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Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:40am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Acidosis: No surprise such twisted reasoning exists among Nigerians like you. And people wonder why religion was the most pernicious, damaging colonial import that has twisted Nigerian minds so perversely. And wonder why religiosity among nations correlate strongly with poverty and illiteracy and corruption and docility among the population that cannot hold their governments accountable. Jokers like you will ensure Africa will remain the pits of the earth that the rest of the world will continue to spit on. And no, pastors are not like experienced Medical consultants. One of those jobs requires well over a decade of intense, rigorous training and commitment and universal standards of regulation and performance appraisal. Any joker can pick up a Bible and claim to be a pastor and regale gullible people with grandiose claims about when he was "called". That means any joker on the streets can question a pastor.
Ah......the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. You're coming out with the greatest hits today. 3 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by ovieigho(m): 11:40am On Nov 11, 2017 |
ayukdaboss:it's a lie.... I know where I was before now And where I am now as a tither Tithing is a spiritual instruction. Show me one regular tither that lacks good thing.. The psalmist said 'I will not give unto God that which cost me nothing 2 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Bakrabas: 11:41am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Christianity, a religion of confusion with different scriptures from the different personalities Christianity, a religion whereby the gullible ones believe in the death man on the cross rather the real God that created the death man on the cross 1 Like
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Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by OGHENAOGIE(m): 11:43am On Nov 11, 2017 |
frankpro27:baba God bless u.... But anybody from church of Christ here cuz those guys don't pay tithe ooooo....like u said being wealthy most times is principles and functionality....we are a religious society that's Yy d most corrupt pple who swindle pple pay the highest donations.... 2 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by babapressy(m): 11:43am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Mercy Lord |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by WebSurfer(m): 11:44am On Nov 11, 2017 |
BRAV0O:You keep sounding more foolish mentioning anti christ, for your info I believe in God but refuse to be brainwashed by many nonsense written by men just to scare us 3 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by aribisala0(m): 11:46am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Acidosis: Outside Nigeria I don't have a say .That is what Jesus said> Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Mark 10:21-22 Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, ‘You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.’ When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions. Luke 14:12-14 He said also to the one who had invited him, ‘When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.’ 2 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Acidosis(m): 11:46am On Nov 11, 2017 |
aribisala0: So whose money does the Catholic priest use for survival? Anyway, your points have been noted. One thing is certain, poverty, war, diseases and death will never END in the world.. This shouldn't be a surprise if you're a Christian. The fact that Jesus fed lots of people at the wedding ceremony in Cana doesn't mean some citizens of Cana didn't go to bed hungry on that same day. Jesus wasn't everywhere. He only healed people he encountered, especially those whose faiths were in tandem with his faith. Pastors are humans like you and I, they can't be everywhere in the name of feeding the poor. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by drshamo(m): 11:49am On Nov 11, 2017 |
OtemSapien: Allah is the real God and nt God pls |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by mencer(m): 11:49am On Nov 11, 2017 |
I wonder why any pastor should respond to this debate |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by olabrad: 11:51am On Nov 11, 2017 |
pahen1991: How come your pastors are not giving spiritual explanations? How come their responses are carnal? They resort to threatening, thinking that people will cower because they are pastors? Why would a true man of God explain spiritual things with threats? Mr man, answer that question. 2 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by IamtherealRita(f): 11:51am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Interesting15: You are a clear definition of a Charlatan 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by aribisala0(m): 11:53am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Acidosis:I am not sure the relevance of the emboldened part. What has that got to do with anything I said? The point for me is this: A good Christian should be interested in what his church does with his contribution. A good Christian has personal responsibility to feed and clothe the needy directly and that is MORE important than giving to the church especially in this era where giving o tthe church essentially is SOWING SEEDs witth the hope aand expectation of material reward. Jesus emphasized giving when there is no prospect of getting in return especially to the poor and destitute. I do not even hear these so called men of God encouraging their followers to giveanywhere but to their church 2 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by olabrad: 11:53am On Nov 11, 2017 |
BRAV0O: You that you are prochrist, why not explain it the way Christ would instead of threatening? 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by jibs4lv(m): 11:53am On Nov 11, 2017 |
bedspread:it doesn't mean that you should be a dumb too . 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:54am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Acidosis: I know loads of faithful tithe payers that can never be swayed by a roadside beggar to part with token change in their pockets. They don't pay their tithes because of their generosity and charitable spirit. Stop deceiving yourself. They pay if faithfully because they view it in transactional terms. "I pay my tithe and my business will boom" is the way they think. That is why one of the most common comments I see in this whole tithe brouhaha is "tithing works for me". I can't count the number of people I've read who type that nonsense. And even on this very thread, I've read about a dozen people that have uttered the same words. 7 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Nobody: 11:54am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Acidosis: But you can all attack PMB but none of you guys know anything about politics 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by olabrad: 11:55am On Nov 11, 2017 |
bedspread:Give biblical proof that you should pay tithe in the New Testament, or keep quiet 2 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Acidosis(m): 11:55am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi: You're ignorant. You think having an android phone, attending English classes and knowing how to read the English Bible is what makes one a Christian? Satan understands the Bible, does that makes him a Christian? You actually sound dum.ber than I thought seeing the way you attribute development with religiosity. What business has the Christian faith got to do with you going to school and making yourself useful to the society? If your community is poorly developed, then chances are that the teachers, lecturers and political office holders in your schools and communities are dum.b. When dum.b people elect dum.b politicians because of rice and dodo, people like you end up blaming the Pastors. 2 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by TheHotspur(m): 11:56am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Mariangeles: I hope you will get sense one day, I have never insulted you in all my post saying you are stupid is not an insult but a clear definition of who your personality is... Go and see the meaning of stupid for yourself |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by olabrad: 11:56am On Nov 11, 2017 |
emeijeh: All we ask is biblical proof, not pastor's proof |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Modupeolatemi01(f): 11:58am On Nov 11, 2017 |
I swear ! Real antichrist. The bible says when we see all these things it is not the end yet but the beginning of the end meaning we should brace up for more antagonistic demon possessed people like freeze posing thwmselves as angels of light. quote author=BRAV0O post=62269270]The end is near! My brothers and sisters prepare anti Christi on rampage!!![/quote] 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by oruma19: 12:00pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
[quote author=ericsmith post=62275505][/quote]I would have addresses ur Bleep up and ignorance but I won't wana give u such dignity. I rest my case . people u can't advise 1. A girl/ boy in love 2. A buhari supporter 3. A rich man/ woman 4. An indoctrinated church goer. 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Smartii(m): 12:01pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
sexybbstar:Okay, but to me Shey? Trust me, I would remit it to the pastor in double fold sef. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Acidosis(m): 12:01pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi: So what do you expect when tithing is working for them? They should stop paying it just because a radio station worker thinks he has a better alternative? |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Topgainer: 12:02pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Topgainer:Chapter 2 of the Book of Tithe in the proposed additions to the New Testament. For the consideration of Pastorpreneurs Only. Verse 1. Concerning the methods of tithing that Jesus did not teach while on earth which I have packaged by revelation to special humans for all Christians. 2. The Gentile Pastors are hereby changed to Levites. All privileges accorded to the Levites of the descendants of Levi are extended to them. 3. However, they are permitted to own lands, do businesses, sell books and anything they so desire to Christians. 4. Tithe is a commandment which Jesus forgot to pass to the Apostles. 5. Tithe can bless you oh sons of men 6. Tithe can protect you and all that concerns you 7. Tithe can provide all your needs 8. Tithe ensures you receive mercy 9. Tithe makes you very rich and opens the revelation of money to you 10. Tithe makes you not to lack and ensures no devils attack your home appliances 11. Tithe makes your finances not to be tight 12. Tithe will help man of god procure and maintain jets which are the only vehicle required to take the gospel to London, Paris, Dubai, Constantinople, Dubai and New york. 13. Pastors must preach tithe to members as in it lies their financial liberation. 14. Payment of tithe ensures you don't ever visit mechanics 15. Payment of tithe insures your health, you don't have to spend money in hospitals 16. Payment of tithe insures you against armed robbers and thieves. 17. Payment of tithe will help you make heaven and avoid curses. 18. All tithes of Agricultural yields and spoils of war are hereby suspended. From henceforth, tithe will now be money. Times have changed. 19. All these Revelations did not come to Apostle Paul, but to gentile Bishops who are scattered all over Africa and among the black races. 20. All treasures of money, financial explosions, the keys to world banks and gold mines are reserved for Christians who pay tithes. 21. When you can pay in American dollars you shall also be rewarded with the minting machines of Bank of America delivered to your door steps. 4 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Nobody: 12:02pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Nigerians are one of the dumbest set of people in the world when religion is concerned. Some folks will tell you I don't care what pastors do with the tithes, offerings, seeds et al. It's his business with God. If that's the case, Nigerians shouldn't care what the government do with the resources in the country. Nigerians pay taxes directly and indirectly. They vote directly and indirectly and you wanna know the result of all these by what Government does. But when Pastors are involved, y'all go dumb and brains fly outta your bodies. I don't understand how people reason honestly 5 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by adepeter2027(m): 12:05pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Modupeolatemi01:When someone disagree with you people or question your doctrine, you guys are fast of accusing them as anti-christ BRAV0O:For more than 2000years now, the end is yet to come. Christianity is bullshyt 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Nobody: 12:08pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Acidosis: He is simply telling you that what you belief in works for anybody. Have faith in whatever you do and it shall come to pass irrespective of your religion, tribe or whatnot. Atheist, Agnostic, Deist et al don't pay tithe and they are doing pretty well. Some worship idols and are living large. So bros, if a tithe payer decides not to pay anymore and have beliefs and faith in what he does zeroing his mind about tithe,he will be fine. Pastors are psychologist |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by adepeter2027(m): 12:08pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
ollah1:Don't mind them bro Pathological effect of religion |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by Obi1kenobi(m): 12:09pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Acidosis: What does being a Christian or not have to do with exposing the bunch of frauds that appropriate a Jewish custom they have misinterpreted and manipulate their gullible sheep to follow the alien Jewish custom? Do you have to be a Catholic to critique Catholic tenets as a Pentecostal? Again, do you have to be a politician to critique politicians? If you had any self-awareness about how reetarded that twaddle you wrote earlier about politics is, you'll never utter the word "dumb" here. And nobody attributed development with religiosity or lack of it. This is yet ANOTHER dumb misinterpretation from you that has me needing to make a clarification. Causation and correlation are not the same. Merely being religious in itself doesn't make your society developed or not. But cretins blinded by religion have unique attributes of docility and conformity and a certain mental indolence (due to ascribing all or most things as being somehow divinely willed) to properly hold their failed leaders to account. This is why democracy is wasted on a society like Nigeria and why someone like you will utter the horseshiit that being less "experienced" than politicians should somehow stop or limit our criticism of politicians. A very big shame. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by DjAduba(m): 12:09pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Mr. Freeze these guys do not have any defense on this regard which u already know, I wud prefer u let them be, u know they say truth is bitter. |
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