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Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Nobody: 12:32pm On Jan 14
HeyCorleone:



Then if it's giving to God, I'd rather give to the poor who are described as the "face of God".
Be bible is not against helping the poor. Infacf we should help them because of this verse in the bible ( Prov 19:17). It is a seed you have down but it is different from tithe. Giving to the poor is not tithe. In the sight of God it's a seed. The devourer will strike because you didn't tithe ( mal 3:8-10). The word of God can't change at all no man how crafty man his.

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Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by walls01: 12:33pm On Jan 14
asuustrike2009:

My dear don't assume that your tithe given to the poor is tithe. No matter how you see, that is not tithe instead it is seed. The day of judgment is fast approaching. Pastors will judged squarely for their actions so just leave them. It is only on earth that everyone has the opportunity to either behave well or abnormal. Once you cross over to the other side, there is no mercy. Everything will be revealed for you to see. Don't be moved by some satanic group asking you to pay your tithe to the poor because they will deny you on judgment day.( from experience)

if you read the life of jesus very will know what is required of God from us
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Nobody: 12:37pm On Jan 14
anaton:
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Tell us brother.We want to hear it.
Your heart isn't open( zec 7:12, ).
Tithing has being discussed on this forum and I have given many bible verses.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by zimuzo: 12:38pm On Jan 14
gratefulheart:
You are doing yourself not God or the Church or your pastor.

Tithe is different from giving to the poor scripturally.

Tithe is not negotiable though is a choice.

Giving to the poor is not giving to the beggars either but the widows, the less privilege in your community before you give to outside.

Giving to your parent is also important and there are 2 giving that avert curse tithe and giving to our parent. May God give you understanding.



My friend shut up. Helping the poor is far better than paying tithe to a pastor or even a priest.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by WhoBeThisMan: 12:40pm On Jan 14
HeyCorleone:



I believe in following God to the letter.

I am not a Jew. My Priest isn't a Levite. Why should I tithe?.


At least my Priest was bold enough to admit that tithe is a borrowed tradition. What did your pastor tell you? That it opens the windows of Heaven? That if you don't tithe you rob God? So you tithe out of fear basically. The fear of falling out of favour from God.
My pastor didn't put fear in my heart, and what I do I do out of love not fear.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Paulosky1900: 12:40pm On Jan 14
Paulpeterparker:
I really hate to see pastor riding on private jets while the poor are suffering. So i have decided to start paying my tithe's to the poor. Am i right? Or am making a very big mistake.

THEIR IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT, ANY GOOD YOU DO TO YOUR FELLOW HUMAN BEING YOU DID IT TO GOD...carry on brother

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Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Nobody: 12:42pm On Jan 14
walls01:


if you read the life of jesus very will know what is required of God from us
Jesus is the word. He was there from the beginning of creation and never a time did he spoke against tithing.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by sunbreaker: 12:52pm On Jan 14
asuustrike2009:

My dear don't assume that your tithe given to the poor is tithe. No matter how you see, that is not tithe instead it is seed. The day of judgment is fast approaching. Pastors will judged squarely for their actions so just leave them. It is only on earth that everyone has the opportunity to either behave well or abnormal. Once you cross over to the other side, there is no mercy. Everything will be revealed for you to see. Don't be moved by some satanic group asking you to pay your tithe to the poor because they will deny you on judgment day.( from experience)
.'From experience'…av u been judged before ?
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by walls01: 12:53pm On Jan 14
asuustrike2009:

Jesus is the word. He was there from the beginning of creation and never a time did he spoke against tithing.

yes he did not condemn anything, he said he did not come to change the law yet he clearly did. Take eye for an eye as example.
Jesus came to show us what God realy requires from us you must umderstand the differene
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Saintdaprince(m): 12:55pm On Jan 14
Paulpeterparker:
I really hate to see pastor riding on private jets while the poor are suffering. So i have decided to start paying my tithe's to the poor. Am i right? Or am making a very big mistake.

Giving to the poor or needy in the society is not bad.

God said we should return our tithes. Point Of correction, we don't pay tithes but we return it to the owner.

Bring ye all the tithes into the store house of God...... Malachi 3:10.

It is wrong to return your tithes in a wrong place. Be guided my son.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by JustMercy: 12:57pm On Jan 14
Paulpeterparker:
I really hate to see pastor riding on private jets while the poor are suffering. So i have decided to start paying my tithe's to the poor. Am i right? Or am making a very big mistake.

No problem. Just get someone among those poor to serve as your pastor. He will also lead you on evangelism, mission work, ur marriage counseling and other necessary spiritual functions.

You see I have tried not respond to this unnecessary debate and talk on tithe. I know that it is only the babe in Christianity or unbelievers that gets bothered about tithe.

Let me tell you that tithe is for people under the law but all your income is owned by God for those under grace in Christ. If what God is getting from you for the expansion of the gospel is just your tithe that means 90% of your life is stilled own by you. The bible says Jesus died for us and paid with His life for our debt. Our debt as human is death. The wages of sin is death.

Jesus Christ abolished the killing of ram (that doesn't voluntarily give his life for human but was forcefully killed in d Old Testament) and voluntarily offer His own life for our lives. Outside life, what do you have? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Damnation in fire for sinners and eternal life for the saint (repented sinner).

So if Christ life is your life. Who owns your money? Eni to ni eru lo ni eru.

Jesus Christ, the disciples and Paul, do they emphasis tithe, no.

I guess tithes is being emphasized today in church because we have more of unrepentant sinners, disobedient Christian, fearful Christian, worldly Christian etc more than the faithful children of God. The faithful will offer their lives, time and resources for the gospel while the former will give only tithes.

After paying their tithes,
They spend d rest recklessly
They spend frivolously
They commit sin with the remaining 90%
They will not help the needy ones in the church
They will not contribute to any other needy for the gospel again

WHY? simple, they have paid their tithes.

Christian lives shouldn't be like this. It must be a generous life as guided and controlled by Christ.

If your Pastor is mismanaging church fund and you can proof it. Walk up to him and counsel him. If u can't walk up to him go to another bible and mission minded church.

LET US STOP THIS STUPID AND UNREASONABLE DEBATE ON PAYING TITHE OR NOT AND LET US USE OUR LIFE, TIME AND RESOURCES TO DO THE WILL OF GOD.

If you are not a bastard, you will hear God's voice and give to God has he demands from you and not as you have regulate yourself.

No these please
It is not your tithe that is keeping you alive
It is not your tithe that makes you rich
It is not your tithes that protects you from devourer
It is not your tithes that will take you to heaven
It is your TRUST, DEPENDENCE AND OBIDIENCE TO JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD AND PERSONAL SAVIOUR.

BE A GENEROUS GIVER TO THE COURSE OF THE GOSPEL. YOU HAVE NOTHING THEY ALL BELONG TO GOD EVEN YOUR LIFE.

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Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by livebullet(m): 1:00pm On Jan 14
Paulpeterparker:
I really hate to see pastor riding on private jets while the poor are suffering. So i have decided to start paying my tithe's to the poor. Am i right? Or am making a very big mistake.

It's ok...please read more on Mother Theresa. And never make a show of it when you do charitable work.

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Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by livebullet(m): 1:00pm On Jan 14
Paulpeterparker:
I really hate to see pastor riding on private jets while the poor are suffering. So i have decided to start paying my tithe's to the poor. Am i right? Or am making a very big mistake.


It's ok...please read more on Mother Theresa. And never make a show of it when you do charitable work.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 1:05pm On Jan 14
livebullet:



It's ok...please read more on Mother Theresa. And never make a show of it when you do charitable work.
Very true.

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Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Radicalman(m): 1:09pm On Jan 14
That is practical Christianity, nothing is wrong with that
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Maichelkim(m): 1:10pm On Jan 14
Isn't paying to pastors not better? Let them flex nah; afterral they do the talking&shouting in church.

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Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by wirinet(m): 1:18pm On Jan 14
asuustrike2009:

My dear don't assume that your tithe given to the poor is tithe. No matter how you see, that is not tithe instead it is seed. The day of judgment is fast approaching. Pastors will judged squarely for their actions so just leave them. It is only on earth that everyone has the opportunity to either behave well or abnormal. Once you cross over to the other side, there is no mercy. Everything will be revealed for you to see. Don't be moved by some satanic group asking you to pay your tithe to the poor because they will deny you on judgment day.( from experience)

Foul! Jesus never tied salvation to tithes. Christ never taught that you will be judged according to tithes. That is false doctrine.

@OP, you are on the right path as Jesus commanded his followers to help the poor.

Read John 21:15 - 17 to know what Jesus commanded;


John 21:15-17 King James Version (KJV)

15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.

16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.


This is why i support Daddy Freeze trying to Free the Sheeples, which has proven to be an impossible task. Until the sheep is free off their task masters (Salvation according to tithe pastors), the sheep cannot be fed.

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Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Nygma(m): 1:50pm On Jan 14
Help the poor survive another day and forget about those asking for #50 billion to build their so called church.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Duru009(m): 1:52pm On Jan 14
The poor cannot bless you but only God can bless you wen you give to the church !

But you can give to the poor but do not pay your tithe to the poor !
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by kernel505: 1:52pm On Jan 14
gratefulheart:
You are doing yourself not God or the Church or your pastor.

Tithe is different from giving to the poor scripturally.

Tithe is not negotiable though is a choice.

Giving to the poor is not giving to the beggars either but the widows, the less privilege in your community before you give to outside.

Giving to your parent is also important and there are 2 giving that avert curse tithe and giving to our parent. May God give you understanding.




Stop being proud of ignorant, this is what the Bible said concerning tithe, not your Pastor's sermon.


And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

Deuteronomy 14:29

It's aimed towards poverty alleviation within the household of God. One can give it to Pastors, strangers, fatherless and widows according to the above verse, the Bible didn't say we must hand it over to our Pastors.

Let's stop spreading theories of men, but the word of God.

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Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Yesbody: 1:59pm On Jan 14
motiond16:
Contact ddady freez and run away 4rm Oyedepo and Adebayo private jet competitors.

Sorry who is Adebayo ?
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by bezimo(m): 2:03pm On Jan 14
Paulpeterparker:
I really hate to see pastor riding on private jets while the poor are suffering. So i have decided to start paying my tithe's to the poor. Am i right? Or am making a very big mistake.

We are told from the bible giving to the poor has its place, giving to God by tithing also has its place.. Giving tithe doesnt excuse you from giving to the poor..and vice versa..Give to God what is God, give to ceasar what is ceasar.
If you wont. All well and fine. Its your money afterall. You decide.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Sutiv: 2:03pm On Jan 14
10% of your income/profit does not belong to you. It is for the weak in the society and that is why God said that we should bring the tithe to my house so that there will enough food in my house for the weak in the society. Matt:23 shows that Charity is more than tithing.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Nauttyprof(m): 2:04pm On Jan 14
Here is the truth Freeze refused to say but was just being one sided in the whole thing.

Recall that Christ didn't come to abolish the Laws but to fulfill this. In this, brought many upgrade, from Passover we have the Lord's supper, killing of animal we call the blood of Christ for remission of sins, observing the Laws through our works to allowing the Holy Spirit to work in us to do God's will and so on.

Back to the main issue, Tithe isn't applicable in the era of grace but have been upgraded to giving. Now, we are to give to honour God and by the value we place on God not bounded by 10%. Hence, we can give 10, 20 and as much as we can according to the way we honour and value God. Remember, the book of 2 Corinthians 9:6-7 it points to the fact that the believers aren't forced to give but as a result of giving their lives to Christ and personal encounter with Him, they give as a response to this.

As taught, here are the types of giving as stated in the Bible:

1. Giving to the needy - Acts 24:7, Acts 6:2.
2. Giving to the Saints - Romans 12:13, Galatians 6:10.
3. Giving to the local church- 2 Cor. 11:8, 1 Thess. 2:5-9.
4. Giving to ministries reaching out to the world - PHIL. 4:6.
5.Giving to the teacher who has imparted your life in God by sharing all the good things you have- Galatians 6:6.

So, you can replace giving to your church for the needy. They are two different responsibilities giving to believers.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by deebrownneymar: 2:07pm On Jan 14
gratefulheart:
You are doing yourself not God or the Church or your pastor.

Tithe is different from giving to the poor scripturally.

Tithe is not negotiable though is a choice.

Giving to the poor is not giving to the beggars either but the widows, the less privilege in your community before you give to outside.

Giving to your parent is also important and there are 2 giving that avert curse tithe and giving to our parent. May God give you understanding.




Oga you contradict yourself when you said tithes is non-negotiable and it's a choice in one sentence.

Please study Deuteronomy 14 careful. Read Malachai from 2:1 to 3:10

Besides tithing was one of the more than 600 many laws in the old testament. Pastors have successfully picked the ones that favours their greed and maintained it by brainwashing customers.

News flash...we are no longer under the law bro. You were on point on the other things you mentioned.

The truth is that love is the new law introduced by our Lord and saviour, Jesus. Love supersedes and overwrite the old law. Love is more than enough to cover up for the old law.

Jesus and his disciple never tithed and never burdened their followers with demands for tithes, offerings etc. Do you know Jesus fed circa 5000 men twice? Women were not even counted. Imagine how many Jesus fed if they were counted.

In fact apostle Paul would never take, he would rather work for his daily bread.

It's a grave sin for pastors to enrich themselves with tithes.

Ask yourself thus question...why is it written that judgement would start from the church? One of the major reasons it could be is that pastors have made themselves god over their congregants.
I pray more sense come to many more Nigerians this year.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by bejeria101(m): 2:11pm On Jan 14
Go and ask daddy fridge! He is an expert in tithing matters.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by Ubenedictus(m): 2:25pm On Jan 14
NairaMaster1:

The Bible didn't tell you to pay tithe to the poor. You're instructed to give to the poor which is good. Kindly give to the poor but don't call it tithe and advise you to grow in the world and neglect the anti Christian movements. Jesus Christ Loves you

Doerstech:
If you're a Christian you will know the right thing to do.

paying your tithe and giving to the poor are two different things.....

Enough said.
the poor are among those who should be given the tithe


Deuteronomy 26 vs 12.
When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all
your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe,
you shall give it to the Levite, the foreigner, the
fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in
your towns and be satisfied.
Deuteronomy 14 vs 28.
At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes
of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29
so that the Levites (who have no allotment or
inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the
fatherless and the widows who live in your towns
may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the
Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your
hands
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by PrecisionFx(m): 2:38pm On Jan 14
asuustrike2009:

Even if I give you Bible fact you wouldn't believe. I have many on my medulla but your kind has made up not to believe so no need

I have already shown pure bible proof to u amd yet ur telling me bout what u have in ur medulla.


U have also made up ur mind before today so why should I offer more bible proof to u ?


Tithe doesn't take anyone to heaven, Grace n Salvation alone does.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by darkchild64: 2:40pm On Jan 14
asuustrike2009 has just made my day,but what is the big deal in this tithing self,CHRISTIANS DON'T OBEY THE BIBLE THEY FOLLOW CHURCH DOCTRINE,the Catholic church prays to/through saints,there is nothing you would tell a catholic to make him/her change his/her mind even when the practice is not in the Bible, your bible says the Sabbath should be on Saturday but doctrine has changed it to Sunday,the bible says that tithe should be farm produce and livestock and was to be given to the Levites and less privileged while a certain portion was to be a burnt offering to "God" but your doctrine has changed it to money given to the pastors and the church,anyways whatever

If u want to pay tithe,feel free to do so its ur money and noone decides for u how to spend it,if u don't pay tithe,also feel free to do so, u Christians should stop making a nuisance of ur religion
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by juchifroot: 2:48pm On Jan 14
don't bother going to church where others' tithes sponsor. Earn your salvation with your good deeds. mtcheew
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by PrecisionFx(m): 2:48pm On Jan 14
Sutiv:
10% of your income/profit does not belong to you. It is for the weak in the society and that is why God said that we should bring the tithe to my house so that there will enough food in my house for the weak in the society. Matt:23 shows that Charity is more than tithing.




God didn't tell Israelites to bring in their tithe into the Lord's house so that they may be food in his house. This instruction from God is for the Levites/Pastors/Priests.



Tithe is paid to the widows, orphans, levites, fatherless, Foreigners who have no land, poor people in General.

Stop misquoting the bible n misleading the people.
Re: I Want To Start Paying My Tithes To The Poor. Is Any Thing Wrong With That? by juchifroot: 2:50pm On Jan 14
PrecisionFx:


I have already shown pure bible proof to u amd yet ur telling me bout what u have in ur medulla.


U have also made up ur mind before today so why should I offer more bible proof to u ?


Tithe doesn't take anyone to heaven, Grace n Salvation alone does.

any room for Christian living in your Gospel?

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