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Jesusgirl92:
Not everyone one who quotes the scriptures is a man of God.... Note that!!! Thanks.

babablogger:
Judging others


All FRZ is doing is stating facts backed with facts from the bible, but all everyone has done is castigate him


I'm yet to see European and American pastors lay emphasis on tithes as their Nigerian counterparts

Nigerian pastors would keep getting richer and they keep preaching about vanity bla bla bla

Until you understand what placebo and Necebo means, it's only then you'll understand the strategy of tithing

OBAGADAFFI:
My friend run along.
Am I practicing my faith based on claims and facts.

Anybody can quote the Bible to support anything, that's why Christianity is a personal faith.

generaliy:
Freeze doesn't preach the Bible, he preaches a mutilated version, or rather, he mutilates the bible.

And you know why Freeze gains large followers? It's explained in the Bible...

"Having itching ears, they gather up teachers unto themselves"...

babablogger:
Judging others


All FRZ is doing is stating facts backed with facts from the bible

generaliy:
It is so painful to realise that a backsliding man who has fallen from the faith and some entirely non-believing wretched sinners are now creating "standards" for the church to discuss or debate, it is a pain too much to bear for anyone who understands what the church should be doing presently in the programme of God.

It is more painful to see supposed Christians carried away by "Every wind of doctrine", making a shipwreck of their faith after reading a few well crafted doctrinal errors laced with generous overdose of heresies.

The problem of the church is fundamental, it is not spontaneous as it seems, it is a gradual, systematic, stealth but not invisible departure from the basics, a gradual lowering of standards, a shift from the pattern as laid by the early Apostles...depth in the word seems not to matter anymore, and we created trouble, without knowing it, or maybe we knew, but we just felt it's not much of a trouble and played indifference.

This is like the proverbial iroko tree hitherto left to thrive by the landowner's indifference, which later grows into a sacrifice-demanding demi god, we are all paying the price for our consistent inconsistencies, our unattended "minors", we all nurtured this demonic iroko to its present height, only to discover it's a harbinger of terror, horror and pain!

The church has departed from systematic study of the scriptures, searching the scriptures now seems tedious and unattractive, in its stead, we have created events, several of them, it is not uncommon to see banners after banners, from Oshodi to Ojota, from Allen to Ajah, promoting shows after shows, music shows, comedy shows, business sessions, and what have you, seeing a church banner of events dedicated solely to bible studies is now harder than having a camel pass through the needle eye!

Brother "A" is new in church, in our bid to prevent the next church adjacent our's from snatching him, we give him positions meant for the bone-chewers while he's yet to master the art of digesting milk properly, we award Phd honours to elementary level Christians, shame!

We have consequences, Pastors who are barely born again, Christians without root, easily swayed, not unflinching in convictions, they rely on the next CDs from "Papa", and bingo, add from knowledge gained from some motivational classes, the Bible is just an addition to support their speeches of errors and intrinsic balderdash, the church yells at their mastery of choice words, somebody shouts hallelujah, they're urged to ride on and preach more, yet rhema is alien to the man on the pulpit, basic scriptural convictions are replaced with "philosophies of men so called"!

The only solution to these fundamentals is the Holy Spirit, unfortunately, He has been largely impersonated and extensively misrepresented, the blubbering in senseless conjuction of "Skabash" and "Yadoosa" has been sold to millions as the Spirit of Yahweh, no, that's no Yahweh spirit, it's purely "Yahoo", fraudulent tongues in the name of Jesus!

If you're lucky to find yourself in a Bible believing church (There can be differences in administration, doctrines are NOT meant to differ, the Bible is ONE and should remain so), dig and keep digging for more rhema, if you're not convinced in your spirit (Your pastors do not rebuke you for your sins, instead, you're rewarded and applauded because you can easily drop seeds ans commitments) then find your way out quickly, very quickly!

If and only if you could get to the extent of being deeply rooted, a million Daddy freeze will no longer be your challenge, rather, you'll be challenged to pray for him to see the light, you'll not curse his soul, you'll take it to his maker in prayers!

Ilesanmi Iyanu Samuel writes from Lagos, Nigeria.

An2elect2:
God uses instruments or means but when did we start ascribing his deeds to mortals who "single-handedly..."

Yes God uses men to reach other men as He has ordained but men/means are dispensable because God can still reach us without them.
The point is God is the one delivering and saving people, whatever He uses to do that should not give anyone the guts to deny Him as the only one responsible for our salvation

I know that "holiness" Kumuyi preaches. It is not what Hebrews describes as holiness. The Holiness the bible speaks of is rooted in the finished work of Christ. Kumuyi's is based on "doing good to earn heaven" which is another gospel entirely. A false one

Same way we are commanded to repent even though repentance is a gift of God

Its not the Holy spirit of the Bible. God is not an author of confusion.

sonsomegrigbo:
not at all! He's one of the Messiah of the gullible sheep, old and young, male and female...

Firstcitizen:
Nigerians are even more greedy than their Pastors and the pastors understand and prey on this weakness.

Those that tithe do so with impure hearts only because they believe they will get interest pressed together and running over just like Mavrodi preached to them not too long ago. Greedy people.

A man drives to church and his gateman opens the gate for him, he see his needy neighbours carrying kegs to fetch water a mile away. Right on his rear view mirror, he sights his overhead tank connected to his borehole which has unlimited water, he ignores them and goes to church to pay tithes of hundreds of thousands.

He is not interested in the kingdom of God but financial reward.

Let the pastors continue to take their money. Greedy Fools.

generaliy:
It is so painful to realise that a backsliding man who has fallen from the faith and some entirely non-believing wretched sinners are now creating "standards" for the church to discuss or debate, it is a pain too much to bear for anyone who understands what the church should be doing presently in the programme of God.

It is more painful to see supposed Christians carried away by "Every wind of doctrine", making a shipwreck of their faith after reading a few well crafted doctrinal errors laced with generous overdose of heresies.

The problem of the church is fundamental, it is not spontaneous as it seems, it is a gradual, systematic, stealth but not invisible departure from the basics, a gradual lowering of standards, a shift from the pattern as laid by the early Apostles...depth in the word seems not to matter anymore, and we created trouble, without knowing it, or maybe we knew, but we just felt it's not much of a trouble and played indifference.

This is like the proverbial iroko tree hitherto left to thrive by the landowner's indifference, which later grows into a sacrifice-demanding demi god, we are all paying the price for our consistent inconsistencies, our unattended "minors", we all nurtured this demonic iroko to its present height, only to discover it's a harbinger of terror, horror and pain!

The church has departed from systematic study of the scriptures, searching the scriptures now seems tedious and unattractive, in its stead, we have created events, several of them, it is not uncommon to see banners after banners, from Oshodi to Ojota, from Allen to Ajah, promoting shows after shows, music shows, comedy shows, business sessions, and what have you, seeing a church banner of events dedicated solely to bible studies is now harder than having a camel pass through the needle eye!

Brother "A" is new in church, in our bid to prevent the next church adjacent our's from snatching him, we give him positions meant for the bone-chewers while he's yet to master the art of digesting milk properly, we award Phd honours to elementary level Christians, shame!

We have consequences, Pastors who are barely born again, Christians without root, easily swayed, not unflinching in convictions, they rely on the next CDs from "Papa", and bingo, add from knowledge gained from some motivational classes, the Bible is just an addition to support their speeches of errors and intrinsic balderdash, the church yells at their mastery of choice words, somebody shouts hallelujah, they're urged to ride on and preach more, yet rhema is alien to the man on the pulpit, basic scriptural convictions are replaced with "philosophies of men so called"!

The only solution to these fundamentals is the Holy Spirit, unfortunately, He has been largely impersonated and extensively misrepresented, the blubbering in senseless conjuction of "Skabash" and "Yadoosa" has been sold to millions as the Spirit of Yahweh, no, that's no Yahweh spirit, it's purely "Yahoo", fraudulent tongues in the name of Jesus!

If you're lucky to find yourself in a Bible believing church (There can be differences in administration, doctrines are NOT meant to differ, the Bible is ONE and should remain so), dig and keep digging for more rhema, if you're not convinced in your spirit (Your pastors do not rebuke you for your sins, instead, you're rewarded and applauded because you can easily drop seeds ans commitments) then find your way out quickly, very quickly!

If and only if you could get to the extent of being deeply rooted, a million Daddy freeze will no longer be your challenge, rather, you'll be challenged to pray for him to see the light, you'll not curse his soul, you'll take it to his maker in prayers!

Ilesanmi Iyanu Samuel writes from Lagos, Nigeria.

Jsaviour:
Still beating around the Bush. Christains and pastors have dealth with people enough and just a dose of what they have been doing to others they are crying foul. Some will even tell you how you will go to hell if you don't pay tithe or how you will remain poor. Isn't that enough cursing already. Now that they just touched only tithe aspect you guys are bleeding already. You have seen nothing yet, more are coming

Hiccups:


@op, your initial choice of words makes your write up difficult to read. You begin by playing the role of God, judging Freeze as a fallen man, you lost it. I don't know Freeze but he's not different from any man of God. Your pastor preach from the Bible, Freeze uses same Bible. What is your basis of judging him? The problem with religious issues is that most followers lacks the needed faculty to reason or are just scared of doing so.

Edu3Again:
The devil always misquoted the bible, that's why Jesus always corrected him.

Please tell us where Freeze misquoted the bible and correct us.

petra1:
It’s a spirit of the last day . Satan is testing his plans but it has failed . It’s amazing that the people support him are so blind to read the Bible for themselves

Jesusgirl92:
At bolded, the devil tempted Jesus three times.... The words he tempted Jesus with were from where? THE SCRIPTURES.... Not everyone one who quotes the scriptures is a man of God.... Note that!!! Thanks.

successinlife:
Take it or leave it,Freeze is a biased fellow.Nigeria is having challenges in all facets of life,religion,administration,sports,development and all.I am not in a situation to judge him or the churches on tithes.My problem with Freeze is that he thinks he is superior because of his mixed race.I listened to him once saying that he pitied Nigeria basketball team after the 2012 Olympics because of the record created with the team by USA team,on another ocassion he talks about the development in Romania as compared to Nigeria.
I know Romanian history more than Freeze,They have not qualified or played in any basketball world cup or in olympicssince their existence
,cote a cote in football considering our unseriousness,bad administration etc,with due respect Romania is never in the same rank in the world of sports,any of the sport at all.Is it not the Romanian gypsies chased away by every country in Europe seeking survival?they are so backward that they prefer building make shifts buildings inside the bush and never go to school.His arrogance was part of why basket mouth blast him saying he is light because of eczema and he is not a white guy.Another gypsy in Ghana is causing similar uproar,to the extent of showing his manhood on public television programme just to proove he doesn't wear underwear.Whatever is making him to fight or argue on tithe is not my problem.The issue i have with him is that he should respect african insitution and fight for it's growth and not sabotage where he is getting his daily bread,is he even known in Romania?this is why i respect most of the half casts that wear Naija colours,they could have turned the country down because of lack of proper machinery but they look at the positive side of things and decide to contribute their quote to the development of their father land.

If Freeze were to be Bob Marley,he would have attached himself to the side of his oyinbo father and jettisoned fighting the course of the black men,rather Bob Marley saw the injustice and stood for the mother black race in him. Freeze should stop his unguided utterances and count himself lucky to be among us.

generaliy:
FUTA, why ask?

angelbulksms:
Mr, whether D. Freeze, a renowned OAP is now a Man of God to you simply because he reads the bible or attended a Bible School or whatever is your basis for defining him in such manner; truth remains that he exploited the leniency of Christianity to muddle with sacred things of worship.

OBAGADAFFI:
My friend Holiness is simply total obedience to God and living a sinless life.
No sinner would make heaven.


Lol, repentance is not a gift from God, repentance is an action of remorse from a sinner.
God's forgiveness is the gift after the sinner repent.



The Holy spirit of the Bible is the same Holy Spirit Jesus Promised Christians and First experienced at Pentecost.

hahn:
This would have made a whole lot of sense if Jehovah/Jesus actually exist(ed)

It is pitiful how an African man can take Jewish mythology serious

Damn, the European slave traders really did a number on us

nkemdi89:
His opinion is giving the Christendom a lot of concerns, even my pastor today made reference to it, and they perceive him as a devil trying to bring confusion into the system. The bottom line is that the issue of tithing according to the book of Malachi is an obligation which Christians need to abide to, and freeze is too small to challenge our doctrines, at the end we shall see.

Inspire01:
Religion itself is the biggest problem of Nigeria, freeze has right to his opinion and if u don't like it that's ur headache.

An2elect2:
Lol i'll just allow you come through this tithiing lie first. When God wills to have mercy on you, basic bible truths would be lay bare before you.

Till then, salvation, holiness, repentance and everything that we need are in Christ. And Christ is the gift of life given to whoever God wills. Till then.

generaliy:
Freeze doesn't preach the Bible, he preaches a mutilated version, or rather, he mutilates the bible.

And you know why Freeze gains large followers? It's explained in the Bible...

"Having itching ears, they gather up teachers unto themselves"...

generaliy:
You are yet to prove by any means that paying tithes is wrong, you didn't give any "fact and figure" whatsoever, so what exactly are you saying?

The time you folks use in attacking the church, if spent towards capacity building and self improvement, Nigeria would be a better place!