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Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 6:27am On Nov 08, 2017
The thread is meant to open the eyes of brainwashed Christians on tithing which is obviously a mosaic law and not captured in the new covenant because there was no record of anybody paying tithe in the bible after the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ.

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 6:29am On Nov 08, 2017
It's difficult for some Christians to let go of this fake doctrine

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by felixomor: 7:30am On Nov 08, 2017
betterABIAstate:
The thread is meant to open the eyes of brainwashed Christians on tithing which is obviously a mosaic law and not captured in the new covenant because there was no record of anybody paying tithe in the bible after the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ.

Anybody who calls other Christians "brainwashed" because they dont agree with his own opinion isnt a Christian.

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Seun(m): 11:21am On Nov 08, 2017
felixomor:
Anybody who calls other Christians "brainwashed" because they dont agree with his own opinion isnt a Christian.
What term should be used to describe poor people who voluntarily 'dash' more than 10% of their money to extremely rich people every month?

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by felixomor: 11:26am On Nov 08, 2017
Seun:

What term should be used to describe poor people who voluntarily 'dash' more than 10% of their money to extremely rich people every month?
Its not your business!
You are not a Christian.

Just as the tenets of budhism or any other religion wont make sense to me, so dont expect Christian tenets to make sense to you

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by robosky02(m): 11:26am On Nov 08, 2017
Seun:

What term should be used to describe poor people who voluntarily 'dash' more than 10% of their money to extremely rich people every month?


seun undecided


when you get an orange, you can eat all but the seed part you are required to sow back so more orange can come to you
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Seun(m): 11:45am On Nov 08, 2017
robosky02:
seun undecided when you get an orange, you can eat all but the seed part you are required to sow back so more orange can come to you
Yes, and the proper application of that idea to finance is that you should invest any excess money that you have into a productive business or financial securities. Giving your money to a rich pastor is like planting your seed in another man's farm. The owner of the farm will reap the benefits.

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by robosky02(m): 11:54am On Nov 08, 2017
Seun:

Yes, and the proper application of that idea to finance is that you should invest any excess money that you have into a productive business or security. Giving your money to a rich pastor is like planting your seed in another man's farmland. The owner of the land will reap the benefits.


to understand tithing first we must go back to the bases

what is tithe?
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by DangotePikin: 12:16pm On Nov 08, 2017
Seun:

What term should be used to describe poor people who voluntarily 'dash' more than 10% of their money to extremely rich people every month?
please how many pastors are extremely rich?
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by connectikut89(m): 1:13pm On Nov 08, 2017
felixomor:

Its not your business!
You are not a Christian.

Just as the tenets of budhism or any other religion wont make sense to me, so dont expect Christian tenets to make sense to you

Funny thing is, it's not even a Christian tenet. It's a Jewish practice.

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by chemystery: 1:16pm On Nov 08, 2017
Seun:

Yes, and the proper application of that idea to finance is that you should invest any excess money that you have into a productive business or security. Giving your money to a rich pastor is like planting your seed in another man's farmland. The owner of the land will reap the benefits.

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by OkaiCorne(m): 1:43pm On Nov 08, 2017
betterABIAstate:
It's difficult for some Christians to let go of this fake doctrine

This is my take on Tithing... Tithing is tantamount to applying ancient solutions to modern challenges.

Giving (not necessarily money) out of love to help humanity in the best way you can will attract far greater blessings than tithing.

How has tithing helped in solving humanity's problems? undecided

Any system that takes from the poor with a view to satisfying the greed of a few is EVIL. And there are Churches that are so guilty of this...

If there are Churches that collect tithes to selflessly help the welfare of the less privileged...I will not accuse those Churches.

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by felixomor: 2:17pm On Nov 08, 2017
connectikut89:


Funny thing is, it's not even a Christian tenet. It's a Jewish practice.
Before judaism, there was already tithe

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by ikorodureporta: 2:35pm On Nov 08, 2017
The revolution has begun.....by January, this is what their Tithe Revenue graph wld look like.... cheesy

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by adepeter2027(m): 4:03pm On Nov 08, 2017
ikorodureporta:
The revolution has begun.....by January, this is what their Tithe Revenue graph wld look like.... cheesy
lmao

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by OtemSapien: 4:10pm On Nov 08, 2017
felixomor:

Its not your business!
You are not a Christian.

Just as the tenets of budhism or any other religion wont make sense to me, so dont expect Christian tenets to make sense to you
Ride on Pastor Felix. You have to do this to keep the sheeple in check. Maga must pay you na wink
Reminds me of sheeple donating 100% of their first alawee as capitation during their service year. Some brains need to be polished hard.

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by OtemSapien: 4:13pm On Nov 08, 2017
ikorodureporta:
The revolution has begun.....by January, this is what their Tithe Revenue graph wld look like.... cheesy
No be small thing o grin
Nowadays I ask my neighbour what she wants to use the money she's asking me to give her for. It happens than 80% of the time, she wants to use it to pay tithe or offering in church. I never make mistake of giving her whenever she mentions tithe. But for any other purpose, no p grin Sheeple must get sense.
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by felixomor: 4:23pm On Nov 08, 2017
OtemSapien:
Ride on Pastor Felix. You have to do this to keep the sheeple in check. Maga must pay you na wink
Reminds me of sheeple donating 100% of their first alawee as capitation during their service year. Some brains need to be polished hard.
Those brains are still better than yours

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by OtemSapien: 4:25pm On Nov 08, 2017
felixomor:

Those brains are still better than yours
Proof grin cheesy
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by felixomor: 4:29pm On Nov 08, 2017
OtemSapien:
Proof grin cheesy
U r the proof na.
Your delusions are grand
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by felixomor: 4:42pm On Nov 08, 2017
OtemSapien:

[s]Are you not the homo who was disgraced by 4evergod wannabe the other day? I was really amazed at the low thinking faculty you exhibited there back then mhen. Anyway, I believe since then you've gained more wisdom, am I right? cool
On a more serious note, Felix, don't see me as an enemy. I'm a friend to my continent and the world. I just wish the light of God Almighty who created Yahweh your god can give you a life-changing revelation, ase!!!
Read the DOCTUFOS passage below:[/s]

Lobbish lipsrsealed

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by OtemSapien: 4:46pm On Nov 08, 2017
felixomor:

Lobbish lipsrsealed
Oshey grin
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Seun(m): 5:51pm On Nov 08, 2017
robosky02:
to understand tithing first we must go back to the bases

what is tithe?
It means a tenth. Why do you ask?

DangotePikin:
please how many pastors are extremely rich?
All the leaders of tithe-collecting churches with many branches. Why do you ask?

felixomor:

Before judaism, there was already tithe
“Before Judaism”, there was animal sacrifice and the stoning of adulterers. What’s your point? smiley

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by connectikut89(m): 5:54pm On Nov 08, 2017
felixomor:

Before judaism, there was already tithe

There were other (somewhat more important to God than pre-Judeo tithes) things that existed before Judaism and later became an ordinance in Judaism. A good example is burnt offering like the classic case of Cain and Abel, Abraham and so on, but you cherry pick tithing and leave the others. For the sake of argument, I'll indulge you.

There are only two biblical accounts of pre-judeo tithing;
1. Abraham: Genesis 14:18-20 - He tithed of the spoils of war, not of his possessions or income. And it is recorded he only did it once as there were no earthly priests to offer them to. Note that Melchizedek was a "priest of the Most High God...without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God and remains a priest continually." (Hebrews 7:1‭, ‬3 NKJV)

2. Jacob/Isreal: Genesis 28:20-22 - He made a vow to give God a tenth. Mind you he said God not a priest. There were no priests or prophets as at this time. So please pray tell how he fulfilled this vow because the Bible didn't give us a feedback.

My point is simple, if you're going to abide by a principle, follow through. If you want to do pre-judeo tithing, give the tithe of your spoils to a "priest of the order of Melchizedek" like Abraham did or be like Jacob, that is, of course, after you find out how he fulfilled his.

But there's good news. Giving in Christianity has a model that is still applicable today, as recommended by Jesus Christ himself. Read up Matthew 25:35-40.
The Apostles of Christ also had recommendations that are still applicable in our time. 1 Corinthians 16:2; 2 Corinthians 9:7. You should also support evangelists and ministries who intend to preach the gospel to people around the world, not Pastors who only preach prosperity and live a life of luxury on members' money gifts and refuse to labour.

Apostle Paul did not burden his members whenever he went to preach the gospel and so he worked for his food, instead of exacting it on his members

II Thessalonians 3:6-15 NKJV - But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to follow us, for we were not disorderly among you; nor did we eat anyone’s bread free of charge, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us. For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread. But as for you, brethren, do not grow weary in doing good. And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

Thank you.

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by Funnyguy83: 7:32pm On Nov 08, 2017
Seun:

What term should be used to describe poor people who voluntarily 'dash' more than 10% of their money to extremely rich people every month?
seun you are a muslim right ?
Re: Anti-tithing Thread by felixomor: 8:48pm On Nov 08, 2017
connectikut89:


There were other (somewhat more important to God than pre-Judeo tithes) things that existed before Judaism and later became an ordinance in Judaism. A good example is burnt offering like the classic case of Cain and Abel, Abraham and so on, but you cherry pick tithing and leave the others. For the sake of argument, I'll indulge you.

There are only two biblical accounts of pre-judeo tithing;
1. Abraham: Genesis 14:18-20 - He tithed of the spoils of war, not of his possessions or income. And it is recorded he only did it once as there were no earthly priests to offer them to. Note that Melchizedek was a "priest of the Most High God...without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God and remains a priest continually." (Hebrews 7:1‭, ‬3 NKJV)

2. Jacob/Isreal: Genesis 28:20-22 - He made a vow to give God a tenth. Mind you he said God not a priest. There were no priests or prophets as at this time. So please pray tell how he fulfilled this vow because the Bible didn't give us a feedback.

My point is simple, if you're going to abide by a principle, follow through. If you want to do pre-judeo tithing, give the tithe of your spoils to a "priest of the order of Melchizedek" like Abraham did or be like Jacob, that is, of course, after you find out how he fulfilled his.

But there's good news. Giving in Christianity has a model that is still applicable today, as recommended by Jesus Christ himself. Read up Matthew 25:35-40.
The Apostles of Christ also had recommendations that are still applicable in our time. 1 Corinthians 16:2; 2 Corinthians 9:7. You should also support evangelists and ministries who intend to preach the gospel to people around the world, not Pastors who only preach prosperity and live a life of luxury on members' money gifts and refuse to labour.

Apostle Paul did not burden his members whenever he went to preach the gospel and so he worked for his food, instead of exacting it on his members

II Thessalonians 3:6-15 NKJV - But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to follow us, for we were not disorderly among you; nor did we eat anyone’s bread free of charge, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us. For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread. But as for you, brethren, do not grow weary in doing good. And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

Thank you.

Thats your opinion
Thank you

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by felixomor: 8:50pm On Nov 08, 2017
Seun:
It means a tenth. Why do you ask?

All the leaders of tithe-paying churches with many branches. Why do you ask?


“Before Judaism”, there was animal sacrifice and the stoning of adulterers. What’s your point? smiley

We pick the good ones
Simple
Just as we pick the good things from Davids life etc

But as usual, these things can't make sense 2 u
Stop wasting time

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by OkaiCorne(m): 9:00pm On Nov 08, 2017
felixomor:


We pick the good ones
Simple
Just as we pick the good things from Davids life etc

But as usual, these things can't make sense 2 u
Stop wasting time

Tithing is good especially if you are doing it with a clear mind before God and not under the influence of a manipulative fraudster in suit.

However, sacrificial giving to the cause of Humanity is FAR BETTER...Did you read the part of the bible that states giving to the Orphans and Widows is tantamount to lending to God?

If Tithing and Sacrificial giving are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE OPTIONS, which option will you opt for in line with the mentality of Jesus Christ?

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by chemystery: 9:06pm On Nov 08, 2017
felixomor:


We pick the good ones
Simple
Just as we pick the good things from Davids life etc

But as usual, these things can't make sense 2 u
Stop wasting time
You mean you cherry pick the good ones just to keep the blind faith going? Genius!

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Re: Anti-tithing Thread by felixomor: 9:13pm On Nov 08, 2017
chemystery:

You mean you cherry pick the good ones just to keep the blind faith going? Genius!

Read above
What has an atheist got to do with tithing?
Are u guys this jobless?

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