but why are pastors concerned if members dont pay tithe
there are so many things pastors should be bothered about apart in nig
killings, fornication rituals yahoo etc

I've said it again and again that ADEBOLE is a grade one criminal, that guy greedy tendency will never change.
I tell you for free that ADEBOLE will die fast if the gullible followers stop paying tithe, Ole is Ole no matter how he disguises.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADEBOYE N YAHOO BOYS?

Pastor Adeboye, God speaks to everybody as long as we all have his spirit. Same God told other Christians that you are extorting them.

obailala:
Freeze spoke exactly of what is written in the Bible, I wonder what else is God's opinion if not what's written in the bible. Did you say a person who goes by what's clearly written in the bible doesn't really believe in Christ?... but rather the one who listens to his pastor's 'revelations'?

As a Christian and even importantly, as an educated and enlightened person, have you bothered to ask yourself how come NO ONE has still been able fault most of those things said by Freeze using the scriptures?... Arent you concerned that every single response to Freeze so far has only fallen into 2 categories?

1. Attack Freeze's personality/character (argumentum ad hominem), call him names, claim he is a divorcee and a wife beater, claim he isn't a born again believer and so therefore, has no right or authority to even read or comprehend what's written in the bible.

2. To say the laws of mandatory tithing for new covenant gentile believers is a 'revelation' given to them by God. Apparently it was inadvertently skipped from the bible. So God has had to add that mandatory command through personal revelations to modern day believers.

I see you're enlightened.


I'm not interested in FRZ's personality, whether old or new testament , God said to bring all tithes to his house. if the scripture said it, I believe it. I do it no questions asked.



like I said earlier, I'm not God's auditor.

so I don't question the scripture whether Jesus talked about it or not. Jesus said I did not come to abolish the law but to perfect it.


so I don't choose somethings to do. I'm not perfect and I don't talk as such but its really bad to twist God's injunction for a person.


if pastors buy private jets with my tithe, praise God, my tithe is helping the Gospel whether in Nigeria or abroad. I'm not bothered about it, call me gullible its okay.

praise God. my life is moving forward.


its not because of the my tithe only but I already possess the blessing. and because of the blessing I tithe.



important point

I AM NOT GOD'S AUDITOR neither is FRZ

MEILYN:
Why won't tithing be right when you are at the receiving end.

lwkmd I'm done with the internet

afilaka:
I dont know why some people are so pained on this tithe issue. Is any one forcing you to pay tithe, we that are paying it, are we complaining? So whats the fuss all about. IF YOU ARE AGAINST TITHING FOR NO SENSIBLE OR JUSTIFIED REASON, YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL.

The people that are pained are the GO AND PASTORS

UbanmeUdie:




My father! My father!!

Ride on sir!

Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.

Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.

And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).

Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?

I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.

Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.

Grace is the divine ability to do God's will without limitation where ordinarily, men would fail. Grace rides on the wheels of Mercy.

It is this mercy (divine pardon) that everyone enjoys today as a result of the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary. That is why, when many ought to have died instantly after committing a sin, they live on. Mercy suspends at outright almost instant consequence for sin and gives many chances for repentance.


The death of Jesus didn't abolish tithing because if it does, then it also abolished the sin of murder, idolatory and fornication.

His death only grants us divine pardon from the immediate consequences of sin.


I stand with Daddy G.O

Lost sheep of israel will always remain Sheep and only the Shepherd knows how to feast on Sheep because shepherd owns sheep and no matter how much of sense you speak into the gullible minds it will never makes impact ,because naturally,sheep are made naive,foolish and gullible,Daddy freeze ! dont waste your time

I think this topic is becoming very toxic as the arguments linger on.

In my opinion - giving tithe is not wrong; not giving tithe is equally not wrong. It’s a personal decision to make, but u do not commit a sin if you give tithe or choose not to give (I am not quoting a bible here, there is no use because the same bible can be manipulated to serve your own interests).

Now you may choose to give your tithe to a church, that’s a personal decision. You may also choose to give to the less privileged too, which ever satisfies your heart.

However, the emphasis should not be on tithe, but what are churches doing with the tithe funds generated from members. Members have donated their tithe to assist with God’s work, but are churches actually carrying out God’s work or are they satisfying the personal interest of the Trustees of the Church?

Evidence abound shows that churches are growing in other business segments other than propagating the ministry. They are building schools with exorbitant fees, they are buying jets and luxury cars, some are even have microfinance banks and hotels. All these are not the core objectives of churches. These funds raised should be used positively. There are many issues in the society that requires attention, but we don’t see the Nigerian church spearheading solutions.

Presently, only TB Joshua is currently assisting with relocating Nigerian migrants in Libya back home and also providing them with funds. Why are the rest pretending like they are unaware of the situation. This is why a lot of people are frowning towards gifting your money to a church. I don’t think tithing is wrong, whether you support your claim biblically or not, but what are these funds used for after they are being contributed. I think churches deserve to explain this to their members.

May God help us

UbanmeUdie:




My father! My father!!

Ride on sir!

Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.

Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.

And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).

Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?

I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.

Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.

Grace is the divine ability to do God's will without limitation where ordinarily, men would fail. Grace rides on the wheels of Mercy.

It is this mercy (divine pardon) that everyone enjoys today as a result of the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary. That is why, when many ought to have died instantly after committing a sin, they live on. Mercy suspends at outright almost instant consequence for sin and gives many chances for repentance.


The death of Jesus didn't abolish tithing because if it does, then it also abolished the sin of murder, idolatory and fornication.

His death only grants us divine pardon from the immediate consequences of sin.


I stand with Daddy G.O

who is freez? had he ever thought anyone how to make money? Now he teaches me how to spend my hard earned money. My today's tithe was a wad of MINT 1k notes. Thanks to gtb that made it available. GOD THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING IT. satan,oya,you can go and die

lankieman:
Yeah

kikikiki where are u ppl finding these hilarious memes for Christ sake

afilaka:
I dont know why some people are so pained on this tithe issue. Is any one forcing you to pay tithe, we that are paying it, are we complaining? So whats the fuss all about. IF YOU ARE AGAINST TITHING FOR NO SENSIBLE OR JUSTIFIED REASON, YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL.

SURE CLIENT!!!

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My father! My father!!

Ride on sir!

Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.

Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.

And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).

Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?

I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.

Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.

Another foolish church GOER you are. Do you think your g.o belong to GOD ,MTCHEWWW,you are doomed.

He should tell us exactly which God is it. 2Cor. 11:14
The thing is, many of these people claim to hear voices, but they failed to forget that God doesn't speak to everyone, or anyone (as times have changed)
If you compare their lifestyle with Jesus' examples and the principles found in the Bible, many people should unsentimentally condemn the lies and baseless stories of these self acclaimed men of God. Psalm Chapter 15 gives basic qualities of people who can form lasting friendship with the true God...these people do not exhibit an ounce of the expectations.
Voice of God indeed!

otokx:
Stop tithe in Nigeria and see 95% of business churches fold up.

well said

Errrmmm...sorry. Sorry to derail...but this right here is poo. Very very very poo. As in super poo. That verse you quoted and the interpretation u gave are like oil and water. Just to let you know.

'No one comes to the father except through me' does not mean God does not speak directly to men anymore. It simply means one's initial access to God, knowledge and salvation can only be through Jesus. Go and read the entire scripture surrounding that text and you will understand. It can be very misleading to read a line of scripture in isolation.

And by the way, if you are a Christian and the Holy Spirit (who is essentially part of the Godhead) does not speak to u, then i dont know what type of Christian that is.

NuclearWinter:
Fake pastor.

If you were a true Christian as you claim, you will know the verse that states "no one comes to the father unless through me".

God does not speak directly to men since Jesus ascension.

There are no more prophets after Jesus and so whoever you spoke with is not th God of Bible but the same evil spirit that possessed Mohammed

UbanmeUdie:




My father! My father!!

Ride on sir!

Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.

Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.

And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).

Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?

I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.

Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.

Grace is the divine ability to do God's will without limitation where ordinarily, men would fail. Grace rides on the wheels of Mercy.

It is this mercy (divine pardon) that everyone enjoys today as a result of the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary. That is why, when many ought to have died instantly after committing a sin, they live on. Mercy suspends at outright almost instant consequence for sin and gives many chances for repentance.


The death of Jesus didn't abolish tithing because if it does, then it also abolished the sin of murder, idolatory and fornication.

His death only grants us divine pardon from the immediate consequences of sin.


I stand with Daddy G.O

. As a friend, I would advice you stand with Jesus because we have seen so many inconsistencies in the doctrine if G.Os.e.g putting on trouser is a sin but do you still think it is a sin today?? a G.O once said watching of t.v is a sin but does he still see it as a sin today?? not covering of hair to the church is a sin but do you still consider it a sin today? my guess is when the G.O came up with those doctrines, many members said "I stand with my G.O".

The most annoying part of this post is that muslims are commenting, meanwhile, we are not allowed to comment on theirs ,except u pledge to be with them, but they come here freely and run their mouth. To every christain mod in nairaland, i hope your conscience feels good about that.

fakeprophet:

the share has it

yet they might be wrong

Abudu2000:
SURE CLIENT!!!

You are obviously a muslim, so wont waste much of anything on you.

There is no problem with tithing if well applied for humanity and the church.

My only concern is the looting ,by businessmen pastors.


I think this should be the focus of discus.

orisa37:
I believe him because he sees God often and he is always delivering Messages directly from God.

You are also a child of God, no less than anyone else.

If God wants to speak to you, he won't use an intermediary.

This is actually a non-issue.

Let everyone be convinced in their own minds.

To tithe is neither wrong nor right.

Just follow your conviction.

For the records, I don't believe in tithing and I don't condemn those who tithe.

It's their money.

afilaka:
The most annoying part of this post is that muslims are commenting, meanwhile, we are not allowed to comment on theirs ,except u pledge to be with them, but they come here freely and run their mouth. To every christain mod in nairaland, i hope your conscience feels good about that.

by Muslims I assume u r referring to me coz of my moniker, I'm a baptized xtian of, I already asked seen to review my moniker already

You pay your tithe, good for you, you don't pay, Na you sabi. As for me, I am a proud tither, and I still give room for charity. I engage this kingdom principles and I have never known a better yesterday. If you like allow a yoyo like daddy freeze dictate what you should or should not do.

afilaka:


You are obviously a muslim, so wont waste much of anything on you.

I'm a xtian 100, I just bear a Muslim surname, i ans an English name so u can't use that as an escape route

I just received the Word for tithe payers



Colossians 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;

Colossians 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; 3:24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.

ces't finir

This is the point. Nothing else.

Boss13:



However, the emphasis should not be on tithe, but what are churches doing with the tithe funds generated from members. Members have donated their tithe to assist with God’s work, but are churches actually carrying out God’s work or are they satisfying the personal interest of the Trustees of the Church?

Yoruba fraudulent pastors

UbanmeUdie:




My father! My father!!

Ride on sir!

Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.

Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.

And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).

Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?

I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.

Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.

Grace is the divine ability to do God's will without limitation where ordinarily, men would fail. Grace rides on the wheels of Mercy.

It is this mercy (divine pardon) that everyone enjoys today as a result of the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary. That is why, when many ought to have died instantly after committing a sin, they live on. Mercy suspends at outright almost instant consequence for sin and gives many chances for repentance.


The death of Jesus didn't abolish tithing because if it does, then it also abolished the sin of murder, idolatory and fornication.

His death only grants us divine pardon from the immediate consequences of sin.


I stand with Daddy G.O

Maga, keep paying. If u no pay hw dem go take buy more private jets.
On a more serious note are u aware Dat Abraham gave a tithe if the spoil he got from war and not his earned money. Again he only did it once out of his free will and not regularly after being brainwashed like u sheeple.
For the levites Dat u mentioned it may interest you to know Dat they were not permitted to get inheritance like their other brothers because their only inheritance was God's work in the temple. They where not permitted to farm, trade or do any other thing outside gods work. Yet the were to bring a tenth part of wat they get as tithe to the priest who puts it in the temple so that there will be meat and food for those that ministers in that temple. At a point the priest stopped bringing Dat tenth part to the temple and that was wen ur popular malachi 3:10 was addressed to the priest. That verse wey dem take they deceive u wa actually addressed to these priest. To understand, start to read malachi from chapter 2. Also read Nehemiah 10:38 and numbers 18:21, 24 and 26. Whether u go gree wise

UbanmeUdie:




My father! My father!!

Ride on sir!

Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.

Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.

And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).

Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?

I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.

Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.

Grace is the divine ability to do God's will without limitation where ordinarily, men would fail. Grace rides on the wheels of Mercy.

It is this mercy (divine pardon) that everyone enjoys today as a result of the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary. That is why, when many ought to have died instantly after committing a sin, they live on. Mercy suspends at outright almost instant consequence for sin and gives many chances for repentance.


The death of Jesus didn't abolish tithing because if it does, then it also abolished the sin of murder, idolatory and fornication.

His death only grants us divine pardon from the immediate consequences of sin.


I stand with Daddy G.O

Is tithing among the ten commandments?

NuclearWinter:
Fake pastor.

If you were a true Christian as you claim, you will know the verse that states "no one comes to the father unless through me".

God does not speak directly to men since Jesus ascension.

There are no more prophets after Jesus and so whoever you spoke with is not th God of Bible but the same evil spirit that possessed Mohammed

That how you people start fight , why mention my beloved mohammed now being possessed by evil spirit.When fanatic starts beheading innocent people you will be saying islam is evil.by now you should have known muslims dont play with muhammed, we wont even allow a fly to pech on him talk less of insulting him.

please desist from this , you can transfer all your aggression to me but not my beloved prophet
Thank you

meanwhile you are invited to islam , tithte in form of zakat is cheaper 2.5% annually as opossed to 10% monthly , choose wisely

Oga tithe is wrong for us as a law... You can tithe 1/10th as a covenant voluntarily but not as a law as our pastors preach.. They are thieves.. They have brainwashed many people to tithe out of dear of God cursing them.. Meanwhile.. They are not eligible to receive tithe because they are not levite.. If you want to tithe.. Give to the poor... For it is written in the Bible. "whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, so you do unto me"

EricMason:
I don’t think anybody is saying tithing is wrong, I think from freez perspective is how it’s been used by the church ⛪ leaders or elders. Yes givers give tithe to the church or organization, what do they use it for? Buy private jets and mansions and living a 5 star first class lifestyle that none apostle in the Bible has ever lived? Come on religion