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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:55pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
komekn:then he should rest in his house and allow people who still have young careers to use the Super Eagles to grow. He doesn't need the team, so why the hell is anyone forcing him on a team that CLEARLY does not need him as well? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:55pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Kog45: Anybody wey carry "PRO" and "ANTI" for him head na him sabi o. Some people can defend their favorite players here for Africa. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:00pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Icon4s:In football world there are terms we used that only us can interprete it and the term OLDEST used by GOKE7 was for longest serving player. I did not need anybody to tell me that before i know what he was trying to say. Truly he should have used longest but in this forum it's simple for us to understand. I don't think we need to debate it cos it's common in our opened arguments we always says he is the oldest meaning longest. Agreed on your point. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:00pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 1:02pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Icon4s: you have just cleared my doubt , i wanted to ask you about the case of Mikel in his club , , they considere him to be the captain based on his experience in the game ... alot of factors determines who shoulder the team .... sometimes it has to do with someone with a lot of influence . a typical example of such captain is late Stephen Keshi . |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:03pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Kog45: Are you sure he didn't imply oldest by age? Goke7 oya come clear the air here. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:06pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Icon4s:Oga icon4s even respected monikers don join the queue, no much information again on the thread.Some of us open the thread to look for info and share ideas. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:07pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Icon4s:see me see trouble o. Martins does not need the Super Eagles The Super Eagles does not need Martins So, why is he a topic of discussion? Na so dem tell us say Odemwingie wan do charity for NFF in 2014. There is NO active player that will not want to join a team for the World Cup, if today you tell Gareth Bale that he can join the Nigerian team for the Wold Cup, he will join. So, why is someone making Martins out to be one honest, humble guy that wants to offer his service to help a supposedly weak team? Dem dey talk as if Martins no go follow collect World Cup bonus 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 1:07pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
forgiveness:I do not argue to win arguments, I argue to learn. I'm of the opinion that Ike uche did nothing special when he was invited, I presented my facts, if you have a superior argument, present it and stop harping on one penalty goal like a broken record. Ike uche played against congo, Emenike earned a penalty, ike uche stepped up and scored. Without uche that penalty would have been earned, without uche, there is a high probability the penalty would have been converted. In the second half, Aaron Samuel was introduced and he scored. Without uche he would have still scored In the game against south Africa Sone Aluko scored 2 brilliant goals. Without uche he would have scored. So what exactly was the special thing uche did that we would not have done without him? He simply did not live up to the hype. Before his invitation, he was hyped as the prince that was promised, the press rolled out the red carpet, poets sang his praise, women from otueke to chibok threatened to protest naked if he wasn't invited. This was the kind of hype uche rode on to the Super Eagles camp, with that kind of hype he should be singlehandedly winning us 3 points but alas the only thing we remember him for is scoring a penalty he did not earn. Lecture me on how Ike uche swung in like super man and single-handedly qualify us for the nations cup. Speak, oh yea wise one, I am listening. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:11pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
mazimee: Why Onyekuru no score when he was given the chance? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 1:14pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
forgiveness: Iheanacho as a young player can still be pardoned but not a player of martins status. Why? Iheanacho still has a lot of years to play for the Eagles but not martins who is close to retirement. we can't afford a trial and error with martins for now when we have hungry younger players who are looking for just 10 mins, how much chance have we given to the likes of kayode and onyekuru before we talk about martins. You've been crying out for the likes of Kayode nah 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:15pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Icon4s:I'm talking of age.Keshi captained Eagles at the age of 22.Andrew Uwe did the same thing at the age 22.They remained the youngest players to do so,generally we have better captain than Uwe. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 1:15pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Anticipating International Friendly Nigeria vs England June, 2018 Last fixture: 16 years ago 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:18pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
SerVik: Without Ikechukwu Uche no 2013 Afcon trophy. Chai! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 1:20pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Icon4s: oh sorry I don't know that this was a bone of contention, I simply mean a player who came into the Eagles fold earlier, looks like both martins and mikel came in same time if I remember right? so based on that can we say who is actually more senior? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:29pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Goke7: Martins came in before Mikel. But Mikel has stayed longest in the team by virtue of his number of appearances. Martins has been on and off. But also Ogbeche came in before Enyeama and if Ogbeche makes the team who would you say is more Senior between him and Enyeama? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:33pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enigmaticmotik(m): 1:40pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Icon4s: No, you didn't understand what he said. It's more like you are as old in a team as the time spent in with the team since your debut. Which means notwithstanding Balogun's age he is young in the SE compared to the players you listed above 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:44pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
enigmaticmotik:God bless you |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eligreat247: 1:46pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
mazimee: Funny, must they come up with an excuse for failure? Just to claim they are not supposed to lose to Nigeria. From this post I can deduce that He is the one making an excuse for his team because when he asked his team mates that "what happened"? its not indicated where the players said its because they thought of him. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 1:48pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
forgiveness:Uche did not score a single goal at Afcon 2013. Pray tell, how did he help win the trophy? Even echiejile had more goals than Uche in that Afcon. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 1:49pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
forgiveness: he's still young, I can tolerate him but not martins, |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:50pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Kog45:There's nothing more delicate for us to guide than the team spirit. We can fail tactically on the pitch and still win matches but if we fail in maintaining the team spirit we will achieve nothing even if we have Gaurdiola as our coach. France in 2010 WC, Italy in Euro 2008, Ghana, Nigeria and Cameroun have suffered from disaffection that destroys harmony in the team. We cannot afford to make that mistake again. That being said does Martins have a record of insubordination like the rest you have mentioned? I feel Rohr will invite him to assuage his supporters but still drop him for the final cut. But question is what if he performs well? 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 1:52pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
How can you call a very young player a flop just because he didn't perform in his first game for Super Eagles ? You can say he didn't live up to expectations or underperformed but a "flop". So much hate and its very disgusting. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 1:52pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Icon4s: ok so martins senior mikel be that sefini, ogbeche senior enyeama be that. In Nigeria, in work places especially the civil service under which structure the eagles is being managed, seniority is by who go into the service earlier. Simple 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enigmaticmotik(m): 1:57pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Kog45: Well said sir. Always having good contributions to make (same with Multhahida). Any word from TheSuperNerd? I've missed the young doctor 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 1:59pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Martins got issues with Eguavoen for failing to turn up for a particular tie if I remember well. Truth is the coaches and the nff still knows this players more than us on this forum, the fact that we hardly hear in in the media does not mean stuff don't happen in the team off the pitch even wikipedia has it on record where martins failed to turn up for some matches despite being invited. Some off the pitch issues in the past with nff officials especially in a match against Namibia if I remember is one major reason no nff official will want Enyeama near the eagles ahain and even enyeama himself knows this. I still insist that any player older than mikel both in age, in long serving in the national team and not part of the wcq should be left out for now. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:19pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Goke7: Consider how you are thinking and rationalising motivation and determination. Using your sense of reasoning that means Ronaldo, Messi and Danny Alves after achieving everything they are no longer motivated for excellence. Furthermore that the main determinant of hunger motivation and desire to win is being young. That's waste basket reasoning. Isaac Success had a little money and what happened to his desire to win and succeed Those are nonsensical propositions with no substance what so ever. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:20pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Kog45: We keep recycling the same argument. I thought that after knowing our WC opponents our discussions and focus would shift in that line. But here we go again arguing over PRO and ANTI Martins. We have said every on that Let's leave Rohr to do the needful. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:21pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Goke7: So are we saying that if Ogbeche makes the team he becomes the captain? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 2:21pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
This issue about Martins should take a serious rest because our success in Russia is not dependent on his invitation neither did he contribute anything to our qualification. So, why all of a sudden news about Martins is circulating like Super Eagles are doing very badly and needed a Martin to save us ? We have everything we need to even win the danm world cup if we work harder and that team spirit must not be tampered with. I know Martins from his early days at Inter Milan and he was phenomenal but its been over ten years and we DO not need his services, as it stands. Why did you not call for his invitation during the primaries and why did you think Rohr sidelined him? Enough with this Obafemi Martins town criers. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:26pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Obafemi Martins played part in our WC qualification to Russia 2018 EOD Who no know must know now. |
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