as directors, some as HODs, some as subordinates, same as their male counterparts. the opportunity is free like air and attaining any feat is simply where your qualifications, coupled with your determination, get you.

i have both female and male bosses in my place of work and accord each his/her due respect. most job vacancies i've seen do not specify male gender only. so, i don't really get the reason for this "gender equality" rants these nairaland girls are still fighting for. or are they clamouring for easier access to reaches because they have a one pussy and two bigger breasts?

clowns!

The bolded is what I feel they are silently clamouring for with this gender equality diatribe.

lovelygurl:
Loool nobody should. I just don't understand why they always want to force their beliefs down your throat when girls like op are desperate enough to kiss their ass.

it doesn't surprise me anymore sef. I've seen enough asslicking bullshii to last me a lifetime...

they should keep kissing their Ass, savour the taste of their Anal juice while at it.

AHCB:
The bolded is what I feel they are silently clamouring for with this gender equality diatribe.

which is equally prostitution.

FTrebirth:
women, before and after my birth, have been attending the same schools with men, and you can find them working in every sector of the economy as well...some as directors, some as HODs, some as subordinates, same as their male counterparts. the opportunity is free like air and attaining any feat is simply where your qualifications, coupled with your determination, get you.

i have both female and male bosses in my place of work and accord each his/her due respect. most job vacancies i've seen do not specify male gender only. so, i don't really get the reason for this "gender equality" rants these nairaland girls are still fighting for. or are they clamouring for easier access to reaches because they have a one pussy and two bigger breasts?

clowns!

may be this is one of the reasons for the "gender equality rants"

sexybbstar:
Where u call someone EX, that means it's over and gone for life. Presently, I'm in a very healthy relationship, the best a lady could ever wish for and my wedding bells are tolling.. See you guys in few months time

I'm not here to attract guys because someone worthy of it has taken over already... I'm here on nairaland to cause commotion with my controversial threads not to search for love.

I LOVE HIM SO MUCH... ONE OF THE BEST MAN HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF THE SHELF.. SEE MY WEDDING PIX IN FEW MONTHS TIME.

you're not serious.

Estharfabian:
Here's a better scenario.


him : Jump
me: Why should I jump?

Lol.
that's the human thing to do. you just proved submission is Weakness, Stupidity and Vulnerability.

. It's not a show of strength but just an understanding of what a man and a woman represents. And how they should live in the society, their place of work etc.

LordAdam16:
The more shameful part is that it is even a debate in the first place.

In this day and age, if a person above the age of 15 and has passed Junior High (JSS) is arguing against gender equality (usually because they have unashamedly failed to grasp the faintest idea of what it is about), it paints a rather grim picture of how far off the mark we are as a nation.

It's not like it was ever that encouraging, but at least girl child education isn't a taboo topic anymore, and one would reasonably expect that normal, functioning adults know a teeny-weeny bit about gender equality, it's relationship with girl child education, and why the world's future rests on progressive stances like gender equality and equity, resource sustainability, increased tolerance et cetera.

Many of the comments I see here are statements I'd expect from ret*rded folks, unambitious dropouts, religious f*cktards, men who have failed in life (and need to mudsling others to feel better about themselves), or privileged egoists. But you'd be surprised about the standings of many of the commenters on here and how they are a bitter reflection of the society.

Just walk into any random eatery and bring this issue up, you'd be surprised about the similarity between the contributions you receive and the comments you read here.

And it is particularly nauseating that a forum run by a self-acclaimed progressive atheist would actually promote a non-religious position that would never stand in any rigorous academic debate in any of the world's top 10,000 institutions for discussion, never mind the ridiculous balderdash that made up the OP.

Am I disappointed by the comments I read on here, absolutely not, many Nigerians redefine stupidity with their opinions that are about as factual as the Santa Claus myth. But then, did I expect to see the kind of promotion this thread gets, not likely. I read through this thread in one of my recent forays in the Romance section, and decided against commenting because I deemed it a perfect avenue for misfits to throw a pity party about how the world is conspiring against them. And some d*rtbag mod decided it was a party deserving of prime-time.

Unbelievable!

-Lord

Well its expected every now and then.
Read they wont read.
Have self esteem, NO.
Try and be happy, they refuse.
Ok just find meaning in your life, a problem.
So when they see people who have found a path, happiness, studied, and have self esteem showcase their abilities they use the platform of those people to create awareness for themselves through arguing against those people's points.
To say am shocked would be a lie.
I'm not surprised at all.
The OP is highly uninformed about a lot of things.
Follow her and you would understand better what I mean.

FTrebirth:
which is equally prostitution.

many of them will vehemently disagree. But hey, it's all about opinion nowadays.

FTrebirth:
you're not serious.

LOL, yes now. I've been a guest for some years before I opened an account. It's always fun reading comments on other people's threads now it's just pleasing to see the same thing happening on my thread.

proudafrogal:
may be this is one of the reasons for the "gender equality rants"

i'm not a muslim and i don't support that position. i can vote a qualified female as president over a less qualified male candidate.