Bollinger:


If i were a fraudster, yes. Good thing I'm not. I should have been a pastor. To many mentally challenge people in nigeria to take advantage of .

it's never too late to become one.....

at the end of the day, God will still differentiate original from fake through their works and deeds......

#ilovetobebrainwashed

analize701:

Wouldn't you wish your Dad could use people's head for this long to get you and your siblings a place like this?

My Tithe is working.

*Proudly Sheeple**

IamaNigerianGuy:


That is a Strawman argument. I never said so.

If you know your Bible, you will realize that the whole point of Christianity is to abandon the world for a reward in heaven. A pastor who has a jet, a dozen cars, fine houses, nearly unlimited funds , political and social influence does not need and cannot lead you to Jesus. Jesus came to lead you away from those sort of people

My friend, nobody who has five private jets can claim to be a follower of Christ. If you think so, you need a road-to-damascus revelation.

My brother, part of the reason Jesus came for us is so that we will be rich and wealthy. Jesus while on earth was extremely rich, he had a Treasurer. His cloth was so expensive, soldiers had to gamble on who to take the club home.

And the Bible does not teach to abandon this world and go for a reward in heaven. in fact, Jesus said Go ye into the world and preach the life of God. As Christians we are not aiming for heaven, we are in heaven already. The eternal life is now. As He is in heaven, so are we on earth.

oluFELAxy:


My brother, part of the reason Jesus came for us is so that we will be rich and wealthy. Jesus while on earth was extremely rich, he had a Treasurer. His cloth was so expensive, soldiers had to gamble on who to take the club home.

And the Bible does not teach to abandon this world and go for a reward in heaven. in fact, Jesus said Go ye into the world and preach the life of God. As Christians we are not aiming for heaven, we are in heaven already. The eternal life is now. As He is in heaven, so are we on earth.

You will do well in politics. You have a gift for turning black to white

AndrewFarms:


my brother.......

"only a fool doubt proofs"

leave the fool alone to be calculating the wealth of the Bishop while the Bishop's congregation begin to fly high in the sky.

Just as that fool doubted when prophet prophesied that food would the surplus within the next 24hrs, that fool in the Bible died before receiving or getting to eat his own food.

Bishop Oyedepo says and I quote "A time is coming when the winners family will begin to fly in the sky" that is, we are moving from the level of vehicles to the level of jets and plane as a congregation.....

my prayer is that Okoyeeboz doesn't end up like that fool in the Bible......

Is that all? Oyedepo says this, Papa says that.

Deluded mediocre quoting a man instead of the Bible. I don't blame most of you, you're biblical blockheads who stand for nothing but fall for anything.

Oyedepo has positioned his son as head of his church business in the UK, his wife deputises for him here, his son in law is his PA. Don't go and plan your life, keep waiting for surplus food.

Hungry hypocrites everywhere.

AndrewFarms:


it's never too late to become one.....

at the end of the day, God will still differentiate original from fake through their works and deeds......

You assume I believe in any rubbish god. My god is math, science, logic, probability and common sense. Unlike you, I expect bad things to happen. It's normal. I don't blame the devil. I buy insurance to minimize the impact of whatever bad thing happened. You people will not go for medical check ups but when you drop dead your family will blame the devil . Is that not insane? You will not have insurance but when you get in an accident you will say god will provide. Is that not madness? Guy, you better wake and understand how life really works.

oluFELAxy:


Let me quickly explain the concept of tithing to you and what churches preach.

1. Tithe didn't come with the law. Abraham Was The first tither in scriptures.
2. He was already blessed before he gave tithes and he had access to more blessings after tithe.
3. Abraham gave 10% knowing fully well that the remaining 90% belongs to God, why he was able to sacrifice Isaac.
4. Tithe became a law to the Israelites to give 10% of their proceeds to the Levi (who were the priests) cos the levites were not to work. So the Tithe was their wage.
5. If you didn't pay the tithe as an Israelite, God was angry with you and punished you.
6. The new covenant came, Grace took over law. So the tithing concept under the law is gone.
7. The tithing idea of Abraham is what is being encourages by our pastors today.
8. Abraham was not forced to pay tithe, tithe payment is not by force.
9. Abraham was blesses before he laid tithe, we are blessed with all spiritual blessings already (even of we don't pay tithe).
10. Nobody told Abraham to pay 10%, so he could have paid 20%. Pastors today think it is reasonable to give 10% to God (Apostle Suleman already increased his to 30%)
11. Under the new covenant, our given is based on our love for God and our understanding of giving. You can decide to give God your whole salary for a year.
12. Our pastor says just like Abraham paid 10%, it is reasonable for us to have a 10% set aside from our income to give to God.
13. When you tithe, there are blessings attached. If you don't tithe, you are not cursed.
14. In all, God owns all your 100%.

I will disagree based on he scriptures clearly describing a nontither as cursed.

Malachi 3:7-10
7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it


If you like argue with the bible and justify yourself and deceive yourself that tithing is not important. If you like claim its pastors idea, we clearly see it..saith the Lord of host.. Its your choice to tithe or not but the truth is constant come rain or sunshine.So dont confuse anybody.

Statsocial:

Though he doesn't take profits but the proceeds of his books alone would buy your entire ancestral community. The tapes he has sold may buy your entire local govt

Disclaimer: I titled this ''oyedepo's house'' not mansion. This is certainly not a Mansion o unless you haven't seen what a mansion looks like.

Off course na,God's business is the best business anyone can do. I love it

Pprovost:
Nothing pays like church business.....

Not even politics

Statsocial:

Though he doesn't take profits but the proceeds of his books alone would buy your entire ancestral community. The tapes he has sold may buy your entire local govt

Disclaimer: I titled this ''oyedepo's house'' not mansion. This is certainly not a Mansion o unless you haven't seen what a mansion looks like.

keep quite none of his book is worth reading, you think writing a good Christian book is all about slapping a witch?

bezimo:



I will disagree based on he scriptures clearly describing a nontither as cursed.

Malachi 3:7-10
7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it


If you like argue with the bible and justify yourself and deceive yourself that tithing is not important. If you like claim its pastors idea, we clearly see it..saith the Lord of host.. Its your choice to tithe or not but the truth is constant come rain or sunshine.So dont confuse anybody.

If you read what I have put up, you will discover how much I agree with the tithing idea.

And then the Malachi 3:7-10, are things from under the law. We are not of the law anymore. We are free from the curses of the law. We are new creation beings. Glory!

U see u see..
I said mamemimuanbabahaha

oluFELAxy:


If you read what I have put up, you will discover how much I agree with the tithing idea.

And then the Malachi 3:7-10, are things from under the law. We are not of the law anymore. We are free from the curses of the law. We are new creation beings. Glory!

You are confused..Tithing is not under the law it was in existence before the law.. So your analogy is false

bezimo:


You are confused..Tithing is not under the law it was in existence before the law.. So your analogy is false

Try and understand: Tithing was initially not understand the law. It was in existence before the law, but it became law.

Okoyeeboz:


Oga, shut up your mouth. The fact that you are a descendant of paupers doesn't mean others share your unfortunate history.

Oxford University Press and Harper Collins are some of the largest publishers in the world and they don't have a single jet. How many books has he sold and how many tapes has he sold that he can afford to buy 5 jets? Does Oyedepo sell more than Sony Music? How many jets does Sony Music have?

Since he's made so much personal money from selling books and tapes, can he provide us with his tax returns? If he didn't declare those in his tax documents, are you aware he is a criminal?

I don't have a problem with your paying tithes to whoever or defending Mr Oyedepo but don't insult our sensibilities and tell unintelligent lies like an epileptic drunkard just waking up from sleep.

fatality

oluFELAxy:


Try and understand: Tithing was initially not understand the law. It was in existence before the law, but it became law.

Tithing existed before the law As Abraham tithed, Jacob tithed.. it was practiced during the time of the law as commanded by God.. so dont confuse anybody.
Jesus didnt come to abolish the law like he stated but to fulfill the law and after the law in Heb 7:8 it stated clearly that And here men(God ordained servants of God) that die receive tithes; but there he( the resurrected Jesus Christ) receiveth them(your tithe you pay in church), of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.

Jesus Speaking in Matt 23:23(NLT)
What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law--justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things

So tithing is still recognised by heaven even after the law no nonsense daddy freeze or the online naysayer can confuse the truth.

Statsocial:


lol i dont even give the freeze and his minions much attention.

It is always easier to know when the devil is campaigning. Once i saw Atheists, Muslims and some Judases in the Church agreeing with Freeze i knew it could never be to the benefit of Christ or His Church. Am i supposed to be so naive to believe Atheist and Muslims are trying to sanitize the church of God.

As i would always say the debate between the Serpent And Eve accurately describes what is happening to the church today. They are talking as if they have us at heart or are in love with us so much that they don't want us cheated but their will is that our churches must crumble-what better way for it to crumble than for it to be defunded. but just like Eve many are carried away without really knowing the motivation behind those who are arguing against the church. If Eve was aware of the Devil's will for her offsprings and humanity she would have run without her legs touching the ground but unfortunately she debated and ended up trading the lives of billions of her offsprings that would walk the earth. She thought she was only being ENLIGHTENED.

As i have said i would rather run the risk of being defrauded than my church crumbling. The TREASURE of a MAN lies where his HEART his-Jesus Christ.

Thank you for this my brother. Government does not fund the church and so without tithes how do we further spread evangelism and grow the church.That daddy freeze has cursed himself in this world and i won't be surprised if he runs mad before he dies

Shoud the Church Teach Tithing? debate



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw70Ron6CQ

Statsocial:

Though he doesn't take profits but the proceeds of his books alone would buy your entire ancestral community. The tapes he has sold may buy your entire local govt

Disclaimer: I titled this ''oyedepo's house'' not mansion. This is certainly not a Mansion o unless you haven't seen what a mansion looks like.

Takes tithes and offerings and still sell them sheeples books...lol

How cool.

Nice business.

IamaNigerianGuy:


Proudly stupi.d you mean. How much tithe did Jesus collect ? How many houses did he own ?

Since Jesus died at 33 why don't you hurry off and go and die
Since Jesus didn't marry i hope you aren't planning to marry
Since Jesus ddn't have Children i hope you are not planning to have kids. MUMU

Billyonaire:


Takes tithes and offerings and still sell them sheeples books...lol

How cool.

Nice business.

lol you better buy the sheeples books so it can liberate you of your demons

stevio:
#ilovetobebrainwashed

Wow, you are a genius.
You are totally correct, i love to be brainwashed.
shey na my brain? good. make dem wash am with hypo.

Bollinger:


If i were a fraudster, yes. Good thing I'm not. I should have been a pastor. To many mentally challenge people in nigeria to take advantage of .

If you think it's easy using the mentally challenged for 36 years and counting to buy a jet and maintain it is easy, pls try

analize701:

If you think it's easy using the mentally challenged for 36 years and counting to buy a jet and maintain it is easy, pls try

Why would I try to be a fraudster? I am not built like that.

Statsocial:


lol i dont even give the freeze and his minions much attention.

It is always easier to know when the devil is campaigning. Once i saw Atheists, Muslims and some Judases in the Church agreeing with Freeze i knew it could never be to the benefit of Christ or His Church. Am i supposed to be so naive to believe Atheist and Muslims are trying to sanitize the church of God.

As i would always say the debate between the Serpent And Eve accurately describes what is happening to the church today. They are talking as if they have us at heart or are in love with us so much that they don't want us cheated but their will is that our churches must crumble-what better way for it to crumble than for it to be defunded. but just like Eve many are carried away without really knowing the motivation behind those who are arguing against the church. If Eve was aware of the Devil's will for her offsprings and humanity she would have run without her legs touching the ground but unfortunately she debated and ended up trading the lives of billions of her offsprings that would walk the earth. She thought she was only being ENLIGHTENED.

As i have said i would rather run the risk of being defrauded than my church crumbling. The TREASURE of a MAN lies where his HEART his-Jesus Christ.

Well done friend!!

Your submission will anger the devil.
You actually fired the real antagonist.
Well thought out.

I guess a lot of people will prefer he lived in a hut. Shame to the devil and all his agents. Love u papa Oyedepo, you such an inspiration.

jaxxy:


Welldone mr sheep! Now to the important question. Have u ever read ur bible for urself and seeked understanding or its just wat ur pastor tells u dat u follow hook line and sinker. Many of the people attacking freeze ive come to realize hv almost never opened their bibles by themselves talkless of know wat is written in it. They attack freeze like thugs and profane language.
Is that what their bible teaches? Almost like blind followers

Do you want to know i read my Bible? Open a thread and bring up any topic of your choice, let's trash it, then we'll know who follows hook line and sinker.

Na your moeny i use pay tithe?

How many of my bills have you picked before, why is your bothered?

Poverty and wickedness has so transformed our mindset that nothing is seeing as everything before our very eyes.
What is extra ordinary about this normal house?.

emusmithy:


I love your comment.

The world is a wicked place.

Be proud of whom you represent.

#proudsheep

Satanic strategy is to make the sheep hate being sheep.

If i no be sheep, na goat i go become?

THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD. If the Lord is my shepherd, what does that make me? A sheep.

Proudsheep.

Bollinger:


Why would I try to be a fraudster? I am not built like that.

You should then leave us alone to be defrauded.

If you lived in the days of Jesus, you have called him a fraudster for collecting the very last a poor Widow gave as an offering. You'd carried out for Jesus to be stoned. Why won't he give to that woman instead accepting what she gave?

If you lived in the days of Prophet Elijah, you'd have called him unprintable names for even considered asking a poor widow to bring to him the last food she and her son had to eat and then wait for death. as a result of the famine. Where is the humanity? Why not have a heart and care for a widow?

A man of God who shd give to the poor, taking from the poor? Elijah would ve been called a thief by your kind.

Carry yourself waka commot for weytin you no sabi.

***Proudlysheeple***

oluFELAxy:


Let me quickly explain the concept of tithing to you and what churches preach.

1. Tithe didn't come with the law. Abraham Was The first tither in scriptures.
2. He was already blessed before he gave tithes and he had access to more blessings after tithe.
3. Abraham gave 10% knowing fully well that the remaining 90% belongs to God, why he was able to sacrifice Isaac.
4. Tithe became a law to the Israelites to give 10% of their proceeds to the Levi (who were the priests) cos the levites were not to work. So the Tithe was their wage.
5. If you didn't pay the tithe as an Israelite, God was angry with you and punished you.
6. The new covenant came, Grace took over law. So the tithing concept under the law is gone.
7. The tithing idea of Abraham is what is being encourages by our pastors today.
8. Abraham was not forced to pay tithe, tithe payment is not by force.
9. Abraham was blesses before he laid tithe, we are blessed with all spiritual blessings already (even of we don't pay tithe).
10. Nobody told Abraham to pay 10%, so he could have paid 20%. Pastors today think it is reasonable to give 10% to God (Apostle Suleman already increased his to 30%)
11. Under the new covenant, our given is based on our love for God and our understanding of giving. You can decide to give God your whole salary for a year.
12. Our pastor says just like Abraham paid 10%, it is reasonable for us to have a 10% set aside from our income to give to God.
13. When you tithe, there are blessings attached. If you don't tithe, you are not cursed.
14. In all, God owns all your 100%.

u tried in ur analysis but truth is Abram didn't give because he had the intention to multiply it or was afraid of any curse. He gave 10% of what wasn't his and the remaining 90% to the king of Sodom. When Abram gage tithe there was no law guiding Israel on ttthing. Ur pastors of these days want u to pay tithe quoting Malachi with plenty threats and because freeze has burst their scam they now say we should pay it the way Abram did. Did anyone preach to Abram to give tithe? They (pastors) should also allow the people give freewill offering in whateva % they feel as long as it's from the heart. Most Pastors of these days are thieves. That's y the "uncalled" ones use charms and satanic powers to bewitch their followers. Abeg I understand ur concept of the whole stuff and u r mostly correct until I said pastors want us to pay the way Abram paid. That is my only objection. Abram paid the way Jesus would have paid "that's if He ever paid". Willingly. Any payment done outside willingness is fraud. Simple.

Bollinger:


You assume I believe in any rubbish god. My god is math, science, logic, probability and common sense. Unlike you, I expect bad things to happen. It's normal. I don't blame the devil. I buy insurance to minimize the impact of whatever bad thing happened. You people will not go for medical check ups but when you drop dead your family will blame the devil . Is that not insane? You will not have insurance but when you get in an accident you will say god will provide. Is that not madness? Guy, you better wake and understand how life really works.

lol when you land inside hell fire then you would understand that you didn't seek THE insurance.