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removetheturban:
Maybe you should edify me on what Jesus preached. What did he preach?

Did you confirm the statistics of 8.4m in 240 lands or you just believe it becomes it comes from your leader? Which independent source confirms? How ironic you believe in 8.4m in 240 lands without doubting because your leader says so but doubted at the idea someone converted a babalawo to accept christ?

Is it only JWs that love and encourage people to read the Bible?

How does asking someone to explain his stands and the person ignores it because it is not favorable counts for persecution?

Can you kindly point to the bible were Jesus came to the earth to declare Jehovah's mightiest? Were did Jesus preach earthly paradise? Beautiful homes? Nice government?

alBHAGDADI:
Mathew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


Did you read the above verse? That was Jesus Christ speaking to his disciples and giving them a great commission. They are to go into all parts of the world and preach the gospel to every human on earth.

Today, the group called Jehovah's Witnesses often pride themselves saying they are the only ones doing that assignment given by Jesus Christ. Whenever they make such statement, they hardly get any objection cos most people have at one time had them knock on their door to preach to them. I also fell for that talk from them which made me see them as the only ones fulfilling Christ's commission. It made me feel bad about folds in Christianity cos I can't recall the last time someone approached me to preach.

Over the years, I've come to realize how much of a falsehood the statement is and how it positions them to reap from where they did not sow.
Where were the JW when Christians were facing challenges spreading the gospel in difficult parts of the world? Do you know the trouble faced by the missionaries who brought Christianity to Africa and even South America? They battled malaria, diseases, voodoo, ritualists, hostile communities, pagan beliefs and culture, wickedness, cannibalism etc. Yet, God helped them succeeded. That's why we have Christianity in Africa and other parts of the world. Did the JW face any of those or were part of those missionaries? NO.

When the missionaries had succeeded in establishing Christianity in major places, the JW now showed up when conditions had become favorable. What they are doing now is going from door to door, trying to convert Christians and turn them to JW. It now becomes nauseating that they are boasting of being the only organization that preaches from door to door. Where was the JW organization when conditions were harsh?

If they really want sensible people to accept their claims, then they should go establish in a ground that is hostile. They should try and establish Kingdom Halls in hostile Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc. They should go preach from door to door and see if they will last a day. Yet, we have Christian bodies in those countries going through the storm of persecution in those countries.

The Europe where JW are at peace today, do they know what the Catholic Church faced before Christianity could be established there?

So, before a JW boasts to you of how is Organization are the only ones preaching from door to door, let him know that they were never around when conditions were harsh and hostile.

true2god:
You are right. JW is an organization set up primarily to oppose established Christian Churches and doctrines; they have no business with non-christians. I have spent more than 10 years studying the JW's 'AWAKE' and 'WATCHTOWER' magazines and come to conclusion that they are filled with Christian-biased messages and doctrines, twisting the Bible to conform to their 'what the Bible really teaches'. The JW magazines with never attack Islam, Hinduism, Budism, etc, never, but will spend all their energy attacking the Catholics, the Orthodox and the Pentecostal churches, mostly in a rather subtle ways.

On a political note, they attack the German Nazis of events that took place almost 80 years ago, and how the JW members suffered in their hands, as if no other human beings suffered in world war 2. I am 100% sure if the Nazis had won the second world war, their current magazines won't attack the Nazis but the allied forces for crime against humanity. This is one of the things that make the JW very deceptive and cunny.

They have stopped knocking at my door when I challenged one of them with facts, points and scholarly evidences, even taking them back to their own history. I didn't ask them to stop coming but they used their brains wisely seeing the futility of engaging me. To make matter worse, it seems they even tell other witnesses to avoid my house completely; they knock my neighbour's doors but always miraculously avoiding my doors.

Xisnin:
Two delusional group of sheeples fighting each other, wetin be my own.

rottennaija:
the questions were for you to answer. Do not try to shift it.

The sooner you woke to the disillusionment, the better. I am glad i woke from it before i clocked 30, not after spending decades like some people I have read of. When the present set of governing body members dies, and they look for another overlapping generation doctrine to cover up their mess, as 1914 keeps shifting into the far past, and their false prophecies keep failing, maybe then, you will be too ashamed to admit it that you had been a part of false religion, Babylon the great.

The same way the governing body teach JWs today practice lines on earthly paradise, nice home and new earth is the same way Rutherford taught JWs to practice lines on how to sell their publications on "millions now living will never die". See screen shot below:

As a false prophecy it was, it failed. Now, I am waiting for the "overlapping generation" to fail too and it will. Because, God never bless a false prophet by making their prophecies come true.

GreenArrow1:
Is the territory not big enough for all you guys to explore? You guys are like drug dealers (and y'all should face the same punishement in a government prison) battling for territory. I'd gladly let in a JW talk to me than some hypocrite Christian thinking only about more income for his church. You lot are the reason why Christianity keeps losing members daily. This clannish us vs them mentality is the reason why religion is loathed by som many people who previously had faith.

removetheturban:
Have you taken your best shot? Is there more to give? Are you preaching or are you attacking? How can you describe what you just typed considering the fact that you yourself said that Jesus commanded you to preach? Who sent you this one that you are doing now?

What did you wake up from before you clocked 30?

removetheturban:
Have you taken your best shot? Is there more to give? Are you preaching or are you attacking? How can you describe what you just typed considering the fact that you yourself said that Jesus commanded you to preach? Who sent you this one that you are doing now?

What did you wake up from before you clocked 30?

rottennaija:
the questions were for you to answer. Do not try to shift it.


Did you confirm the statistics of 8.4m in 240 lands or you just believe it becomes it comes from your leader? Which independent source confirms? How ironic you believe in 8.4m in 240 lands without doubting because your leader says so but doubted at the idea someone converted a babalawo to accept christ?

Is it only JWs that love and encourage people to read the Bible?

How does asking someone to explain his stands and the person ignores it because it is not favorable counts for persecution?

Can you kindly point to the bible were Jesus came to the earth to declare Jehovahs mightiest? Were did Jesus preach earthly paradise? Beautiful homes? Nice government?

alBHAGDADI:
Mathew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


Did you read the above verse? That was Jesus Christ speaking to his disciples and giving them a great commission. They are to go into all parts of the world and preach the gospel to every human on earth.

Today, the group called Jehovah's Witnesses often pride themselves saying they are the only ones doing that assignment given by Jesus Christ. Whenever they make such statement, they hardly get any objection cos most people have at one time had them knock on their door to preach to them. I also fell for that talk from them which made me see them as the only ones fulfilling Christ's commission. It made me feel bad about folds in Christianity cos I can't recall the last time someone approached me to preach.

Over the years, I've come to realize how much of a falsehood the statement is and how it positions them to reap from where they did not sow.
Where were the JW when Christians were facing challenges spreading the gospel in difficult parts of the world? Do you know the trouble faced by the missionaries who brought Christianity to Africa and even South America? They battled malaria, diseases, voodoo, ritualists, hostile communities, pagan beliefs and culture, wickedness, cannibalism etc. Yet, God helped them succeeded. That's why we have Christianity in Africa and other parts of the world. Did the JW face any of those or were part of those missionaries? NO.

When the missionaries had succeeded in establishing Christianity in major places, the JW now showed up when conditions had become favorable. What they are doing now is going from door to door, trying to convert Christians and turn them to JW. It now becomes nauseating that they are boasting of being the only organization that preaches from door to door. Where was the JW organization when conditions were harsh?

If they really want sensible people to accept their claims, then they should go establish in a ground that is hostile. They should try and establish Kingdom Halls in hostile Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc. They should go preach from door to door and see if they will last a day. Yet, we have Christian bodies in those countries going through the storm of persecution in those countries.

The Europe where JW are at peace today, do they know what the Catholic Church faced before Christianity could be established there?

So, before a JW boasts to you of how is Organization are the only ones preaching from door to door, let him know that they were never around when conditions were harsh and hostile.

nans24:
You have not answered his own question above, and you expect him to answer yours?

true2god:
You are right. JW is an organization set up primarily to oppose established Christian Churches and doctrines; they have no business with non-christians. I have spent more than 10 years studying the JW's 'AWAKE' and 'WATCHTOWER' magazines and come to conclusion that they are filled with Christian-biased messages and doctrines, twisting the Bible to conform to their 'what the Bible really teaches'. The JW magazines with never attack Islam, Hinduism, Budism, etc, never, but will spend all their energy attacking the Catholics, the Orthodox and the Pentecostal churches, mostly in a rather subtle ways.

On a political note, they attack the German Nazis of events that took place almost 80 years ago, and how the JW members suffered in their hands, as if no other human beings suffered in world war 2. I am 100% sure if the Nazis had won the second world war, their current magazines won't attack the Nazis but the allied forces for crime against humanity. This is one of the things that make the JW very deceptive and cunny.

They have stopped knocking at my door when I challenged one of them with facts, points and scholarly evidences, even taking them back to their own history. I didn't ask them to stop coming but they used their brains wisely seeing the futility of engaging me. To make matter worse, it seems they even tell other witnesses to avoid my house completely; they knock my neighbour's doors but always miraculously avoiding my doors.

alBHAGDADI:
Mathew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


Did you read the above verse? That was Jesus Christ speaking to his disciples and giving them a great commission. They are to go into all parts of the world and preach the gospel to every human on earth.

Today, the group called Jehovah's Witnesses often pride themselves saying they are the only ones doing that assignment given by Jesus Christ. Whenever they make such statement, they hardly get any objection cos most people have at one time had them knock on their door to preach to them. I also fell for that talk from them which made me see them as the only ones fulfilling Christ's commission. It made me feel bad about folds in Christianity cos I can't recall the last time someone approached me to preach.

Over the years, I've come to realize how much of a falsehood the statement is and how it positions them to reap from where they did not sow.
Where were the JW when Christians were facing challenges spreading the gospel in difficult parts of the world? Do you know the trouble faced by the missionaries who brought Christianity to Africa and even South America? They battled malaria, diseases, voodoo, ritualists, hostile communities, pagan beliefs and culture, wickedness, cannibalism etc. Yet, God helped them succeeded. That's why we have Christianity in Africa and other parts of the world. Did the JW face any of those or were part of those missionaries? NO.

When the missionaries had succeeded in establishing Christianity in major places, the JW now showed up when conditions had become favorable. What they are doing now is going from door to door, trying to convert Christians and turn them to JW. It now becomes nauseating that they are boasting of being the only organization that preaches from door to door. Where was the JW organization when conditions were harsh?

If they really want sensible people to accept their claims, then they should go establish in a ground that is hostile. They should try and establish Kingdom Halls in hostile Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc. They should go preach from door to door and see if they will last a day. Yet, we have Christian bodies in those countries going through the storm of persecution in those countries.

The Europe where JW are at peace today, do they know what the Catholic Church faced before Christianity could be established there?

So, before a JW boasts to you of how is Organization are the only ones preaching from door to door, let him know that they were never around when conditions were harsh and hostile.

Jokerman:
In as much as we know that JW have a lot of flaws , Many Pentecostal churches still want to convert many Christians to their own church too

KKKWHITE:
JW are far better than you so called Christians you preach what you don't practice you Christians are so materialistic

alBHAGDADI:
The JW owe us an explanation when they pride and boast in saying they are the ones who carry out Christ's assignment of preaching to people. How can make such a boast when the people you are preaching to are already Christians? If you think you have the right to boast about preaching to Christians, then what do you expect those missionaries who went through hell to convert those people to Christianity to do?

I wonder where I said I do not like JW. Why are you suddenly taking the victim or the persecuted position? You spend all your money publishing watchtower and awake magazines to discredit the Catholic Church and other Pentecostal Churches, but when they expose your falsehood, you claim they don't like you and are persecuting you.

I can assure you that if the few missionaries facing persecution in Saudi Arabia successfully convert the country to a Christian country, you JW will immediately go there and start trying to convert the Christians to JW. You will start boasting of how you are the only ones preaching from door to door in Saudi Arabia, but you were never there when conditions were harsh and hostile.

ImaIma1:
More like knock on your door to argue with you and impose their beliefs.

rottennaija:
Here comes this one with hasty generalization. I have seen some JWs that are better than other Christians. I have seen others that are far better than JWs.

It depends on the individual on which group he belongs to. But the most dogmatic jw is an extremist.

DavidEsq:
JWs are everywhere. In Russia, they have been banned. That environment is a very hostile one. The only countries JWs have no kingdom Hall are North Korea, Sudan and Afghanistan. If u build a Kingdom Hall and it get burnt and everyone killed, how do u get to preach. That's why we have the jw.org for such countries and a lot of persons from these hostile countries are studying the bible online, with JWs. Someone once said dat it is only a fool that wld draw the sword, wen all he needed to do was use the bow and arrow.

imstrong1:
two ladies from jw came to my house for evengelism.. I wasn't in the mood for argument so I simply asked them to start with a word of prayer, what I know they hardly do, they left with style with a promise of coming back. They never came back I think they will avoid my room

alBHAGDADI:
Mathew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


Did you read the above verse? That was Jesus Christ speaking to his disciples and giving them a great commission. They are to go into all parts of the world and preach the gospel to every human on earth.

Today, the group called Jehovah's Witnesses often pride themselves saying they are the only ones doing that assignment given by Jesus Christ. Whenever they make such statement, they hardly get any objection cos most people have at one time had them knock on their door to preach to them. I also fell for that talk from them which made me see them as the only ones fulfilling Christ's commission. It made me feel bad about folds in Christianity cos I can't recall the last time someone approached me to preach.

Over the years, I've come to realize how much of a falsehood the statement is and how it positions them to reap from where they did not sow.
Where were the JW when Christians were facing challenges spreading the gospel in difficult parts of the world? Do you know the trouble faced by the missionaries who brought Christianity to Africa and even South America? They battled malaria, diseases, voodoo, ritualists, hostile communities, pagan beliefs and culture, wickedness, cannibalism etc. Yet, God helped them succeeded. That's why we have Christianity in Africa and other parts of the world. Did the JW face any of those or were part of those missionaries? NO.

When the missionaries had succeeded in establishing Christianity in major places, the JW now showed up when conditions had become favorable. What they are doing now is going from door to door, trying to convert Christians and turn them to JW. It now becomes nauseating that they are boasting of being the only organization that preaches from door to door. Where was the JW organization when conditions were harsh?

If they really want sensible people to accept their claims, then they should go establish in a ground that is hostile. They should try and establish Kingdom Halls in hostile Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc. They should go preach from door to door and see if they will last a day. Yet, we have Christian bodies in those countries going through the storm of persecution in those countries.

The Europe where JW are at peace today, do they know what the Catholic Church faced before Christianity could be established there?

So, before a JW boasts to you of how is Organization are the only ones preaching from door to door, let him know that they were never around when conditions were harsh and hostile.

alBHAGDADI:
The JW owe us an explanation when they pride and boast in saying they are the ones who carry out Christ's assignment of preaching to people. How can make such a boast when the people you are preaching to are already Christians? If you think you have the right to boast about preaching to Christians, then what do you expect those missionaries who went through hell to convert those people to Christianity to do?

I wonder where I said I do not like JW. Why are you suddenly taking the victim or the persecuted position? You spend all your money publishing watchtower and awake magazines to discredit the Catholic Church and other Pentecostal Churches, but when they expose your falsehood, you claim they don't like you and are persecuting you.

I can assure you that if the few missionaries facing persecution in Saudi Arabia successfully convert the country to a Christian country, you JW will immediately go there and start trying to convert the Christians to JW. You will start boasting of how you are the only ones preaching from door to door in Saudi Arabia, but you were never there when conditions were harsh and hostile.

tonyimadu:
this is so unfair. What is wrong with Christians. We go online to discredit another church.
The propose of the post was simply to discredit the missionary efforts of JW. Its wicked and unnecessary.
If the JW are breaking the Lord's commandments that's a different matter. But we start a trend that encourages stupid debate. What is wrong with us.
Now its make it a private matter. let everyone ask himself, how well am I doing in preaching the gospel. What sacrifice have I made for the kingdom. Do I give my time, my recourse and my all to the furtherance of the gospel? if not I have failed indeed

tonyimadu:
this is so unfair. What is wrong with Christians. We go online to discredit another church.
The propose of the post was simply to discredit the missionary efforts of JW. Its wicked and unnecessary.
If the JW are breaking the Lord's commandments that's a different matter. But we start a trend that encourages stupid debate. What is wrong with us.
Now its make it a private matter. let everyone ask himself, how well am I doing in preaching the gospel. What sacrifice have I made for the kingdom. Do I give my time, my recourse and my all to the furtherance of the gospel? if not I have failed indeed

rottennaija:
Is it only jw kingdom halls that are burnt down? Are churches not burnt down too? Are Christians not persecuted in those countries? Are they not in prison for their believes? Are they not also ban in Russia?

Emmanystone:
I went for Evangelism 2 yrs ago and met a man who when i began talking to him, he introduced himself as a Babalawo. They way he said it, he meant to scare me, but instead of being scared, i sat down and took him on so genlty that he didn't know when i led him to Christ.

He said the sinners prayers, before he knew it. He kept asking me, who are you? He asked me that 5times. Who are you that you don't have fear? I told him i represent Jesus, and in Jesus there's no fear. He told me why he kept asking me who I was.

He said, many people had gone to him, but immediately they hear, 'I be Babalawo o, they turn back and leave, but he told me that, instead of leaving, i sat down.

He said countless Jehovah's Witnesses had gone to him, but they turn back and leave as they hear who he was.

The next day, i took a pastor to his shrine, where he lived, before us, he brought out his neck, chain, his hand band and rings and destroyed them before us. He knelt down and was seriously prayed for. Today he is a Christian. I spoke with him today. He will be in church tomorrow.

What are the JW afraid of that they don't confront satan? They wait for territories to be conquered before they come with their kingdom message. I won't be surprised that they will now go to the former Babalawo to preach the kingdom.

Be careful those of you who entertain these people thinking they are serving God. They hate Christians fiercely.

Just imagine the part Festus Keyamo played in Otobo's saga, all because he is a witness and Apostle Suleman is Christian.

Stay away from their energy.

removetheturban:
Maybe you should edify me on what Jesus preached. What did he preach?

hopefulLandlord:
What's the title of this mount Zion film?