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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:02am On Dec 12, 2017
dubylhover:


honestly,there are parts of this I agree with..where he said on obviously you need quality in your squad,that's a major point I have always hammered on,despite our spendings,our players are still bang average its very obvious that city has a more balanced squad with better players...I saw one comment here that if it was pep managing Herrera Nd Mata,that they would b spraying passes anyhow,I just shook my head..d pogba that is spraying d passes anyhow and imposing himself as our most important player is he not playing under mourinho?? that's where quality comes into play,but I still maintain that no matter how good your tactics is,its only as effective as d players used in d system..

but lvg also has a point about mourinho being defensive which is also bad for a brand like united,but the thing I noticed about lvg nd mous tenure is that lvg used possession of d ball to camourflage d weakness of the team nd mou goes defensive when playing against fellow big teams..

the thing is that united must splash the money Nd spend it right..how can we get to the level of Madrid bayern when pogba is the only truly outfield world class player we have,other teams boast like 3 and above in their ranks..mourinho has to take a bunch of d fault for his tactics employed but we should also look deeper into our squad and ask are they really good enough?

It's true Bro, if pep was the manager, you'll be amazed at what folks like Mata and Martial can do. How do you expect them to succeed when wingers are being turned into wingbacks...Pogba's enjoying that freedom b'cos it's the role given to him, reason they say 'Matic was signed to FREE Pogba'.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 9:08am On Dec 12, 2017
codedguy1:


I Dont totally agree with your summation. LVG should shut up jor. wetin him dey yarn about playing attacking football. we were bored to death with his style play. Yes we have been spoilt with the SAF style but he also served us frustrating football.

Mourinho is an idiotic coward. His defensive tactics is what is making the player serve us shit. if we were playing attacking football I bet you we would have won most if not all the matches we drew or lost this season and probably be on the same points with city before our match. Then if city had won they would have been just 3points above us which will not be a bad thing.

I remember when we complained about Mourinhos defensive tactics and the excuse on this board was that we were just 2points off city and that we were 2nd on the log. we are still 2nd now but we all know what the diff is now.

The Lukaku we are berating for his useless link up play would have been forgiven if once in a while he messes up link up play but is busy scoring goals while in the box because we PLAY ATTACKING FOOTBALL, but because Mourinho thinks he can win a game by being defensive an attacker who is expected to be in the opposition box is busy defending and burdened with link up play here and there, something that is not exactly one of his strong attributes. That's why we are where we are today.

I bet you if you give these same players to an attack minded coach like poch or someone else you will be surprised what these players will do to opponents.

Yes the players have their faults but Mourinho is the biggest coward that ever liveth.

imagine fa, in OT the idiot is scared of attacking!

I get your point,once things go awry everybody needs a scapegoat,but honestly we tend to overestimate d quality of this out squad,I still maintain that Chelsea spurs and city have better players than us,that's just a simple fact..a monitor lizard cannot b a crocodile because you want it to...I mean common look at d players in our team na..

firstly it was micki that was blamed,now its mou and lukaku..its just tiring,I just hope we start buying the right players
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 9:11am On Dec 12, 2017
GloryIsaac:


It's true Bro, if pep was the manager, you'll be amazed at what folks like Mata and Martial can do. How do you expect them to succeed when wingers are being turned into wingbacks...Pogba's enjoying that freedom b'cos it's the role given to him, reason they say 'Matic was signed to FREE Pogba'.

I'm not talking about martial,d poster quoted Mata and Herrera..you now ask yourself when last Spain used those players...I have never ever rated Mata as highly as much peeps here..he takes too much time on d ball and does very unnecessary running..Herrera is just ok..nothing unique,but we need game changers in our squad....our players are not good enough apart from mous tactics..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:16am On Dec 12, 2017
dubylhover:


I'm not talking about martial,d poster quoted Mata and Herrera..you now ask yourself when last Spain used those players...I have never ever rated Mata as highly as much peeps here..he takes too much time on d ball and does very unnecessary running..Herrera is just ok..nothing unique,but we need game changers in our squad....our players are not good enough apart from mous tactics..

The squad isn't good enough though..but I doubt if Pep would lay off Mata.. Herrera, definitely.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:21am On Dec 12, 2017
dubylhover:


I get your point,once things go awry everybody needs a scapegoat,but honestly we tend to overestimate d quality of this out squad,I still maintain that Chelsea spurs and city have better players than us,that's just a simple fact..a monitor lizard cannot b a crocodile because you want it to...I mean common look at d players in our team na..

firstly it was micki that was blamed,now its mou and lukaku..its just tiring,I just hope we start buying the right players
How is Sane better than Rashford or Sterling better than Martial? De Bruyne and Pogba is very debatable. Is Walker really better than Val? Mkhi has every tendency to be the player Silva is. In an attacking set up with players pouring forward Mkhi has the ability to pick up his team mates run. Mata can do same, may not be as Silva but should do quite well. Fernadinho vs Matic am not convinced Fernad is better. Nope. Even Herrera should be able to play that spot well. At this rate of looking for the right players, we will spend over a billion and still not be satisfied.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 9:36am On Dec 12, 2017
dubylhover:


I get your point,once things go awry everybody needs a scapegoat,but honestly we tend to overestimate d quality of this out squad,I still maintain that Chelsea spurs and city have better players than us,that's just a simple fact..a monitor lizard cannot b a crocodile because you want it to...I mean common look at d players in our team na..

firstly it was micki that was blamed,now its mou and lukaku..its just tiring,I just hope we start buying the right players

Yes we might still need 1 or 2 players (Dybala, Griezman, or even Perisic) but I insist that these players are good enough for square up with this city team and challenge for the title with an attack minded coach and not this nonsense Mourinho is serving us. Its not a matter of scapegoat, Mourinho is the problem.

Is it not Lingard and even Fellaini that most of all agree is not a united player quality but have kinda been quite effective lately. Those are lizards that are behaving like crocs in their own way and we appreciate their efforts.

Do you know that if city had not scored we would not come out to attack and when the game ends in a scoreless draw Mourinho would have been happier than Pep, regardless of their 8points lead at the time.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 9:57am On Dec 12, 2017
GloryIsaac:


The squad isn't good enough though..but I doubt if Pep would lay off Mata.. Herrera, definitely.

true that
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 10:03am On Dec 12, 2017
codedguy1:


Yes we might still need 1 or 2 players (Dybala, Griezman, or even Perisic) but I insist that these players are good enough for square up with this city team and challenge for the title with an attack minded coach and not this nonsense Mourinho is serving us. Its not a matter of scapegoat, Mourinho is the problem.

Is it not Lingard and even Fellaini that most of all agree is not a united player quality but have kinda been quite effective lately. Those are lizards that are behaving like crocs in their own way and we appreciate their efforts.

Do you know that if city had not scored we would not come out to attack and when the game ends in a scoreless draw Mourinho would have been happier than Pep, regardless of their 8points lead at the time.

anyways the backlash that lvg faced is what mou now is facing..let's just watch and c
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 10:20am On Dec 12, 2017
The truth is that mourinho is a fraud, all of you that supported his signing should be ashamed, you all wanked to satisfaction when he came on, city were dealt with by a weaker united, Liverpool were thrashed but your mou can't beat these teams enjoy your L,s
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 10:28am On Dec 12, 2017
nyabinghi:
chameleons dissed mourinho and praised, now they will praise lukaku after dissing him
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 10:33am On Dec 12, 2017
nyabinghi:
hypocrite don show face, you accuse van gaal of being defensive yet you are getting wet over mourinho, how did he fare in the top games this season. Mourinho is a failure.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 10:35am On Dec 12, 2017
nyabinghi:
Hypocrisy on this thread, LVG won Fa cup(higher than Carling) they wanted him out, he beat Big teams well, Mou came spent 89 on one player, he struggled to beat teams, drew like okro, yet he is the next thing to bread and butter. Mourinho failed Man u clearly. What happens when he faces barceona,madrid,bayern,dortmund,psg na die be that.A coach that delights in parking the bus(catenaccio style).
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 10:41am On Dec 12, 2017
Nyabinghi is back.. grin grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 10:43am On Dec 12, 2017
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 10:48am On Dec 12, 2017
nyabinghi:
United not winning the league with their saviour mourinho will be calamitous. Such spendings and their "world best" gaffer, should win them the title with his mouth. Maybe they want him to spend 500 million more.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 10:51am On Dec 12, 2017
nyabinghi:
Mourinho must go, the mercenary and uncouth coach must go. 2 bans under 3 months. e go reach 12 before he comot.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:58am On Dec 12, 2017
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elnino4ladies: 11:05am On Dec 12, 2017
LMAO this thread sef
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kelvinze(m): 12:01pm On Dec 12, 2017
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 1:21pm On Dec 12, 2017
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 1:24pm On Dec 12, 2017
When did nyabinghi start selling makeup though?

I thought he was a lecturer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Hakeem66: 1:27pm On Dec 12, 2017
dubylhover:


I'm not talking about martial,d poster quoted Mata and Herrera..you now ask yourself when last Spain used those players...I have never ever rated Mata as highly as much peeps here..he takes too much time on d ball and does very unnecessary running..Herrera is just ok..nothing unique,but we need game changers in our squad....our players are not good enough apart from mous tactics..
Mourinho is a bad manager,see how he turned Herrera to a back and sideway passer with low confidence to pass forward. The best thing for the board to do now is to sack him in the summer and employ the right manager that knows United tradition.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 1:30pm On Dec 12, 2017
dubylhover:


honestly,there are parts of this I agree with..where he said on obviously you need quality in your squad,that's a major point I have always hammered on,despite our spendings,our players are still bang average its very obvious that city has a more balanced squad with better players...I saw one comment here that if it was pep managing Herrera Nd Mata,that they would b spraying passes anyhow,I just shook my head..d pogba that is spraying d passes anyhow and imposing himself as our most important player is he not playing under mourinho?? that's where quality comes into play,but I still maintain that no matter how good your tactics is,its only as effective as d players used in d system..

Delph Sterling, Stones were players ridiculed previously. Actually about 60% of people even forgot about Delph until like September this season

You cant say Delph was better than Fellaini, Herrera. Fernandinho Matic na the same thing, Pogba can do what KDB does if given the role and freedom,

Matial and Rashford are better than Sterling and Sane if played in the right system, Mata or Mikitaryan while not as intelligent as Silva, they can give 70% of his output in the right system.

You will give Pep a young team like Shaw, Martial Rashford Herrera, DDG. Now add a marquee signing like Pogba and 75M striker (Not named Lukaku), 40M defender like Lindelof or Bailly and everyone wont be hailing the type of football

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 1:32pm On Dec 12, 2017
dubylhover:


I'm not talking about martial,d poster quoted Mata and Herrera..you now ask yourself when last Spain used those players...I have never ever rated Mata as highly as much peeps here..he takes too much time on d ball and does very unnecessary running..Herrera is just ok..nothing unique,but we need game changers in our squad....our players are not good enough apart from mous tactics..

Spain isnt using him because he is not getting game at club level, Will you be shocked if Delph is called for ENgland for next world cup and Luke Shaw dropped?

Thats because one is getting gametime at the club and the other isnt
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kelvinze(m): 2:36pm On Dec 12, 2017
Our Loss to man city isn't Lukaku s fault entirely. Yes he played really bad and assisted d goals but its all Mourinho s fault. I watched d game and as soon as man city scored their first goal, there's this drastic change dah occurred immediately, everyone started playing all attack I can't remember d last time we attacked dah way against d top 6 and I was hoping for much more in d 2nd half buh its already too late as soon as man city scored d 2nd goal.
So my verdict is ....For us to return back to our glory days, we need a manager that knows the kinda players he wants and plays them with more freedom. Missing out on Pep is a mistake cos he's d one meant for us tbh(idc about other people view), we can still tryna bring in Ancelotti, Pochettino is not that bad , we just need a coach that knows when to attack and when to defend (just like SAF) not just someone to sets d team to defend all through d match and rely on luck as if we are an average team that fights for a point.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 3:32pm On Dec 12, 2017
Nihilist:
When did nyabinghi start selling makeup though?

I thought he was a lecturer.o
no be me dey sell am even e don tay wey e dey there
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 3:36pm On Dec 12, 2017
IFearGod:
Lol, is Morata a world class striker? No! bro, let's be factual they are at the same level. Forget about whichever clubs they belong, the truth is they are both average strikers with certain perceived individual 'quality'.
See Grammar shocked Do you even know what makes a striker world class?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elxandre(m): 3:42pm On Dec 12, 2017
You people should let us hear word about this pochettino joor.
grin

Where is he on the table sef? undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:43pm On Dec 12, 2017
BlueAngel444:
See Grammar shocked Do you even know what makes a striker world class?
So, are you saying Morata is world class? shocked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elxandre(m): 3:44pm On Dec 12, 2017
The true fans though.
That's how they told us that we don't need to beat the top six to win the EPL grin

We are still winning the league joor tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:48pm On Dec 12, 2017
Elxandre:
The true fans though.
That's how they told us that we don't need to beat the top six to win the EPL grin

We are still winning the league joor tongue

angry angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 3:48pm On Dec 12, 2017
patrickmuf:
Well, whilst you're right that Madrid have got the prerequisite experience, at the back, I don't see them coping with the threat posed by Neymar and Mbappe, midfield is even especially if Motta is fit, he makes them play so much better...
As for Chelsea, whilst you might want to argue in their favor you've got to remember that Dembele will be back come February and he'd be akin to a new signing, the thought of Messi against Alonso and Dembele against Zappacosta/Moses...
Madrid defense, Carvajal, Ramos Varane, Marcelo that coped against MSN, will what against who See the way your sounding certain as if you have watched the match already shocked.

So Bayern's back four is better than Madrid's undecided.

And that Dumbelle you mentioned will do what, let him play el classico first before any noise pls.

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