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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 5:43pm On Dec 19, 2017
tbaba1234:


The Anderlecht coach is ridiculous.. The man is the highest scorer in the league, highest scorer in your team and you leave him on the bench for your biggest game.

If he can't play as a striker, then play him in his best position.. Too much talk..

If not for Henry's goals, he'd have been sent out of the squad.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:53pm On Dec 19, 2017
Omo, think (or shall we say READ) before you talk/post. Go back and check my posts, I was probably the first person who stated clearly during this discussion that Mo Salah, Mane, and Auy are better players than VicMo.

But the point I was trying to make on my last post has nothing to do with Mane v VicMo or anything. I was just evaluating the EPL players of the season and my conclusion was, based on what I saw (and I watched more than 80% of all EPL matches last season, including 100% of all matches featuring the top teams), some of the players selected have no business making the team. And I listed names plus the names of the players who could've been selected instead.

Again, next time read before you respond because I don't like to repeat myself.


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Jarus:


Oga, more than 500 EPL players that did the voting know better than you. They knew Moses before considering Mane for EPL 11.

World coaches and captains that picked Mane among top 30 in the world knew Moses before choosing Mane.

But you sitting behind your TV thinks he did better than Mane.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 5:54pm On Dec 19, 2017
darkelf:


Well said bro.

It is even sadder that with the myriad of Nigerian players in Europe, the only person we are banking on is Vis Moses. Is he the only one earning salary?

A wing back for that matter. Where are the so-called attackers?

I once argued that our Stars may not just be doing well enough to catch their coaches attention but my argument was refuted on the grounds that the coaches have no plans for some of our players.

I can understand if some coaches are adamant and insist on certain players but in the case of nacho (a very talented player, and it pains me to write this), you can't just be going down like that and blame it on Claude or pep.

These coaches gave you opportunities; what did you do with them?

In the world of football, competition is stiff and even if you are given a cameo appearance, make maximum use of it because there are many players waiting for you to slip-up to take your position, even the coaches are under pressure to deliver and may not have patience with unproductive attackers. This is the plain truth.

Mangala was a burst before pep came and he has improved greatly, pep knows how to bring out the best from players. Why was Nacho's case different?

If we want to start celebrating our players, we need to start demanding more from them, CAF award or FIFA awards are no joke. I pray our players prove themselves as world beaters in Russia.

I heard recently that Rohr has visited some of the clubs where our players ply their trades to demand for more playing time for some of them. Nice one sir but that's the best he can do. It's left to them to demand for loan or permanent moves to get more playing time or else face the grim reality that they may not be in Russia. I trust Rohr

My 2 cents
this is such an unforgivably stupid question

What did he do with them? Were you asleep when Kelechi was scoring goals with cameos? Was your TV off when even pundits could not understand why Pep benched Nacho despite the fact that he performed when Jesus and Aguero were out?

And how many opportunities did Claude Puel give Kelechi that you are asking this mumu question?

Such an unforgivably useless question that reeks of ignorance. I am pissed off that you would even ask something so stupid just because you want to make some point.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:54pm On Dec 19, 2017
Jarus:


Lol. Only blind men will overlook Salah, Mane and aubameyang for Moses.

FIFA was not blind.
World coaches are not blind.
Over 500 EPL players cannot be blind.
Bundesliga analysts are not blind.
Italian journalists are not blind
Chelsea fans are not blind.
Liverpool fans are not blind.
CAF technical committee are not blind
BBC viewers are not blind

But you here want us to believe they are blind to rank Mane, Salah and aubameyang high.

Now we know who has African mentality.

Plain hard undeniable truth
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 5:54pm On Dec 19, 2017
tbaba1234:


Kante is a rarity.. Defensive minded players have to be ultra good to be noticed.
I think I kinda disagree here... Others just have to have performed below par for the season
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:55pm On Dec 19, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Everything u said just now is opinion based so who I'm I to take an action.
The Players Union, Journalists, national team captains/managers, CAF technical committee and millions of BBC listening public spoke thorough their votes.
It was never my opinion.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 5:55pm On Dec 19, 2017
Humility017:

the coach don't have sense...
only a senseless man will be accusing a loanee who have even contributed more to his team success than the team owned players.....
everytime the dude is singled out for criticism....nasty coach....

what's the boy offense that he can't call him privately to talk to.....rather than open his mouth in tin air...and speak trash.


He's just pained that Henry would be living him next summer.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:57pm On Dec 19, 2017
Listen, I don't care who voted for whom. I watched a vast majority of the games myself. And it would take a suspension of disbelief to convince me that Dele Alli was better than Kevin DeBruyne last season. No one can tell me that Gary Cahill was better than Virgil Van Djik last season.


O pari

goldfish80:

If you noticed, this was the PFA team of the season. The players themselves voted for their peers who stood out during the season.
It doesn't get more authentic than this.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 6:00pm On Dec 19, 2017
England to play Nigeria in Wembley friendly as part of their 2018 World Cup preparations



The Three Lions will play Nigeria in a World Cup warm-up game

Jack Pitt-Brooke @jackpittbrooke Tuesday 19 December 2017 16:23 GMT



England last played Nigeria at the 2002 World Cup, drawing 0-0 Getty

England have lined up a Wembley friendly against Nigeria as part of their World Cup preparations.

The Super Eagles will be one of two opponents for England, the other likely to be against Latin American opposition, before they depart for Russia.

The Football Association wanted England to face African opposition ahead of their World Cup opener against Tunisia in Volgograd on 18 June.

They considered facing Ghana or Senegal, who they could face in the last-16 depending on their standings in the groups. But England have chosen Nigeria, with the popular following the Nigerian national team thought to have been a factor behind the decision.

England will make the announcement official once their second June friendly has been confirmed.

After playing the two friendlies, Gareth Southgate and his squad will fly to Russia and to their training base in Repino, a town just north of St Petersburg, towards the Finnish border. Then they will head to Volgograd to face Tunisia, Nizhny Novgorod for Panama and Kaliningrad to play Belgium on 28 June.


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/england-vs-nigeria-wembley-friendly-2018-world-cup-a8118816.html

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 6:04pm On Dec 19, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Forget the genesis my question was about Suarez and Ronaldo.
As for Kane and Lukaku the season had not ended before the list came out unless u r saying that the almighty PFA are psychics that see in to the future.

The list came out with about 2 matches to go. lukaku and kane were still topping the chart.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:05pm On Dec 19, 2017
goldfish80:

The Players Union, Journalists, national team captains/managers, CAF technical committee and millions of BBC listening public spoke thorough their votes.
It was never my opinion.

That makes no sense out of all the people u named only the CAF technical committee has anything to do with there CAF shortlist.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 6:05pm On Dec 19, 2017
Gary Cahill was the weakest link in Chelsea defence line last season. He was so poor that people like me started questioning how he became Chelsea's captain. Is it because he plays for England? Well, your guess is as good as mine.

Dele Alli had a fantastic season but to compare him with Kevin DeBruyne is ridiculous.

Alexis Sanchez is a more complete footballer than Harry Kane. There's no contest.

I never made a case that Moses ought to be included in the list, simply because I knew that Kyle Walker was the best RB in EPL last season.


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Kog45:
My man that's the EPL team of the year list so no debate.

I can only make case for Aguero but not forgetting that Lukaku had a great season with average Everton.Last season was awesome for Dele Ali and better than DeBryune.Nobody would picked Alex Sanchez over Harry Kane.Cahil was all there doing it for Chelsea.

On Vic Moses he had a better player in that position in Kyle Walker who had a great season with Tottenham that made Pep to splash cash on him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:13pm On Dec 19, 2017
nelszx:
England to play Nigeria at Wembley Stadium as part of build up to their 2018 WC preparations.


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/england-vs-nigeria-wembley-friendly-2018-world-cup-a8118816.html
Komekn, come o

Na for Wembley the match dey, your dreams are about to come true grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 6:14pm On Dec 19, 2017
Jarus:


Doesn't stop the fact that Salah, Aubameyang and Mane did better than Moses even in 2016/2017.
I wholeheartedly disagree with you. I mean com'on dude, what are you guys even saying?
I read earlier someone saying it would have been injustice to African football if Moses got nominated in the top 3 or even win the best player award. I just laugh. Same thing you guys said years ago when Mikel was best positioned to win the award.

The way some og you castigate and letdown our players, your own countryman, is shorking. This is NOT sentiment, this is me purely being realistic here. I mean, many of you will even go the lenght to dig up facts and figures to back up your arguments on why outher people are better than your own. Yet, these people you are raising to the high heavens will NEVER let their own people down just to support a Nigeria, NEVER! It will never happen in the Northern part of Africa, in the Francophone countries or anywhere else in African. You need to spend time with these people to see how they despise us and constantly feel threaten by our exploits... Yet, they will never ever ever ever pick a Nigerian FIRST above their own,

Moses in all ramification deserve to be in the top 2 of the AFOTY Award, or even win it if Africa were to be sincere enough without being Bias. But no, because they now feel threatened by us, even a mediocre won the award ahead of a magical JayJay Okocha.

My point is simple: you guys should stop letting our players down all in the name of being sincere. This is not sincerity, it is bias, unpatriotic, and ignorance to assume that Caf got it right. If you are a student of International Affairs, especially in Africa, you will understand all my points here.

A player got converted to a new position, played it flawlessly, won the EPL title and did well with his national team and you're here telling me about goals and bla bla bla.

In case you don't know, Moses didn't win the BBC award partly because the English FA and their press, including the players haven't foegiven him for ditching them for Nigeria. This was why Liverpool almost frustrated his life because a certain Gerald didn't want him in the team.

We should learn to see beyond the ordinary and see things as they trully are. Moses deserve our support now and always!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 6:22pm On Dec 19, 2017
J
PurpleHouse:

I wholeheartedly disagree with you. I mean com'on dude, what are you guys even saying?
I read earlier someone saying it would have been injustice to African football if Moses got nominated in the top 3 or even win the best player award. I just laugh. Same thing you guys said years ago when Mikel was best positioned to win the award.

The way some og you castigate and letdown our players, your own countryman, is shorking. This is NOT sentiment, this is me purely being realistic here. I mean, many of you will even go the lenght to dig up facts and figures to back up your arguments on why outher people are better than your own. Yet, these people you are raising to the high heavens will NEVER let their own people down just to support a Nigeria, NEVER! It will never happen in the Northern part of Africa, in the Francophone countries or anywhere else in African. You need to spend time with these people to see how they despise us and constantly feel threaten by our exploits... Yet, they will never ever ever ever pick a Nigerian FIRST above their own,

Moses in all ramification deserve to be in the top 2 of the AFOTY Award, or even win it if Africa were to be sincere enough without being Bias. But no, because they now feel threatened by us, even a mediocre won the award ahead of a magical JayJay Okocha.

My point is simple: you guys should stop letting our players down all in the name of being sincere. This is not sincerity, it is bias, unpatriotic, and ignorance to assume that Caf got it right. If you are a student of International Affairs, especially in Africa, you will understand all my points here.

A player got converted to a new position, played it flawlessly, won the EPL title and did well with his national team and you're here telling me about goals and bla bla bla.

In case you don't know, Moses didn't win the BBC award partly because the English FA and their press, including the players haven't foegiven him for ditching them for Nigeria. This was why Liverpool almost frustrated his life because a certain Gerald didn't want him in the team.

We should learn to see beyond the ordinary and see things as they trully are. Moses deserve our support now and always!

I'm just being objective. you may not even be as passionate about Nigerian football/footballers as I am. If I had a vote, I might even vote for Moses out of Nigerian patriotism.

But sport analysis is different. Those 3 guys did better than Moses in the period under review. I will be making a fool of myself arguing what I don't believe.

All hard facts prove Moses don't deserve top 3.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 6:31pm On Dec 19, 2017
safarigirl:
this is such an unforgivably stupid question

What did he do with them? Were you asleep when Kelechi was scoring goals with cameos? Was your TV off when even pundits could not understand why Pep benched Nacho despite the fact that he performed when Jesus and Aguero were out?

And how many opportunities did Claude Puel give Kelechi that you are asking this mumu question?

Such an unforgivably useless question that reeks of ignorance. I am pissed off that you would even ask something so stupid just because you want to make some point.

I understand that you are passionate about your arguments but please let's strive to be civil when making our points.

When I quote people, I don't tell them what they said was/is stupid. Why? Because everyone is entitled to his/her opinion

So aunty, please no need for acerbic words.Thanks

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:48pm On Dec 19, 2017
darkelf:


I understand that you are passionate about your arguments but please let's strive to be civil when making our points.

When I quote people, I don't tell them what they said was/is stupid. Why? Because everyone is entitled to his/her opinion

So aunty, please no need for acerbic words.Thanks

when you quote people, you say what you want to say to them.

I'm not you. Thanks
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:51pm On Dec 19, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


That makes no sense out of all the people u named only the CAF technical committee has anything to do with there CAF shortlist.


The list I rolled out encapsulates all the cadre of bodies who voted the team of the season, BBC Africa player of the year and the APOTY.
It's a full doze.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:53pm On Dec 19, 2017
Icon79:
Listen, I don't care who voted for whom. I watched a vast majority of the games myself. And it would take a suspension of disbelief to convince me that Dele Alli was better than Kevin DeBruyne last season. No one can tell me that Gary Cahill was better than Virgil Van Djik last season.


O pari

Just like you speak for yourself, hundreds of premiership players spoke in one accord.
Minority will have their say, majority will have their way and all that....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:54pm On Dec 19, 2017
nelszx:
England to play Nigeria in Wembley friendly as part of their 2018 World Cup preparations



The Three Lions will play Nigeria in a World Cup warm-up game

Jack Pitt-Brooke @jackpittbrooke Tuesday 19 December 2017 16:23 GMT



England last played Nigeria at the 2002 World Cup, drawing 0-0 Getty

England have lined up a Wembley friendly against Nigeria as part of their World Cup preparations.

The Super Eagles will be one of two opponents for England, the other likely to be against Latin American opposition, before they depart for Russia.

The Football Association wanted England to face African opposition ahead of their World Cup opener against Tunisia in Volgograd on 18 June.

They considered facing Ghana or Senegal, who they could face in the last-16 depending on their standings in the groups. But England have chosen Nigeria, with the popular following the Nigerian national team thought to have been a factor behind the decision.

England will make the announcement official once their second June friendly has been confirmed.

After playing the two friendlies, Gareth Southgate and his squad will fly to Russia and to their training base in Repino, a town just north of St Petersburg, towards the Finnish border. Then they will head to Volgograd to face Tunisia, Nizhny Novgorod for Panama and Kaliningrad to play Belgium on 28 June.


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/england-vs-nigeria-wembley-friendly-2018-world-cup-a8118816.html
we 're privileged to have a very competitive and up and doing football federation. .

Kudos to pinnick led nff crew..I hope the relentless attitudes pays off

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 7:03pm On Dec 19, 2017
krattoss:
we 're privileged to have a very competitive and up and doing football federation. .

Kudos to pinnick led nff crew..I hope the relentless attitudes pays off

Yeah, so far, they have shown that they really mean business by organizing these friendlies. Hopefully, we can test some new legs for possible inclusion into the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:25pm On Dec 19, 2017
Nigeria under 15 beat Pepsi academy 3:0

Posting these pictures because in the next under 17, these boys ages would be doubted..



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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:28pm On Dec 19, 2017
Spoke in one accord, ke? Bruh, it was a popularity contest ... nothing more, nothing less. That's why we should stop putting too much stock in those individual awards in a team sports.

For instance, how many times did Kobe Bryant won the league MVP in the NBA? But every NBA fan can tell you that Kobe was the BEST player of his generation.


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goldfish80:

Just like you speak for yourself, hundreds of premiership players spoke in one accord.
Minority will have their say, majority will have their way and all that....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:37pm On Dec 19, 2017
Listen, your 2 cents is worth absolutely NOTHING! Nada!! Fadin!!! OK??!

Let me ask you a question. Were you born lame and cripple at the same time? So why not put on your soccer booths and head straight to Europe so you can play since the ones doing the job are not getting it done? Please enough of all these negative vibes!

And don't let me get angry because you won't like my reaction. This is a friendly warning!


O pari

darkelf:


Well said bro.

It is even sadder that with the myriad of Nigerian players in Europe, the only person we are banking on is Vis Moses. Is he the only one earning salary?

A wing back for that matter. Where are the so-called attackers
?


I once argued that our Stars may not just be doing well enough to catch their coaches attention but my argument was refuted on the grounds that the coaches have no plans for some of our players.

I can understand if some coaches are adamant and insist on certain players but in the case of nacho (a very talented player, and it pains me to write this), you can't just be going down like that and blame it on Claude or pep.

These coaches gave you opportunities; what did you do with them?

In the world of football, competition is stiff and even if you are given a cameo appearance, make maximum use of it because there are many players waiting for you to slip-up to take your position, even the coaches are under pressure to deliver and may not have patience with unproductive attackers. This is the plain truth.

Mangala was a burst before pep came and he has improved greatly, pep knows how to bring out the best from players. Why was Nacho's case different?

If we want to start celebrating our players, we need to start demanding more from them, CAF award or FIFA awards are no joke. I pray our players prove themselves as world beaters in Russia.

I heard recently that Rohr has visited some of the clubs where our players ply their trades to demand for more playing time for some of them. Nice one sir but that's the best he can do. It's left to them to demand for loan or permanent moves to get more playing time or else face the grim reality that they may not be in Russia. I trust Rohr

My 2 cents

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:41pm On Dec 19, 2017
Good job by the NFF. These chaps are the real deal.


O pari

tbaba1234:
Nigeria under 15 beat Pepsi academy 3:0

Posting these pictures because in the next under 17, these boys ages would be doubted..




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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:42pm On Dec 19, 2017
Icon79:
Spoke in one accord, ke? Bruh, it was a popularity contest ... nothing more, nothing less. That's why we should stop putting too much stock in those individual awards in a team sports.

For instance, how many times did Kobe Bryant won the league MVP in the NBA? But every NBA fan can tell you that Kobe was the BEST player of his generation.


O pari


The bitter truth is that Delle Ali had a phenomenonal season, even Real Madrid took notice. If I was in a position to choose, I would have awarded him the league Mvp last season. That's me being honest.
It would take a dishonest person to question his place in the Premiership 11,last season.

As for the black Mamba, he was the greatest. His record is pristine. We are talking about someone who had the record all star Mvp award. He was the real definition of a champ.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 7:58pm On Dec 19, 2017
Icon79:
Listen, your 2 cents is worth absolutely NOTHING! Nada!! Fadin!!! OK??!

Let me ask you a question. Were you born lame and cripple at the same time? So why not put on your soccer booths and head straight to Europe so you can play since the ones doing the job are not getting it done? Please enough of all these negative vibes!

And don't let me get angry because you won't like my reaction. This is a friendly warning!


O pari


Get you angry? That's really funny.

Because you don't agree with what I said.lol.

Funny you

FYI, I'm not a negative person. I can tell you for a fact that in the match against Argentina, I was probably the only person in my viewing centre that believed in the boys when we were 2 goals down and I said it out loud.

It's also funny that you said I should go play in Europe. Am I a footballer?

I know that our boys will be one of the fairy tale teams in Russia.

I only pointed an observation that Moses was a wing back and it'll be nice if one of our attackers could also vie for the award.

As you'll always say. O pari

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by denniece1(m): 8:00pm On Dec 19, 2017
Iheanacho starts for lcfc, adarabioyo starts for man city & a certain tomiwa guy on man city's bench.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:07pm On Dec 19, 2017
denniece1:
Iheanacho starts for lcfc, adarabioyo starts for man city & a certain tomiwa guy on man city's bench.

Good game to grab a goal..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:07pm On Dec 19, 2017
denniece1:
Iheanacho starts for lcfc, adarabioyo starts for man city & a certain tomiwa guy on man city's bench.

Kelechi starting is a wlcome development. Wish him all the very best

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:15pm On Dec 19, 2017
darkelf:


Kelechi starting is a wlcome development. Wish him all the very best
this might be his chance to prove doubters wrong against his former club...

I pray he grabs the chance or else......I rest my case..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 8:17pm On Dec 19, 2017
tbaba1234:


Good game to grab a goal..

Manchester City will not use their regular players so he should score. Ederson will not be starting today too

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