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supersystemsnig:
Unquote me plz. Flock with your fellow knuckle heads

majekdom2:
that is a wrong thought. There is no successful leader without good followers and vice versa. @ last bolded. This is where many are getting in wrong. submission does not being being subject. are you a subject to your parents, No. are you a subject to God,No. you are a child to your parent but you are submissive, likewise God. you are a subject to a master and a BOSS. it means he can choose to make you suffer for no reason. thats what being subject is. pls have a change of thought. it is natural for a woman to want a stronger partner... why then will you not want to go by the instinct of the stronger partner.

sukkot:
lmao hey do as thou will. all these seeds i have sown in you will germinate at a later date.

selflessmaya:
dude, stfu!!! the problem with african men is y'all want a woman to submit but wont give her reason to let her guard down. white men are not this crazy about submission yet they treat their women as equals ... for your information, miranda kerr was married to orlando bloom, she got divorced and was a single mother. then she married evan spielberg who is 7 yrs younger than her and he is worth $3.3 BILLION .... she has always been an expensive high class call-girl and is a notorious gold-digger, read news of her $8 million jewelry case that was "gifted" to her by a customer, the malaysian billionaire and the other billionaire she tried to finesse... miranda kerr herself is a hard-core feminist, she came to prominence with victoria's secret strutting her stuff on runways dressed in a bra and pant, we have nude editorial pics of her, slay queens haven't even gotten to her slay! level. it's all there on the internet. yet a billionaire overlooked the 7yrs older gap, being a divorcee, past gold-digging hustle life, being a single mother, being photographed in undies for a career and married her... u know why? cos white men dont think like u. a woman is not commodity to them, they see the humanity in them irrespective and they're not looking for a slave to submit to them.

now the problem with black men like u, u want a miranda kerr, right? ... do u have "i can afford miranda kerr money"? no! do u have 'i can overlook a miranda kerr life choices and live with it' capacity? no! do u have a "miranda kerr is not submisive and is an independent woman and i support that" attitude? no! do u have a "this is how a miranda kerr should be treated, miranda is too pretty to touch anything, her hands are delicate and must be massaged not scrubbing floors" mindset? no!.. i find it weird that white men who actually have more to offer, always require less from a woman. you are comparing nigerian women to miranda kerr but u have never compared the husbands of nigerian women to miranda kerr's husband. u just want to hold women to standards u cant keep up with. black men are fond of this nonsense, they're the ones who want to be worshiped but have never given their women anything to submit to, how can i submit to a man when i am picking cotton, with my 2 day old bby i just had in a dirty shed 2 nights ago strapped to my back, under the sun, with "my husband i should submit to" picking cotton right next to me, a whip can fall on me and my baby and the "man i submit to" cant do sh!t. what kind of a heartless being would require submission from a woman who needs her defiance, strong will and refusal to bend to anything life brings to survive?

these women are thriving cos they refuse to submit to the pressures and hardship, yet a stupid man wants to crack those walls she has built so he can feel special while simultaneously not getting rid of the hardship that is causing her to keep her will strong and bow to no man. if u want a human to submit to u, then u must be a god, now, answer her prayers!!! or dont murmur when she finally decides to harden and fight for a good life for herself and kids since you wont do that much. YOU, MY niqqa, DO NOT EVEN HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO GET OR KEEP A MIRANDA KERR, SO WHY ARE U WORRIED THAT THERE IS NO MIRANDA KERR AROUND? bish bye.

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we've heard chris and dami's story since god knows when and now he's saying "she wasn't submissive" when the news for years has been that she's been unhappy with his finances & career that didnt quite take off as they both hoped and can we all refresh our memories with the rumors of his cheating? if he did say this, then he can choke on his own vomit.. dami must have seen some sh!t with this heffa cos she really wanted out and she didnt mud-sling first. so that's dignity right there. "as a woman u need to trust the captain of your ship" hahhaha... what do we call a woman who boarded a ship and the captain suddenly died on the wheels, she saw a parachute but did not jump out and went down with the ship? we call that a dumb bish! chris must have been shook when she signed those papers. yimu.

ibkayee:
I sha want a partnership, not a 'leader', though there's nothing wrong with that type of arrangement if both people are ok with it and are actually keeping to their part of the bargain. Problem is when the people fixated on their women being submissive aren't doing the work to actually deserve it.

I wonder if they'd set this dynamic from the beginning or if he was hoping she'd change once they'd married. Anyway submission is subjective, I don't know exactly what his version of it is

thesuave10:
Supersystemsnig. You see this guy. In as much as he is using too much God which clearly shows lack of depth he is still smarter than you because he is confident what he is saying. He has reasoned in his own mind . you're afraid to answer questions because you haven't reasoned and don't want to be wrong. See how he has easily and confidently answered.


Now sukkot, why are asked that question. So if you agree that " a spirit " can send people to clubs for different reasons, what if some of those reasons are not immoral like you're claiming they all are

supersystemsnig:
you're my kid. take your lousy seeds away, before you know soul purification, i've gone thru the refinement phase....go enlighten your peers

Gwaihir:
I don't think there is any problem with that, as far as both parties can compromise, understand and be patient for each other without it getting heated or a need for a back and forth. I think that is mainly why people are harping on the submissive part.

selflessmaya:
[size=11p[s]t]dude, stfu!!! the problem with african men is y'all want a woman to submit but wont give her reason to let her guard down. white men are not this crazy about submission yet they treat their women as equals ... for your information, miranda kerr was nmarried to orlando bloom and she got divorced and was a single mother. then she married evan spielberg who is 7 yrs younher than her and he is worth $3.3 BILLION .... she has new of her expensive escorting and is a notorious gold-digger, read news of her $8 million jewelry case that was "gifted" to her by a customer, the malaysian billionaire and the other billionaire she tried to finesse... miranda kerr herself is a hard-core feminist, she came to prominence with victoria's secret strutting her stuff on runways dressed in a bra and pant, we have nude editorial pics of her, slay queens haven't even gotten to her slay! level. it's all there on the internet. yet a billionaire overlooked the 7yrs older gap, being a divorcee, past gold-digging hustle life, being a single mother, being photographed in undies for a career and married her... u know why? cos white men dont think like u. woman is not commodity to them, they see the humanity in them irrespective and they're not looking for a person to submit to them.

now the problem with black men like u, u want a miranda kerr, right? ... do u have "i can afford miranda kerr money"? no ... do u have 'i can overlook a miranda kerr life choices and live with it' capacity? no! .... do u have a "miranda kerr is not submisive and is and independent woman and i support that" attitude? no do u have a "this is how a miranda kerr should be treated, miranda is too pretty to touch anything, her hands are delicate and must be massaged not scrubbing floors" mindset? no .... i find it weird that white men who actually have more to offer, always require less from a woman. you are comparing nigerian women to miranda kerr but u have never compared the husbands of nigerian women to miranda kerr's husband. u just want to hold women to standards u cant keep up with. black men are fond of this nonsense, they're the ones who want to be worshiped so far but have never given their women anything to submit to, how can i submit to a man when i am picking cotton, with my 2 day old bby i just had in a dirty shed 2 nights ago strapped to my back, under the sun, with "my husband i should submit to" picking cotton right next to me, a whip can fall on me and my baby and said "man i submit to" cant do sh!t. what kind of a heartless being would require submission from a woman who needs her defiance, strong will and refusal to bend to anything life brings?
these women are surviving cos they refuse to submit to the pressures and hardship, yet a stupid man wants to crack those walls she has built so he can feel special while simultaneously not getting rid of the hardship that is causing her to keep her will strong and bow to no man. YOU, MY niqqa, DO NOT EVEN HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO GET OR KEEP A MIRANDA KERR, SO WHY ARE U WORRIED THAT THERE IS NO MIRANDA KERR AROUND? bish bye.

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we've heard chris and dami's story since god knows when and now he's saying "she wasn't submissive" when the news for years has been that she's been unhappy with his finances & career that didnt quite take off as they both hoped and can we all refresh our memories with the rumors of his cheating? if he did say this, then he can choke on his own vomit.. dami must have seen some sh!t with this heffa cos she really wanted out and she didnt mud-sling first. so that's dignity right there. "as a woman u need to trust the captain of your ship" hahhaha... what do we call a woman who boarded a ship and the captain suddenly died on the wheels, she saw a parachute but did not jump out and went down with the ship? we call that a dumb bish! chris must have been shook when she signed those papers. yimu.[/s] [/size]

sukkot:
Yes GOD done punish me well well and in that purification and refinement did I gain wisdom. you have to go to hell before you get to heaven

sukkot:
there is no debasement in being your kid. question is are you a good father ?

supersystemsnig:
But you know if you ladies aren't well in sync, you have your ways. Anyway, most young men thesedays want a partnership, an arrangement where the leader is still involved as the man. Hence, the need for submissiveness to this arrangement, not submissiveness of not having a say, voice or will, but that the will of the woman is represented in the decisions of the captain...

sukkot:
well I didnt say 100 percent of people who go to clubs are immoral. there are people sent there by their spirits on different missions. however i will say about 99 percent are just carnal immoral lustful empty beings looking for ways to fill up their empty lives

and yes you can on rare occasions find a good wife in a club. it has been done. nothing is absolute

So then why have you been judging with the club thing as your case?

supersystemsnig:
I don't fight people that have a contrary stance from me in life never, you idn't follow the sequence and see how they were trying to beat me up. I'm simply defending myself and not justifying my positions. I don't believe in being absolute in life, and believe in learning from people and allowing people sharpen my countenance. This was my stance, but they immediately took on me, so i decided to put these kids in their place...

supersystemsnig:
The first kid i trained is in 200 level in a university, a choir leader, a christian. I've mentored over 23 in different parts of the globe doing fine, they come down from their cars, prostrate... You want me to roll out my CV?

thesuave10:
So then why have you been judging with the club thing as your case?

sukkot:
because the men are wicked. GOD does not give wicked men submissive women. they will take advantage of her. in life you are blessed with what you give out. the energy and aura you effuse is what is returned unto thee. wicked man ? strong head woman. na so the cosmos dey do am

ibkayee:
Lol it goes both ways my guy, men aren't perfect either. Lol like I said, it's up to the couple to set the dynamic they're comfortable with (whatever that is, it will differ) and keep to whatever their part of the bargain is and also, let's be honest, a lot of Nigerian men's ideas of being submissive aren't always as civil and 'collaborative' as you've put it, so I can see why women would be averse to it.

Also don't expect the person to change if that's not how you met them. As for Chris and Dami I don't know what exactly happened with them

Gwaihir:
Hmm, bros that sounds like affliction not punishment. I think the Sodom.and Gomorrah na the main punishment i dey talk.

sukkot:
well that is quite a resume. however question is are you giving them the right knowledge ? are you giving them the right food ? because going by what i am seeing here I doubt you are giving them good nourishment. i am afraid you may be feeding them GMO

sukkot:
I was just making a point with the club thing. I dont make absolute statements. nothing is absolute. there will always be aberrations and exceptions

This is why your entire case has been a flaw like I was trying to point out to you .fallacies up and down

anonyguy:
My cumming session last longer than this celebrities marriage

ibkayee:
I sha want a partnership, not a 'leader', though there's nothing wrong with that type of arrangement if both people are ok with it and are actually keeping to their part of the bargain.

Problem is when the people fixated on their women being submissive aren't doing the work to actually deserve it.

I wonder if they'd set this dynamic from the beginning or if he was hoping she'd change once they'd married. Anyway submission is subjective, I don't know exactly what his version of it is

supersystemsnig:
leave me plz. You've known GMO now, you're smart eh...

Sterope:
Like a man who is not financially responsible but expects his wife to trust in him because he is the head of the family... People and their jokes

I admit I don't understand the word in the context of marriage. I understand that there are times when you go with everything he says but it is beyond comprehension to expect an adult to say ‘yes' to everything and be comfortable with someone else having his way all the time. I may understand submission in a business relationship but marriage with all its familiarity...Nope.

I might actually understand it the day my parents and I stop disagreeing.

Sterope:
Like a man who is not financially responsible but expects his wife to trust in him because he is the head of the family... People and their jokes

I admit I don't understand the word in the context of marriage. I understand that there are times when you go with everything he says but it is beyond comprehension to expect an adult to say ‘yes' to everything and be comfortable with someone else having his way all the time. I may understand submission in a business relationship but marriage with all its familiarity...Nope.

I might actually understand it the day my parents and I stop disagreeing.

thesuave10:
This is why your entire case has been a flaw like I was trying to point out to you .fallacies up and down

Gwaihir:
You are so wrong, life is often the other way. These days God is rarely involved or sought after in issues of marriage.

ibkayee:
I sha want a partnership, not a 'leader', though there's nothing wrong with that type of arrangement if both people are ok with it and are actually keeping to their part of the bargain. Problem is when the people fixated on their women being submissive aren't doing the work to actually deserve it.

I wonder if they'd set this dynamic from the beginning or if he was hoping she'd change once they'd married. Anyway submission is subjective, I don't know exactly what his version of it is

supersystemsnig:
If a man goes to work, where will he have the strength to beat up a woman after work? Many men are jobless, urfortunately they have scarred marriage and have bastardized the instituition

supersystemsnig:
I believe you my dear. But when we younger generation use the term submissive, we imply cooperative and collaborative... i.e. team player...and when the babe makes sense, she can get even more free role, i.e. no need to take permission when we've trusted that whatever role she takes is ultimately for our mutual benefit. The problem is fear itself. Our communicative vehicle i.e. language has been bastardized with fears, insecurities and mistrust. We'all waiting to bail, whatever happened to build it and make it work?

About change, anyone not ready to make some changes isn't ready for a relationship let alone a marriage.

Blessed96:
If you wait for all the perfect lines you'll seldom get there. everyone has a shortcoming, the ability to manage is what make you the leader!