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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Nobody: 7:17am On Nov 09, 2017
betterABIAstate:
iqaae made in his image, I am a Christian and I will live the life of Jesus, I'm a mini-god because I'm the child of God tjrouvt Jesus, not through tithe.
Pay your tithe my brother. Pay it because your love God. Same Bible say " if you love me you will keep my commandments ". The word of God say love thy lord your God with all your heart,with all your mind with all your soul. It's the summary of the whole chapters in the Bible. How can you love God when you choose to rob him? Why would you think the accuser of the brethren wouldn't fault you for breaking the scriptures?. You think everything is just the blood. It goes beyond that
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Nobody: 7:27am On Nov 09, 2017
betterABIAstate:
so what's christianity if not living the life of Christ, is it too difficult to do that?
Why didn't Jesus speak against tithing if he didn't want us to pay? Yes we look up to Jesus the author of our faith but doesn't mean we shouldn't keep his word. We claim to profess Abrahamic blessing upon our lives yet we don't want to follow his footsteps. We claim to love God yet we choose to select which and which to obey. Didn't the scripture say "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" did it say "some"? Who explains the scriptures more better? Isn't the holy spirit? Are we more better in understanding of the scriptures than God himself who gave his word. My dear go on your kneels and ask the holy spirit if it's right to continue tithing. He will reveal deeper things to you. Don't assume you know it all or because you have being grounded in the word.
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by felixomor: 7:30am On Nov 09, 2017
OkaiCorne:


I hope you know that no religion or ideology under Heaven has total monopoly of the TRUTH.
That is your opinion

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by connectikut89(m): 7:41am On Nov 09, 2017
Gombs:


Tithing was before the law. Get a bible

I talked extensively about this on the first page of this thread. Bro please look it up and refute. There are some unanswered questions in there. Thanks
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 8:13am On Nov 09, 2017
asuustrike2009:

Why didn't Jesus speak against tithing if he didn't want us to pay? Yes we look up to Jesus the author of our faith but doesn't mean we shouldn't keep his word. We claim to profess Abrahamic blessing upon our lives yet we don't want to follow his footsteps. We claim to love God yet we choose to select which and which to obey. Didn't the scripture say "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" did it say "some"? Who explains the scriptures more better? Isn't the holy spirit? Are we more better in understanding of the scriptures than God himself who gave his word. My dear go on your kneels and ask the holy spirit if it's right to continue tithing. He will reveal deeper things to you. Don't assume you know it all or because you have being grounded in the word.
1st, Abraham wasn't a monthly tither.

Secondly, Abraham didn't pay tithe from his increase, he paid from the proceeds of the war.

Thirdly, I'm not living the live of Abraham else can marry my niece.

Fourthly, I'm living by the teaching and life of Jesus, tithe was not included.

Fifthly, you are quoting the bible out of contest, that passage talked about Jesus not seeing tithe to be important

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 8:15am On Nov 09, 2017
asuustrike2009:

Pay your tithe my brother. Pay it because your love God. Same Bible say " if you love me you will keep my commandments ". The word of God say love thy lord your God with all your heart,with all your mind with all your soul. It's the summary of the whole chapters in the Bible. How can you love God when you choose to rob him? Why would you think the accuser of the brethren wouldn't fault you for breaking the scriptures?. You think everything is just the blood. It goes beyond that
I won't pay it because Jesus Christ and the early apostles of the church of Christ didn't ask us to.
I will rather listen to them
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 8:16am On Nov 09, 2017
asuustrike2009:

It goes beyond the blood as some preachers are preaching everywhere. Such preachers if they have the holy spirit in them they wouldn't argue about tithing unnecessarily.
no Sir, Christianity doesn't go beyond the blood of Jesus, Christianity means Christ like and it all about Jesus Christ sir.
Tithing was not included in his teachings
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 8:19am On Nov 09, 2017
Gombs:


Tithing was before the law. Get a bible
Abraham committed adultery before the law, he lied before the law to the king of Egypt.

Abraham committed some sins before the law but it wasn't a sin because there was no law.

There's no sin when there are no laws
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Nobody: 8:44am On Nov 09, 2017
betterABIAstate:
no Sir, Christianity doesn't go beyond the blood of Jesus, Christianity means Christ like and it all about Jesus Christ sir.
Tithing was not included in his teachings
So the scriptures from the beginning to the end was child's play? So the commandments aren't applicable in this dispensation because we're under grace? The scriptures are not for reproof and correction but selective
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Nobody: 8:44am On Nov 09, 2017
betterABIAstate:
I won't pay it because Jesus Christ and the early apostles of the church of Christ didn't ask us to.
I will rather listen to them
Do you give alms and offerings?
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Nobody: 8:46am On Nov 09, 2017
betterABIAstate:
1st, Abraham wasn't a monthly tither.

Secondly, Abraham didn't pay tithe from his increase, he paid from the proceeds of the war.

Thirdly, I'm not living the live of Abraham else can marry my niece.

Fourthly, I'm living by the teaching and life of Jesus, tithe was not included.

Fifthly, you are quoting the bible out of contest, that passage talked about Jesus not seeing tithe to be important
Was Jesus there from the beginning of creation ? Was Jesus the word?
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Saverin: 8:58am On Nov 09, 2017
The biggest financial fraud, scam and thievery is happening "in God's name". You pay 10% of your income as tithe to an immaterial God who is spirit. This money is unaccountable. It is a huge black hole that drains the wealth of sheeples and transfer it to " men of God " who fly private jets
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 9:45am On Nov 09, 2017
asuustrike2009:

Was Jesus there from the beginning of creation ? Was Jesus the word?
Christianity is not a belief of early creation
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 9:46am On Nov 09, 2017
asuustrike2009:

Do you give alms and offerings?
I give alms to the poor and offerings to the church.
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 9:47am On Nov 09, 2017
asuustrike2009:

So the scriptures from the beginning to the end was child's play? So the commandments aren't applicable in this dispensation because we're under grace? The scriptures are not for reproof and correction but selective
what do you think about the law that said we shouldn't barb our beards and no one except the priest and Levites can visit the altar?
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by OkaiCorne(m): 9:47am On Nov 09, 2017
felixomor:

That is your opinion

Do you have to be a Christian or Muslim to believe there will be sun and pretty clouds in the sky?

Christians say JESUS is the way the TRUTH and the life.

I wonder if Jesus practised Judaism in his 3 years and 6 months ministry.

Can any Christian help me on the religion Jesus practised?... and if you say Jesus is God... does God practise any religion? undecided

If God does not practise any religion...do I need to join any religion to reach God and know the TRUTH?
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by felixomor: 10:49am On Nov 09, 2017
OkaiCorne:


Do you have to be a Christian or Muslim to believe there will be sun and pretty clouds in the sky?

Christians say JESUS is the way the TRUTH and the life.

I wonder if Jesus practised Judaism in his 3 years and 6 months ministry.

Can any Christian help me on the religion Jesus practised?... and if you say Jesus is God... does God practise any religion? undecided

If God does not practise any religion...do I need to join any religion to reach God and know the TRUTH?

You know the truth

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Gombs(m): 1:31pm On Nov 09, 2017
connectikut89:


I talked extensively about this on the first page of this thread. Bro please look it up and refute. There are some unanswered questions in there. Thanks

You want me to supply you links of this topic from 2012 to 2015?
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by petishegzy(m): 3:11pm On Nov 09, 2017
It's better we all understand the basics in terms of paying tithe
Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 - 23 and Malachi 3 vs 10
If we read these verses very well and understand, God wasn't asking for tithe in terms of money, he was asking in form of 'Foodstuffs'
God said bring ye all tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in my house.. On a normal day, every church should have a storehouse..And since most churches don't have, that's why they pay in terms of money.. And unfortunately, some pastors divert these funds. God will judge them.. Some of these churches who use d money in a right way, they buy foodstuffs for people in prison, Hospitals and Motherless baby homes..
Some people will say that some pastors said if you don't pay, u'll be cursed.. God said it himself not any pastor. Malachi 3 vs 9.. But to the best of my knowledge, i think that curse is meant for working class people who fail to pay tithe.. If someone is in the hospital and the person is not paying tithe, will God curse him too?
Pay ur tithe in form of 'Foodstuffs' not money
Thank you
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by KGBEAST(m): 3:46pm On Nov 09, 2017
Seun:

What term should be used to describe poor people who voluntarily 'dash' more than 10% of their money to extremely rich people every month?
An Idiot grin grin grin grin
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by abma: 4:09pm On Nov 09, 2017
asuustrike2009:

Why didn't Jesus speak against tithing if he didn't want us to pay? Yes we look up to Jesus the author of our faith but doesn't mean we shouldn't keep his word. We claim to profess Abrahamic blessing upon our lives yet we don't want to follow his footsteps. We claim to love God yet we choose to select which and which to obey. Didn't the scripture say "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" did it say "some"? Who explains the scriptures more better? Isn't the holy spirit? Are we more better in understanding of the scriptures than God himself who gave his word. My dear go on your kneels and ask the holy spirit if it's right to continue tithing. He will reveal deeper things to you. Don't assume you know it all or because you have being grounded in the word.
What happens to the explanation on tithe found in Deut 14:26?
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Nobody: 8:06am On Nov 10, 2017
betterABIAstate:
I give alms to the poor and offerings to the church.
If you can what stop you from giving to God? Is giving alms to the poor compulsory?
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Nobody: 8:07am On Nov 10, 2017
betterABIAstate:
Christianity is not a belief of early creation
Then go back and study your Bible very well. I wonder the kind of teaching you are getting or the shepherd feeding you if any
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 8:48am On Nov 10, 2017
asuustrike2009:

Then go back and study your Bible very well. I wonder the kind of teaching you are getting or the shepherd feeding you if any
tithing is an old Jewish culture sir, same way keeping of beards is.
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 8:51am On Nov 10, 2017
asuustrike2009:

If you can what stop you from giving to God? Is giving alms to the poor compulsory?
giving alms is necessary for Christianity, Christianity is all about touching lives and helping the needy and Jesus encouraged it
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Osezua: 8:55am On Nov 10, 2017
betterABIAstate:
1st, Abraham wasn't a monthly tither.

Secondly, Abraham didn't pay tithe from his increase, he paid from the proceeds of the war.

Thirdly, I'm not living the live of Abraham else can marry my niece.

Fourthly, I'm living by the teaching and life of Jesus, tithe was not included.

Fifthly, you are quoting the bible out of contest, that passage talked about Jesus not seeing tithe to be important
The bible did not record the things Abraham did on a monthly basis. it recorded an incident that happened and how Abraham acted. That should be our guiding principle not until you know what he did on a weekly or monthly basis.
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 9:05am On Nov 10, 2017
Osezua:
The bible did not record the things Abraham did on a monthly basis. it recorded an incident that happened and how Abraham acted. That should be our guiding principle not until you know what he did on a weekly or monthly basis.
so how do we back the monthly tithing? From what portion of the Bible siad you should pay tithe monthly?

Again, it was recorded that Abraham didn't tithe from his own sweat and increase, he gave 10% from the spoils of the war not his personal earnings

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Osezua: 9:08am On Nov 10, 2017
betterABIAstate:
1st, Abraham wasn't a monthly tither.

Secondly, Abraham didn't pay tithe from his increase, he paid from the proceeds of the war.

Thirdly, I'm not living the live of Abraham else can marry my niece.

Fourthly, I'm living by the teaching and life of Jesus, tithe was not included.

Fifthly, you are quoting the bible out of contest, that passage talked about Jesus not seeing tithe to be important
You say you are not living the life of Abraham but say sing and claim the blessings of Abraham. Remember the song: Abraham's blessings are mine, I am blessed in the morning, I am blessed in the evening, Abraham's blessings are mine. You want to claim Abraham's blessings but you dont want to do the basic things he did on his way to blessings.
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 9:11am On Nov 10, 2017
Osezua:
You say you are not living the life of Abraham but say sing and claim the blessings of Abraham. Remember the song: Abraham's blessings are mine, I am blessed in the morning, I am blessed in the evening, Abraham's blessings are mine. You want to claim Abraham's blessings but you dont want to do the basic things he did on his way to blessings.
I'm living the life of Jesus, Abraham is not a monthly tither, I don't need to tithe monthly to claim his blessings.

Living the live of Abraham is tantamount to living a lawless life, his era had no guiding law hence he committed adultery and married his relation.
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Nobody: 9:14am On Nov 10, 2017
betterABIAstate:
giving alms is necessary for Christianity, Christianity is all about touching lives and helping the needy and Jesus encouraged it
Giving alms isn't necessary as Christians. We're admonished to give but not compulsory. Study your Bible very well
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Nobody: 9:16am On Nov 10, 2017
betterABIAstate:
tithing is an old Jewish culture sir, same way keeping of beards is.
Tithe isn't an old tradition because Jesus wasn't against it
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 9:28am On Nov 10, 2017
asuustrike2009:

Tithe isn't an old tradition because Jesus wasn't against it
Jesus didn't practise it either.

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