SIRTee15:


150k can only make u barely comfortable in a low key city in naija.....
it can never make u rich....
someone earning 60k dollars can afford to buy a new car....
#150k per month cant secure u a 1.5million naira tokunbo......
u will safe and safe and safe....
u guys talk as if we don't know what obtain in both worlds....

remember...
what has been seen can not be unseen....
naija overseas remits 32 billion dollars every year....
a big succour to many families in Nigeria.....

RedGold2017:
Please also add health insurance..nothing is free in America..and nope that ain't part of your taxes..depending on plan that's another 70-100 bi-weekly which brings us to another 140-200 per month. He will do fine boy small abi e no go barb hair? let's say 50 per month..are you getting?...e go buy lotion, unless he wan dey look like person wey baff with elubo..deodorant...etc...miscellenous...

Qc1:


O ya,lets do the math. How much does average naija pay in bills per month?

Pidgin2:


From your comments I know you are hungry, angry, naive, sentimental and jobless. What else do I need to know?

Travelling to the West is your personal decision, same way others have the right to chose not to travel regardless of what your circumstance may be. It's their personal decision not yours.

justwise:


That is your savings, if you don't save from your earnings how are you able to send money to Nigeria?

maternal:


That's a whole different matter. If his family is making him broke, why is he here blaming America? Furthermore as he returned to naija, his family automatically stopped asking him for money? He's talking nonsense.

9jaDoc:


Bros there are people who actually have homes in both countries and go back and forth.

Without getting hysterical or emotional compare the following points one by one, US vs. Nig

1) rampant corruption everywhere
2) corrupt politicians
3) corrupt police
4) SARS
5) ritualists,
6) kidnappers,
7) conmen,
coolyahoo boys,
9) brazen robbers,
10) Boko Haram,
11) IPOB,
12) Delta Avengers,
13) baby factories,
14) child molesters,
15) child snatchers
16)human traffickers,
17) poor power supply,
18) ridiculous hospitals,
19) doctor strikes
20) poor schools, universities
21) poor infrastructure,
22) poor water supply,
23) poor waste disposal,
24) poor drainage system,
25) poor building inspection,
26) collapsing buildings,
27) dillapidated housing,
28) poor drug inspection,
29) poor food inspection,
30) poor environmentals
31) corrupt clearing and forwarding,
32) corrupt customs,
33) no mental healthcare
34) no provisions for handicapped people
35) corrupt legal system,
36) corrupt judiciary,
37) poor banking system, long lines
38)poor and corrupt monetary system,
39) Fulani herdsmen
40)military
41) aviation in general
42) MM Airport, Ikeja
43) Filthy and congested seaports (Apapa)
44) rampant strikes
45) fake everything
46) intermittent fuel scarcity
47) generator fumes and noise
48) corrupt FRSC
49) road blocks
50) Non-existent planned public transportation
51) fires and deaths from power surges
52) deaths from unsafe roads
53) In case of fire, long waits for poor response
54) In case of crime, long waits for police response
55) long waits for poorly equipped ambulances
56) very poor emergency healthcare
55) ineffective drug prescription system
56) totally corrupt govt bureaucracy
57) very poor public healthcare sector
58) poor crime investigation process
59) poor forensics
60) poor record-keeping process
61) poor and fraud-susceptible personal identification
62) non-availability of student loans and work-study
63) non-existent credit system
64) non-existent car rental system

9jaDoc:


No, Nigeria is not poor. Nigeria is corrupt and has a system that is inherently faulty

Beautyaddy:
Looooool!!!

You will be waiting forever to get timesup234 to respond to this post because he already knows he's just been posting out rubbish!!!

Pidgin2:


Thanks Prof. , sometimes we need to school these folks

babaskool:


Dear diasporan, firstly, I would like to thank you for your passion for Nigeria, I decided to move back to nigeria a year ago too after 7 years in the Uk. So I understand your anxiety in all ramifications.
Secondly ignore all the negative comments you see on this thread, only people who have left nigeria for years and see there is hardly anything a developed country can offer, only a developing country can provide the means by which ones investment can grow without endless Taxes,bills, social security contributions, medical insurance e.t.c

You have done well for yourself by saving up to 30k to invest in Nigeria and trust me with the right planning you would not go wrong, there are people living in Lagos who have the equivalent of 30k dollars in naira and they are not in politics or ever travelled to the US so how come they have 30k dollars in thier account.

So please ignore anyone who discrouages from coming back to invest in a country that would give you a Massive yield for your investment. It's better to be a king in your country than a mouse in someone else.

So back to the information you really need, your safe bet in Nigeria right now which can generate up to 50% yield is these 3 things : 1.education 2. Real estate 3. Petrol/filling station ...your capital of 30 k dollars is more than enough to do this ...

So like I said above in less than a year your business would have paid back it's 30k investment, the only serious setbacks of doing business in Nigeria is finding the right type of people to get you started not the cost of fuel or police brutality or lack of electricity or any of the things you see on twitter or cnn...

The full scenario of Nigeria is not what you see online, there are incredible opportunities here you would never see online cos it's very hard to describe the opportunities online to anyone ...
I don't think I can say everything on here since I moved back to Nigeria but first things first you would need to incorporate a Nigerian company. I am a Nigerian lawyer so I can help you with that as fast as you can say the word a certificate of incorporation. Thereafter we would have to help you with a domicillary account so your money can be moved across continents with ease .. In addition I could also help you with a certificate of capital importation ( this certficate allows you to transfer your current at the Cbn rate )

After this then your business or company is ready for any actual real investment possible ...also if you do not mind I have 3 detailed business proposals on the 3 ideal business I listed above which is 1. Building a small scale school (education ) 2 . Real estate (buying land or a building the finished product at a high margin house flipping it's called or 3. A petrol / filling station ( petrol stations in Nigeria make up to 400,000 naira in a day ( I have statistics to back this up ) so imagine building a petrol station with 30k dollars and making up to 1k dollars in sales in a day ...


In less than a month after you start operating you would thank God for leaving the US and coming to invest in Nigeria and not missing out on the Nigerians on twitter or fb ...cos real business is not on twitter or fb...it's here in Nigeria in particular when you get the right type of people to help you ....

This post is too long so pls contact so I can send the business proposals I have for you for free firstly then after I can advice you on the company matters so you can find out if these things I say are lies or not ....
Yours sincerely
Akinola eluyefa esq

grossintel:
OK, now I think you are just a secondary school kid trolling about stuff you don't know. I couldn't ignore your comments because it's full of lies and more lies and lies. How can 9m build you a filling station that can yield 400k profit a day? Is it not the same business I'm doing or do you mean drug business? You have no statistics to back that rubbish you quoted. Buying 30k/33k litters of pms alone is about 5m, and that will sell in about 2 weeks with depending on your location with an average profit of 100k except you mix it with SRG. The only profitable products are dpk and Ago, but that depends on your location and scarcity. No way you can justify making 400k daily on a petrol station built with 9m excluding operating costs that can take up 12m on products and a tanker. The best advise I can give the op is to relocate to Canada or Australia than to listen to kids like you.

erico2k2:

Ahah U just saw that troll ? Ahah I trashed his issue last night . He went 2 Senegal not the UK . He also said the German concrete needed is 1 inch thick . So this guy has no knowledge of simple addition then he said he is a lawyer . I dug to his past post that's where I discovered he was a phone accessories seller .

Beautyaddy:
Looooool!!!

You will be waiting forever to get timesup234 to respond to this post because he already knows he's just been posting out rubbish!!!

9jaDoc:


I posted it again. They must answer!

9jaDoc:
timesup234, pidgin2, wizard999, redgold2017, erico2k2
etc.
How dare u compare how things work in US to how they work in 9ja. THE TWO ARE SIMPLY NOT COMPARABLE!!

Forgetting your own personal experience (9jas have commited suicide in US too) or some anecdotal outlayers, sincerely look at the two SYSTEMS.

Remember there are people who actually have homes in both countries and go back and forth.

Without getting hysterical or emotional compare the following points one by one, US vs. Nig

1) rampant corruption everywhere
2) corrupt politicians
3) corrupt police
4) SARS
5) ritualists,
6) kidnappers,
7) conmen,
yahoo boys,
9) brazen robbers,
10) Boko Haram,
11) IPOB,
12) Delta Avengers,
13) baby factories,
14) child molesters,
15) child snatchers
16)human traffickers,
17) poor power supply,
18) ridiculous hospitals,
19) doctor strikes
20) poor schools, universities
21) poor infrastructure,
22) poor water supply,
23) poor waste disposal,
24) poor drainage system,
25) poor building inspection,
26) collapsing buildings,
27) dillapidated housing,
28) poor drug inspection,
29) poor food inspection,
30) poor environmentals
31) corrupt clearing and forwarding,
32) corrupt customs,
33) no mental healthcare
34) no provisions for handicapped people
35) corrupt legal system,
36) corrupt judiciary,
37) poor banking system, long lines
38)poor and corrupt monetary system,
39) Fulani herdsmen
40)military
41) aviation in general
42) MM Airport, Ikeja
43) Filthy and congested seaports (Apapa)
44) rampant strikes
45) fake everything
46) intermittent fuel scarcity
47) generator fumes and noise
48) corrupt FRSC
49) road blocks
50) Non-existent planned public transportation
51) fires and deaths from power surges
52) deaths from unsafe roads
53) In case of fire, long waits for poor response
54) In case of crime, long waits for police response
55) long waits for poorly equipped ambulances
56) very poor emergency healthcare
55) ineffective drug prescription system
56) totally corrupt govt bureaucracy
57) very poor public healthcare sector
58) poor crime investigation process
59) poor forensics
60) poor record-keeping process
61) poor and fraud-susceptible personal identification
62) non-availability of student loans and work-study
63) non-existent credit system
64) non-existent car rental system

RedGold2017:
You no lie, but just make sure your jazz strong pass and you never lose that job, car dealership will repo your car in a heartbeat if you are continuously behind on your payment. That plus depending on your credit by the time you finish paying , you could have bought 2 cars if you had cash.

See thats the slave trap America has gotten everyone onto. America is built on credit and the 1 percenters are the ones that are truly rich..1%. You think you are living good, until you lose your job and can't find one on time, and nope not everyone one will receive unemployment assistance, that's dependent on your status and is calculated based on how much you were earning. If you are lucky it will cover you rent and when collections call to collect car payment you will be speaking Hausa in no time.

SIRTee15:


150k can only make u barely comfortable in a low key city in naija.....
it can never make u rich....
someone earning 60k dollars can afford to buy a new car....
#150k per month cant secure u a 1.5million naira tokunbo......
u will safe and safe and safe....
u guys talk as if we don't know what obtain in both worlds....

remember...
what has been seen can not be unseen....
naija overseas remits 32 billion dollars every year....
a big succour to many families in Nigeria.....

u guyz keep hyping on upper class in Nigeria....
are they the only ones entitled to enjoy life....
forgetting there's something called middle class....
there are only 20 thousand millionaires in that country....
so, what happened to the remaining 180 million people outside that bracket income group......
these people work so hard everyday of the week only to be compensated with meagre at the end of the month....

the wealth and success of a nation depends on how much of it gets to the middle class....
something that is completely invisible in Nigeria....
Yet u want me to be happy with such country....
abeg, don't tell me nonsense.

timesup234:
Tell him to add to the list and make it over 100..and it won't change the fact that people die more in the United States than Nigeria. With over 2.7million people dying annually in the US., America is indeed a fourth world shithole

RedGold2017:
And you passed maths when you wrote WAEC...i'm dying of laughter here, save for taxes , all the other expenses are per month..so.multiply it as needed and see how much is left...kids..smh

Depending on location, $1200 Is pretty cheap for rent..
And he's not even adding other expenses, hair cut, clothing other miscellaneous expenses..

Alikote:
how much all those oyinbo they remit back to american from Nigeria MOBIL,TOTAL ,HALLIBURTON,SHOPRITE,DELTA AIRWAY,LUFTHANSA ,BRITISH AIRWAYS PZ,LEVER BROTHER,HENEKEN INTERNATIONAL ,PROCTOR AND GAMLE ,CHEVOLET,MICROSOFT ABACHA,DEZANI,guess that over 500bn dollar compare to the meager 32 bn by nigerians it also a succor to whie familes.,..some americans are even teaching in atiku university in bokoharam area

wonlasewonimi:


Are they dying because they lack adequate healthcare, food, social services or their brainfart gun laws. You need to expatiate.

RedGold2017:
Go through the thread and re-read my posts, nowhere have I made any comparisons. The point I have been harping on is that America is no heaven on earth and when I see people out of ignorance make choices that will marr them for life , I shake my head. By all means travel, I think travelling is education , even if Nigeria were perfect I would still travel. When you see the ignorance of ppl that have not left their home state , you will get my point. What I would never support is taking extreme measures to go and be burden in another man's land when they owe you nothing. People have made these ill choices some 30yrs ago with their then young kids in tow and now those kids are now adults and are being deported to a country they don't know anything about to BEGIN AGAIN, and if they are not ones that have worked or have been prudent financially , being deported can be likened to suicide. I bet their parents did what they did because they thought it was their best interest. I'm not trying to knock any country, there are pros and cons, don't care where you go. America has a lot of vices, for every one of your brothers killing for rituals in 9ja, theres a young man in missisipi that's killing people just because he's bored or would like to collect their panties in his treasure box down in his basement. For every Sars there are policemen killing unarmed black ppl. America is where it is because they have adopted a culture over years which most Nigerians are unwilling to do. Hospitals are powered by your money, from taxes to insurance to charity donations, walk into a hospital without insurance and beg doctor in the name of Allah and see the type of treatment you get. Forget to pay your electric bill for 3 days and walk into a freezer after they disconnect you light. There's no oga Nepa please wait till next week.
All we are saying is if you want what America has, work for it..it takes years, it's not a 10yr or even 20yr something. It takes decades of community cooperation to get any where. If you see how Americans protect their community you will understand. Litter their community and you will see how they will confront you. Play loud music and wait till the cops show up at your door. Your average nigerian as long as he has fan , he doesn't care if generator fumes or noise kills his neighbour, maybe you will get my point sha..maybe someday ..abi..

9jaDoc:


But u should not even be mentioning US and 9ja in the same breath. It gives the impression there is a comparison. Those people u read UNINTENTIONALLY shot by police, their families got millions. Google it. In 9ja the police will kill already arrested suspects in their cells and u will hardly hear about it. If they accidentally kill u it ends there. No compensation or anything.
In US you can save almost 100% of your income if u wish and still survive fine. 9jas don't have that choice. You can also spend 150% of your income and be in debt . It's up to you.

9jaDoc:


I posted it again. They must answer!

RedGold2017:
Yes..with the money they can go raise their dead relative and they can all enjoy the money together and live happily ever after..im sure that will solve all their worries in this world.

You no lie jare..you can save 100% of your income and lie that you have no income so you can collect benefits and live on freebies other ppl have worked for, cheat the system and you wonder why some americans loathe immigrants.

Pidgin2:


LordAdam16, Nigeriandondie aka Angelbeing, Alcatraz005, all other nay sayers come and be schooled