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The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 11:27am On Nov 03, 2017 |
If heaven is so lovely and good and the Christian is a true believer, and any cessation of his life takes him there, what sense then exists when he celebrates missing it? If this world is full of evil and owned by Satan or the devil, why should we rejoice when we miss an opportunity to leave this place? Is it that we do not really believe what we practise or that we don’t understand it well enough? Is it because we want to gain all that is on this earth before going to heaven? If that is so, wouldn’t that amount to the materialism this faith we profess is calling against? What exactly can be derived from our fear of death? Is it that natural aspect of the being that cannot be overshadowed even by the most powerful knowledge and entity in our world? Full article at http://www.mortalpoet.com/the-fear-of-death/ |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 10:31am On Nov 05, 2017 |
Thoughts |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by hopefulLandlord: 10:41am On Nov 05, 2017 |
Why are Christians avoiding this thread? 2 Likes |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 11:24am On Nov 05, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Not just Christians. Even atheists are avoiding it. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by hopefulLandlord: 11:25am On Nov 05, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality:what has your OP got to do with us? 2 Likes |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by adepeter2027(m): 11:32am On Nov 05, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Lmao |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by GasAndOilTheory(m): 11:44am On Nov 05, 2017 |
An experience i had while travling to Auchi from Benin 3 months ago... Long story short, so i got a bus going to auchi and at the back was a pastor who announced to the other passengers that "we should commit this journey into the hands of GOD". The other people comply but me being WHO I AM just giggled and continued with playing PES on my phone. The guy sittin beside me started acting anyhow, i guess he is a staunch christian or must have been the pastor's apprentist. I ignored him. 30 minutes into the journey while the pastor continued to preach about end time and the need to submit to christ because no one knows when death will come, something unexpected happened. We almost had an head on collision with a truck carrying onions. Quickly, our dear pastor cashed in on the situation. He said "my people praise the lord.This is exactly what the lord revealed to me in a vision last night" that the lord told him nothing will happen. That we have conqured any form of accident 4 Likes |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by GasAndOilTheory(m): 12:12pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
So we continued the trip and his sermon. Most people were tired of his talks but couldn't tell him to please stop maybe because of the fear of being tagged an atheist or unbeliever. An hour later our vehicle was hit by a stupid never do well man that was over speeding and trying to over take our bus at a bend.It was late before the mad driver realised there was a car fast approaching on the opposite lane. He swerved back to the right lane and before u could say "JACK ROBBINSON SAVE US" our bus sumersulted twice like Obafemi Martins. I was the second person to jump out through the window, our pastor was the first person. Everybody wan go heaven but nobody wan die. Till today ehen, it still baffles me no one died in that bus But please note that the fear of death is instinctive. Pastors will preach about heaven but when the chance to die comes, they run like Usain Bolt. This reminds me of the catholic priest who hid behind the alter while the church members where being killed 2 Likes |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 2:48pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Does it really has something to do with the atheist before he responds? |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by hopefulLandlord: 2:49pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality: most times yes |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 5:19pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:So why won't Atheists respond to this? And what do you mean by 'most times, yes?'. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by hopefulLandlord: 6:00pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality: most times we respond when it has something to do with us and sometimes we may grace a thread even when it has nothing to do with us I'm just helping you bump your thread with my posts here |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 6:59pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Your use of 'we' is fascinating. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 7:01pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
GasAndOilTheory:Is it instinctive or subject to learning? Look at the suicide bombers. No fear because they received a learning, whether erroneous or not, that saw death as a gateway to something great. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Nobody: 8:47pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
There is nothing after death and the fear most ppl have on it should be eliminated through awareness. But fear of dying is an instinct behavior. It's magnitude may differ from person to person and from time to time. Hormones affect this fear. For example, I was very depressed that my fear of dying was low that I sliced my left neck (I could touch my throats and carotid artery) with out hesitation about 9 months ago. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by GasAndOilTheory(m): 9:03pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality:i still insist that the fear of death is instinctive that's why the sucide bomber goes through a process of "learning not to fear death". lets use a human being as a case study. When he touches a candle flame, what will make him withdrawl his finger ? Is it that he was taught he should withdrawl his finger or responded to a prompt from within ? |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by spongeisback: 9:07pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Seriously! A Christian even threatened me with death this evening 1 Like |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:15pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
LISTEN DEATH HAS KNOW RIGHT IN THE LIFE OF A BELIEVER... I CAN'T FEAR SOMETHING DEATH... IN CHRIST, I HAVE DOMINION OVER DEATH AND NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 9:29pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
GasAndOilTheory:What makes him withdraw is the uneasiness resulting from pain and not some fear of death. Toddlers don't even understand what death is to fear it. They do things that could result in their death until they grow enough to see and learn that life shouldn't be toiled with. They were not born with an innate fear of death. Today what we call instincts are human constructs. If you know there's a higher place, if you strongly see there's something higher than the current, then your instincts wouldn't antagonise them. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by GasAndOilTheory(m): 5:12am On Nov 06, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality: 1.Uneasiness from too much pain leads to death 1.I never used a toddler as a case study rather human being. 2.I used a sucide bomber to explain a hypothetical scenario. 3.Dear OP do you even know the meaning of instinct ? 4.I believe in science so do a little research on instinct then do a research on death.You'd understand better. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Martinez19(m): 9:22am On Nov 06, 2017 |
The process of dying is scary as Bleep. 1 Like |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 9:26am On Nov 06, 2017 |
GasAndOilTheory:Even lack of pain leads to death. And uneasiness as a result of pain does not translate to the fear of pain. Some fear pain but embrace death. So your first point is not valid. You didn't use a suicide bomber, it was me who gave the example of a suicide bomber. Even at that, I don't even see how using to explain a hypothetical scenario explains anything. What research did you do to arrive at that? I am telling you that no matter the research done, a human being who strongly believes he is going to a better place cannot be scared of going to that place. We've seen it in men seeking for 7 or so virgins in paradise. In people who have lost hope in life and eloped. In people who have transcended in and out of the other dimensions. Give me something strong. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 9:30am On Nov 06, 2017 |
Hati13:I think it is the fear of harm and pain that is an hormonal. The fear of death was taught and learned. That's why the suicide bomber can be taught to love death. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by joshnes(m): 12:00pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Op, if I get you, you are of the opinion that christians should not be afraid of death? and to that I say a big yes. But this doesn't mean when you have a chance to save yourself from death, you shouldn't, that would amount to foolishness and/or suicide. There are people who counted their lives nothing because of the gospel. Many old apostles who refused to save themselves by denying Christ, died at the stake, were beheaded, killed by wild animals why? because they knew to die (for Christ) "....is gain" (Phil 1:21). But to just die anyhow, it is not God's will at all (Ps 91: 16). |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Nobody: 12:16pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality:That what I said. Fear of dying (the process) is instinct, but fear of death can be taught to eliminate it. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by hadow(m): 1:07pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality:I guess u haven't met a true Christian, true christians are not afraid of death, in fact we actually see it as a/an honour to die especially during service to God, or why do u think missionaries leave their comfort zone to go to troubled areas or areas where there is no active propagation of the gospel risking their lives "carrying their cross" just to ensure people get saved, have u ever heard of the Moravians these are people who even sold themselves out as slaves just to preach the gospel(google them for more info), don't u remember d story of Steven who stood fearless in d face of death acts8 |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 2:12pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Hati13:If it is instinct how come children and babies are not scared of dying until they grow and taught so? Shouldn't be experienced from the very beginning? Is that not a sign that it was learned? |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by Sapiosexuality(m): 2:29pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
hadow:Of course they are Christians without this fear. The unfortunate thing is the majority who, despite the substance of their faith, see death with so much fear and reference. |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by hopefulLandlord: 3:27pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
hadow: calling Christians who fears death as not a "true Christian" is really bizarre |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by hadow(m): 3:45pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:really hopefulLandlord:really |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by hadow(m): 3:46pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:do u even knw what d word christian means |
Re: The Illogical Fear Of Death By The Christian by hopefulLandlord: 3:59pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
hadow: I dunno, you tell me |
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