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Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hahn(m): 2:06pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Bolaji21: First of all you cannot be angry at something that doesn't exist. Secondly, I cannot be angrier than something that proposes to burn billions of people in hell while it chills in paradise Well, he's still your creator and you're his creature. You can't change that. Really? Tell me something If you feel the inventors of gun powder are to blame for world War 1&2, it's your choice. No. YOur god is to blame because it sat back and watched millions of people die despite it's foreknowledge and did nothing to save them. What a Arrow! And if you feel the German chemist who discovered uranium is to blame for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings too, it's your choice. Man has always been known to instinctively shift blame to others. And your god has always been known to do nothing about it |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Bolaji21(m): 2:09pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:You're the one that's been emotional by gloating and mocking something you claim doesn't exist. It's just like me saying Ogres don't exist and still spending my whole life online on ogre websites, mocking. As I said earlier, if your intention is mere sarcasm, there's no need of mentioning me. Just get at it. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Bolaji21(m): 2:16pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
hahn: I'll leave that to the readers to decide. hahn: You seem confused. You just claimed it's impossible to get angry at something non-existent. Now you're saying you're not as angry as the non-existent God. hahn:A non-existent God should have helped the world War. You need to take a stand. Are you confused about the non-existent God or confused as to why the existent God didn't intervene in world War 1&2. Cos I'm not sure how to answer you, since your original claim is that He doesn't exist. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hopefulLandlord: 2:22pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Bolaji21: I mock the "idea", you're free to judge my emotions anyhow you like YOU claimed to know what the viewers are thinking and I'm challenging you on how you "know", refer to the post and see and No! my intention is never mere sarcasm but if you can't stand a mix of sarcasm and serious points in posts then I'll stop quoting you, honestly I can't stand discussing with you if you can't so the feeling is mutual |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Ranchhoddas: 2:24pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
butterflylion:Stop putting words in my mouth. No where did I say or imply that "anywhere in the world" nonsense that you have come up with. It is your usual manner of inventing an argument so you can defeat it. Value is subjective. So is price. Neymar is worth 225 million to PSG. We know he's worth far less to Arsenal. The buyer will only pay for a product what he thinks it is worth (value affecting price). You have realized your folly so the next thing is to start saying things I have not said. Well done. 4 Likes |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hahn(m): 2:25pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Bolaji21: It is real to you, is it not? This situation is similar to when you are chatting with a kid about the toothfairy. You know it is not real but still tell the kid that it will come and put money under his/her pillow even when you know you are the one who will do it. A non-existent God should have helped the world War. You need to take a stand. Are you confused about the non-existent God or confused as to why the existent God didn't intervene in world War 1&2. Cos I'm not sure how to answer you, since your original claim is that He doesn't exist. Look. Read carefully I KNOW your god does not exist but since we are discussing and you actually believe that it does I have to discuss like it exists. Understand? So, now is your god responsible for the evil that happens on earth or not? Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Bolaji21(m): 2:27pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Good, now you admit that your emotions are involved. That's settled. hopefulLandlord: I don't know how to help you figure that out. But it's not hard for an average thinker that has gone through your previous posts. hopefulLandlord:Well, you've not raised any valid point since. You're just merigorounding. |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hopefulLandlord: 2:33pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Bolaji21:Hahahahahahahahaha, this is funny to do what? I say your god idea doesn't make sense! and you interpreted it as me wishing it away lol "average thinker" Indeed
my point is that people who criticise your god idea don't necessarily hate it!, you've not challenged this and you're only committing the fallacy of "proof by assertion" and equivocating 2 Likes |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by butterflylion: 2:36pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: Hahahahahahahaha you are now jumping to my camp in confusion. These are your comments earlier This is circular reasoning in line with the theory of subjective value. I already explained that. You also said : ]. That is a general statement and implies the value of Neymar is same worldwide but now you switch to my camp after I showed you your error by saying the below Neymar is worth 225 million [b]to PSG. We know he's worth far less to Arsenal. Now you agree that value is relative and value sometimes does not need to be paid for. VALUE CAN BE GOTTEN FOR FREE! you did not even know when you changed your song and joined me in my chorus See guy I have educated you enough and I believe you have also unconsciously taken to this education based on your shift all of a sudden. VALUE IS NOT LINKED TO PRICE AND VALUE CAN BE GOTTEN FOR FREE! VALUE DOES NOT ALWAYS NEED TO BE PAID FOR! PRICE IS SELF SATISFACTORY AND NOT GENERAL. VALUE MAY HAVE A PRICE TAG, MAY BE UNABLE TO BE QUANTIFIED AND MAY ALSO BE GOTTEN FOR FREE. all this is relative to who it is valuable to. Bye for now! 1 Like |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Bolaji21(m): 2:41pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
hahn: I don't know how to help you bro. Who's the kid in the above? You? hahn:Okay hahn:He's not responsible for all. hahn:This proves he's God. Let me give you that verse in a simpler English. (EasyEnglish) I made the light and I *created the dark. I cause people to do well and I *create trouble. I am the *LORD. I do all those things.’ Does that mean He's behind every trouble? No. There's a difference between "I create trouble" and "I'm behind every trouble". |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Ranchhoddas: 2:43pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
butterflylion:In the context of this discussion, "free" is also a price tag. Transactions of value can take place without money exchanging hands. An example is free transfers in football. Guy give it up. |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Nobody: 2:44pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
hahn:Your mind isn't open yet.When you are ready I will give you details |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Bolaji21(m): 2:50pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: I'm glad to have made you laugh. hopefulLandlord: There's freedom to laugh if that's the best way to dodge. hopefulLandlord:My point is that why do people spend the whole of their time online trying to prove the non-existent of a God that doesn't exist? Your philosophical classification of this doesn't fit and you're the one that hasn't been consistent in your argument. Mind you, check our previous posts here and bring out where I asserted HATE. Also, this is the first time you're stating your point clearly. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hahn(m): 2:54pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: Lol |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by butterflylion: 2:54pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: Sorry bro but free is NEVER a price tag. Price is linked to A SALE. free is not a sale but a give away! If transactions of value can take place that means something was given in exchange for another and in the case of free transfers it only occurs when a player's contract is over and the club does not wish to renew. In other words the club saw no further VALUE in the player so chose to GIVE HIM AWAY due to the fact they no longer have a contract with him. The New team who SEES VALUE in the released player now sign a new contract with him so to the player and receiving club it isn't free Afterall but to the releasing club it is free. You are the one to give it up because I have shown you analytically how erroneous you have been throughout this argument and also shown you when and how you suddenly began singing my own song. |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hopefulLandlord: 2:55pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Bolaji21: hmmm my bad, I confused anger with hate, "Angry with it" would've been a better phrase anyways, I have been through this a lot before and if you went through my previous posts like you said you would've seen me post it many times, perhaps you missed them here https://www.nairaland.com/3397707/best-atheist-quotes-nairaland#50058064 https://www.nairaland.com/3584339/see-how-atheists-minds-imprisoned#52990273 https://www.nairaland.com/3535066/take-gospel-story-quiz-prove/8#52421512 |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hahn(m): 2:55pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Bolaji21: Lol. This your interpretation no be here. NO wonder there are over 30,000 denominations of your religion. Y'all are confused 1 Like |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Bolaji21(m): 3:03pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
hahn:It's not interpretation like you mean it, the English is glaring. If you're interested, you can check all the available translations online and even the Greek version. This doesn't require any exegesis for you figure out if you want to. You brought the scripture yourself. I make toothbrush is different from I am responsible for all toothbrushes in your home. Is it that hard to figure out? @bolded, is that your new location to dodge? 1 Like |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Ranchhoddas: 3:05pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
butterflylion:Context Context Context Anyway, whatever helps you sleep at night. Signing out. |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by butterflylion: 3:12pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: Not context but reality. Go and read up on free transfers in football and you would see how ignorant you were to even use it as an example. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN PLEASE GIVE THAT FELLA A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. HE CAME HE LEARNED AND HE WENT AWAY! 1 Like |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Ranchhoddas: 3:17pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
butterflylion:I'm leaving because I've seen you are like the doctor. Una no dey tire. You can have the last word now. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by butterflylion: 3:26pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: Which doctor? You are leaving because you know you came unprepared and ignorant of a lot of things you brought to the table. So much so that you had no choice but to join my chorus unknowingly Anyway the applause has been given for your ability to at least subconsciously learn. Astalavista men! |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hahn(m): 3:42pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Bolaji21: But when I say I make toothbrushes, I know what a toothbrush will do tomorrow before it even does it then I should be held responsible when someone gets a teeth infection from using my toothbrush, right? |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Bolaji21(m): 3:44pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
hahn:Yes, if it was my toothbrush that was used. In this case, it's highly uncertain cos I'm not the only maker of toothbrush. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hahn(m): 3:45pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Bolaji21: Just as it is highly certain your god is not the only one who created humans? |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Bolaji21(m): 4:00pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
hahn:You see, you've missed the point. We're on the creation/making of trouble/disaster from the Bible verse you quoted. Let me refresh your memory. You brought this verse of the Bible. hahn:Then I helped you understand it bolaji21: You then asked hahn: To which I replied bolaji21: Now, at what point did the creation of humans enter this? 1 Like |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hahn(m): 4:27pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Bolaji21: The same point you decided to bring a toothbrush maker into the discussion |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Bolaji21(m): 4:48pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
hahn:Sorry, I can't help you follow a conversation. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by obisco4u: 7:06pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Heaven is really going to be boring. I mean after singing for a year I will get tired of it. Lots of ugly ladies will be there surely since the pretty ones might end up in hell as claimed by christians. No tv, no internet, no SEX, no beach parties, no meat, chicken, fish, no falling in love etc. The only person to fall in love with is Jesus. No fvcking way! |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hahn(m): 7:23pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Bolaji21: Yawns |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by Bolaji21(m): 7:41pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
hahn:Well, that's an easy escape. Have a lovely night. |
Re: What Does Heaven Have To Offer? by hahn(m): 7:49pm On Aug 29, 2017 |
Bolaji21: Your chats are boring bro And it is ironic how you keep placing your confusion on me Bye |
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