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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Markfemi: 7:16am On Aug 10, 2017
aribisala0:
You can refer to whatever you llike .If youu like call Rice garri that will not make it garri.

Ondo state has the longest shoreline in Nigeria DOUBLE that of Bayelsa. I repeat Double!!
ibo is jealous of yoruba economic advantage
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Markfemi: 7:16am On Aug 10, 2017
caleboxylic:
Guy, try to import through Onne and see for yourself. Before you get your goods, you pay heavily to Intels bc those goods are not allowed there.
Let the guy tell us why he was made to pay more there or don't we have a uniform tariff from NCS?
what type of brainless lie is this
a port wont allow you to import shoe
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by caleboxylic: 7:17am On Aug 10, 2017
Markfemi:
they have changed narrative from no ports in ss to its too expensive to clear there grin grin grin
Nobody changed anything here. If you import any goods that are not related to oil and gas, you bribe your way out unlike Lagos where you pay a standard tariff to NCS/NPA.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by caleboxylic: 7:23am On Aug 10, 2017
Markfemi:
what type of brainless lie is this
a port wont allow you to import shoe
Ask any importer around you to hear the real deal. I don't know why NPA/NCS guys have refused to do justice to this topic.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by aribisala0(m): 7:23am On Aug 10, 2017
Markfemi:
ibo is jealous of yoruba economic advantage
Eboes are jealous of themselves. If you understand the Eboe pschology you will understand why they are so cursed. The Eboe man always thinks WHY NOT ME? If his brother is successfull he is resentful.This is without exception.So when they bring this behaviour to others it is seen as "tribal" but it i not tribal that is how they treat themselves. If an Eboe sees a succesful person his psychological reaction is to formulate a theory why he is more deserving of that success and how that success could not have been achieved fairly unless it was by him.He lies reflexly and is totally without morals where money is involved

The Eboe pursues money so he can use it to OPPRESS others.His sole aim in life is to tell the poor man to shut up and oppress him.That is why an Eboe governor would take a citizen to Government House for FLOGGING because of a perceived insult. They claim to be egalitarian bbut that is a joke . In any Eboe community if you do not have money no matter what you keep quiet. It is that simple
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Markfemi: 7:24am On Aug 10, 2017
caleboxylic:
Nobody changed anything here. If you import any goods that are not related to oil and gas, you bribe your way out unlike Lagos where you pay a standard tariff to NCS/NPA.
and its yoruba governors that told them to do that grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Blue3k(op):
caleboxylic:
Guy, try to import through Onne and see for yourself. Before you get your goods, you pay heavily to Intels bc those goods are not allowed there.
Let the guy tell us why he was made to pay more there or don't we have a uniform tariff from NCS?
Stop saying nonsensical things that make you contradict yourself. If the goods aren't allowed they wouldn't clear it. Read the NPA tarrif list for 2017 stop talking out your neck.

Please deliver a hand written apologies to your teachers and who ever paid for education they have truly suffered. I'm very serious about this issue in your case. Don't shug this off.

Source: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nigerianports.org/dynamicdata/uploads/Tariffs/2017TARIFF.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjd7cqNhczVAhVC9IMKHRlsDnYQFggdMAA&usg=AFQjCNESMaV8QNtXpqpXUN9ZeVX2dN3O6g

Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Markfemi: 7:27am On Aug 10, 2017
aribisala0:
Eboes are jealous of themselves. If youunderstand the Eboe pschology you will understand why they are so cursed. The Eboe man always thinks WHY NOT ME. If his brother i successfull he is resentful.This is without exception.So when they bring this behavious to others it is seen as "tribal" but it i not tribal that is how they treat themselves. The Eboe pursues money so he can use it to OPPRESS others.His sole aim in life is to tell the poor man to shut up and oppress him.That is why an Eboe governor would take a citizen to Government House for FLOGGING because of a perceived insult. They claim to be egalitarian bbut that is a joke . In any Eboe community if you do not have money you keep quiet. It is that simple
have you observe ibo is the only one on yoruba case
niger delta wey get sea and oil no even send yoruba
yoruba is more than them in population
yoruba is richer than them
we have bigger lands oyo alone bigger than south east
we have sea across lagos ogun ondo
we have border in lagos ogunn kwara

loool so they envy us a lot that said
we need to restrcuture so we can enjoy these resources or pull out of nigeria
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Markfemi: 7:30am On Aug 10, 2017
caleboxylic:
Ask any importer around you to hear the real deal. I don't know why NPA/NCS guys have refused to do justice to this topic.
will you keep quiet
the reason lagos ports is number 1 is due to 2 things
- Population
-Economic advantage
- Closeness to wealthy states like Ogun and Ibadan
-Closeness to North central via Jebba in Kwara state
-Borders cotonou so you can easily import raw materials drive down and sell to west africa

Its called geographical advantage
Singapore has it
UAE has it

nothing you can do to change it
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by aribisala0(m): 7:33am On Aug 10, 2017
Markfemi:
have you observe ibo is the only one on yoruba case
niger delta wey get sea and oil no even send yoruba
yoruba is more than them in population
yoruba is richer than them
we have bigger lands oyo alone bigger than south east
we have sea across lagos ogun ondo
we have border in lagos ogunn kwara

loool so they envy us a lot that said
we need to restrcuture so we can enjoy these resources or pull out of nigeria
Let me assure you we will be the FIRST topull out of Nigeria. We have a strategy that does not involve war or quarrlel but is focused ona viable and integrated SW. Quite lot is going on but be patient . We will pullout wit NOT ONE bullet fired and still remaiin friends with our neighbours
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by aribisala0(m): 7:35am On Aug 10, 2017
Markfemi:
will you keep quiet
the reason lagos ports is number 1 is due to 2 things
- Population
-Economic advantage
- Closeness to wealthy states like Ogun and Ibadan
-Closeness to North central via Jebba in Kwara state
-Borders cotonou so you can easily import raw materials drive down and sell to west africa

Its called geographical advantage
Singapore has it
UAE has it

nothing you can do to change it
So are you sayng the anus should stop jealousing the tongue.

We all know who be anus who be tongue
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Markfemi: 7:36am On Aug 10, 2017
aribisala0:
Let me assure you we will be the FIRST topull out of Nigeria. We have a strategy that does not involve war or quarrlel but is focused ona viable and integrated SW. Quite lot is going on but be patient . We will pullout wit NOT ONE bullet fired and still remaiin friends with our neighbours
realistically no way nigeria can break up peacefully
but thats discussion for another thread.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by aribisala0(m): 7:38am On Aug 10, 2017
Markfemi:
realistically no way nigeria can break up peacefully
but thats discussion for another thread.
Depends on your timeline. We are patient folk...........

If the Soviet Union could then even the US can
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Markfemi: 7:39am On Aug 10, 2017
aribisala0:
Depends on your timeline. We are patient folk...........

If the Soviet Union could then even the US can
grin cheesy
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by omohayek: 7:43am On Aug 10, 2017
victord1st:
Next time try to argue with facts! Your opinion of lagos proximity to the north is flawed.The FG deliberately made clearing through Eastern port very expensive with loads of bottlenecks.Most imported consumer goods meant to be sold in the East were routed via lagos port and further trucked to the east because its fare cheaper than using any of the eastern port.Be informed that business is all about making more profit and cutting cost though I don't expect you to understand this fact ,you probably have been working as an employee all your life. It's obvious even to the blind that all the eastern port was deliberately built to facilitate export of mostly crude oil and The FG has covertly frustrated importers from using it through higher tariffs,delays and sometimes deliberately making it insecure thereby leaving it at the mercy of the pirates and militia.
Cc:blue3k
The sheer magnitude of your ignorance and stupidity is so jaw-dropping that I don't even know where to begin! How much of an idiot do you have to be to read "distance" where I said "gateway", and what does distance have to do with anything anyway? Have you ever heard of the Lagos-Ibadan expressway?

As for business knowledge, I'm pretty certain that I make more every week than you make in a year, so you can stuff your worthless "advice" on the topic where the sun doesn't shine.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by victord1st: 7:53am On Aug 10, 2017
aribisala0:
Let me assure you we will be the FIRST topull out of Nigeria. We have a strategy that does not involve war or quarrlel but is focused ona viable and integrated SW. Quite lot is going on but be patient . We will pullout wit NOT ONE bullet fired and still remaiin friends with our neighbours
We all know that it takes just two major tribes to agree before Nigeria will split and obviously Igbos don't have a problem with yorubas pulling out of Nigeria as we want out as well.the only reason Igbos haven't succeeded in securing secession is because Yoruba and Hausas will fight too keep Nigeria as one and at present we don't have what it takes militarily to pursue secession. Fact is that if Igbos and Hausa agree that Yorubas can't go ,you guys can do nada.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Nobody: 7:53am On Aug 10, 2017
I have tried to find out why all those ports are not used as much as Lagos , but no real answer. My conclusion is that Lagos is the commercial capital everyone wants their goods through Lagos .

Moreover good luck finding a shipping company willing to take your goods to any port other than Lagos . I tried it once and did not have much luck . The one company I found wanted to charge arm and leg, then I resorted to Lagos.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by victord1st: 7:59am On Aug 10, 2017
omohayek:
The sheer magnitude of your ignorance and stupidity is so jaw-dropping that I don't even know where to begin! How much of an idiot do you have to be to read "distance" where I said "gateway", and what does distance have to do with anything anyway? Have you ever heard of the Lagos-Ibadan expressway?

As for business knowledge, I'm pretty certain that I make more every week than you make in a year, so you can stuff your worthless "advice" on the topic where the sun doesn't shine.
Oga we ain't equals go and sit down.Do let us flaunt wealth here,this is an anonymous forum.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by omohayek: 8:01am On Aug 10, 2017
victord1st:
Oga we ain't equals go and sit down.Do let us flaunt wealth here,this is an anonymous forum.
You're right we "ain't equals" - you aren't worthy of licking my arse. Take your tribalism-fueled ignorance with you back to whatever ghetto you crawled out of to type your rubbish.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by victord1st: 8:12am On Aug 10, 2017
omohayek:
You're right we "ain't equals" - you aren't worthy of licking my arse. Take your tribalism-fueled ignorance with you back to whatever ghetto you crawled out of to type your rubbish.
I don't do tribal rants,I was giving reasons why I stopped using Onne port based on personal experience and someone like that hasn't tried anything on your own before is talking trash. You may go measure your dick with ur ilk.I don't blame you,I only blame nairaland for giving voice to nonentities like you.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Nobody: 8:21am On Aug 10, 2017
Whoever that is saying that eastern ports are shallow n cannot handle big ship must be high on something.my granny was a staff of NPA pH and according to him,all the goods meant for d eastern region where offloaded here in pH and I could remember vividly sometime around 1999 loads of ships carrying vehicles n other things docked in pH that was the era when golf was sold for 80000 naira n calabar port I could remember when my mama goods use to come in through there.we all know that its part of the conspiracy n that's y some people are crusaders for one nigeria.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Amberon11: 9:24am On Aug 10, 2017
Im not telling you oil palm wasnt produced in the west then, I'm saying that oil palm from the SS made the bulk of the revenue and it is a known fact. I'll post the proof if I can find it.
diadem10:
Oil palm was also produced in the west, Ondo state to be precise. So you should be the one to get your fact right.

When we combine revenues from Cocoa, limestone, timber and palm oil, I see nothing comparable from what the east produce. Should I remind you it was Zik who clamoured for 1 nigeria even when the North and the west opposed them? Why did you think he did this? Because the then eastern part had little revenues.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Nobody: 9:29am On Aug 10, 2017
dutchnorics:
Whoever that is saying that eastern ports are shallow n cannot handle big ship must be high on something.my granny was a staff of NPA pH and according to him,all the goods meant for d eastern region where offloaded here in pH and I could remember vividly sometime around 1999 loads of ships carrying vehicles n other things docked in pH that was the era when golf was sold for 80000 naira n calabar port I could remember when my mama goods use to come in through there.we all know that its part of the conspiracy n that's y some people are crusaders for one nigeria.
I remember the those days.
When you go to NPA port Harcourt you'll see gulf and opel cars everywhere, including rice.
Those were the days the ports were functioning.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Nobody: 9:33am On Aug 10, 2017
Markfemi:
will you keep quiet
the reason lagos ports is number 1 is due to 2 things
- Population
-Economic advantage
- Closeness to wealthy states like Ogun and Ibadan
-Closeness to North central via Jebba in Kwara state
-Borders cotonou so you can easily import raw materials drive down and sell to west africa

Its called geographical advantage
Singapore has it
UAE has it

nothing you can do to change it
Rubbish.
Your only valid point there is population.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:53am On Aug 10, 2017
diadem10:
What's this one saying? What if the British built Lagos seaport? Was it from oil produce or cocoa? Before the exploration of oil, Who was the largest source of NG revenues if not the SW for their Cocoa, Timber, Limestones and Palm.. Abi dis one dey mad ni..

Btw, Ondo has huge oil in abundance. In fact, it has the second largest oil reserves after Canada. You should worry about your landlocked red mud SE first!
When did the British tell you the source of their capital for building Lagos ports? The SW was the richest region in the country in the colonial era, but it was never by much. The Eastern region even before oil was not far behind and the fastest developing region in the country and was also a major source of colonial trade.

Ondo is a minor player just like Imo and Abia in oil production. Largest oil reserves after Canada? What cheap weed are you smoking. grin And you're asking if I'm the mad one?

I won't be dragged into your childish insults. This was a contentious, but largely mature thread, but the kids are never far away unfortunately.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by bakynes(m): 9:58am On Aug 10, 2017
The truth is that the SW is at advantage in some things over the rest of Nigeria.

If you look at it the coastline, the Lagos port can travel through the North of Africa to Europe which is more closer to Nigeria than a ship travelling from the SS through the Gulf of Guinea to Europe which will have to pass through many countries water ways to Europe coupled with the fact the Gulf of Guinea is full of sea pirates in the Somali Coastline so it is more preferable to import through Lagos and even when exporting the ship will go through the SW to Europe and America.

Same reason why the Lagos Airport is more preferable .

All the Eastern ports were majorly created for export not imports.Calabar Port was created by the British for export of Coal from Enugu and that of Onne and Warri was for Crude oil export.

Importing through those port will naturally have higher freight cost than Lagos ports which is much more closer to Europe.

Just like Accra and Lome ports have lower freight quotes and cost than Lagos. Even some importer prefer to import through Accra and Lome and then use road to bring into Nigeria before the Buhari Govt closed the Land borders.

SW is geographically blessed and at advantage so no need Hating direct your complaints to Baba God.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Obi1kenobi(m): 10:04am On Aug 10, 2017
Omofunaab2:
Ogun state IGR surpasses that of the entire south east, Ogun state is the industrial and mining capital of the country.

Ondo state has huge deposits of bitumen, besides its oil exceeds that of Imo and Abia combined
You missed the part where I said Ogun would be in recession, but is in far better position than other SW states bar Lagos and the part I said it has a promising future with spillover investments from a saturated Lagos. But let's not kid ourselves, they're heavily dependent on Federal allocations and they've surprisingly had fiscal issues and needed an FG bailout.

Ondo regardless of its minerals (many states have untapped or underexploited mineral resources) will struggle massively. To me, every single Northern state, every SE state, every SW state, bar Lagos, and SS states like Edo and Cross River would struggle to achieve viability if weaned of the teat of Federal allocations and we ran a true American-style Federal system with states as federations units.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by bakynes(m): 10:04am On Aug 10, 2017
Obi1kenobi:
When did the British tell you the source of their capital for building Lagos ports? The SW was the richest region in the country in the colonial era, but it was never by much. The Eastern region even before oil was not far behind and the fastest developing region in the country and was also a major source of colonial trade.

Ondo is a minor player just like Imo and Abia in oil production. Largest oil reserves after Canada? What cheap weed are you smoking. grin And you're asking if I'm the mad one?

I won't be dragged into your childish insults. This was a contentious, but largely mature thread, but the kids are never far away unfortunately.
My friend I have respected your comments so far but don't be ignorant. Ondo Oil reserves in form of Bitumen(Oil sand) is truly the second largest next to Canada just that the cost of mining and refining Oil sands is more expensive and technical than the regular crude oil.

Canada have the technology that's why they have more Oil reserves than Nigeria. If the Oil sand in Ondo should be mined they will surpass the rest of Nigeria.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Obi1kenobi(m): 10:09am On Aug 10, 2017
bakynes:
My friend I have respected your comments so far but don't be ignorant. Ondo Oil reserves in form of Bitumen(Oil sand) is truly the second largest next to Canada just that the cost of mining and refining Oil sands is more expensive and technical than the regular crude oil.

Canada have the technology that's why they have more Oil reserves than Nigeria. If the Oil sand in Ondo should be mined they will surpass the rest of Nigeria.
He said largest oil reserves after Canada. Bitumen while related to crude is not crude oil. Simple. And has nothing like the same economic yield and importance as crude oil or natural gas.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by bakynes(m): 10:12am On Aug 10, 2017
Obi1kenobi:
You missed the part where I said Ogun would be in recession, but is in far better position than other SW states bar Lagos and the part I said it has a promising future with spillover investments from a saturated Lagos. But let's not kid ourselves, they're heavily dependent on Federal allocations and they've surprisingly had fiscal issues and needed an FG bailout.

Ondo regardless of its minerals (many states have untapped or underexploited mineral resources) will struggle massively. To me, every single Northern state, every SE state, every SW state, bar Lagos, and SS states like Edo and Cross River would struggle to achieve viability if weaned of the teat of Federal allocations and we ran a true American-style Federal system with states as federations units.
Don't be Ignorant once again my friend Nigeria will not attain full resource control if other regions Mineral resources do not commence their own Mining operations.

So you expect the rest of Nigeria to just let SS seceded away from Nigeria after the entire country allowed the SS oil to be explored, drilled and produced at their own expense.

The blame is on the successive govt for ignoring other mineral resources in other regions and focusing on the Niger delta areas.

So don't expect the country to break up peaceful if the rest of the country have not began their own mining operations.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by bakynes(m): 10:14am On Aug 10, 2017
Obi1kenobi:
He said largest oil reserves after Canada. Bitumen while related to crude is not crude oil. Simple. And has nothing like the same economic yield and importance as crude oil or natural gas.
What is Canada using as their own Petrol and fuel is it not Bitumen. You can get end products such as Petrol and diesel from Bitumen but it is more expensive to mine and technological driven than the Crude oil.

Reason why Nigeria cannot afford to go the route of Canada because they want the fast and easy route.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Markfemi: 10:32am On Aug 10, 2017
Ekinematics:
Rubbish.
Your only valid point there is population.
Buhaa painment
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