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| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by MuttleyLaff: 6:36am On Nov 24, 2017*. Modified: 7:15am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan: MrPristine:The type of tithing preached and practiced today is not the Abraham type of tithing, is not the Levitical/Mosaic Law of tithing, and certainly isnt the secular type of tithing but is ecclesiastical tithe, Ecclesiastical tithe, is where the church taxes members tenth, 1/10, 10% and possibly 0.1 too of their financial income 1Now about the collection for the Lord’s people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. 2On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made. 3Then, when I arrive, I will give letters of introduction to the men you approve and send them with your gift to Jerusalem. - 1 Corinthians 16:1-3 Ecclesiastical tithe is an aberration of the principle of church support, recommended and laid down in, at least 1 Corinthians 16:1-3 above |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by TANTUMERGO007(m): 8:18am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Oyedipo and adeboye don send her to come beg us |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Bonapart(m): 8:19am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:you cannot convince a man from what he already believes... God speed sis. The LORD is your strength |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by charismaticdave(m): 8:20am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:Nwanne, Ananias and his wife was not killed because of tithe na. Why must we quote lies just to buttress what is wrong. And some sheeple will believe this lie |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Themandator: 8:22am On Nov 24, 2017 |
NwaAmaikpe:You are wrong. Money is a relatively new means of exchange. In the old times it was cash crops. .... the tithe Jesus spoke about in Matt 23:23 covered everything when he told them leaders of the church that they pay tithe of everything even to the most ridiculous items like anise but have neglected the more important matters of justice which they ought also have done while not neglecting the tithe. |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Bakrabas: 8:24am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Tithes is meant for Israelis not Nigerians
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| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by aspirebig: 8:25am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Unna don carry this topic come back again... Tithe as in paying it monthly ...that one tenth of your salary or earning is very very unbiblical. All the bible passages quoted were picked in isolation.Read the chapter in full anddigest the whole story there. |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by nairanaira12: 8:26am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:Your quote in Matthew and Mark didn't refer to tithe. They refer to giving, and you can give anything to anybody. Not tithe or to a pastor. Stop covering up. The New Testament doesn't support tithing. Jesus didn't preach it and didn't collect it. |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by lovetruth(m): 8:26am On Nov 24, 2017 |
NwaAmaikpe:the question is when last do u farm cn ur farm produce buy church needs ponder on it |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by osazy01: 8:28am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Even govt mak u pay tax Pay ur tithes |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by TEYA: 8:28am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:Lol. You use the word of God to confuse yourself. Ananias was NOT to pay a tithe of the money from the sales of his land, believers were selling their property and bringing the money to the feet of the apostles of their own volition. Check in acts chapter 4 the questions that Peter asked ananias before he died. Ananias died because he lied to God and you people that are desperately trying to follow the law of moses will face the same fate the day you default. As for me, I live by grace and I am not compelled to pay any tithe. |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by TEYA: 8:31am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Themandator:You're wrong, Jesus was sold for silver coins, go and read your bible again. |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Olifiz(m): 8:32am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Pls all of u quoting Malachi 3:10 should go n read Hebrews 7:5-18 den u will see why Christians are not suppose to pay tithes anymore. U will be made to understand that the law on tithe was set aside because it became weak n ineffective. So verse 19 explained further cos that law made nothin perfect but the introduction of a better hope (thru Jesus ransom) did, through which we are drawing close to God. But as Christians we are commanded in Corinthians to give freely not under compulsion n not grudgingly for God Loves a cheerful giver. |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by nairanaira12: 8:32am On Nov 24, 2017 |
No hardasan:Oga, you are not dealing with fools here. Your title says giving tithe to pastor is biblical, but you are now trying to change it to something else. Why wasting your time supporting ungodly teaching? Tithe doesn't belong to pastor. Deuteronomy says you and your family should eat your tithe. |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Themandator: 8:32am On Nov 24, 2017 |
nairanaira12:Matt 23:23 |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by goldedprince: 8:34am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Bible say on passover, kill and animal and rub the blood on your door, if you want to follow rule of tithe, why not also follow rule if rubbing blood in your door on passover. Must you always choose the money part and follow? Useless stupid directionless Christians |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by colossus91(m): 8:34am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Aunty op did Jesus pay tithe and to whom?? |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Nobody: 8:35am On Nov 24, 2017 |
I dnt even kn wat to beleive anymore,confused..som things in d bible are so.....imagine where d bible says do not commit adultery,for i say unto u,a man who marries a divorced woman has committed adultery,dat divorce is a sin,does it mean a divorced woman should b single for life?..so many things are nt cleared to me weneva i open my bible to read bt anyways God will see us through,jst do good,dats d key..pay tithe if u like,di not force people to pay or not pay,jst do wat u beleive and stop listening to others...God is good |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Jethrolite(m): 8:35am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:You are actually the brainwashed one. What exactly will happen if I don't pay my tithe? I won't prosper or I won't make heaven? I need you to give me direct answers and not start a sentimental writeup. Because presently I don't tithe and I'm more prosperous than 90% of tithers. You need to leave the blackmail of your pastor behind and start using the brain God has given you. People like you are making the crucifixion seem like a wasted effort. God is love and your prosperity is not tied to tithing neither your candidacy for heaven. Look at the 100 most prosperous people on earth and mention one tither amongst them. God has given freely to all without condition. Even to unbelievers He has given freely. #freethesheeple. |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by goldedprince: 8:35am On Nov 24, 2017 |
nairanaira12:What chapter and verse in deut says so? |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by InvertedHammer: 8:36am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:Paying of tithe is biblical. Question 1: Who should pay tithe? Israelites. Question 2: Who are the beneficiaries of tithe? Members and Levites. Question 3: Who were excluded from tithes? Gentiles (of which Adeboyes, Oyakhilomes, Okoties of this world belong to) If you read the Bible well, you will notice that most of the communications and orders from God were meant for the Israelites. God led them to war and conquered their enemies. Those ones slaughtered, were they not children of God (assuming the God of Israel is the creator of all mankind). The fact is that Nigerians are following the God of Israelites as taught in the Bible. But we decided to be more Israelis than the Israelites. There was Baal, Budha, etc and we believe as Christians that the God of Israelites is the most powerful just as others believe in their own. The Bible is the christians' version of telling people how awesome their God is. Of course, the muslims, Buddhists, etc have their own books that showcase the awesomeness of their faith. The fact is no one knows for sure what is what. Everyone is claiming supremacy which is normal to humans just as different races are at war about supremacy. Currently the Caucasians are leading in that pack. It is absurd listening to someone indoctrinated into a certain religion claiming to know it all. / |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by lakesider(m): 8:37am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Masturbation is good... Biblical quote .. We can't depend on a 2000 year old civilisation man ... Use you sense .. Countries are talking about landing on the sun .. You are talking about an anonymous written book of 2000 years |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Wondersoc: 8:37am On Nov 24, 2017 |
NwaAmaikpe:Can you swear that you can bring Agricultural products to your Church as tithe? Are you sure? Could you do it? You people just hate Pastors etc. Do you farm? Are we in the agrarian age? We judge ourselves out of ignorance and allow people who have issues with men of God to infect us with their viruses. Just continue fooling around. Jesus did not ask the widow that gave her might to go get a sheep instead but complemented her. |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by ugjeks(m): 8:38am On Nov 24, 2017 |
the truth should be told please. routine tithe is not necessary, giving to God is compulsory but the Bible says God loves a cheerful giver. What's the point if you give grudgingly. The formal way of paying 10% was done for some reasons. |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by uyplus(m): 8:39am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:Never money. Even your malachi listed herbs and mints and not money. From 24 to 26 of Deuteronomy 14, the bible stated that you should only convert the goods to money if the road be too long to where you want to pay your tithe, and that when you get to that place, you use the money to buy whatsoever your soul lusteth after! Never add to the bible what is not explicitly stated. Besides, Malachi 3 was adressing the levitical priest! We are not descendants of the Levite trive so noone has right to recieve tithes! Jesus gave only two commandments love the Lord thy God with aall your heart and Love your neighbor as yourself. And he further affirmed that whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers that you do unto me. He never said if you pay tithe, you are doing it unto him. If you cherry pick the laws in the OT bible for moneytary gains, then those verses where the bible instructs that people be stoned to death for small sins like in Deuteronomy 17 3 to 5 should be followed too. None of the 12 apostles ever made mention of tithes! 1 thessolonian 2 9, 2 corinthians 11:9 shows that the apostle worked aside their call to ministy. The guideline of giving to God is contained in 2 cortinthians 9:7 and charity is a form of giving to God, tithe isnt a form of giving to God. You cant fool noone here. Go back to your pay master and tell him/her kolerwerk! |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Themandator: 8:39am On Nov 24, 2017 |
TEYA:Yes he was sold for silver coins but that wasn't a common means of exchange but store of value in place of the more common perishable means of exchange like farm produce It would have being foolish for Judas to ask for the common means of exchange of equal value .... the Pharisee Jesus addressed in Matt 23:23 paid tithes on every increase that came their way not just crop and Jesus referred to that practiced when he spoke to them There was no single means of exchange then |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by nairanaira12: 8:42am On Nov 24, 2017 |
lovetruth:The problem is you don't really read your Bible. Even the place he quoted, your mind is so blinded by pastor-sentiments while reading it that you failed to grasp all the essential points. If you had read it well, you wouldn't ask this question. It was fully answered in that place. Why do you pastor slaves choose to worship your pastors more than God? You are even ready to reject /manipulate /misinterpret any part of the Bible that goes against your pastor. Is that the kind of Christianity Jesus and the apostles laid down for you to follow? Are you guys real Christians or bunch of self-seeking hypocrites? |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Nobody: 8:42am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:Though am nt a xtian, but i do not think collecting or receiving the tithe that is the problem. The main issue is who should benefit from tithe? As mentioned in verse 29 you qouted, are these set of people that benefits from tithes today? How should tithe be paid, yearly or monthly ? |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by nairanaira12: 8:44am On Nov 24, 2017 |
goldedprince:Deuteronomy 14 : 22-27. |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by xest(m): 8:45am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:OP let me ask u, since you started paying ur so called tithe, has ur room filled up with money, foodstuffs, clothes that u can't even accommodate? Or hav ur bank officer called u n tell u to Com and transfer out some of ur money out from ur bank to another bank cos is filled up Am waiting for ur reply, in respect to ur quotes in malachi, were u said God will bless so much dt u can't accommodate d blessings |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Themandator: 8:45am On Nov 24, 2017 |
uyplus:Go and read that Malachi again... bring he all the tithe that there might be MEAT .... can you convert yam to meat..... Matt 10:10 Jesus told his disciples not to take coat, scrip, shoe nor staves for every Workman is worthy of his MEAT.... HOW does shoe, cost etc becomes MEAT? |
| Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by nairanaira12: 8:47am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Themandator:Still, that place didn't support giving tithe to your pastor. Stop going round in a circle. Giving pastor your tithe is not biblical. |
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Am waiting for ur reply, in respect to ur quotes in malachi, were u said God will bless so much dt u can't accommodate d blessings