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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by hatedisplace: 8:18am On Sep 29, 2017
WrathOfHadez:
A language is only sustainable by its relevance. Never by compulsion.

Making it compulsory will only make students engage it as a mere academic exercise and relegate it for examination marks only.

Same thing happened when itsekiri was lumped into our curriculum in primary schools in Warri then. Most of us thereafter can't make a simple sentence in that language today .

Does the Yoruba language need this legislative fiat of compulsion? No.

Smacks of desperation.
true talk

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by Sweetguy25: 8:19am On Sep 29, 2017
Useless bill. You can't force such silly laws on schools. No reasonable school should obey this absurd law

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by Nobody: 8:27am On Sep 29, 2017
Unfortunately it is hampered by the FACT that History and Culture has been removed from the curriculum, how do you teach Language without History.. Nigeria is being over-run by stark illiterates in nice suits

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by positivetaught: 8:31am On Sep 29, 2017
ordinarily this would have been a great idea but on a second thought how would the country look like if this is replicated in every state, rather I will suggest that we should develop our own brand of written English based on our local alphabets pronunciations to make learning easier n faster like the Americans e.g we should spell come as "kom", cotton as "kotin",certain as " satin",etc,the English alphabetical sounds individually n when use in words makes the British English complicated n difficult to learn n teach to children unlike our local dialects. I learnt Hausa in primary school in the north within a year I could read n write it fairly based on that knowledge now I can read most Nigerian languages not perfectly but good enough for the speakers of the languages hearing me to understand which I feel is good enough, let's keep sentiments n pride away n do what will aid our rapid advancement for common good.

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by Morenikeji090(m): 8:31am On Sep 29, 2017
I swear am really happy for this bill, Yoruba first lol like how Trump said American first, my fellow Yoruba sisters and brothers let's works and in and we gotta keep our culture safe, we should not allow foreigner language to control our culture, I remember when I told a guy in march dat if I become governor or president I will make sure our language Igbo & Yoruba & Hausa, is very compulsory in our land and our in our educational system, it's a shame for us not to understand how to speak and write our language well, that English will be second language not first anyone that guy argue with me that's not possible I told him then am a Yoruba guy if dat did not work out for me been a president, coz some other culture may not cherish and respect there language and culture, but if I become governor thank God dat gonna meant for my own state,I will make sure I pass d bill to my state the guy said they won't allow me lol but today Lagos state have already want the bill to be passed that shows I know and I want the best for my people.. east & north & south tell your people to follow has well if you don't want it up to you guys, all I know is Yoruba first I must first solve my home problem first before other problem coz life is step by step lol � foreigner really wanna learn our language but we are making them seems like we don't love our culture, I have a reason for saying this my American fiancé really wanna know how to speak Yoruba she is very eager while we that owns the language don't wanna respect it, remember a quote you don't love or respect what you have until you lose so when u lose that's when your brain gonna open up lols

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by zoedew: 8:33am On Sep 29, 2017
TeamSimple:
Best way to go ... Because some schools now see teaching Yoruba language as a waste of time .. Even the British still teaches English as a subject in their classes.

Time was when Chief Bisi Akande put down Yoruba teachers in their numbers. The LSHA can see better and further!
Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by zoedew: 8:36am On Sep 29, 2017
ScotFree:
I just dey laugh. The yoruba they speak everyday and everywhere, even in their dreams,?? It's in the blood stream. No need to worry about preserving it. It's preserved in stone, blood and genes already.

Just say the Government is looking for more money. The Tax isn't enough anymore.

What is legislated is not left to chance. To be proactive is not to leave anything to chance.
Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by verygudbadguy(m): 8:38am On Sep 29, 2017
LordIsaac:
An average home bred Westerner speaks Yoruba-English...hence, that ɓill is useless. grin
It is not enough to speak it. The need to write it down correctly is also paramount. Yoruba language as a subject torchlights some key cultural values and norms that needs to be upheld in our society.

I think it is a welcome development.

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by fr3do(m): 8:39am On Sep 29, 2017
nairanaira12:


No one is forcing non-Westerners to stay

and yet na una dey shout one nigeria pass, shoving ur language down other people's throat

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by Morenikeji090(m): 8:40am On Sep 29, 2017
positivetaught:
ordinarily this would have been a great idea but on a second thought how would the country look like if this is replicated in every state, rather I will suggest that we should develop our own brand of written English based on our local alphabets pronunciations to make learning easier n faster like the Americans e.g we should spell come as "kom", cotton as "kotin",certain as " satin",etc,the English alphabetical sounds individually n when use in words makes the British English complicated n difficult to learn n teach to children unlike our local dialects. I learnt Hausa in primary school in the north within a year I could read n write it fairly based on that knowledge now I can read most Nigerian languages not perfectly but good enough for the speakers of the languages hearing me to understand which I feel is good enough, let's keep sentiments n pride away n do what will aid our rapid advancement for common good.
bro well spoken they won't agree Nigeria like answering superiority the best to learn other culture even if u can't speak yourba, yourba people gonna understand that okay let's go into English
Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by nairanaira12: 8:40am On Sep 29, 2017
fr3do:


and yet na una dey shout one nigeria pass, shoving ur language down other people's throat

If you don't like the language, kindly leave

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by fr3do(m): 8:42am On Sep 29, 2017
nairanaira12:


If you don't like the language, kindly leave

if na by force, secede
but u can't be in a country and institutionalize bigotry.

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by nairanaira12: 8:43am On Sep 29, 2017
fr3do:


if na by force, secede
but u can't be in a country and institutionalize bigotry.

Goan release your oral diarrhoea at lagos house of assembly

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by zoedew: 8:45am On Sep 29, 2017
RussianICBM:


Very easy.
I even thought you wanted to ask something harder like a big complex scientific term.

Some of you actually think Yoruba is a small totally udeveloped language? lol

#adebayofaletionmamind
Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by Klinee: 8:48am On Sep 29, 2017
This is completely nonsense!!!! Majority of lagosians don't understand Yoruba language. But if they must recognize indigenous language, which am in support of it, they should also try to recognize Hausa and Igbo languages too because of their great population in Lagos.

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by YelloweWest: 8:54am On Sep 29, 2017
Good one. Every child growing up in lagos should speak Yoruba.

I'm from Rivers state o

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by hatedisplace: 8:54am On Sep 29, 2017
No language can advance without technology
Chinese language is pulling weight because they invested in technology. Writing language to stay in school will not make the needed difference. Nigeria has nothing to offer technology wise. All this is waste of time, all language will go extinct in Africa, it will only take time.
Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by zoedew: 9:01am On Sep 29, 2017
omoelerin1:
This is nice considering the fact that multicultural status of Lagos is having negative effect on Yoruba language and culture in the state. But I thought Lagos is 'no man's land'.

This is not about the no-man's land but about the UN and indeed universally recognized right of a people group to have their heritage preserved. Many appear unaware that language is the basic heritage of a human being and indeed a people group. #mylanguagemyidentity

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by bakynes(m): 9:04am On Sep 29, 2017
Klinee:
This is completely nonsense!!!! Majority of lagosians don't understand Yoruba language. But if they must recognize indigenous language, which am in support of it, they should also try to recognize Hausa and Igbo languages too because of their great population in Lagos.
I don't think u live in Lagos. Most people in Lagos understand Yoruba even if you choose not to learn or speak the language one way or the other u understand it.

We have told you people no matter how cosmopolitan Lagos is, Lagos is still Yoruba Land.

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by omoelerin1: 9:05am On Sep 29, 2017
zoedew:


This is not about the no-man's land but about the UN and indeed universally recognized right of a people group to have their heritage preserved. Many appear unaware that language is the basic heritage of a human being and indeed a people group. #mylanguagemyidentity
Why is it that Igbo (another major language in Lagos) is not included in the said bill?

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by zoedew: 9:11am On Sep 29, 2017
hatedisplace:
our so called culture can't put food on our table. All languages should be scrapped in Africa because it is the reason for our lack of growth. My opinion.

Wow! Not so my friend. To scrap your language is to lose your identity and get lost in the morass that life can be! It is a one-way ticket to mental slavery. One big reason why slave-descended black Americans are largely about nothing and are not one with African immigrant Americans is because they have lost their identity. They know not the language their forefathers spoke and are left to drift in life.

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by zoedew: 9:12am On Sep 29, 2017
Asidethetruth:
This bill is suspicious

I hope is not targetted at a set of people

Tribalism in full blown outft

#thinkoutofthebox
Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by zoedew: 9:17am On Sep 29, 2017
WrathOfHadez:
A language is only sustainable by its relevance. Never by compulsion.

Making it compulsory will only make students engage it as a mere academic exercise and relegate it for examination marks only.

Same thing happened when itsekiri was lumped into our curriculum in primary schools in Warri then. Most of us thereafter can't make a simple sentence in that language today .

Does the Yoruba language need this legislative fiat of compulsion? No.

Smacks of desperation.

Relevance is a function of usage. A thing ceases to be relevant the moment it is no longer put to use. That exactly is the rason d'etre for the Bill i.e. If nothing is done to stem the tide of the abandonment of the Yoruba language in Lagos State it should soon become irrelevant and unsustainable. Got the point?

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by Bester44(m): 9:18am On Sep 29, 2017
Lovetinz:
I would like to see the Yoruba translation of..
..Wherein and wherefore the prospective customer has with or without proven intent alone or by himself and or in collusion with others...
grin

... Ninu eyi ti, ati niwon igba ti onibara to sese fe maa bami ra oja ni, tabi se alaini erongba nikan, tabi nipa ipinnu ara re, tabi ni ifowosowopo lati se idabaru pelu elomiran...

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by baddosky1: 9:21am On Sep 29, 2017
Asidethetruth:
This bill is suspicious

I hope is not targetted at a set of people

Tribalism in full blown outft

That's it. If this was in the SE, yoruba warlords both jere on NL and in their land will cry foul. A meeting within Igbo communities in Lagos has been held to this effect with parents advised to instruct their wards/children to "tune off" their concentration once a yoruba teacher comes into the class.

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by zoedew: 9:24am On Sep 29, 2017
hatedisplace:
true talk

Hmmmmm. Without passing TOEFL you go nowhere in the bid to access the best of USA education if you are not American.
Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by WrathOfHadez(m): 9:25am On Sep 29, 2017
zoedew:


Relevance is a function of usage. A thing ceases to be relevant the moment it is no longer put to use. That exactly is the rason d'etre for the Bill i.e. If nothing is done to stem the tide of the abandonment of the Yoruba language in Lagos State it should soon become irrelevant and unsustainable. Got the point?

All the French we were made to undergo in secondary schools in Nigeria...how many people remember the language today?

Language is sustainable by culture, power soft or real and influence never by compulsion.

Latin
English
Portuguese
Now Chinese languages were all once global languages learnt for their relevance in the business world, technology and culture.

The Yoruba by their Geopolitical positioning with Lagos as the gateway to Nigeria doesn't need legislative ordinance to maintain the language. 90% of Lagosians speak the language and it's the dominant language in south west even before the English language.

So putting it in a bill is just a waste of legislative time and exercise.
Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by zoedew: 9:28am On Sep 29, 2017
LaEvilIMiss:
Unfortunately it is hampered by the FACT that History and Culture has been removed from the curriculum, how do you teach Language without History.. Nigeria is being over-run by stark illiterates in nice suits

History, good to know, is back. https://www.channelstv.com/2016/10/20/nigeria-restores-history-education-curricula/
Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by bakynes(m): 9:30am On Sep 29, 2017
baddosky1:


That's it. If this was in the SE, yoruba warlords both jere on NL and in their land will cry foul. A meeting within Igbo communities in Lagos has been held to this effect with parents advised to instruct their wards/children to "tune off" their concentration once a yoruba teacher comes into the class.
That's their business if they don't want to learn the language, we will teach our language on our land for our children and for those who want to learn the language for effective communication in the state.

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by UfuomaUN(m): 9:31am On Sep 29, 2017
Of all the problems affecting Nigeria and Lagos State, the lawmakers are more interested in trivialities like this And they all argued Lagos was cosmopolitan.
Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by musicwriter(m): 9:38am On Sep 29, 2017
Beautiful!!.

This type of move is what development is all about. Imagine we have laws in this country, yet a good chunk of our population can't even read it if put in front of them. You can think of it as having a newspaper published in your own language put in front of you to read, but you can't read it, yet you call yourself educated and can read newspapers written in someone else's language- English.

True development can only occur when there's a framework that carries everybody along. That framework is using your own language for knowledge acquisition!. You cannot develop, unless you have a universal language in a society. This's why Japanese, Russians, Chinese, Koreans, e.t.c are better than us. If you were to be a student in either of these countries, your grandmother as long as she can read, can actually read your chemistry or biology textbook and maybe get solution for issues without even telling you.

If this law carried out, in 20 years or sooner, you will actually see a true Yoruba lawyer defending a case in court in Yoruba language. In such a time, everybody would be carried along. You can actually see carpenters, market women, peasants, laborers, in court clearly understanding court proceedings and questioning the legalities of certain issues, like any other so called educated person today. You'll see people making all sort of inputs, not just in judicial process, but challenging clauses and its jurisprudence in their privates, because they'll actually understand what's in the constitution and what's going on between lawyers, juries and the judge.

Therefore, this is the first step to making everybody equal. People would actually understand when they're being cheated. The elitism created by western education would be a thing of the past and we Africans would be ourselves once again.

This's the way to go, and if this carried through I may as well change my nativity to Yoruba, cause I've checked the whole of Africa and this is the only people that are ready.

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Re: Yoruba Language Bill: Lagos Schools Risk N500k Fine, Closure For Non-compliance by zoedew: 9:38am On Sep 29, 2017
positivetaught:
ordinarily this would have been a great idea but on a second thought how would the country look like if this is replicated in every state, rather I will suggest that we should develop our own brand of written English based on our local alphabets pronunciations to make learning easier n faster like the Americans e.g we should spell come as "kom", cotton as "kotin",certain as " satin",etc,the English alphabetical sounds individually n when use in words makes the British English complicated n difficult to learn n teach to children unlike our local dialects. I learnt Hausa in primary school in the north within a year I could read n write it fairly based on that knowledge now I can read most Nigerian languages not perfectly but good enough for the speakers of the languages hearing me to understand which I feel is good enough, let's keep sentiments n pride away n do what will aid our rapid advancement for common good.

I respectfully disagree. First, it is good sense to blend where you live else you become like fish out of water. Second, the language you suggest not having a background in history, culture and tradition is bound to be counter productive with the resultant loss of cultural identity. Take time to look at Afrikaans language in SA. Third, it would lead to people groups scrambling to have their language dominant in the language you suggest because language is about influence. The French forever wish the English language were not this dominant globally. Take it or leave it Britain is this relevant globally because English language is spoken worldwide even by those who pretend not to understand it! Fourth, it should enhance Federalism and political enlightenment and contribute to the reduction of corruption to its barest minimum considering that all politics is local!

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