butterflyl1on:


Why do you cherry pick. Why not post the entire scripture. Being obtuse shouldn't be genetic for you should it?

That chapter, Jesus was talking about what those who believe in him should expect. Accepting him would cause a lot of problems for those who do believe as their parents, sisters, brothers etc would hate them, persecute them, etc. The sword there meant dissection or separation as family or friends who reject Jesus would not want to have anything to do with those who accepted him and we see that a lot in the world today.

Like I said I'm not here to argue I'm going to post all the contradictions I know in the Bible and I'll leave you to deceive yourselves about it

LordVoldermort:
Christians!!! Christians!! Christians!!! I won't argue with you your Bible will argue with you


"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."
Matthew:10:34

ok. Good, corroborate it by sending a passage where the statement came into reality according to ur understanding of it. Am waiting

salvation101:
ok. Good, corroborate it by sending a passage where the statement came into reality according to ur understanding of it. Am waiting

Look at Christianity what proof do you need Catholics, Pentecostals Anglicans Jehovah's Witness Baptists etc every single one of them think theirs is the one true church according to the Bible which breeds round 2 KJV NIV Good news Esv etc what more proof do you need Jesus brought the sword not peace, Yahweh is the Author of Confusion

adepeter2027:

The Jesus whatsoever blood DNA link.

The documentary is right there on National Geographic TV website...so therefore, how is it a fake link?

If you cannot play it due to technical issues...then its a different thing altogether...

I watched it last month...but could not do so this week...and I thought it was my network or something...

Unless you are implying it is my fault that the documentary cannot play on National Geographic TV website...

OkCornel:


The documentary is right there on National Geographic TV website...so therefore, how is it a fake link?

If you cannot play it due to technical issues...then its a different thing altogether...

I watched it last month...but could not do so this week...and I thought it was my network or something...

I played the video Mr.
At a junction, I stopped watching it cos I realised it same as watching a video where someone is trying to proof a TALKING DONKEY, PHAGOCYTIC SNAKE (36millionaire snake) and co

adepeter2027:

I played the video Mr.
At a junction, I stopped watching it cos I realised it same as watching a video where someone is trying to proof a TALKING DONKEY, PHAGOCYTIC SNAKE (36millionaire snake) and co

Deal with the issues one by one...

However, since you are not patient enough to see what an explorer with a skeptical and probing mind in that documentary nor the DNA test results of the Scientist who was interrogated...then there's no point in discussing with you further since your mind is made up...

LordVoldermort:
Like I said I'm not here to argue I'm going to post all the contradictions I know in the Bible and I'll leave you to deceive yourselves about it

You cannot claim they are contradictions because you are simply showing your inability to think by posting what aren't contradictions and claiming they are.

LordVoldermort:
Look at Christianity what proof do you need Catholics, Pentecostals Anglicans Jehovah's Witness Baptists etc every single one of them think theirs is the one true church according to the Bible which breeds round 2 KJV NIV Good news Esv etc what more proof do you need Jesus brought the sword not peace, Yahweh is the Author of Confusion

i asked you to show me the proof at least from scripture. If anyone would practice true Christianity, at least the direct disciples who learned under Jesus would. So please show me in scripture where the disciples who understood wat Jesus taught practiced what u r saying

At least looking at Islam, it is on record how Mohammed servants committed atrocities and genocides

Sarassin:


I agree, the facts stand out. Jesus quoted "in the days of Abiathar the High Priest ..." a clear and simple statement. That statement read on its own does not give the inference that it is a referral to Ahimelech the father. No one who is unaware of the related scripture in the Book of Samuel can draw such a conclusion. Look at the contortions even you have had to go through to arrive at your position. It is a clear error.

it is obvious u av very little in ur arsenal dats y u r majoring on just few words and refusing other lines of thoughts..if i should say "in the days of David the King, he wrote psalms while he tended to his father sheeps" would you say i was wrong because i called him a king instead of mentioning Saul?

salvation101:
God never makes mistakes. Infact he is the God of justice. If u were in his shoes u would kill a person u know will hurt u in the future even before he does. Dat is not justice. Every man is judged according to what he has done not according to wat he would do that he is not yet guilty of.

The knowledge of man has also been progressive. Understanding of God has also been progressive

is punishing the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the fourth generation justice to you?

is kill all first borns sons in Egypt justice?

is ordering the killing of amalekites men, women and children because of the sins of their father justice?

Yahweh made mistakes that is why he was sorry he created man, he allowed the great flood to happen in order to start afresh with righteous Noah's family.

from the stories in the bible it is clear Yahweh is full of injustice.

why send Jesus that didn't commit any sin to die.

if he is omnipotent does he need to drink blood in order to forgive sin? why is he so blood thirsty?

PastorAIO:
Since this thread is about Self Contradictions....

"Bo si gbangban"
loosely means
"Come out into the open"

Please articulate what was on your mind and anything else that prompted you to parade my quotes and have me mentioned

OkCornel:


My bad, it was King Hezekiah...not Jehoshaphat...

sorry the mistake is from me. it was joshua that commanded the sun to stand still.

but my point still stands that part of the story didn't happen. it is pure lies

salvation101:
it is obvious u av very little in ur arsenal dats y u r majoring on just few words and refusing other lines of thoughts..if i should say "in the days of David the King, he wrote psalms while he tended to his father sheeps" would you say i was wrong because i called him a king instead of mentioning Saul?

Clearly your rifle is missing a few bullets. Take a deep breath, read what you wrote up there again and relate it to the text under discussion. If you still do not get it, ask some of the brethren on here, they may help you out. Father sheeps indeed!

Humanistme:
sorry the mistake is from me.
it was joshua that commanded the sun to stand still.

but my point still stands that part of the story didn't happen.
it is pure lies

And why according to you didn't that part of the story happen?
What may I ask, are the pure lies?

Humanistme:


is punishing the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the fourth generation justice to you?

is kill all first borns sons in Egypt justice?

is ordering the killing of amalekites men, women and children because of the sins of their father justice?

Yahweh made mistakes that is why he was sorry he created man, he allowed the great flood to happen in order to start afresh with righteous Noah's family.

from the stories in the bible it is clear Yahweh is full of injustice.

why send Jesus that didn't commit any sin to die.

if he is omnipotent does he need to drink blood in order to forgive sin? why is he so blood thirsty?

That is where u missed it. God is justified for all his actions for and in support of the nation of Israel for in Israel he planned the salvation of the whole of Humanity. Immediately man fell in the garden, the plan for the salvation of humanity was put in place. The seed of the Woman would bruise the head of the serpent... God preserved that seed the generations of fallen man till he committed it to a nation. His priority was to make sure that was achieved, from Noah down to Abraham down to Israel (Jacob), God's priority has been the seed. At a time, Egypt wanted to exterminate the nation from earth by killing all the new male borns at birth, God is justified for all he did to get Israel out from there. He took them through the wilderness and to a land inhabited by idol worshippers. If God didn't give those rules, Israel would have probably been wiped off the face of the earth and the seed killed. Why do u think the jews gave so much credence to genealogies? Because the entire story of the nation of Israel is the story of the Seed of the woman. God gave very strict laws initially, man never had the capacity to keep them.

You asked why Jesus had to die? If he hadn't died, mankind would be lost forever. U only remember the death, u don't remember the resurrection and glorification. He became the Son of man that sons of mean may become Sons of God. Man was restored to a position higher than where Adam fell from.

U said God drinks blood, that is blasphemy. He said he has no need of blood of Rams and cattles, he created them. Do u know the mystery of blood? Life is in the blood. Blood of Abel cried out to God. D bible said "without shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin"

Sarassin:


Clearly your rifle is missing a few bullets. Take a deep breath, read what you wrote up there again and relate it to the text under discussion. If you still do not get it, ask some of the brethren on here, they may help you out. Father sheeps indeed!

drop d sarcasm and answer the simple question

salvation101:
drop d sarcasm and answer the simple question

Perhaps you should not have started off by addressing me sarcastically. Kindly move along. Thank you.

Sarassin:


Perhaps you should not have started off by addressing me sarcastically. Kindly move along. Thank you.

obviously the question opened ur eyes and ur ego wouldn't let you admit ur error

salvation101:
obviously the question opened ur eyes and ur ego wouldn't let you admit ur error

What error? Gawd give me strength! Your question is unbearably daft in relation to the text under discussion and you cannot see it, yet here you are wittering on about ego. As I said, read it over again....the clue is the context, not semantics.

Sarassin:


What error? Gawd give me strength! Your question is unbearably daft in relation to the text under discussion and you cannot see it, yet here you are wittering on about ego. As I said, read it over again....the clue is the context, not semantics.

Why not do us the honours of spelling out this clue you claim

Sarassin:


What error? Gawd give me strength! Your question is unbearably daft in relation to the text under discussion and you cannot see it, yet here you are wittering on about ego. As I said, read it over again....the clue is the context, not semantics.

so in other words, you don't av an answer

Sarassin:


What error? Gawd give me strength! Your question is unbearably daft in relation to the text under discussion and you cannot see it, yet here you are wittering on about ego. As I said, read it over again....the clue is the context, not semantics.

salvation101:
so in other words, you don't av an answer

THE BATTLE OF THE FRAMES!!! lol

butterflyl1on:


Why not do us the honours of spelling out this clue you claim

I would think that the narrative context of the statement that Jesus made in the original verse I referred to in Mark is quite clear. If I had not referred you all to the Book of Samuel then responders would not be making these false comparisons and drawing fraudulent parallels.

PastorAIO:
THE BATTLE OF THE FRAMES!!! lol

Who is going to blink first. Hahaha
PS: Sarassin apparently did, just as I was posting this

salvation101:
so in other words, you don't av an answer

Correct, I do not answer silly questions, anything else?

Sarassin this is 1st Timothy 3 from verse 14 - 16

14 These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly:

15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory


Who was Paul talking about? Was it not Jesus who was made manifest in the flesh? Was he not seen of angels? Did he not preach to the gentiles? Did the world not believe in him? Was he not received up in glory?

Jesus himself said he is God. See below

1)He claimed that He and His Father are one (John 10:30)

2) He is equal with the Father (John 5:17-18).
Not only did He claim to be God, but He also claimed to have the power of God.

3) He said He has the authority to judge the nations (Matthew 25:31-46).

4) He claims the authority to raise people from the dead (John 5:25-29)

5) He says he has the power to forgive sins (Mark 2:5-7)—things only God can do (I Samuel 2:6; Isaiah 43:25).

6) Further, Jesus says He has the power to answer prayers (John 14:13-14), and that He will be with His followers always (Matthew 28:20).

The New Testament equates Jesus to the creator of the universe (John 1:3), and in John 16:15, He says, “All that belongs to the Father is mine.”

It doesn't stop there. Jesus says, for example, that He is “the first and the last” (Revelation 1:17, 22:13), which God the Father says in Isaiah 44:6.

So what exactly are we missing that you can see with your "3rd eye"?

Sarassin:


I would think that the narrative context of the statement that Jesus made in the original verse I referred to in Mark is quite clear. If I had not referred you all to the Book of Samuel then responders would not be making these false comparisons and drawing fraudulent parallels.

Oh so you went back to that issue I already spelt out to you but you simply refused to use your noggin right?

Anyway I went ahead and clarified another obvious non noggin using post you made earlier today. Done and done.

Humanistme:
more contradictions



MT 2:13-16 Following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary flee to Egypt, (where they stay until after Herod's death) in order to avoid the murder of their firstborn by Herod. Herod slaughters all male infants two years old and under.



LK 2:22-40 Following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary remain in the area of Jerusalem for the Presentation (about forty days) and then return to Nazareth without ever going to Egypt. There is no slaughter of the infants.

this is what happens when you do not read the Bible with understanding.. How Long did it take King Herod to realize he has been tricked? U are trying to understand that time with your understanding of our time when transportation and communication has greatly improved. Did you try to ask yourself why King Herod commanded killing of Children from age 2 below? And not 3weeks below? Or 1 week below?

Sarassin:


Correct, I do not answer silly questions, anything else?

not at all.. Enjoy

Sarassin:


Correct, I do not answer silly questions, anything else?

More like you have absolutely zilch to support your error with.

Remember that several other posters gave solid examples using the same language and even asked you questions when done and you never responded to them because you knew your goose was cooked

All you had was context and it was the same context we used to set you straight and you still can't get it.

butterflyl1on:
Sarassin this is 1st Timothy 3 from verse 14 - 16

14 These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly:

15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory


Who was Paul talking about? Was it not Jesus who was made manifest in the flesh? Was he not seen of angels? Did he not preach to the gentiles? Did the world not believe in him? Was he not received up in glory?

Jesus himself said he is God. See below

1)He claimed that He and His Father are one (John 10:30)

2) He is equal with the Father (John 5:17-18).
Not only did He claim to be God, but He also claimed to have the power of God.

3) He said He has the authority to judge the nations (Matthew 25:31-46).

4) He claims the authority to raise people from the dead (John 5:25-29)

5) He says he has the power to forgive sins (Mark 2:5-7)—things only God can do (I Samuel 2:6; Isaiah 43:25).

6) Further, Jesus says He has the power to answer prayers (John 14:13-14), and that He will be with His followers always (Matthew 28:20).

The New Testament equates Jesus to the creator of the universe (John 1:3), and in John 16:15, He says, “All that belongs to the Father is mine.”

It doesn't stop there. Jesus says, for example, that He is “the first and the last” (Revelation 1:17, 22:13), which God the Father says in Isaiah 44:6.

So what exactly are we missing that you can see with your "3rd eye"?

Obviously that post is above your pay-grade.....Next...any other takers?

Sarassin:


Obviously that post is above your pay-grade.....Next...any other takers?

Yes and my pay grade is obviously above yours. You really have nothing to say do you? I on the other hand used scripture to balance scripture and what do you have? Just one cherry-picked verse you claim was miscopied. Well the so called "insertion" of God you claimed has been shown to you as apt. After all who was the scripture referring to if not God?

Was it referring to Paul or to you sarassin.