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JackBizzle:
This thread is for Christians who are scientists, whether they are doctors, lab assistants, technicians, engineers etc.

HOW DO YOU BALANCE YOUR RELIGION WITH SCIENCE? THIS IS VECAUSE THEY CAN BE POLAR OPPOSITE AT TIMES.

JUST LOOK AT THESE QUESTIONS

1. As a biologist, how do you explain Jesus rising from the dead, when you know that a dead body can't rise again especially after 3 days?


2. Where does Jesus's other set of chromosomes come from if Joseph is not his father (no biological father)


3. As a geologist, wouldn't there be earth or soil under any body of water? Then how could God in genesis claim to have floated over deep waters and created the earth?

4. How do you reconcile pastors healing diseases with no cure? How can someone be healed of Aids, Ebola etc?

5. How can an astrophysicist look at the vast emptiness of outer space and agree that a great omniscient God created such a waste?

it means science has a long way to go in unraveling the mystery of world

TLuzzie:
A mystery is no answer. Do you know why Christian theologians do call the Holy Trinity the "Mystery of Christian Faith"? It's another way of saying, I don't know what I'm talking about, but I refuse to listen to my rational mind screaming bullshit.

If you know this 'mystery', mind letting me in on it?

even in science, there is exception to laws.

Niflheim:
@whitebeard,

Are these the people you are telling us to try and be like? The people who you claim are thinking out of the box?

they were hypnotized

TLuzzie:
Have you ever heard of people who put faith healing over medical science because they believe in the efficacy of prayer and have absolute faith in it, as demanded by Jesus? Do you know what tends to be the end result? Many Christian parents have KILLED their babies because they trust Jesus that their prayers will work, and as a Christian you can't reprimand them for this behaviour since they simply followed the teachings of your religion, which you've been trying to deny here, because you know that it is HARMFUL bullsh!t! Science and Religion may be seperate like you said, but [color=darkblue]what happens when they CLASH[/color]? As a Christian doctor (to be), whose side will you take? That of science or religion? This is the entire thrust of JackBizzle's challenge. He merely gave those questions in page 1 to make you catch a glimpse of what he's getting at. Those questions were NOT the main thing. But some Spacetacular was 'too smart' to get the crux of the thread, and was busy jumping around painting the whole place in reeking blood as she suffers menstrual cramps, accusing everyone of illogic, only to end up exhibiting gross dishonesty in her 'debate' with CatfishBilly.

Again, I ask, whose side do you take when Science and religion CLASH? To the best of my knowledge, [color=darkgreen]Science has ALWAYS emerged victorious whenever such happens[/color].

Learn to speak without sounding like you are sitting on spikes.

First of all there was no "crux" to the thread. There would have been a "crux" if an argument was placed as back up to the questions asked. You need not be the spokesperson for Jack. I believe he is capable of speaking for himself although he NEVER did that even up till this moment but has simply been acting like a malevolent cunning fox up till last night.

Secondly, the entire opening questions were dishonest for lack of an argument from the convener as proper "civil" debates follow.

Thirdly if you had carefully followed my conversation with catfishbilly you would realise that we focused entirely on PRAYER and never strayed from that and my responses were specific to that via the scriptures.

I never exhibited dishonesty especially when I began by trying to stop Jack from being dishonest. I wasn't the only one who observed his dishonest approach and I wonder why and how you convinced yourself that I was being dishonest.

Even when I used the word WORK from Scripture to mean RELATIONSHIP, Mr hopefullandlord felt I was being dishonest which speaks volumes about the scope of reasoning some persons are limited to. I had to properly clear his problem with a simple scriptural explanatory guide.

You need to get off those spikes you are sitting on.

spacetacular:
Learn to speak without sounding like you are seating on spikes.

Bullsh!t

First of all there was no "crux" to the thread. There would have been a "crux" if an argument was placed as back up to the questions asked. You need not be the spokesperson for Jack. I believe he is capable of speaking for himself although he NEVER did that even up till this moment but has simply been acting like a malevolent cunning fox up till last night.

He told you to SWERVE. This is his thread. If you have issues with his presentation, FUCK_ OFF! He didn't invite you. He owes you no explanation. And of course, there's no crux to the topic simply because you said so. Other Christians already started responding before you began spewing your nonsense. This is not the first time an atheist will open a thread and throw questions at Christians, and the Christians have done the same many times in the past. No one complained, so what's your stress?

Secondly, the entire opening questions were dishonest for lack of an argument from the convener as proper "civil" debates follow.

Pure baloney. Heap of bullocks.

Thirdly if you had carefully followed my conversation with catfishbilly you would realise that we focused entirely on PRAYER and never strayed from that and my responses were specific to that via the scriptures.

I don't think I ever said you discussed anything other than prayer. Your responses were dishonest. "Every sensible person could see that".

I never exhibited dishonesty especially when I began by trying to stop Jack from being dishonest. I wasn't the only one who observed his dishonest approach and I wonder why and how you convinced yourself that I was being dishonest.

Pile of batsh!t.

Even when I used the word WORK from Scripture to mean RELATIONSHIP, Mr hopefullandlord felt I was being dishonest which speaks volumes about the scope of reasoning some persons are limited to. I had to properly clear his problem with a simple scriptural explanatory guide.

Jesus is the foremost authority. Even his apostles can't contradict him, let alone you. Anyone who contradicts him MUST be wrong. Finito.

You need to get off those spikes you are sitting on.

Absolute horsesh!t.

tobechi74:
it means science has a long way to go in unraveling the mystery of world

Or that religion cannot admit when it is scientifically wrong

TLuzzie:
Bullsh!t

He told you to SWERVE. This is his thread. If you have issues with his presentation, FUCK_ OFF! He didn't invite you. He owes you no explanation. And of course, there's no crux to the topic simply because you said so. Other Christians already started responding before you began spewing your nonsense. This is not the first time an atheist will open a thread and throw questions at Christians, and the Christians have done the same many times in the past. No one complained, so what's your stress?

Pure baloney. Heap of bullocks.

I don't think I ever said you discussed anything other than prayer. Your responses were dishonest. "Every sensible person could see that".

Pile of batsh!t.

Jesus is the foremost authority. Even his apostles can't contradict him, let alone you. Anyone who contradicts him MUST be wrong. Finito.

Absolute horsesh!t.

I am sure you were glad that other Christians responded before asking WHY the questions were asked in the first place so the convener can give his arguments. You are actually pissed now because things didn't quite go the way you hoped it would so you would have room to mock and rant senselessly as you have been known to do on each and every comment you make.

So Jesus is the foremost authority recognised by who? You are an atheist remember?

Those who recognise Jesus as "their" authority have been given his spirit to enable HIS TRUTH be revealed to them. I have that revelation and you can call it a pile of dung if that makes you happy but it wouldn't change the revelation of that truth I know and which you do not subscribe to yet lay claim that Jesus is the final authority as an atheist.

Those spikes must be digging in rather deep.

TLuzzie:
Bullsh!t

He told you to SWERVE. This is his thread. If you have issues with his presentation, FUCK_ OFF! He didn't invite you. He owes you no explanation. And of course, there's no crux to the topic simply because you said so. Other Christians already started responding before you began spewing your nonsense. This is not the first time an atheist will open a thread and throw questions at Christians, and the Christians have done the same many times in the past. No one complained, so what's your stress?

Pure baloney. Heap of bullocks.

I don't think I ever said you discussed anything other than prayer. Your responses were dishonest. "Every sensible person could see that".

Pile of batsh!t.

Jesus is the foremost authority. Even his apostles can't contradict him, let alone you. Anyone who contradicts him MUST be wrong. Finito.

Absolute horsesh!t.

You are wasting your time. Spacetacular is not open to reason and could possibly be trolling.

How can someone see 5 straightforward questions and then be claiming that there is no evidence for the argument? Is questioning a statement an argument? When did questions based on what is stated in the bible need evidence? Did Jesus not rise again in the bible?

spacetacular:
I am sure you were glad that other Christians responded before asking WHY the questions were asked in the first place so the convener can give his arguments. You are actually pissed now because things didn't quite go the way you hoped it would so you would have room to mock and rant senselessly as you have been known to do on each and every comment you make.

Senseless idiot_. I'm sure I was ranting when I made a congratulatory post on your thread. You're irredeemably foolish. And because you're subhuman, I'll repeat this one last time, both Christians and atheists have been opening threads since time immemorial on this forum to throw questions at one another, without anyone complaining. If YOU have problem with that, kindly FUCK_ OFF and leave the thread for those who don't. If after reading this you still don't comprehend my point, then you need a lobotomy.

So Jesus is the foremost authority recognised by who? You are an atheist remember?

Shut the fuck_ up! Jesus is the foremost authority in Christianity, mumu.

Those who recognise Jesus as "their" authority have been given his spirit to enable HIS TRUTH be revealed to them. I have that revelation and you can call it a pile of dung if that makes you happy but it wouldn't change the revelation of that truth I know and which you do not subscribe to yet lay claim that Jesus is the final authority as an atheist.

As long as you claim to be a Christian, you cannot contradict Jesus' position as stated CLEARLY and UNAMBIGIOUSLY in the scriptures, no matter what kind of evil spirit you're being possessed by.

Those spikes must be digging in rather deep.

Stop spitting out the accumulated sh!t in your skull. Serve as a trash bin for some more days.

JackBizzle:
You are wasting your time. Spacetacular is not open to reason and could possibly be trolling.

How can someone see 5 straightforward questions and then be claiming that there is no evidence for the argument? Is questioning a statement an argument? When did questions based on what is stated in the bible need evidence? Did Jesus not rise again in the bible?

She's irredeemably retarded_.

TLuzzie:
Have you ever heard of people who put faith healing over medical science because they believe in the efficacy of prayer and have absolute faith in it, as demanded by Jesus? Do you know what tends to be the end result? Many Christian parents have KILLED their babies because they trust Jesus that their prayers will work, and as a Christian you can't reprimand them for this behaviour since they simply followed the teachings of your religion, which you've been trying to deny here, because you know that it is HARMFUL bullsh!t! Science and Religion may be seperate like you said, but [color=darkblue]what happens when they CLASH[/color]? As a Christian doctor (to be), whose side will you take? That of science or religion? This is the entire thrust of JackBizzle's challenge. He merely gave those questions in page 1 to make you catch a glimpse of what he's getting at. Those questions were NOT the main thing. But some Spacetacular was 'too smart' to get the crux of the thread, and was busy jumping around painting the whole place in reeking blood as she suffers menstrual cramps, accusing everyone of illogic, only to end up exhibiting gross dishonesty in her 'debate' with CatfishBilly.

Again, I ask, whose side do you take when Science and religion CLASH? To the best of my knowledge, [color=darkgreen]Science has ALWAYS emerged victorious whenever such happens[/color].

read my previous comments on this thread for clarification. I'm not in the business of repeating myself too much.


God gave human beings an intellect, and medicine is a blessing, not a curse. But it has it's limits, from there people can trust in the healing power of God.

JackBizzle:
You are wasting your time. Spacetacular is not open to reason and could possibly be trolling.

How can someone see 5 straightforward questions and then be claiming that there is no evidence for the argument? Is questioning a statement an argument? When did questions based on what is stated in the bible need evidence? Did Jesus not rise again in the bible?

Are you normally this dense or this is just a one time thing.

You claimed you wanted a "CIVIL DEBATE". What part of the word "DEBATE" do you not understand?

Debates have to do with arguments and not questions. If you do have questions then debates entail you back them up with arguments.

This was your question about Jesus rising from the dead.

"As a biologist, how do you explain Jesus rising from the dead, when you know that a dead body can't rise again especially after 3 days?"

You said WHEN YOU KNOW! when WHO knows? Christians or you Atheists?

If you based your WHEN YOU KNOW on everyone or just atheists then show us your arguments defending this position.

I have noticed a Trend with you. YOU THINK YOU ARE INTELLIGENT BUT THAT IS YOU TELLING YOURSELF A LIE.

TLuzzie:
Senseless idiot_. I'm sure I was ranting when I made a congratulatory post on your thread. You're irredeemably foolish. And because you're subhuman, I'll repeat this one last time, both Christians and atheists have been opening threads since time immemorial on this forum to throw questions at one another, without anyone complaining. If YOU have problem with that, kindly FUCK_ OFF and leave the thread for those who don't. If after reading this you still don't comprehend my point, then you need a lobotomy.

Shut the fuck_ up! Jesus is the foremost authority in Christianity, mumu.

As long as you claim to be a Christian, you cannot contradict Jesus' position as stated CLEARLY and UNAMBIGIOUSLY in the scriptures, no matter what kind of evil spirit you're being possessed by.

Stop spitting out the accumulated sh!t in your skull. Serve as a trash bin for some more days.

But you are an atheist. Why do you take Jesus seriously on behalf of Christians?

Joshthefirst:
read my previous comments on this thread for clarification. I'm not in the business of repeating myself too much.


God gave human beings an intellect, and medicine is a blessing, not a curse. But it has it's limits, from there people can trust in the healing power of God.

I've read your previous comments and none answered the question I asked, unless you don't understand the question. There are people who follow exactly what Jesus said in the scriptures, and will choose prayer OVER medical intervention to demonstrate their faith in God and show their unflinching trust in his power, only to end up harming themselves in the process. What do you think of such Christians? Are they wrong, even though Jesus told them that they can perform wonders and get anything they want, as long as they have the faith?

Joshthefirst:
read my previous comments on this thread for clarification. I'm not in the business of repeating myself too much.


God gave human beings an intellect, and medicine is a blessing, not a curse. But it has it's limits, from there people can trust in the healing power of God.

As I have said before, the best arguments for God comes from human ignorance. As we can see from the bolded in the quoted comment, God's healing lies in the limits of human intellect and medicine.

Joshthefirst, your argument is weak

TLuzzie:
She's irredeemably retarded_.

Vitriol isn't intelligence! It simply shows rancidity.

spacetacular:
Are you normally this dense or this is just a one time thing.

You claimed you wanted a "CIVIL DEBATE". What part of the word "DEBATE" do you not understand?
Debates have to do with arguments and not questions. If you do have questions then debates entail you back them up with arguments.

This was your question about Jesus rising from the dead.

"As a biologist, how do you explain Jesus rising from the dead, when you know that a dead body can't rise again especially after 3 days?"

You said WHEN YOU KNOW! when WHO knows? Christians or you Atheists?

If you based your WHEN YOU KNOW on everyone or just atheists then show us your arguments defending this position.

I have noticed a Trend with you. YOU THINK YOU ARE INTELLIGENT BUT THAT IS YOU TELLING YOURSELF A LIE.

Just look at the bold.

Why are you so dull?

Debates are started with questions.

In atheist vs christian debates, they are all started with questions.
-is there a god?
-has religion done more harm than good?


Please, swerve with your foolishness

JackBizzle:
Just look at the bold.

Why are you so dull?

Debates are started with questions.

In atheist vs christian debates, they are all started with questions.
-is there a god?
-has religion done more harm than good?


Please, swerve with your foolishness

Oh shut up!

When questions arise from the opposer or supporter in debates they ALWAYS include their arguments which show why their questions are VALID.

I guess you were not paying attention in school.

Take correction and MAKE CORRECTIONS.

spacetacular:
Vitriol isn't intelligence! It simply shows rancidity.

Moron_. I could see you've been civil in all your posts, especially when you told JackBizzle that "you can't begin to measure his level of RETARDATION". Disgusting hypocrite.

TLuzzie:
Moron_. I could see you've been civil in all your posts, especially when you told JackBizzle that "you can't begin to measure his level of RETARDATION". Disgusting hypocrite.

Isn't he dim-witted? So far he has shown it everywhere here.

spacetacular:
Isn't he dim-witted? So far he has shown it everywhere here.

You're the dim-witted retard_.

spacetacular:
But you are an atheist. Why do you take Jesus seriously on behalf of Christians?

I wasn't born an atheist, mumu. I know exactly what Christianity is, and you must be HONEST and think like one if you claim to be a Christian.

TLuzzie:
You're the dim-witted retard_.

Retard_ and dim-witted mean the same thing. Shows who the retard_ really is.

TLuzzie:
I wasn't born an atheist, mumu. I know exactly what Christianity is, and you must be HONEST and think like one if you claim to be a Christian.

Well once you were under the authority of Jesus and now you no longer are simply because you so not subscribe to him or his ways so why then do you take Jesus seriously on behalf of those who still are under his authority?

Atheists don't do that! Simply because Jesus does not exist to them so how would his authority exist?

spacetacular:
Retard_ and dim-witted mean the same thing. Shows who the retard_ really is.

Goes to further show how retarded_ you are, since you measure intelligence by grammar. I know what idiots_ like you live on, hence why I must always give you something on which to choke, or how else can you stay relevant, retarded_ schmuck?

TLuzzie:
Goes to further show how retarded_ you are, since you measure intelligence by grammar. I know what idiots_ like you live on, hence why I must always give you something on which to choke, or how else can you stay relevant, retarded_ schmuck?

understanding the meaning and right application of words is a measure of intelligence for sake of passing across the right message or information.

Like I said, Vitriol isn't intelligence! Spread it around like spittle all day if you wish but it still wouldn't show how intelligent you are.

spacetacular:
Well once you were under the authority of Jesus and now you no longer are simply because you so not subscribe to him or his ways so why then do you take Jesus seriously on behalf of those who still are under his authority?

Atheists don't do that! Simply because Jesus does not exist to them so how would his authority exist?

You're a Christian who believes in Jesus Christ, therefore you must acknowledge his authority. You can play dumb all you want, that doesn't change the fact that you were dishonest in your conversation with CatfishBilly.

spacetacular:
understanding the meaning and right application of words is a measure of intelligence for sake of passing across the right message or information.

Like I said, Vitriol isn't intelligence! Spread it around like spittle all day if you wish but it still wouldn't show how intelligent you are.

The FOOL still doesn't get it. Your stupidity_ is incredible. Irks me that you mention intelligence so easily.

spacetacular:
Oh shut up!

When questions arise from the opposer or supporter in debates they ALWAYS include their arguments which show why their questions are VALID.

I guess you were not paying attention in school.

Take correction and MAKE CORRECTIONS.

I was starting a debate.

Keep being silly

TLuzzie:
You're a Christian who believes in Jesus Christ, therefore you must acknowledge his authority. You can play dumb all you want, that doesn't change the fact that you were dishonest in your conversation with CatfishBilly.

His authority (which you know nothing about and are not subject to) is found in HIS SPIRIT and HIS WORD.

HIS WORD is empowered by HIS SPIRIT which now is in us Christians. HIS SPIRIT leads us into THE TRUTH of HIS word for as many as are led by the spirit of God they are the SONS OF GOD.

He is my authority in the truth of HIS WORD. you know nothing of this truth so why bother?

TLuzzie:
The FOOL still doesn't get it. Your stupidity_ is incredible. Irks me that you mention intelligence so easily.

I do mention it because I AM INTELLIGENT. But I wouldn't say so for you. All vitriol and nothing more.

JackBizzle:
I was starting a debate.

Keep being silly

Does it take 24 hours TO START a debate whose questions have been asked 24 hours before?

24 hours and still no opening arguments and you say you were starting a debate?

Did you count how many times I asked for your opening arguments?