asuustrike2009:

1 cor 2:10 is the summary of the whole brouhaha. He reveal the word of God more to man like never before ( John 14:26). He is the best teacher. There are things mortal man can't comprehend because they study the Bible life literature. Even if 40 scriptures on tithing are given to them, many had made up their minds not to listen. Have a blissful Sunday

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I am not surprised.

Clearly fleeing from clear bible fact wen it appears before u and confuses u. Nice day.

asuustrike2009:

It is not threat but it the reality. There is no need sugar coating it

You are daft and stupid! I expected that you will take your time to read okcornel write up on tithe, but no, you tried to use sentiments to play to the gallery. Have you even read Deuteronomy 14 22 to 29? Who do you think that Mal 3: 10 was referring to? Are you a descendant of the tribe of Levi! Where did the bible record that Jesus or his disciples collected tithe? Mal 3 10 was even referring to the levitical priesthood, and no Nigerian pastor belongs to that tribe. How does paying tithe to a church/pastor equate to giving to God?

asuustrike2009:

The truth is bitter.
Neither thieves will inherit the kingdom of God .You are robber if you eat your tithe ( mal 3:8-10) . You wouldn't make it to heaven because God hates thieves ( 1 cor 6:9-10). Hate me all you want. Raise all curses but the scriptures can never be broken. The standard and word of God can never change. He is no a respecter of man.

Brother stop embarrassing yourself in public, you have made enough mockery of yourself too much. If you can answer this question that was asked by okcornel (below) you keep mute forever.
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By the way...since you insist that tithing is valid, how do you pay your tithes? is it in line with God's instructions in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29?

PrecisionFx:


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I am not surprised.

Clearly fleeing from clear bible fact wen it appears before u and confuses u. Nice day.

Even if I give you Bible fact you wouldn't believe. I have many on my medulla but your kind has made up not to believe so no need

ollah2:
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Imagine what this brainwashed deadbrain person wrote. So you have witnessed judgement day in the former life or What? I don't understand how some people reason like fooools when religion matters are concerned

The truth is bitter. No amount of quotes will change the standard of God.Yahweh is not a respecter of man. It is so bitter that you pour out anger and rage because it's piercing you. If you like quote from now till tomorrow, I will speak the truth without sweet coating like many le are doing.

Tithe is to God, Tax is to the government. Can you use your tax to fix the pothole on your street!.Give to cesear and give to God.

anaton:


Based on your last sentence,have you experienced the judgment day before to know that the will deny him??

Even if I tell you my experience, you would still not believe. So no need

Ok from your statement I can tell u just want truthfull answers. So I will be sincere.

I pay tithe to my local church. However I will not pay tithe when there is some less privillaged person I come across in need if help.

Secondly, I don't think paying tithe is wrong but the truth is Christ never asked us to pay tithe. Rather he said we should give to the widow fatherless those in prison and those that are sick.

Since my funds are limited I'll sick to the words of my Saviour.

WhoBeThisMan:
let me tell you. My brother. Jesus christ is our high priest now. The high priest is an office which still is. The Bible let's us know that He is the high priest for ever.

Hebrews 7
For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, 2 and to him Abraham apportioned a tenth part of everything. He is first, by translation of his name, king of righteousness, and then he is also king of Salem, that is, king of peace. 3 He is without father or mother or genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God he continues a priest forever.

4 See how great this man was to whom Abraham the patriarch gave a tenth of the spoils! 5 And those descendants of Levi who receive the priestly office have a commandment in the law to take tithes from the people, that is, from their brothers,[a] though these also are descended from Abraham

The Bible let's is know that He is the Priest, He is King, and also the sacrifice. The Lamb upon the throne.

He is worth of all my worship. If he demands 90% I will gladly give..

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Is your pastor taking your tithe a descendant of Levi?

bigsecsyde:
This guy must be a pastor, you don't make any sense with your replies on this post. Instead of using sentiment to respond, why not do like the other guy and bring out a bible verse to support that you go to hell if you don't tithe in the new testament and if you insist on tithing, tell us how you pay your tithe and see if it's in correlation with what the bibe instructed in the old testaments.
You lot know the truth but because of your greediness, you won't come out to tell the truth and you are the first to call people lucifer agent. This is 2018, only a fool will fall for the blackmail. Christains should be christ-like and if Christ didnt do it or command us to do it in the new testament then its something else you are practising.

Even if I bring bible verses you would not believe. If you have being following my write up,you would see many bible verses I used to illustrate. This time around I had to hit the nail on the head because Satan is crafty. Their agents are here .so no matter how I explain with bible verses, they will still sweet coat many. The reality is that God'sn standard can't change. It is better they know the truth now than they complain latter that they were not told. So even if 200 quote me, I will not sweet coat anything but will be hard as it is. So they insult,mock and laugh am not bothered.

WhoBeThisMan:
Jesus christ is "the seed" of Abraham, and He is made high priest for ever according to the order of melkizedek.

Melkizedek was called King of Salem, he was a man without beging of days or ending. He was a king and a priest.

Now Abraham gave tithe to melkizedek. Pls note that Abraham was not under the law as the law came by moses.

Today we are not under the law, jesus christ is our high priest after the order of melkizedek. We absolutely should follow our faithful father of faith, Abraham, and the church is the body of christ.

I pay my tithes, and I've been blessed by it, there is no one that can tell me all these blessings came by luck.. I know my sourse.

Give your tithe, don't follow these devilish preaching out to rub you of your blessing as a Christian
They come as sheeps, but inside they are wolfs.

Tithe was revealed in the Bible before the law. Came.

God bless you. Unfortunately, block heads calling themselves Christians, litter this thread.
Are you a deeper lifer?

Statsocial:

1) which church do you attend?

Pastors riding private jet is not an excuse to not giving to Church. There are more churches without jets than there are those with in Nigeria. And many are not even planning to buy one ever e.g Baptist, Methodist, Daystar, ECWA, Anglican, Apostolic faith, CAC, Methodist, FourSquare etc.

2) Giving to the poor NEVER absolves you the responsibility of giving to church

As long as you are a Christian you have the responsibility to fund your church as all of us do because if we all Christian take your step of giving to poor then there would be no more Church-Whether you belief in Tithing or not, arrange a worthy sum of your income and head to a ministry that suits you like the Orthodox and pay your dues. Then also set aside something good enough for those in need or are poor around you.

you have said it all.

asuustrike2009:

My dear don't assume that your tithe given to the poor is tithe. No matter how you see, that is not tithe instead it is seed. The day of judgment is fast approaching. Pastors will judged squarely for their actions so just leave them. It is only on earth that everyone has the opportunity to either behave well or abnormal. Once you cross over to the other side, there is no mercy. Everything will be revealed for you to see. Don't be moved by some satanic group asking you to pay your tithe to the poor because they will deny you on judgment day.( from experience)

We were never instructed to pay tithe.

The instruction was for the Jews.

And they were to pay to people of the tribe of Levi. the Levites

We are not Jews neither are our Pastors Levites. So why do we pay tithe?
.Even my the Priest in my church agreed that our modern day tithing has no scriptural backing. He said the only reason why we do it is to help build the church and provide money for running it, such as diesel for generators and stuff like that. We don't tithe in the Catholic church because it's a rule from God because God never made such rule.

asuustrike2009:

The truth is bitter. No amount of quotes will change the standard of God.Yahweh is not a respecter of man. It is so bitter that you pour out anger and rage because it's piercing you. If you like quote from now till tomorrow, I will speak the truth without sweet coating like many le are doing.

By your logic, God will like the idea of people dropping money in churches while the poor and needy die like cockroaches?

gratefulheart:
You are doing yourself not God or the Church or your pastor.

Tithe is different from giving to the poor scripturally.

Tithe is not negotiable though is a choice.

Giving to the poor is not giving to the beggars either but the widows, the less privilege in your community before you give to outside.

Giving to your parent is also important and there are 2 giving that avert curse tithe and giving to our parent. May God give you understanding.

common go to hell with ur stupid ideology. Given to the poor is the best way to please God, not given tithe to pastors or promoting their devilish actions and worships.

You are so stupid to know the truth

WhoBeThisMan:
Jesus christ is "the seed" of Abraham, and He is made high priest for ever according to the order of melkizedek.

Melkizedek was called King of Salem, he was a man without beging of days or ending. He was a king and a priest.

Now Abraham gave tithe to melkizedek. Pls note that Abraham was not under the law as the law came by moses.

Today we are not under the law, jesus christ is our high priest after the order of melkizedek. We absolutely should follow our faithful father of faith, Abraham, and the church is the body of christ.

I pay my tithes, and I've been blessed by it, there is no one that can tell me all these blessings came by luck.. I know my sourse.

Give your tithe, don't follow these devilish preaching out to rub you of your blessing as a Christian
They come as sheeps, but inside they are wolfs.

Tithe was revealed in the Bible before the law. Came.

Don't be deceived.

I believe God is the creator of the world and all that is there in. So all blessings come from him.

God doesn't bless you because you tithe or because you're a Christian or you attend Church. He blesses you because he chooses to. What about atheists who are rich? Isn't their blessing from God even tho they don't recognize it? Do they tithe?

Smh.

God blesses people according to His wish not because they give certain amount as tithe. It's like a fee. You can't pay God. If He blesses you thank him and shut up. Don't say it's because you tithe. You few thousands can never buy the least blessings from God, not even the blessing of waking up.

Paulpeterparker:
I really hate to see pastor riding on private jets while the poor are suffering. So i have decided to start paying my tithe's to the poor. Am i right? Or am making a very big mistake.

why making a public affair? if you like pay to devil is nor of our biz plssssssssssssssssssssss[/size]

My brother, yiu have just realised the most rewarding n fulfilling act. God will multiply u greatly for doing so. No pastor deserves a kobo frm ur pocket in the name if tithe. Go ahead

HeyCorleone:



Don't be deceived.

I believe God is the creator of the world and all that is there in. So all blessings come from him.

God doesn't bless you because you tithe or because you're a Christian or you attend Church. He blesses you because he chooses to. What about atheists who are rich? Isn't their blessing from God even tho they don't recognize it? Do they tithe?

Smh.

God blesses people according to His wish not because they give certain amount as tithe. It's like a fee. You can't pay God. If He blesses you thank him and shut up. Don't say it's because you tithe. You few thousands can never buy the least blessings from God, not even the blessing of waking up.

I'm blessed because I follow God with all my heart, and all my strength and all that's within me. I pay my tithe and I do so joyfully.

I'm not paying God hiw could I? He paid for me and I'm His. If he requires 10% of my finances, I think he is very generous. He could ask for it all I I will gladly give

HeyCorleone:



We were never instructed to pay tithe.

The instruction was for the Jews.

And they were to pay to people of the tribe of Levi. the Levites

We are not Jews neither are our Pastors Levites. So why do we pay tithe?
.Even my the Priest in my church agreed that our modern day tithing has no scriptural backing. He said the only reason why we do it is to help build the church and provide money for running it, such as diesel for generators and stuff like that. We don't tithe in the Catholic church because it's a rule from God because God never made such rule.

Ask you priest to go on his knee to pray and ask Jesus himself to teach him tithing. You should do likewise. God's word doesn't change. I use to think like your priest until I got deeper revelations. Well you have the cvoice to either hearken to my advice or take it the way you see it. Don't just believe whatever you pastor tells you but be convinced by the holy spirit through his word

philip0906:

God bless you. Unfortunately, block heads calling themselves Christians, litter this thread.
Are you a deeper lifer?

thanks my brother. I attend Christ Embassy

NORSIYK:

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Is your pastor taking your tithe a descendant of Levi?

pastor or not the church is the Body of Christ and I pay my tithe to christ by paying to the church

asuustrike2009:

It is not threat but it the reality. There is no need sugar coating it

I have been following this thread with keen interest, being a born again christian with little understanding of the tithing principles, and I shamelessly beg to disagree with you on this, they have not sugar coated anything, all I have seen here are facts backed with Bible verses, and I want you to counter it with Bible facts and verses and not insisting "it's reality " with no prove,
Agreeably Pastors out of selfish interest kept preaching tithing the way it favours them, little wonder establishment of churches has become more lucrative than oil business

asuustrike2009:

Ask you priest to go on his knee to pray and ask Jesus himself to teach him tithing. You should do likewise. God's word doesn't change. I use to think like your priest until I got deeper revelations. Well you have the cvoice to either hearken to my advice or take it the way you see it. Don't just believe whatever you pastor tells you but be convinced by the holy spirit through his word

I'm convinced paying tithe isn't obligatory.

If you understand the tradition of tithe you won't be reasoning like this. I can't be giving my tithe to uber rich pastors who tour the world in private jets. That's bullcrap.

The only giving preached by Jesus is the one for the poor because in the poor is where you find the face of God, not in uber rich pastors who father wealth for themselves.

WhoBeThisMan:

I'm blessed because I follow God with all my heart, and all my strength and all that's within me. I pay my tithe and I do so joyfully.

I'm not paying God hiw could I? He paid for me and I'm His. If he requires 10% of my finances, I think he is very generous. He could ask for it all I I will gladly give

He doesn't require 10% of your finances.

The church does.

That was the original meaning of tithe.

WhoBeThisMan:

I'm blessed because I follow God with all my heart, and all my strength and all that's within me. I pay my tithe and I do so joyfully.

I'm not paying God hiw could I? He paid for me and I'm His. If he requires 10% of my finances, I think he is very generous. He could ask for it all I I will gladly give

May God richly bless brother. Continue with the good work. Be faithful in serving Elohim in your time, your energy, in your money. Be consistent in it because there will be a time you would need it for certain prayers.
Tithing has being helpful to me. There is no excuse the accuser of the brethren can give because we dey dig am for prayers.

HeyCorleone:


He doesn't require 10% of your finances.

The church does.

That was the original meaning of tithe.

Who. Is the church my brother? No matter how small or big feel a church is, it's the body of christ.

THE Bible said so

HeyCorleone:



I'm convinced paying tithe isn't obligatory.

If you understand the tradition of tithe you won't be reasoning like this. I can't be giving my tithe to uber rich pastors who tour the world in private jets. That's bullcrap.

Study your bible. There are many churches to pay tithe if you feel the ones you see are flamboyant. There are smaller ministries in need of it to preach the gospel to all nations. You give to God not man. If you look at man to serve God, you wouldn't go to church. Whatever you see those flamboyant pastors do are in the bible. We are in perilous times so don't be surprised. Am telling you from experience because God doesn't look at human face to judge. He judge based on his word and not what man thinks. Shalom brother

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asuustrike2009:

Even if I tell you my experience, you would still not believe. So no need

Tell us brother.We want to hear it.

WhoBeThisMan:

Who. Is the church my brother? No matter how small or big feel a church is, it's the body of christ.

THE Bible said so

I believe in following God to the letter.

I am not a Jew. My Priest isn't a Levite. Why should I tithe?.


At least my Priest was bold enough to admit that tithe is a borrowed tradition. What did your pastor tell you? That it opens the windows of Heaven? That if you don't tithe you rob God? So you tithe out of fear basically. The fear of falling out of favour from God.

asuustrike2009:

Study your bible. There are many churches to pay tithe if you feel the ones you see are flamboyant. There are smaller ministries in need of it to preach the gospel to all nations. You give to God not man. If you look at man to serve God, you wouldn't go to church. Whatever you see those flamboyant pastors do are in the bible. We are in perilous times so don't be surprised. Am telling you from experience because God doesn't look at human face to judge. He judge based on his word and not what man thinks. Shalom brother

Then if it's giving to God, I'd rather give to the poor who are described as the "face of God".

guyla:


I have been following this thread with keen interest, being a born again christian with little understanding of the tithing principles, and I shamelessly beg to disagree with you on this, they have not sugar coated anything, all I have seen here are facts backed with Bible verses, and I want you to counter it with Bible facts and verses and not insisting "it's reality " with no prove,
Agreeably Pastors out of selfish interest kept preaching tithing the way it favours them, little wonder establishment of churches has become more lucrative than oil business

Brother tithing has being there before these flamboyant pastors spring forth and would remain till Jesus come. God will judge mankind based on his word. Many non tithers are in hell because of ignorance. It is only on earth we argue , once you cross over to the other side,you would see the reality of all I have being saying.
Didn't Satan deceive Eve? Didn't Satan use bible verses to tempt Jesus?. Satan knows the bible and he will use same bible to mock man after God's judgment.
Take your time and watch those churches preaching the undiluted word of God to see if they skip tithing or say members shouldn't pay?. Pastors pay tithe if you don't know. If they don't, the same standard that Elohim will use against man will be applied on them. False prophets will arise to deceive many so don't be surprised. What God wants from you is that you play your part to please him.