kennysville:



Lolzzzzz. Excellent analysis. Except that e get k-leg small

The problem I have with all of these is when the rules change, you wont be here to defend it and clearly show us what really happened. I never wanted to comment on this APOTY but i think I have had enough! Left to me, the award is a popularity contest. Its no longer about contributions to the world of football. Even your analysis says it all.

This is why when you watch talent shows, absurd people win in a ridiculous manner that befuddles the mind. And still we will have some weird way of explaining it away.

All the goals Okocha scored in the EPL nko? Werent they enough for him to be named APOTY? Ever since he left bolton wanderers, what has become of them? You wanna know? They wandered throungh lower tier leagues. At least he was named BBC African footballer twice. Where was all this recognition in Caf? So my friend, this analysis sweet as it sounds, is still a biased one.

If Caf wants to put things right, it shouldnt be about exploits in European leagues. The parameters need to be a lot more clearer and not on sentimental speculation of international rating. And certainly also not on goal scoring prowess. End of story!

Thanks but i will not accept that am being biased.

Nigerian players cannot set the standard or criteria on how CAF should does her things regard APOTY,they should try to measure up to the criteria and only way is to continue working hard to merit the award.

I remember of recent Mikel and Enyeama almost nick it so i don't see CAF being sentimental,this is a body that considered Ekong for the same award

Kog45:
Thanks for the accolades but i will not accept that am being biased.

Nigerian players cannot set the standard or criteria on how CAF should does her things regard APOTY,they should try to measure up to the criteria and only way is to continue working hard to merit the award.

I remember of recent Mikel and Enyeama almost nick it so i don't see CAF being sentimental,this is a body that considered Ekong for the same award

the problem with CAF is that they seem to change the rules every year against the Nigerian.

This year it ia club exploits, next year it's AFCON, before you know it, they will say it's based on sexual exploits.

But whatever criteria they use, the Nigerian must get the short end of the stick.

safarigirl:
the problem with CAF is that they seem to change the rules every year against the Nigerian.

This year it ia club exploits, next year it's AFCON, before you know it, they will say it's based on sexual exploits

But whatever criteria they use, the Nigerian must get the short end of the stick.

Bolded

Kog45:
Thanks but i will not accept that am being biased.

Nigerian players cannot set the standard or criteria on how CAF should does her things regard APOTY,they should try to measure up to the criteria and only way is to continue working hard to merit the award.

I remember of recent Mikel and Enyeama almost nick it so i don't see CAF being sentimental,this is a body that considered Ekong for the same award

l do not believe there's a bias towards Nigeria but that CAF is yet to set the criteria straight, it is more or less a popularity contest than anything else, just like l believe Adebayo shouldn't have won it in 2010 nor Toure in 2013.

Loogan:

You sha, you will bring every point in this world just to specially undermine Nigeria players.The only reason man city let him go was because iheanacho was the top goalscorer at the time for Nigeria in our qualifying series, it's only natural we clamor for game time for him, which apparently pep could see with his eyes that the boy deserved game time, so leave that "Found Wanting" tag you always push up, ur so comical with your comments sometimes I find it hard to believe your constantly in a football environment, just because of the bias you put in your comments. people in football should never be biased.
Oga if you are only has good as your last game guys like bony before he came back to form, loic remy, januzaj, depay at Man U, Luke Shaw, Danny ings, invanovic lastly Falcao at Man U and Chelsea would never get another chance at the top level again, but they will because they have history and experience, you can never ignore that!
Your arguments are so flawed, under Shakespeare gray was a regular coming in as a substitute, you are making it look like the guy was completely frozen out of the team.
Oga man city did not beg anyone to buy KC if anything they wanted to keep him and continue his development that's how Good he was. Now I'm sure you know liecester were not the only team in EUROPE after him, the only way they got him was coz they paid top cash and even agreed to a buy back clause an average liecester fan knows they are lucky to have a player of iheanachos quality, FACT! So when you talk about his price tag please give this guy some respect because he deserves it! has not spent up to 6 months and you want to crucify him. lots of teams have had worse deals, the Great English academy system that produces Andy carrol the almighty Liverpool flop, or you think Man U have got thier returns on the money spent on Shaw? If not for Pep, even the English were starting to accept sterling was one of those countless overhyped wingers, or has chambers done anything in his arsenal career? Were all of these guys not big money transfers? And they didn't hit the ground running with all fees surpassing 30mil pounds so save it.
See it simple just let us know you are a Nigerian that loves and support the British NT, it would help understand why you say the things you say. You say success is a waste pipe a player Marcos Silva rates highly but you want us to invite aneke, aluko, onyedinma who are in lower leagues to the SE are they not his mate? Have they not been in the English system all thier lives? So what's the excuse why are they overlooked by major epl clubs for a waste pipe Isaac success? Oga try and be more open minded.

Thanks bro! Now yall see why I said I wont engage him (Komekn). You have said it all.

safarigirl:
the problem with CAF is that they seem to change the rules every year against the Nigerian.

This year it ia club exploits, next year it's AFCON, before you know it, they will say it's based on sexual exploits.

But whatever criteria they use, the Nigerian must get the short end of the stick.

lmao

Icon79:
Good. I am glad you're an NBA fan. Now can you tell me why/how Kobe Bryant only won ONE solitary league MVP when players like Steve Nash (who played during his era) won two league MVPs. Does that make sense to you? What am I trying to say? It becomes a popularity contest anytime you ask for voting in a team sports. This doesn't just only happen in NBA either. It happens in all team sports. Like Gerard Pique said, "If Ballon d'Or is given to the best player in the world, Messi would've been winning it since 2009".


O pari

Granted, Kobe was the defining player of his generation. As a matter of fact, the number 8 in my handle is actually dedicated to him. I'm a huge fan like that.
However, judging by stats and numbers , Kobe had players who outperformed him. I mean, we have to appreciate there were some great players who were also in their prime when Kobe reigned.

Steve Nash you mentioned, was hands down the greatest passing PG the game have ever witnessed. His assist numbers were absolutely crazy. The NBA will never see such a point guard in next 100 years.

Finally, the Mvp is never about popularity. If it was, LeBron should have won 7 straight Mvp in the last 7 years. If it was popularity, Kobe would have won tonnes of Mvps. He was the most popular player in his time. As a matter of fact, his popularity earned him All star nominations when things began to go South for him.
Kobe was unfortunate to play for a poor lakers team. The lakers have been trash since Mr Phill Jackson left.

I treated all you said about Solanke within that parenthesis.

I got the humor though.

safarigirl:
Is it Tammy you are talking of or Solanke? Because nothing in my post says Tammy didn't earn his call-up

kennysville:



Lolzzzzz. Excellent analysis. Except that e get k-leg small

The problem I have with all of these is when the rules change, you wont be here to defend it and clearly show us what really happened. I never wanted to comment on this APOTY but i think I have had enough! Left to me, the award is a popularity contest. Its no longer about contributions to the world of football. Even your analysis says it all.

This is why when you watch talent shows, absurd people win in a ridiculous manner that befuddles the mind. And still we will have some weird way of explaining it away.

All the goals Okocha scored in the EPL nko? Werent they enough for him to be named APOTY? Ever since he left bolton wanderers, what has become of them? You wanna know? They wandered throungh lower tier leagues. At least he was named BBC African footballer twice. Where was all this recognition in Caf? So my friend, this analysis sweet as it sounds, is still a biased one.

If Caf wants to put things right, it shouldnt be about exploits in European leagues. The parameters need to be a lot more clearer and not on sentimental speculation of international rating. And certainly also not on goal scoring prowess. End of story!

@bolded, that has been my point

Watford: Marco Silva praises Isaac Success despite striker being linked with move away

Harry Gray

Isaac Success’ ability to adapt has impressed Marco Silva, despite the forward being linked with a move away from Watford.

The Nigeria international is, the Watford Observer understands, expected to leave Vicarage Road next month in search of regular football.

Success was reportedly arrested after allegedly being involved in an argument over money with prostitutes in October, understandably leading to questions about his off-field behaviour.

Silva, however, says he has been pleased with the way in which Success has adapted both in understanding his responsibilities and in changing his style of play.

“I didn’t have a big problem with him and for me it is not the problems in a direct relationship but everything that had happened around the player,” Silva said.

“He is different now and understands what I want, what our commitment as a team is and what we need to do as a club.

“It is our job to help him and I have seen good skills in him. It is important that he has the passion to wait for the right moment and he needs to work hard.”

Silva revealed Success, who has been out with a knee injury, is back in first team training and could be in contention to play within the next few weeks.

The Watford boss says the timing of the injury was not ideal as it ruled Success out at a time when he was beginning to impress.

“I think this season he has learned some new things. The injury came at his best moment in the season,” he said.

“It was a moment when he was showing his work every day. He was very, very good and was in a good moment.

“He had the injury which broke everything and now is the moment to work hard again.”

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/15709069.Silva__Success_working_hard_to_impress/

darkelf:


You're right bro

Just saw the name of one of the wonderkids you mentioned; Lukas Nmecha. Born to a Nigerian Father and a German Mother

He played yesterday.

you mean every year a Nigerian was in contention?
Well, let's just say they seem to change the criteria every year.
They need to come clear as to what criteria should have more weight.
So that will have a standard that will guide the conscience of the voters.

safarigirl:
the problem with CAF is that they seem to change the rules every year against the Nigerian.

This year it ia club exploits, next year it's AFCON, before you know it, they will say it's based on sexual exploits.

But whatever criteria they use, the Nigerian must get the short end of the stick.

What's the criteria?

Kog45:
Thanks but i will not accept that am being biased.

Nigerian players cannot set the standard or criteria on how CAF should does her things regard APOTY,they should try to measure up to the criteria and only way is to continue working hard to merit the award.

I remember of recent Mikel and Enyeama almost nick it so i don't see CAF being sentimental,this is a body that considered Ekong for the same award

Joebie:
At age 25 Mohammed Salah's stats is SICK -- especially international stats.

Sick as in?

Joebie:
you mean every year a Nigerian was in contention?
Well, let's just say they seem to change the criteria every year.
They need to come clear as to what criteria should have more weight.
So that will have a standard that will guide the conscience of the voters.

You know what I feel? I feel after those parameters must have been spelt out, let computers do the actual voting. Human beings will always be human beings with their absurd preferences and clouded judgements. That way, you have fairness.

safarigirl:
Kelechi's International Stats will probably look like that after 56 Caps.

19 games for Chelsea and 2 goals.... He must have been exceptionally useless for them back then.....makes you wonder what some of the Kelechi detractors must have said of him back then....the same ones praising him today must have laughed at him then and said how much of a waste of money he is. Papers would have called him a flop and Chelsea fans on Twitter must have called for his head


But Time changes all things, just like time changed the downward spiral of Moses' career and elevated Salah back to that Premier league he must have had nightmares of from his last experience

I wonder how many Egyptians tossed him aside back then.....

Goes to show, pesin wey good good, they may have hindrances and may not always show their class because of some circumstances, but doesn't mean they are gone forever.

I, for one, am not tossing Moses. He is Nigeria's best player at the moment. His ball sense and understanding of football is very rare.

I just don't think he did better than the 3 guys in the year under review.

I wont compromise that conviction for patriotism.

Jarus:


I, for one, am not tossing Moses. He is Nigeria's best player at the moment. His ball sense and understanding of football is very rare.

I just don't think he did better than the 3 guys in the year under review.

I wont compromise that conviction for patriotism.

I wasn't referring to Moses with that foam

Jarus:


Sick as in?

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goldfish80:


Granted, Kobe was the defining player of his generation. As a matter of fact, the number 8 in my handle is actually dedicated to him. I'm a huge fan like that.
However, judging by stats and numbers , Kobe had players who outperformed him. I mean, we have to appreciate there were some great players who were also in their prime when Kobe reigned.

Steve Nash you mentioned, was hands down the greatest passing PG the game have ever witnessed. His assist numbers were absolutely crazy. The NBA will never see such a point guard in next 100 years.

Finally, the Mvp is never about popularity. If it was, LeBron should have won 7 straight Mvp in the last 7 years. If it was popularity, Kobe would have won tonnes of Mvps. He was the most popular player in his time. As a matter of fact, his popularity earned him All star nominations when things began to go South for him.
Kobe was unfortunate to play for a poor lakers team. The lakers have been trash since Mr Phill Jackson left.

Nash was a beast but he wasn't even better than Jason Kidd not to talk about Stockton, Magic and Isiah.

Formal arsenal player Tomas Rosisky retired from football...

All the best legend!!!

Everton Loanee Henry Onyekuru Named Nigeria's Best U20 Player
allnigeriasoccer.com Dec 20, 2017 11:48 AM
Everton Loanee Henry Onyekuru Named Nigeria's Best U20 Player

Outside Of The Boot has unveiled its 100 Best Young Players to Watch in 2018, with Everton loanee Henry Onyekuru the only Nigerian young star listed by the scouting website.
All players born on or after January 1st 1997 are eligible for the feature; 5 goalkeepers, 30 defenders, 35 midfielders, 30 forwards made the list.

Fifty two different nationalities were represented on the list, and the likes of Victor Osimhen (Wolfsburg), Kelechi Nwakali (Arsenal) and Orji Okonkwo (Bologna) were omitted.

Marcus Rashford, Kylian Mbappe, Ousmane Dembele, Gianluigi Donnarumma, Joe Gomez, Gabriel Jesus and Justin Kluivert all featured on the list.

''Incredibly fleet of foot, a good technician, and an instinctual finisher, Onyekuru is a prime example of a modern wide player,'' Andrew Thompson analyzed on the Super Eagles striker.

''Able to either burst past you, or tuck in and beat you in tight situations, the versatility in his personal game suits the fact that he’s tactically versatile as well.''

The 20-year-old Onyekuru has bagged a combined ten goals from 27 appearances in all competitions for RSC Anderlecht so far this season.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

goldfish80:


Granted, Kobe was the defining player of his generation. As a matter of fact, the number 8 in my handle is actually dedicated to him. I'm a huge fan like that.
However, judging by stats and numbers , Kobe had players who outperformed him. I mean, we have to appreciate there were some great players who were also in their prime when Kobe reigned.

Steve Nash you mentioned, was hands down the greatest passing PG the game have ever witnessed. His assist numbers were absolutely crazy. The NBA will never see such a point guard in next 100 years.

Finally, the Mvp is never about popularity. If it was, LeBron should have won 7 straight Mvp in the last 7 years. If it was popularity, Kobe would have won tonnes of Mvps. He was the most popular player in his time. As a matter of fact, his popularity earned him All star nominations when things began to go South for him.
Kobe was unfortunate to play for a poor lakers team. The lakers have been trash since Mr Phill Jackson left.

I don't mean to derail ooo. Steve Nash ws an excellent passer but he wasn't the best. You left out magic Johnson and Johnson stockton

BascoVanVeli:


Nash was a beast but he wasn't even better than Jason Kidd not to talk about Stockton, Magic and Isiah.

Yeah, isaiah Thomas of the bad boy pistons era. Stockton was so good that Gary Payton (a former defensive player of the year on the NBA nicknamed "the glove" remarked that he was more difficult to guard than the goat himself Michael Jordan

I don derail derail too much ooo. Abeg, make una forgive me .

BascoVanVeli:


Nash was a beast but he wasn't even better than Jason Kidd not to talk about Stockton, Magic and Isiah.

Nash was a different beast to Jason Kidd, Isiah and Stockton. His numbers are pretty much identical to Magic Johnson's.
Nash is a history maker. We are talking about the highest free throw percentage in NBA history. A historic member of the 50-40-90 club. Only 2 players managed to achieve this shooting record, Larry Bird being the the other player.
It is worth mentioning Nash hit this record 4 times while Larry Bird managed to get those numbers twice. With Nash in your team, it's a given at least 7 players will hit double figures. The Sun were rampaging in attack like that even with Amare Stoudemire out injured in 06.
Nash was simply something out of the ordinary.

darkelf:


I don't mean to derail ooo. Steve Nash ws an excellent passer but he wasn't the best. You left out magic Johnson and Johnson stockton

Statistically, he was a better passer than Magic. Magic however edges him on the rebound which is understandable because Nash operated more on the outside.

In 2010/2011 season, Odenwingie scored 15 goals with 9 assists and won EPL player of month two times, i say two times but he was not even considered for CAF award. Why? if it is not all about winning trophies but individual performance.


That same season Yaya Toure scored only 10 goals with just 7 assists yet he was crowned the best player in Africa, why?

To add salt to injury,the runner up Seydou Keita scored only 6 goals with 4 assists. what is the criteria used?

Adrew Ayew came 3rd and he managed to score 13 goals with 6 assists. Why was he nominated but Peter Odenwingie ignored?

I need cogent and precise explanation. Thanks

Another Blow: No Nigerian On The CAF Player Of The Year List


nametalkam at 05:36 PM, 9 Nov 11 (6 years ago)
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Nigerian football once again got overlooked when Caf announced the list of players that will contest for the African footballer of the year awards in December.

Ten players were placed in the long list that includes Ivorians Didi-er Drogba, Yaya Toure and Gervinho; Ghanaians Asamoah Gyan, Kevin Prince-Boateng and Andre Ayew; Cameroonian Samuel Eto’o, Senegalese Moussa Sow, Malian Seydou Keita and Moroccan Adel Taarabt.



Peter Odemwingie didn't make the list despite scoring 15 league goals at West Brom and win two Premier League player of the month awards.

However, Uche Kalu of Enyimba was listed in the section for players based on the continent. The 25 year-old has never been invited to the senior national team.

The last time a Nigerian won the Caf player of the year award was 1999 when Nwankwo Kanu took his second title. The Super Eagles’ poor international performances have likely affected the standing of Nigerians in individual awards as well.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiYhKC4uJjYAhVB6KQKHS-sDRwQFghFMAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww..com%2Ftalk%2Ftopic%2C84306.0.html&usg=AOvVaw0wNP0bu7MQEhvNKklgipK5

forgiveness:


In 2010/2011 season, Odenwingie scored 15 goals with 9 assists and won EPL player of month two times, i say two times but he was not even considered for CAF award. Why? if it is not all about winning trophies but individual performance.


That same season Yaya Toure scored only 10 goals with just 7 assists yet he was crowned the best player in Africa, why?

To add salt to injury,the runner up Seydou Keita scored only 6 goals with 4 assists. what is the criteria used?

Adrew Ayew came 3rd and he managed to score 13 goals with 6 assists. Why was he nominated but Peter Odenwingie ignored?

I need cogent and precise explanation. Thanks

You raised a valid point Bros. Looking at all you said, one wonders why?

Was it a beef toward Nigerian players or was a francophone cabal ruling at CAF?

I may be wrong though. Anybody care to chip in a thing or two

darkelf:


You raised a valid point Bros. Looking at all you said, one wonders why?

Was it a beef toward Nigerian players or was a francophone cabal ruling at CAF?

I may be wrong though. Anybody care to chip in a thing or two

@bolded is the bias determinate factor used i guess.

forgiveness:


In 2010/2011 season, Odenwingie scored 15 goals with 9 assists and won EPL player of month two times, i say two times but he was not even considered for CAF award. Why? if it is not all about winning trophies but individual performance.


That same season Yaya Toure scored only 10 goals with just 7 assists yet he was crowned the best player in Africa, why?

To add salt to injury,the runner up Seydou Keita scored only 6 goals with 4 assists. what is the criteria used?

Adrew Ayew came 3rd and he managed to score 13 goals with 6 assists. Why was he nominated but Peter Odenwingie ignored?

I need cogent and precise explanation. Thanks

.

This justifies the point someone here made saying that the criteria changes when a Nigerian is involved

forgiveness:


In 2010/2011 season, Odenwingie scored 15 goals with 9 assists and won EPL player of month two times, i say two times but he was not even considered for CAF award. Why? if it is not all about winning trophies but individual performance.


That same season Yaya Toure scored only 10 goals with just 7 assists yet he was crowned the best player in Africa, why?

To add salt to injury,the runner up Seydou Keita scored only 6 goals with 4 assists. what is the criteria used?

Adrew Ayew came 3rd and he managed to score 13 goals with 6 assists. Why was he nominated but Peter Odenwingie ignored?

I need cogent and precise explanation. Thanks

U need cogent and precise explanation?




I thinK AHMAD AHMAD is in d best position to answer ur question